Re: the rotor on an iPhone

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Carlson
Lori,

The rotor is context-sensitive. So if you are not on a web page or not in a 
place where a link can occur, it will not show links. On the Home Screen you 
will not see links, headings, form fields, etc.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com




On Jul 5, 2023, at 7:24 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I have noticed that often the thing I need in the rotor isn’t available for the 
specific thing I’m trying to do. for example, if I’m looking for links they 
often don’t come up no matter how many times ai go around. in another situation 
I’ll be looking for a form control or a button and it’s not there or at least 
doesn’t appear to be. this isn’t universally true for me but it happens so 
often that I thought I’d ask about it and see what suggestions I can get.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Glad it was all helpful, Mark.  Enjoy!
Donna

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> What a wonderful Tip, Donna.
> 
> I will definitely use this feature.  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
> 
> And just one more thing.
> 
> Once you find a workout you like, you can add it to your library, and even 
> download it to your device.  After you’ve added it to your library, all you 
> have to do to access it is scroll to the bottom of the opening screen.  
> There’ll be a heading that says Your Library, and all your workouts will show 
> up there, so you can just go straight to the one you want.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 
>> 
>> The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played 
>> after the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do 
>> the workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, 
>> you do not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
>> descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up 
>> as the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Some 
>>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Here’s what I do.
>>> 
>>> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
>>> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
>>> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed 
>>> below that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve 
>>> selected a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see 
>>> lots of information, including the music selections included in that 
>>> workout.  For me the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of 
>>> their music choices.  When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do 
>>> whatever setup you need. For example, at that point, I get on my rower, 
>>> strap my feet in, and set the tension where I want it.  Once you’re done 
>>> doing that, Press Play.  The Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen 
>>> another playback destination, it will play on your hand-held device, but 
>>> your watch will track along as well, keeping track of time, calories, heart 
>>> rate, and all the usual stuff.  When the workout is over, just tap done.  I 
>>> recommend that you try a few different trainers to find the one who’s style 
>>> you like best.
>>> 
>>> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
>>> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
>>> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
>>> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
>>> improvements from Apple.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna 
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Janet,
 
 I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
 start.  
 
 For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
 description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works? 
  
 
 I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
 let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't 
 know.
 
 Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked 
 who is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed 
 the watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
 
 Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
 could describe how you use the app?
 
 Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
 Behalf Of Janet Ingber
 Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from 
 Mark
 
 Hi Mark,
 I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
 well with the Apple Watch. 
 Best,
 Janet
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
 questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
 
 Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
 
 1.
 So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
 because I do not need all of the 

Re: the rotor on an iPhone

2023-07-05 Thread Herbie Allen
Make sure ie in focus. Like if on Safari, make sure the Web page is showing on 
your screen.

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 21:24, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed that often the thing I need in the rotor isn’t available for 
> the specific thing I’m trying to do. for example, if I’m looking for links 
> they often don’t come up no matter how many times ai go around. in another 
> situation I’ll be looking for a form control or a button and it’s not there 
> or at least doesn’t appear to be. this isn’t universally true for me but it 
> happens so often that I thought I’d ask about it and see what suggestions I 
> can get.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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the rotor on an iPhone

2023-07-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I have noticed that often the thing I need in the rotor isn’t available for the 
specific thing I’m trying to do. for example, if I’m looking for links they 
often don’t come up no matter how many times ai go around. in another situation 
I’ll be looking for a form control or a button and it’s not there or at least 
doesn’t appear to be. this isn’t universally true for me but it happens so 
often that I thought I’d ask about it and see what suggestions I can get.

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread M. Taylor
What a wonderful Tip, Donna.

I will definitely use this feature.  

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

And just one more thing.

Once you find a workout you like, you can add it to your library, and even 
download it to your device.  After you’ve added it to your library, all you 
have to do to access it is scroll to the bottom of the opening screen.  
There’ll be a heading that says Your Library, and all your workouts will show 
up there, so you can just go straight to the one you want.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 
> 
> The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played after 
> the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do the 
> workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, you do 
> not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
> descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up as 
> the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.
> 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> 
> 
> Some 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Here’s what I do.
>> 
>> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
>> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
>> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
>> that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected 
>> a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
>> information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For 
>> me the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music 
>> choices.  When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup 
>> you need. For example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, 
>> and set the tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press 
>> Play.  The Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback 
>> destination, it will play on your hand-held device, but your watch will 
>> track along as well, keeping track of time, calories, heart rate, and all 
>> the usual stuff.  When the workout is over, just tap done.  I recommend that 
>> you try a few different trainers to find the one who’s style you like best.
>> 
>> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
>> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
>> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
>> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
>> improvements from Apple.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janet,
>>> 
>>> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
>>> start.  
>>> 
>>> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
>>> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
>>> 
>>> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
>>> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't 
>>> know.
>>> 
>>> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
>>> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
>>> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
>>> 
>>> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
>>> could describe how you use the app?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
>>> well with the Apple Watch. 
>>> Best,
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>>> 
>>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
>>> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
>>> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being 
>>> able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, 
>>> very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place 

RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread M. Taylor
Great advice, Janet, thank you.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Janet Ingber
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 6:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

Hi Mark,
Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 

The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played after 
the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do the 
workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, you do 
not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up as 
the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.

Best,
Janet



Some 
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Here’s what I do.
> 
> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
> that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected 
> a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
> information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For me 
> the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music choices.  
> When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup you need. 
> For example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, and set the 
> tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press Play.  The 
> Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback destination, it 
> will play on your hand-held device, but your watch will track along as well, 
> keeping track of time, calories, heart rate, and all the usual stuff.  When 
> the workout is over, just tap done.  I recommend that you try a few different 
> trainers to find the one who’s style you like best.
> 
> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
> improvements from Apple.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janet,
>> 
>> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
>> start.  
>> 
>> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
>> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
>> 
>> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
>> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't know.
>> 
>> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
>> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
>> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
>> 
>> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
>> could describe how you use the app?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
>> well with the Apple Watch. 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
>> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
>> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being 
>> able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, 
>> very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus 
>> such that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
>> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I 
>> must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, 
>> at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card, 
>> for just that reason.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
>> apparently, 

RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Violet,

So glad you got the 14.  It is the best phone I've ever used.

Have a great rest of the week.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Violet Gill
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 6:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

 Hey everyone!! :) so your girl went and got the iPhone 14 Promax 256 GB.  a 
few weeks back,  and it’s working great!!! Also, this July will be one year 
since I got my M1 Mac Mini. I’m really loving it so much. In other news, I’m 
also gonna get the AirPods third generation for my birthday so that will be 
awesome. I’m looking forward to them. So, thats all my apple updates.
Have an awesome and positive day. :) 

 Violet. 
She/her.

> On Jul 4, 2023, at 23:30, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Yolanda,
> 
> Wow!  Thank you for letting us know about that.  So very interesting.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Yolanda Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates 
> from Mark
> 
> I love Apple News. Please be aware, however, that on the weekends when you 
> hit the audio section, swiping through breaks. The only way I have found 
> around it is to touch at the right hand bottom of the screen and flick left. 
> It is annoying.
> 
>> On 7/4/23, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> How accessible is subscription version of Apple News?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 6:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple 
>> of questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant 
>> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan 
>> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to 
>> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, 
>> in Apple Music, is very, very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it 
>> possible to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is 
>> automatically read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to 
>> get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  
>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the 
>> non-default card, at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been 
>> reluctant to add a second card, for just that reason.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of 
>> these, apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward 
>> to watching Highjacked and Silo.
>> 
>> 5.
>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in 
>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two 
>> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running 
>> Windows 7  The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot 
>> imagine using them as a primary means of navigating my life.
>> 
>> 7.
>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread 
>> that asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and 
>> range extenders.  In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my 
>> home, just last week.  I was delighted to discover that when you 
>> connect to these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the 
>> device's built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting you 
>> for the required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In fact, now that I 
>> think about it, these new devices can tell you when they are in the 
>> best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same 
>> network.  How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only 
>> scratched the surface on all that is to come.
>> 
>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply 
>> to this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna.

This is perfect.  Thank you so much.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 5:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

Hi Mark,

Here’s what I do.

First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected a 
workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For me 
the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music choices.  
When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup you need. For 
example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, and set the 
tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press Play.  The Workout 
will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback destination, it will play on 
your hand-held device, but your watch will track along as well, keeping track 
of time, calories, heart rate, and all the usual stuff.  When the workout is 
over, just tap done.  I recommend that you try a few different trainers to find 
the one who’s style you like best.

The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart your 
workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
improvements from Apple.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Donna 

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janet,
> 
> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
> start.  
> 
> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
> 
> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't know.
> 
> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
> 
> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
> could describe how you use the app?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
> 
> Hi Mark,
> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
> well with the Apple Watch. 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
> 
> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
> 
> 1.
> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being able 
> to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, very 
> nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus such that 
> as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
> 
> 2.
> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
> 
> 3.
> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I 
> must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, at 
> time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card, for 
> just that reason.
> 
> 4.
> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
> apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to watching 
> Highjacked and Silo.
> 
> 5.
> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in terms of 
> technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two remaining 
> hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running Windows 7  The Windows 
> 7 PC is not connected to the internet.
> 
> 6.
> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine using 
> them as a primary means of navigating my life.
> 
> 7.
> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that asked 
> about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range extenders.  In 
> fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, just 

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Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
And just one more thing.

Once you find a workout you like, you can add it to your library, and even 
download it to your device.  After you’ve added it to your library, all you 
have to do to access it is scroll to the bottom of the opening screen.  
There’ll be a heading that says Your Library, and all your workouts will show 
up there, so you can just go straight to the one you want.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 
> 
> The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played after 
> the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do the 
> workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, you do 
> not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
> descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up as 
> the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.
> 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> 
> 
> Some 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Here’s what I do.
>> 
>> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
>> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
>> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
>> that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected 
>> a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
>> information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For 
>> me the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music 
>> choices.  When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup 
>> you need. For example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, 
>> and set the tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press 
>> Play.  The Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback 
>> destination, it will play on your hand-held device, but your watch will 
>> track along as well, keeping track of time, calories, heart rate, and all 
>> the usual stuff.  When the workout is over, just tap done.  I recommend that 
>> you try a few different trainers to find the one who’s style you like best.
>> 
>> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
>> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
>> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
>> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
>> improvements from Apple.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Janet,
>>> 
>>> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
>>> start.  
>>> 
>>> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
>>> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
>>> 
>>> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
>>> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't 
>>> know.
>>> 
>>> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
>>> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
>>> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
>>> 
>>> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
>>> could describe how you use the app?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
>>> well with the Apple Watch. 
>>> Best,
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>>> 
>>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
>>> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
>>> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being 
>>> able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, 
>>> very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus 
>>> such that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
>>> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a 

Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread Janet Ingber
Hi Mark,
Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 

The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played after 
the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do the 
workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, you do 
not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up as 
the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.

Best,
Janet



Some 
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Here’s what I do.
> 
> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
> that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected 
> a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
> information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For me 
> the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music choices.  
> When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup you need. 
> For example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, and set the 
> tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press Play.  The 
> Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback destination, it 
> will play on your hand-held device, but your watch will track along as well, 
> keeping track of time, calories, heart rate, and all the usual stuff.  When 
> the workout is over, just tap done.  I recommend that you try a few different 
> trainers to find the one who’s style you like best.
> 
> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
> improvements from Apple.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janet,
>> 
>> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
>> start.  
>> 
>> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
>> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
>> 
>> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
>> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't know.
>> 
>> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
>> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
>> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
>> 
>> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
>> could describe how you use the app?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
>> well with the Apple Watch. 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
>> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
>> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being 
>> able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, 
>> very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus 
>> such that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
>> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I 
>> must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, 
>> at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card, 
>> for just that reason.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
>> apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to watching 
>> Highjacked and Silo.
>> 
>> 5.
>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in terms of 
>> technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two remaining 
>> hardworking and beloved PCs; one 

Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread Violet Gill
 Hey everyone!! :) so your girl went and got the iPhone 14 Promax 256 GB.  a 
few weeks back,  and it’s working great!!! Also, this July will be one year 
since I got my M1 Mac Mini. I’m really loving it so much. In other news, I’m 
also gonna get the AirPods third generation for my birthday so that will be 
awesome. I’m looking forward to them. So, thats all my apple updates.
Have an awesome and positive day. :) 

 Violet. 
She/her.

> On Jul 4, 2023, at 23:30, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Yolanda,
> 
> Wow!  Thank you for letting us know about that.  So very interesting.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Yolanda Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 7:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
> 
> I love Apple News. Please be aware, however, that on the weekends when you 
> hit the audio section, swiping through breaks. The only way I have found 
> around it is to touch at the right hand bottom of the screen and flick left. 
> It is annoying.
> 
>> On 7/4/23, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> How accessible is subscription version of Apple News?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 6:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant 
>> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan 
>> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to 
>> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in 
>> Apple Music, is very, very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible 
>> to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is automatically 
>> read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to 
>> get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  
>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default 
>> card, at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a 
>> second card, for just that reason.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
>> apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to 
>> watching Highjacked and Silo.
>> 
>> 5.
>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in 
>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two 
>> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running 
>> Windows 7  The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine 
>> using them as a primary means of navigating my life.
>> 
>> 7.
>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that 
>> asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range 
>> extenders.  In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, 
>> just last week.  I was delighted to discover that when you connect to 
>> these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the device's 
>> built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting you for the 
>> required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In fact, now that I think 
>> about it, these new devices can tell you when they are in the best 
>> location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same network.  How 
>> wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only scratched the 
>> surface on all that is to come.
>> 
>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply to 
>> this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

2023-07-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mark,

Here’s what I do.

First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected a 
workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For me 
the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music choices.  
When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup you need. For 
example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, and set the 
tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press Play.  The Workout 
will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback destination, it will play on 
your hand-held device, but your watch will track along as well, keeping track 
of time, calories, heart rate, and all the usual stuff.  When the workout is 
over, just tap done.  I recommend that you try a few different trainers to find 
the one who’s style you like best.

The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart your 
workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
improvements from Apple.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Donna 

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Janet,
> 
> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
> start.  
> 
> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
> 
> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't know.
> 
> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
> 
> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
> could describe how you use the app?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
> 
> Hi Mark,
> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
> well with the Apple Watch. 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
> 
> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
> 
> 1.
> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being able 
> to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, very 
> nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus such that 
> as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
> 
> 2.
> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
> 
> 3.
> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I 
> must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, at 
> time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card, for 
> just that reason.
> 
> 4.
> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
> apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to watching 
> Highjacked and Silo.
> 
> 5.
> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in terms of 
> technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two remaining 
> hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running Windows 7  The Windows 
> 7 PC is not connected to the internet.
> 
> 6.
> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine using 
> them as a primary means of navigating my life.
> 
> 7.
> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that asked 
> about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range extenders.  In 
> fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, just last week.  I was 
> delighted to discover that when you connect to these devices, for the first 
> time, on an iOS device, the device's built-in web interface automatically 
> launches, prompting you for the required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In 
> fact, now that I think