Re: Convert PDF to txt on iPhone or iPad?

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Hi,

Its been years since I used this, but Try

https://www.robobraille.org

or email file to

conv...@robobraille.org



On 5/14/2024 12:40 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

While I’m in Italy, I’ll be taking language classes.  I may have a need to 
convert pdfs to text, and I’m hoping to do it on either my phone or my iPad.  
Anyone have a recommendation for an app that will do this?  I know ABBYY will, 
but it seems kind of like overkill.
Cheers,
Donna



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Re: Adding Insert Key

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OK,

Can you share your notes?

For now, I'm using a full size windows keyboard.

Thanks,

Rob


On 5/7/2024 11:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Found some old notes and got that done using Insert.

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On 5/7/2024 6:51 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:

What about using the caps lock key as the NVDA Key?


On 5/7/2024 9:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello,
   In VMware Fusion 12.x for the Mac, I need to add a command that 
uses the insert key for NVDA. I cannot remember how to add that 
insert. Thanks for the help.


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Re: Adding Insert Key

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What about using the caps lock key as the NVDA Key?


On 5/7/2024 9:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello,
   In VMware Fusion 12.x for the Mac, I need to add a command that 
uses the insert key for NVDA. I cannot remember how to add that 
insert. Thanks for the help.


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Re: Another Tough One

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If it is not showing in startup disks,

shut down

when restarting, hold the option key for about 20 seconds,

then press the right arrow then enter.

HTH


On 4/12/2024 9:07 PM, ancient.aliens via MacVisionaries wrote:

LlerThis should not be too hard? Let’s see. I need to reinstall Ventura. I 
have the USB installer plugged. What is the next steps I need to take? Thanks 
very much.

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Re: Using External SSD Drives

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Hi,

Is it formatted NTFS or Fat?

And have VoiceOver on when you plug in the drive with Virtual Machine 
running.


You should get a notification asking to mount the drive on Mac or 
virtual machine. there should be a checkbox to always do this.


If the notification does not show, go to the file menu & to removable 
devices to mount the drive.



Rob


On 3/26/2024 5:06 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,
   Running Windows 7 with VMware Player on the Mac.

   Is there something I need to do to make an SSD drive usable in 
Windows? Thanks.


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Re: Anyone know how I can convert a Quicktime video to MP4

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Hi,
I used a free app called Adapter.
https://macroplant.com/downloads 

Rob


> On Apr 18, 2023, at 6:37 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Question says it all.  Does anyone know of a hopefully not too expensive way 
> to do this?  Or can anyone recommend alternative video recording software 
> that is accessible?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Strange Mac Clean-up question, moving documents folder from iCloud to my Mac

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Hi,
Why not just not include Documents and desktop on that Mac for iCloud?
That way shift command O will open Documents in your home folder.


> On Feb 13, 2023, at 2:46 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> When I got my current Mac back in 2020, as some of you may recall, I had 
> problems migrating files from my old Mac.  So I decided to transfer my 
> documents by copying the folder to iCloud, and hoped that I could then 
> download it onto the new Mac.  The download never happened.  I’m trying to do 
> some cleanup, and one thing I would like to do is to get that folder out of 
> iCloud and have it live locally on my Mac.  I have a bunch of old stuff in 
> there that I want to keep, but that I don’t want to use up iCloud storage to 
> store.  Just to be clear, I have a documents folder in iCloud, but I do not 
> have one in my user folder.  I tried creating one, and was told I couldn’t 
> because that name was in use.  So I copied it from iCloud into my users 
> folder.  That worked, but the folder is called documents - Donna’s MacBook 
> Air, and I’d like it to be named Documents, and for that to be the folder 
> that opens when I press CMD-Option-O.  I’d also like to delete it from iCloud 
> Drive.  Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this?
> TIA,,
> Donna
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Re: Installing windows on a Mac.

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Hi,
You can install windows 10 using Boot Camp.
You do not need to purchase a windows license.
It will install without it, allowing you 
To add it later.
And if you only need windows for a short time, It should be OK. And if you can, 
just use NVDA, or a 40 minute demo of Jaws.

> On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> This is a 2017 MacBook I would be attempting this on, and I unfortunately 
> can’t afford anything additional at this point, sense my last few paychecks 
> have been extremely slim.  So just as I suspected, this may be something I’ll 
> have to run by my supervisor, and we’ll need to find something different for 
> me to do in the meantime.
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> Provided you have an Intel Mac, you can use Bootcamp. Unfortunately, you 
>> will have to purchase Windows and I don’t know the cost. It may not be so 
>> bad though as you will need Windows 10. M1 Mac you will need a completely 
>> different set up and I understand it’s not the most stable. Might be cheaper 
>> just to purchase a tablet which is the same thing unless you need a tun of 
>> processor power.
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 09:43, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn’t think I’d ever see myself doing this, sense getting my first Mac, 
>>> I’d intended to leave the Windows platform behind.  However, someone on our 
>>> team at work has introduced us to training material through DHS, which, as 
>>> helpful as it can be, is strictly windows-based, so in order to use its 
>>> testing tools to complete the courses they offer, that’s the only choice I 
>>> have.  So as a result, I have a couple of questions.
>>> First of all, how much is it going to cost to do this, and second, (if I 
>>> just took the NVDA route) because buying Jaws at this point is the last 
>>> thing I can afford, and something I really don’t want to tie up money in 
>>> just to do 1 thing with.  Also, how would I go about installing it with 
>>> Voiceover/no CD rom drive?
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Re: File Converter for Mac?

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here is the link.

https://www.nch.com.au/components/switchmaci.zip


Try Switch Sound File Converter


from www.nchsoftware.com

Get the one for  free  home use.


Rob


On 8/30/2022 8:40 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I am interested in a file converter for my M1 MacBook Pro. It can be 
free or paid as long as it converts a number of formats including 
M4B, Mp3 etc. And I would like to do it with an app not online.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: File Converter for Mac?

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Try Switch Sound File Converter

from www.nchsoftware.com

Get the one for  free  home use.


Rob


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Hi,
I am interested in a file converter for my M1 MacBook Pro. It can be free or 
paid as long as it converts a number of formats including M4B, Mp3 etc. And I 
would like to do it with an app not online.
Thanks in advance,
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Re: putting music in an iPhone

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Yes,
There is a Mac app called Waltr.
That’s spelled w a l t r 
You can get a free trial from
www.softorino.com 

Thanks,
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> On Aug 16, 2022, at 8:41 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> Is there any way to put music or podcasts into an iPhone without going 
> through iTunes?
> 
> I heard about a little device you can buy to put an sd card in to connect it 
> to an iPhone. if I did this would it work without an app?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Anyone know of an accessible air-fryer?

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Hi,

I suggest going to the store and find one that have knobs and buttons 
instead of touch screens.



On 8/15/2022 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Lol.  Thanks for the heads up.  I’ll try the dot, and if that fails—and I’m not 
as fortunate as David—I’ll go with the tape.
Cheers,
Donna


On Aug 15, 2022, at 7:33 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

Yeah, I tried just the bump dots, but it is very touch sensitive so if
I had to hunt for the dot I would activate everything in between--the
reason for the dritz quilter's tape. But, as I said David does it with
nothing. 


On 8/15/22, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
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Thanks!  I’m glad to know the app is accessible, seems like that would give
you lots more options for controlling it.  I have dots around here
somewhere, so I could just put one of those on the start button.
Cheers,
Donna


On Aug 15, 2022, at 6:51 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:

So, I got a Cassori Smart air-fryer made by vesync. While there is a
touch screen front, the app is totally accessible. Personally, I took
a piece of quilters tape and ran it from the bottom edge of the
display to the start button; however, David Andrews says he just uses
where he knows the start button is and hits it.



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Hi all,

Does anyone know of an air-fryer that is accessible either out of the box
or
via an IOS app?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I use 
CloudClip Manager - Version 1.4.2.45
by Thinkbitz Software Studio.
Free on the App Store.



> On Feb 25, 2022, at 1:57 AM, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager that 
> was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using upto 
> date  Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help.
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Re: PDF pen question

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Hi,
If you export the PDF to RTF and read it, all pages should be there.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
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> I am new to PDF pen. When I open a document, it will show there are six 
> pages, for example. I’m able to read the first couple of pages, then 
> VoiceOver says the remaining pages are blank. When I open the same document 
> in Preview, I’m able to read all pages. I’m hoping someone here can tell me 
> what I’m doing wrong.
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> Thank you,
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Re: Apple Pay

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About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
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> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might the 
> next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if these 
> work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm talking 
> at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>>> up. thanks.
>>> 
 On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
 will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
 phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
 
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Is There Any Way ...

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
What about using Keyboard shortcuts.
For example, type 2ndmouse
And the phrase you wish to enter will be typed for you.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Dec 12, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> Can anyone offer a suggestion to automate creation of signature tags?
> 
> Here’s a bit of background.
> 
> I’ve subscribed to “Quote of the Day” and save the ones I like to text files 
> in a folder I’ve created named “Signatures.”  Each file is named using a 
> phrase in the e-mail/file with the “TXT” extension.
> 
> For example, I have a signature that reads, “The early bird may get the worm, 
> but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
> 
> This quote (with my name affixed at the beginning of the file, is in a file 
> named “Second Mouse.”
> 
> Likewise, the signature (in the signature list) is also named “Second Mouse.”
> 
> Is there any process I could use to process each file, placing the contents 
> of said file in the signature configuration?
> 
> I’m wondering if I could develope a shell script that could open each file, 
> copy the contents therein and place that contents in a signature block using 
> the same name for the signature as the file name (minus the “TXT” extension).
> 
> I certainly know how to process each file, copying the contents and stripping 
> the “.TXT” extension; but I have no idea if the signature configuration uses 
> special files and what those files might be.  Can anyone offer a suggestion 
> or point me to a document that clearly describes the signature structure for 
> MacOS?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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> "He who controls the present controls the past."
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Re: Can't save changes to existing text edit document.

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
This happened to me once. the problem was a small slider switch on the  USB 
drive was slid 
To the protect position.


> On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I just checked, and found it to be doing this on multiple documents.  I’m 
> really confused as to how this could’ve happened, because I have no idea how 
> to make changes to this, so I know for a fact that I haven’t touched any of 
> the settings, and under the sharing and permissions section under the drive 
> itself, I’m finding nothing useful in order to find out what got toggled 
> on/off.
> 
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>> Check to see if this problem is only the one document, or the entire USB 
>> stick.
>> If the entire usb drive is protected, you have unknowingly hit the switch to 
>> enable protection.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>>> I’ve just updated an existing text edit document I’ve had on my USB drive 
>>> for years, and had no problem saving changes to it in the past, and now all 
>>> of a sudden am getting a strange message that I don’t have permission to 
>>> make changes to the file.  I’ve gone into “get info” in finder, and under 
>>> the sharing and permissions section, all it displays is “you can read and 
>>> write” then the rest of the text is cut off and I can’t scroll any further.
>>> Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: Can't save changes to existing text edit document.

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Check to see if this problem is only the one document, or the entire USB stick.
If the entire usb drive is protected, you have unknowingly hit the switch to 
enable protection.


> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I’ve just updated an existing text edit document I’ve had on my USB drive for 
> years, and had no problem saving changes to it in the past, and now all of a 
> sudden am getting a strange message that I don’t have permission to make 
> changes to the file.  I’ve gone into “get info” in finder, and under the 
> sharing and permissions section, all it displays is “you can read and write” 
> then the rest of the text is cut off and I can’t scroll any further.
>  Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: Paypal

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Hi,
It can be done online. You can’t do it using the app.
I did it a few months ago. But don’t remember the exact steps.
Thanks,
Rob

> On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> there's an organization that I pay yearly membership dues to. I use paypal to 
> do it. recently they changed the email address they want us to use. is there 
> a way to delete somebody from your contact list either using the app or on a 
> Mac? if I just added it I don't think I'd be able to tell which email address 
> was being used because I only hear the name of the contact and not their 
> address.
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Looking for free virtual machine

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Hi,
Wich free accessible virtual machine for the Mac would you recommend?

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Re: Watch stop unlocking Mac

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

As I was updating the watch OS, It prompted me to unpair the watch and repair 
it to install the update, After that, It showed up in Security and privacy.
Its working now.
Thanks,
Rob

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Watch stop unlocking Mac

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear List, 
For some strange reason, My series 3 watch has stopped unlocking my Mac running 
Big Sur.
I don’t remember when it started.
There is no setting in security and privacy about the watch.
Bluetooth and wifi is on. I use Air Drop all the time with no problem.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rob


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Re: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air

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The WalMart states that it ships with Mac OS Lion or Mountain Lion, witch means 
it must be from around 2009.
I would not purchase this.


> On Aug 20, 2021, at 6:08 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Are you referring to the Mac at Walmart?
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-11-6-quot-Core-i5-2467M-Dual-Core-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-LED-Notebook/457538391?wmlspartner=wlpa=10746&=227079329219==g=c=191983629258=aud-1219917706781:pla-493523799072=1015236pla=117097862=online=457538391=sem=Cj0KCQjwpf2IBhDkARIsAGVo0D2zGHiV2r7L2Mufjuk1gYyYD23I5LyqkNTPwkZl7zBrTIyUeX1o1xkaAvPKEALw_wcB=aw.ds
>  
> 
> Mountain Lion is a really old operating system, and the site says that there 
> are cracks?
> Not sure.
> If I were you I would see if there are still older Dell Macbooks around.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 6:01 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air
>  
> Hello everyone,
>  
> Sorry, I didn't mean to leave that information out. It states that it is the 
> latest model. Just that it is refurbished. The model number is, MC969LL/A.
>  
> I hope this helps?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Terri
> On 8/20/2021 4:53 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
>> Hi we need to know how old is
>>  
>> It?
>> Sent from Mail  for Windows 
>> 10
>>  
>> From: Terri Stimmel 
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 4:42 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air
>>  
>> Hello everyone,
>>  
>>  
>> My boyfriend found a deal for a refurbished Macbook Air. I am very 
>> interested in purchasing this.
>>  
>>  
>> However, I would like to get some opinions on it, if at all possible. I 
>> don't know much about using a Mac. I have always wanted to use one. I 
>> know in some ways they can have limits though.
>>  
>>  
>> I would mainly like to be able to do a lot of different audio recording. 
>> I currently use an HP laptop for the majority of things. And probably 
>> still will.
>>  
>>  
>> Anyway, this Macbook Air has 4 Gigs of RAM, Intel Core I 5, 1.6 GHZ, 128 
>> GB SSD. It doesn't state what version of the operating system it comes with.
>>  
>> Does this possibly mean it doesn't include one?
>>  
>> Also, how likely is it that this could be updated, if at some point I 
>> wanted to do this?
>>  
>>  
>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>  
>>  
>> Thank you,
>>  
>>  
>> Terri
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Re: Copying CDs onto my Mac without having them added to my Music library

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Donna,

I dont want to confuse you.

If you have already copied the CD to your Mac, Then look in your user 
folder\Music\Media\,


and you should find the MP3's ripped from the CD's.

Now you can just copy them to a new folder, such as iCloud Drive.

And dont use the Music app to play them because they may be added back 
to the Music app.


Thanks,

Rob


On 7/25/2021 8:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I thought there was a way to do that, but when I looked for it yesterday, I 
didn’t see it.  I wonder if they removed it in Big Sur?  You used to be abel to 
access that when you deleted a track.  But when I tried it, my only options 
were Delete or Cancel.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:37 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

You could just move it out of the music library.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 24, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Actually, My wonder was if the information can be  saved as a data file 
somehow?




On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, Herbie Allen wrote:

There probably are external cd copying programs for the Mac. You could put them 
in an iCloud or dropbox folder so you can access them from anywhere.


On Jul 24, 2021, at 12:37, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

I have some yoga CDs that I would like to be able to play on my phone or iPad.  
Is there some way I can copy these onto my Mac, and access them from my 
i-devices without having them included in my Music library?  What I’mm trying 
to avoid is having them start playing when I’m playing music.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Copying CDs onto my Mac without having them added to my Music library

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You could just move it out of the music library.


Sent from my iPhone

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> Actually, My wonder was if the information can be  saved as a data file 
> somehow?
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> 
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2021, Herbie Allen wrote:
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>> There probably are external cd copying programs for the Mac. You could put 
>> them in an iCloud or dropbox folder so you can access them from anywhere.
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 12:37, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have some yoga CDs that I would like to be able to play on my phone or 
>>> iPad.  Is there some way I can copy these onto my Mac, and access them from 
>>> my i-devices without having them included in my Music library?  What I’mm 
>>> trying to avoid is having them start playing when I’m playing music.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: looking fore a perticular program on the mac

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One way is to
Use your right click menu to convert audio files directly from Finder 
So select all the Flac files then use the open with menu.


> On Jul 20, 2021, at 12:50 AM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> how do you tell switch to only convert flac files and leave the rest alone?
> 
> I have mainly flac files but I do have some in mp3 as well
> 
> Hank
> 
> On 7/19/2021 5:52 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Switch from 
>> www.nchsoftware.com <http://www.nchsoftware.com/>
>> Is a good app for Mac and windows.
>> I have used both.
>> Be sure to download the free version.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2021, at 8:35 PM, The wolf >> <mailto:hank.smith...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I am looking fore a program on the mac that can do the following
>>> 
>>> search a folder fore all .flac files
>>> 
>>> convert them to mp3 and then delete the .flac files
>>> 
>>> also need the program to save the mp3s in the same folder as the .flac 
>>> folders were in the same source
>>> 
>>> am trying to free up hard drive space and alot of my music is in .flac 
>>> format
>>> 
>>> is there a program on the mac that can do what I am wanting? if so what is 
>>> it?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Hank
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Re: looking fore a perticular program on the mac

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Switch from 
www.nchsoftware.com 
Is a good app for Mac and windows.
I have used both.
Be sure to download the free version.


> On Jul 19, 2021, at 8:35 PM, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> Hello I am looking fore a program on the mac that can do the following
> 
> search a folder fore all .flac files
> 
> convert them to mp3 and then delete the .flac files
> 
> also need the program to save the mp3s in the same folder as the .flac 
> folders were in the same source
> 
> am trying to free up hard drive space and alot of my music is in .flac format
> 
> is there a program on the mac that can do what I am wanting? if so what is it?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Hank
> 
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Re: Apple Watch Series 3 no longer ding when charging

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Thank you,
I don’t know how it got switched to on.


> On Jul 15, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Go into the Control Panel, and see if Silent Mode, formerly Mute, is enabled.
> If Silent Mode is enable, turn it off by double tapping the button, and the, 
> “ding” sound when charging will return.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
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> On Jul 15, 2021, at 18:27, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Dear List,
> Can someone help me solve this problem of my Apple Watch Series 3 no longer 
> dings when placed on the charger?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
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Apple Watch Series 3 no longer ding when charging

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Dear List,
Can someone help me solve this problem of my Apple Watch Series 3 no longer 
dings when placed on the charger?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Audio Hijack splits my files.

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Hi,
It sounds like auto pause detection, or some of the other settings in that 
section.
Here is a write-up I did on this a while back.
Take a look to see if one of the settings have been turned on.
——
Auto Pause Detection in Audio Hijack
When recording music tracks using Audio Hijack, You don't have to press the 
Record button after every track.
The app can detect pauses in the music and create a separate file for you.
You will have to dig deep to find the settings.
1. Create or select a session.
2. Interact with the audio grid.
3. Press Ctrl+Option+Shift+M on the MP3 recorder block.
Note: Your recording block may be using another format other than MP3.
4. In the menu, arrow down to Pin Popover Open, and press enter.
5. VO+Right to the File Settings section, and interact with it.
6. VO+Right to the File Limits Section, & interact with it.

7. VO+right to the Silence Monitor button & press VO+Space.
8. Now VO+Right to the silence action pop up button, press VO+Space & choose 
start new file.
9. VO+Right to the silence time edit field & change it from 2.0 to 1.5 if you 
need to do so.
10. I did not change the -60 dB Silence Threshold Volume slider.
11. Stop interacting twice, & press escape, then stop interacting once more to 
get out of the audio grid.
Good luck!
Thanks,
Rob 

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I don’t know what’s going on but audio hijack seems to split my recordings 
> into small 5 megabytes files.
> Is there some  setting I can just turn off.
> Its very annoying when recording a long radio show.
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Another free ClipBoard manager

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Dear List,
Here is another free accessible clipboard manager.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cloudclip-manager/id563362017?mt=12 

It works well with Big Sur. I used this app back in 2013, but for some reason, 
I stoped using it. So I decided to give it another try and was very surprised 
at how well it works.
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Initialize Memory card?

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After running first aid, the files showed up again in finder, but she keeps 
getting error, disk not ejected properly every few minutes.
I think the problem is the SD card or the card reader that’s connected to the 
USB-C adapter.
The USB-C adapter was replaced but it didn’t solve the problem.
She’s not able to copy files from the card to the Mac because it keeps 
disconnecting itself.


> On Apr 29, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Rob. You can’t recover once it’s initialized. It’s an empty card.
> 
> Dave Carlson
>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:22 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> I was asked this question, so I thought I would throw it out to the list.
> She inserted a memory card  with files on it. into the MacBook Air, A dialog  
> popped up and she chose Initialize Memory card.
> Now the question is how to recover the data after the card was initialized.
> Thanks in advance,
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Initialize Memory card?

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Hello,
I was asked this question, so I thought I would throw it out to the list.
She inserted a memory card  with files on it. into the MacBook Air, A dialog  
popped up and she chose Initialize Memory card.
Now the question is how to recover the data after the card was initialized.
Thanks in advance,
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Re: Amadeus Pro gliche

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Hi,
Yes, I have this problem also.
Hiting the spacebar about 4 to five times usually fixes it.


> On Apr 27, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Using the latest update, and this may have been happening all along as its 
> been a while since I’ve used the program, When I select some audio and use 
> the spacebar to hear the selection, Amadeus plays from the beginning of the 
> file. But, when I use the E key to preview the selection, it previews only 
> the selected audio. I checked tthe playback settings and its set to play 
> selection with spacebar.
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

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Hi,
I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
Thanks,
Rob


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> Hi all,
> 
> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide 
> whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to sell it, VO 
> issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big 
> Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Trying to install windows on bootCamp

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Do you have a USB sound card to use until the sound drivers are installed?
Also try headphones.


> On Apr 15, 2021, at 1:13 AM, Steve Z.  wrote:
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> Hi list,
> I would like your help with this. I try to install windows 10 on bootcam and 
> it doesn’t seem to work right. So, I go on BootCamp application and with 
> cited guide, because it does not work for Big Sur, I make the partition. I 
> install the windows and up to now everything seems to be OK. When running 
> windows after finishing with the installation, it’s starting loading them and 
> stops asking me to choose operating system. It gives me two options. Windows 
> 10 from disc five, I don’t know where the heck finds this disk 5, and Windows 
> 10. When I choose windows 10, it’ll boots. When I choose windows 10 from disc 
> five, it is loading the windows with the narrator running, but I can not hear 
> anything. Even when I turn off and again on generator, a sound doesn’t come 
> out.
> could anybody explain to me the procedure step-by-step please?
> Thanks in advance
> Steve
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Big Sur bootable SSD, was : FireWire SSD question

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The USB 3 port is working great.
This SSD drive has made a big difference in my Mac.
Everything is much faster!
I used Carbon Copy Cloner to create a bootable Big Sur clone, then I had to 
boot into recovery to choose Big Sur SSD as the  startup drive.
Because as of now, Big Sur will not show the clone in the startup disk 
selection even though it is bootable. Carbon Copy Cloner 
Says that Apple is aware of the problem.
Then once I booted using the new SSD, I was able to select it as the startup 
disk in system preferences.
So far all is well.
Thanks,
Rob

> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:24 AM, dan d.  wrote:
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> Your machine uses thunderbolt 2.  There are thunderbolt3 to thunderbolt2 
> adaptors.  The usb--c and thunderbolt3 ports are the same.  I
> predictt the thunderbolt line of connections will be merged into the usb line 
> of connectivity.
> 
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Dear List,
>> Today I received my first FireWire SSD,
>> 
>> Item: 480GB OWC Envoy Pro FX Thunderbolt 3 + USB-C Portable NVMe SSD. The 
>> fastest, most compatible portable drive ever made that works with 
>> yesterday's, today's and tomorrow's Thunderbolt and USB computers and 
>> devices.; 3 Year OWC Limited Warranty. (OWCTB3ENVPFX.5)
>> I am using a late 2015 iMac.
>> I never held a ThunderBolt 3 cable before. I was trying to purchase a drive 
>> to plug into the thunderbolt connection, but this seems to be a USB C cable 
>> with a standard USB adapter.
>> There are two ports on my Mac but this cable will not fit.
>> I am very confused.
>> Are they calling USB C Thunderbolt?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Rob
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FireWire SSD question

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Dear List,
Today I received my first FireWire SSD,

Item: 480GB OWC Envoy Pro FX Thunderbolt 3 + USB-C Portable NVMe SSD. The 
fastest, most compatible portable drive ever made that works with yesterday's, 
today's and tomorrow's Thunderbolt and USB computers and devices.; 3 Year OWC 
Limited Warranty. (OWCTB3ENVPFX.5)
I am using a late 2015 iMac.
I never held a ThunderBolt 3 cable before. I was trying to purchase a drive to 
plug into the thunderbolt connection, but this seems to be a USB C cable with a 
standard USB adapter.
There are two ports on my Mac but this cable will not fit.
I am very confused.
Are they calling USB C Thunderbolt?
Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Re: VoiceOver randomly reading items on the Doc

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Auto hide the doc was not checked.
I checked it. I hope this fix the problem.
Thanks,


> On Apr 6, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’m thinking this could be due to one of 2 things.
> 
> 1.  Your dock is not set to auto-hide.
> or,
> 2.  Your dock may or may not be set to auto-hide, but your mouse arrow is 
> situated at the bottom of the screen, and is hovering over the dock area.
> 
> Many non-sighted VoiceOver users are not aware that even though they are 
> using VoiceOver, the mouse pointer is still active, and present somewhere on 
> the screen.  Depending on the location of the mouse arrow, this can cause 
> “hover” related issues.
> I suggest that when you hear this random speech, you try dragging your finger 
> on the trackpad, up and to the far left, in order to relocate the mouse 
> pointer to a less problematic location on the screen and see if that helps.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2021, at 10:11, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Dear List,
> I am having a weird problem with VoiceOver on Big Sur.
> While reading on web pages and in email, by pressing the down arrow to read 
> line by line, I will hear
> "Notes, 12 of 20.”
> Then as I continue to press the down arrow, it will read the email for a few 
> lines, then I may hear,
> “Music, 14 of 20.”
> Am I the only one with this problem?
> I promise I’m not cracking up!
> I hear it! Really  I do!!
> I do I do really hear it!
> LOL  ‍羚
> Thanks,
> Rob
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VoiceOver randomly reading items on the Doc

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear List,
I am having a weird problem with VoiceOver on Big Sur.
While reading on web pages and in email, by pressing the down arrow to read 
line by line, I will hear
"Notes, 12 of 20.”
Then as I continue to press the down arrow, it will read the email for a few 
lines, then I may hear,
“Music, 14 of 20.”
Am I the only one with this problem?
I promise I’m not cracking up!
I hear it! Really  I do!!
I do I do really hear it!
LOL  ‍羚
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Audio looping software suggestions

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Amadeus has a checkbox that allows looping.
Grab a 30 day trial and try it out.
And what about using the repeat play function in apps like VLC, if all you want 
is the file to be repeated while you practice.


> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:54 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Yeah I know, and the learning curve for GB is a pain in the rump. I’m hoping 
> for something simpler to work with than GB if it all possible. How about 
> Amadeus pro does that do looping?
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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> 
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:22 PM, kliph miller Sr  
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>> Garage band does this and a whole lot more, and it is free99! And comes 
>> preinstalled on all apple devices
>> 
>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all the 
>> options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files sound 
>> good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here
>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io
>>  Even explore my Tutorials 
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>>  and SoundEffects Folder 
>> 
>>  to receive updated resources
>> Let’s master editing audio together!
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:26 PM, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m looking for an app either iPhone or OS X that will let me mark 
>>> positions on an audio file (X begin, why end) and loop that section. Any 
>>> suggestions? I’m not interested in anything with a high learning curve or a 
>>> big price tag. Simpler the better. my purpose is to record a chord 
>>> progression on guitar once through and then be able to loop it rather than 
>>> having to lay down eight or 10 run-throughs of the progression to be used 
>>> as a practice rhythm backing track. Thanks
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Re: Strange volume on desktop after installing Big Sur

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks,
I will just ignore it.


> On Mar 29, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> Hello robert, 
> yes, in Big Sur the boot partition is a read-only signed image that is merged 
> with the data area. I believe the startup marker is indicating that you can 
> boot from it, not that you have booted from it. if you erase this partition ( 
> well, it is not really a partition) than you will lose Big Sur and probably 
> your recovery partition.  
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:00 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Dear list,
>> I hope some of you can help with this issue.
>> I installed Big Sur on a second APFS Volume on Catalina.
>> The install went well, but while in Catalina, there is a volume on the 
>> desktop called Update.
>> If I boot into Big Sur there is Macintosh HD, and Big Sur volumes as it 
>> should be. I can even open the Mac HD to browse my Catalina files.
>> But if booted into Catalina, there is no Big Sur volume on the desktop, Just 
>> Mac HD and Update volumes.
>> I have searched but did not find a solution for this problem.
>> In disk Utility the volume is called
>> com.apple.os.update-35C699ADD439C653A3B09EBD8A30FBD366881244EB7C82207A2E135362FCCB7F
>> I am scared to touch it because its labeled as 
>> Disk icon, badged as startup volume.
>> Big Sur APFS System Snapshot • APFS
>> I don’t know why its labeled as startup disk, when Catalina is my startup 
>> disk, even though it does not  say so in disk utility.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Strange volume on desktop after installing Big Sur

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear list,
I hope some of you can help with this issue.
I installed Big Sur on a second APFS Volume on Catalina.
The install went well, but while in Catalina, there is a volume on the desktop 
called Update.
If I boot into Big Sur there is Macintosh HD, and Big Sur volumes as it should 
be. I can even open the Mac HD to browse my Catalina files.
But if booted into Catalina, there is no Big Sur volume on the desktop, Just 
Mac HD and Update volumes.
I have searched but did not find a solution for this problem.
In disk Utility the volume is called
com.apple.os.update-35C699ADD439C653A3B09EBD8A30FBD366881244EB7C82207A2E135362FCCB7F
I am scared to touch it because its labeled as 
Disk icon, badged as startup volume.
Big Sur APFS System Snapshot • APFS
I don’t know why its labeled as startup disk, when Catalina is my startup disk, 
even though it does not  say so in disk utility.
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: ClipGrab 3.8.15 not working very good?

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Here you go!
Free Download! ClipGrab 3.9.6 for Mac OS X 
<https://download.clipgrab.org/ClipGrab-3.9.6.dmg>
The website is
www.clipgrab.org <http://www.clipgrab.org/>
Thanks,
Rob

> On Mar 21, 2021, at 11:55 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
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> Hi Robert,
> Thanks,
> You know I looked in the preferences for a way to grab the latest copy but 
> did not see an option while the ap was running to retrieve the latest version.
> Would you happen to have a trusted direct link on the latest version?
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 5:38 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> You are outdated!
>> Go grab version 3.9.6
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi List,
>>> Recently ClipGrab 3.8.15 has stopped working with YouTube.
>>> Are you guys noticing this also?
>>> Is there another alternative to ClipGrab?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
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Re: ClipGrab 3.8.15 not working very good?

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Hi,
You are outdated!
Go grab version 3.9.6
Thanks,
Rob


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> Thanks
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Re: Download Complete Sound on MacBook Pro?

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Hi,
This is not a sound, but you may want to try this.
Instructions from Tim.
download notifications
You can set up a Folder Action for your Downloads folder.
• Go to the Finder.
• Press cmd-shift-h to open your Home folder.
• Select the Downloads folder.
• Press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu.
• Choose Folder Action Setup.
• Interact with the Table and select “Add Item Alert”.
press the Attach Item button 
• Make sure the “Enable Folder Actions” checkbox is checked.
• Close the setup window and you should be done.

Tim Kilburn 
kilbu...@me.com



> On Mar 9, 2021, at 1:14 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> Is there a place in my system preferences or elsewhere where I can turn on a 
> sound so that I know when a download completes? If I start a download in 
> Safari on Open Drive or somewhere VO will often say download started. But I 
> have to guess when it is finished.
> Thanks in advance.
> Merv
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Re: Best OCR solution for the mac with VoiceOver?

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I am using PDF Pen 8 with Catalina.
But when I move to Big Sur I will need to upgrade it, or purchase another app.
Most apps have Trials, so you can check it out to see if its the one for you.
Another app is Prizmo.
I have not tried it in years.
You can also try Fine Reader.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> I use an Epson scanner and have done so for over 15 years. The OCR function 
> is better, the more you pay. Docuscan is the most expensive, but the most 
> full-featured. Around $300 I think. Ouch!
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:29 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  > wrote:
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> Hi Dave,
> Thanks.
> What I'm looking for is something that is very dependable.
> Bullet proof if you may! :)
> So what software and hardware scanner might you suggest?
> I've heard about the Kurzweil reader but thought there must be  something out 
> now that does the same job without the Kurzweil price!.
> ;)Some times you got to pay for that seamless integration!
> Just like my Avid Pro Tools hdx rig, it just works!
> Thanks
> Chuck
> Also the OCR software plays very nice with the scanner which ever scanner 
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
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>> Seems like Docuscan, Abbey Fine Reader, or one other I can’t recall. All are 
>> software versions for the Mac that will work with scanned documents or PDF 
>> files. But not cheap. I miss Openbook with its handy camera.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:41 AM, CHUCK REICHEL > > wrote:
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>> Hi List,
>> What is the best set up for doing ocr these days?
>> Software?
>> Printer scanner?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
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Have you used SetApp?

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear List,
Have any of you used the Mac app called SetApp?
Its a collection of apps for one monthly subscription.
If you have any experience
 Using this app, I would like to know.
Here are a few apps I’m interested in.
Cloud Mounter
Clean my Mac
Downie
Prizmo OCR
PDFPen

Thanks,
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Re: Not seeing all email folders in Big Sur Mail

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I had to reinstall Big Sur to fix it.
Thanks


> On Feb 27, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Sounds to me like you need to take a close look at each mail account in 
> Internet Accounts, making sure each one has the Mail checkbox checked, and 
> all other I’s dotted and T’s crossed.
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>> Hi Brad,
>> 1.  Make sure you have each Mail  account properly setup in System 
>> Preferences > Internet Accounts, with passwords entered and Mail turned on 
>> for each accounts.
> My iCloud account seems to be setup correctly.
> I setup mail in Catalina today also with no problems, its Big Sur giving me 
> trouble.
>> 2.  Make sure you have the MailBox folder list turned on in the Mail app.
> Its on. 
>> 3.  Make sure you have expanded the contents of each Mail account, at 
>> Heading Level 1, in the Mailbox folder list.
>> 
> There are no headings.
> The first item on the mailbox list is all inboxes
> 
>  I’m looking for some receipts folders and a email group folder in iCloud 
> mail but can’t find them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 17:09, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Dear Group,
>> Today I did a clean install of Big Sur.
>> I have searched the menus but can’t find out how to show all my email 
>> folders that I created in iCloud and Gmail.
>> I syncronized
>> All mail accounts but it did not help.
>> I am stuck!
>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Re: Not seeing all email folders in Big Sur Mail

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> Hi Brad,
> 1.  Make sure you have each Mail  account properly setup in System 
> Preferences > Internet Accounts, with passwords entered and Mail turned on 
> for each accounts.
My iCloud account seems to be setup correctly.
I setup mail in Catalina today also with no problems, its Big Sur giving me 
trouble.
> 2.  Make sure you have the MailBox folder list turned on in the Mail app.
Its on. 
> 3.  Make sure you have expanded the contents of each Mail account, at Heading 
> Level 1, in the Mailbox folder list.
> 
There are no headings.
The first item on the mailbox list is all inboxes

 I’m looking for some receipts folders and a email group folder in iCloud mail 
but can’t find them.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2021, at 17:09, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Dear Group,
> Today I did a clean install of Big Sur.
> I have searched the menus but can’t find out how to show all my email folders 
> that I created in iCloud and Gmail.
> I syncronized
> All mail accounts but it did not help.
> I am stuck!
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Not seeing all email folders in Big Sur Mail

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Dear Group,
Today I did a clean install of Big Sur.
I have searched the menus but can’t find out how to show all my email folders 
that I created in iCloud and Gmail.
I syncronized
All mail accounts but it did not help.
I am stuck!
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Looking for Terminal command to create Catalina install disk

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Hello List,
Do any of you have the terminal command to create a bootable installer for 
Catalina?
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Re: Music app PlayList question on Mac solved

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Hi Traci, I found the problem.
Show status bar was not on. Its working now.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi, interact in the side bar of the music app and get to your playlist. Then 
> stop interacting and VO-right-arrow a couple times until you hear something 
> like this: 24 songs, 1 hour, 29 minutes, 110.8 MB button. There is the size 
> of a playlist.
> 
> HTH,
> Traci
> 
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>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 9:35 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Dear List,
>> I want to burn a MP3 CD. My playlist has 100 songs and is over 8 hours, My 
>> question is, is there a way to know how many megabytes this is? My blank CD 
>> is 700MB.
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: Music app PlayList question on Mac

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Hi Traci,
Thanks for your reply,
It tells me the number of songs followed by the length , but not the size in 
megabytes.



> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> stop interacting and VO-right-arrow a couple times until you hear something 
> like this: 24 songs, 1 hour, 29 minutes, 110.8 MB button. There is the size 
> of a playlist.
> 
> HTH,
> Traci
> 
> 
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>> Dear List,
>> I want to burn a MP3 CD. My playlist has 100 songs and is over 8 hours, My 
>> question is, is there a way to know how many megabytes this is? My blank CD 
>> is 700MB.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Music app PlayList question on Mac

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Dear List,
I want to burn a MP3 CD. My playlist has 100 songs and is over 8 hours, My 
question is, is there a way to know how many megabytes this is? My blank CD is 
700MB.

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Re: Terminal copy file command help needed

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Thank you,
I changed the key commander.


> On Feb 10, 2021, at 10:06 AM, dan d.  wrote:
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> 
> 
> When you open terminal you are in your home folder.  Use just 
> ~/documents/"time of Day.applescript" for the copy.  Note, if a file or
> directory name contains spaces enclose it with quotation marks as shown.
> 
> That script is an example used in a key commander that comes with os10, so 
> any new version overides your modified script of the same name.
> You can change the name and make the change in the key commander.  Thus it 
> will not be overridden.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote
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>> Dear List,
>> I need help with this terminal copy file command.
>> I need it to overwrite the existing file in the destination.
>> 
>> cp ~ % /Users/robert/Documents/Time\ Of\ Day.applescript 
>> ~/Library/Scripts/VoiceOver/
>> 
>> Every time Mac OS updates, it replaces this file that I customized.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Terminal copy file command help needed

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Hi,
I was looking for a way to copy the file from documents to 
HD\Library\scripts\VoiceOver\
But maybe terminal is not the way to go, I like your suggestion of using a 
apple script and save it as a app.
I modified the time of day script to speak the time followed by month day & 
year, but after every OS software update, it reverts back to speaking the month 
day followed by the time.
To fix it, I have to  opened the documents folder and copied the modified 
script then goto the script folder and pasted it to overwrite the file that was 
there.
I hope I didn’t confuse you.
I just wanted a quick easy automated way to do this after updating the OS.

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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>> cp ~ % /Users/robert/Documents/Time\ Of\ Day.applescript 
>> ~/Library/Scripts/VoiceOver/

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Terminal copy file command help needed

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Dear List,
I need help with this terminal copy file command.
I need it to overwrite the existing file in the destination.

cp ~ % /Users/robert/Documents/Time\ Of\ Day.applescript 
~/Library/Scripts/VoiceOver/

Every time Mac OS updates, it replaces this file that I customized.

Thank you,
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Re: Clipboard manager for Mac

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I finally got it working.
Do you know if there is a way to clear a single entry without clearing all 
entries?


> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I had to do the following to get it to work: 
> open the Flycut app
> it seems as if nothing happened but in truth an invisible window opened
> press Enter to confirm and open System Preferences to enable AEServer to make 
> Flycut working
> 
> After this it appeared in the extras menu.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 12.01.2021 um 15:52 schrieb 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Like I said in my first message, Its not showing in the menu.
>> I logged out and back in just to get it to quit.
>> Then I was able to delete it. I reinstalled it with the same problem.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:39 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It shows up in  menu extras and can be accessed and configured.  It can be 
>>> quit there also.  Suggest you give it a try, I think you will like it.
>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I got this from the App Store.
>>>> I tried to open it, but nothing seems to happen.
>>>> I can???t delete it  because its running, but it is not in activity 
>>>> monitor, or in the extras menu.
>>>> And its not showing in force quit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:46 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use flycut it is open source and free,  the app. store.  Its easy to 
>>>>> use and configure, I wouldn't do without it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Christina wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
>>>>>> accessible?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Christina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: Clipboard manager for Mac

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Hello,
Like I said in my first message, Its not showing in the menu.
I logged out and back in just to get it to quit.
Then I was able to delete it. I reinstalled it with the same problem.


> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:39 AM, dan d.  wrote:
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> It shows up in  menu extras and can be accessed and configured.  It can be 
> quit there also.  Suggest you give it a try, I think you will like it.
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I got this from the App Store.
>> I tried to open it, but nothing seems to happen.
>> I can???t delete it  because its running, but it is not in activity monitor, 
>> or in the extras menu.
>> And its not showing in force quit.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:46 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I use flycut it is open source and free,  the app. store.  Its easy to use 
>>> and configure, I wouldn't do without it.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Christina wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
>>>> accessible?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Christina
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Clipboard manager for Mac

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Hi,
I got this from the App Store.
I tried to open it, but nothing seems to happen.
I can’t delete it  because its running, but it is not in activity monitor, or 
in the extras menu.
And its not showing in force quit.


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> I use flycut it is open source and free,  the app. store.  Its easy to use 
> and configure, I wouldn't do without it.
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Christina wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are 
>> accessible?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>> 
>> 
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Re: What has happened to the PayPal mobile app?

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Hi,
I have not seen this problem.
Did you try swiping up to see if there was a dismiss or close button?
I have seen this when opening the YouTube app, A try YouTube without adds offer 
will appear, and the only way to close it is to swipe up.


Rob


> On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> They change something in the most recent app update, and now all I get is a 
> splash screen with cryptocurrency offers, donation options, but there is no 
> more send button or request button. I have to now use the desktop website in 
> order to send money. Anyone else having this problem?
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Re: Amadeus Pro insertion point question

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Hi,
Here are some audio demos.
http://blindabilities.com/?s=Amadeus


> On Jan 3, 2021, at 4:53 PM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I am new to using Amadeus Pro and am working my way through Jonathan
> Mosen's tutorial - though it's a few years old, I'm hoping I can still
> learn a lot from it.
> 
> I'm having a problem understanding what's going on with the insertion
> point while the music is not playing.  In the tutorial, it says that
> while the file is not playing, pressing left and right arrows will
> move the insertion point.  Then he demonstrates this by saying "if I
> press the left arrow key we're at the beginning of the file" and we
> hear some audio playing.  But when I press left arrow with the file
> paused, I don't hear audio.  He then goes on to talk about how it just
> so happens the insertion point is where he wants it to make the cut he
> wants.  But I don't understand how he knows where the insertion point
> is.
> 
> So I'm wondering whether, while sound is not playing, pressing the
> left/right arrow keys is supposed to make some sound play.  If not,
> how can we know where the insertion point is?  Perhaps this behaviour
> has changed with later versions of Amadeus.  Or perhaps in the
> tutorial he's doing something else he doesn't describe to make the
> sound at the insertion point play - though this seems very unlikely.
> 
> Please can anyone help me understand what's meant to happen to the
> insertion point when we move it with the file not playing?  And/or how
> can I find out where the insertion point is?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Bible app from the Mac app store

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Dear List,
Someone recently asked about a Bible app for the Mac.
Today I downloaded  unbound bible.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/unbound-bible/id1412836395?mt=12
I briefly checked it out, & it seems to be OK.

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Audio Hijack sale

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Hi,
There are a few ways of recording audio on the Mac, but I have found Audio 
Hijack the easiest.
It was $59, but you can get it for $47 with 
code END2020. 


Some people are now using Zoom to record audio & video on the Mac.
And don’t forget about QuickTime. It can also be used to record system audio 
and video by installing a audio driver extension.

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Re: No sound from voiceover please help

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Hi John,
The solution was not to change the VoiceOver  output sound device.
There is a checkbox I’n Zoom to include system audio.
Zoom automatically changed the system sound output from speakers to the Zoom 
audio, so after my recording, before closing the Zoom app, I changed it back to 
speakers.
I wanted to be on the safe side, It may have changed back on its on, But I 
didn’t want to take any chances of loosing VoiceOver speech again.



> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:42 PM, 'John Sanfilippo' via MacVisionaries 
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> Great! Do you remember the solution?
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/9/20 11:13, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Disregard my previous  message,
>> I got someone to come fix it for me. All is well, & a lesson learned.
>> 
>> I set voiceover output to zoom audio driver.
>> I wanted record vo with zoom.
>> But as soon as I quit zoom, vo died.
>> How can I get back to voiceover output selection without speech? Please help.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Re: No sound from voiceover please help

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Disregard my previous  message,
I got someone to come fix it for me. All is well, & a lesson learned.


> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:44 AM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Dear list,
> I set voiceover output to zoom audio driver.
> I wanted record vo with zoom.
> But as soon as I quit zoom, vo died.
> How can I get back to voiceover output selection without speech? Please help.
> Thanks,
> Rob
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No sound from voiceover please help

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Dear list,
I set voiceover output to zoom audio driver.
I wanted record vo with zoom.
But as soon as I quit zoom, vo died.
How can I get back to voiceover output selection without speech? Please help.
Thanks,
Rob


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Re: Reseting NVRAM on a Mac with a windows installed via bootcamp

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Hi,
I did this last week on my 2015 iMac with Boot camp.
There were no problems.
As the Mac started and the chime sounded, I pressed and held down 
R+P+Command+Option until a second chime sounded.
On Dec 5, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Muhammad Fayed  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I wonder what will happen to a Mac device has windows 10 installed on it 
> using bootcamp if we reset the NVRAM!!! What will happen??
> 
> I have faced an issue, but fortunately, it was solved on its own, so I’m 
> asking for future reference.
> 
> I have MBP 2016 15”.
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> Thank you so much,
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Apple Watch want respond

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Dear List,
I unpaired my watch  from my old phone in order to paired it to my new phone.
After restoring from a backup, the watch says  sync process 100%, Press the 
Digital Crown to start.
Well, pressing it does nothing. Also pressing the side button does nothing.
So I can’t power off the watch. What can I do?
Thanks,
Rob

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Reinstalling Catalina over Catalina without loosing my data?

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Dear List,
Is it possible to reinstall Catalina, by running the installer and not loose my 
files?
My Mac is sluggish and stops responding. I am so tired of hearing the word 
Busy, Its driving
Me nutty!
I am not ready for Big Sur yet, so hope that reinstalling Catalina will help. I 
did not want to do a new install by wiping the drive.

Thanks,
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Re: problem with my Mac Mini

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Hi,
Did you try turning up the volume?
And toggling voiceover on and off with command F5.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> last night I was using vlc media player on my Mac. I turned it off to go and 
> do something else.when I came backto the computer vo just wouldn't say 
> anything no matter what I did. I tried everything and then finally rebooted. 
> still nothing. Isuppose I'll have to take it to the Apple store but I thought 
> I'd just check to see if anybody had suggestions. it was workingperfectly 
> normally until I quit vlc.
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Re: But All I Wanted was Touch ID

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OK, Are you saying that I want need any adapters to plug a USB-C cable into my 
USB on my iMac 2015?
I may be wrong, but I thought USB-C was bigger than a normal USB, Please 
correct me if I’m wrong.


> On Oct 18, 2020, at 3:31 PM, joseph hodge  wrote:
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> Hey Robert the iPhone 12 and 12 pro models all come with a USB-C to lightning 
> cable which you can just plug into your Mac and your iPhone respectively! The 
> only thing I will say to your question about the including the brick in the 
> box I’m one of those who don’t care honestly but at the end of the day what 
> you’re saying about just paying a little extra to get the brick they would 
> still have to box some up with the bricks which would then cause cost in 
> production. Anytime you touch the box from something to add a part it does 
> cost money. I’m not saying I’m against you on your thought process but just 
> wanted to clarify that.
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>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 3:15 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> I agree with the Touch ID.
>> And another thing, Apple should be ashamed of them selves.
>> I don’t own a new MacBook with USB-C.
>> So If I get a iPhone 12, What do I need to purchase in order to charge it?
>> And will I yet need another adapter to connect the iPhone 12 to my late 2015 
>> iMac?
>> If you ask me, witch you did not, Its not about saving the environment, as 
>> much as it is saving money by not giving us a charging brick.
>> They did not even take $5 off the price of the phone. And it makes me upset 
>> to hear people defend Apple by saying it was a brilliant idea to not include 
>> a charging brick. They could have offered us a choice to purchase 
>> With or without the charging brick.
>> Thats all, I’m through now!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 9:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Well, I was wrong.  I truly thought that Apple would include a fingerprint
>>> sensor on at least one of its devices in the iPhone 12 series.  
>>> 
>>> I watched the entire presentation and could not help thinking, at its
>>> conclusion, "But all I wanted was Touch ID."  
>>> 
>>> I am so disappointed.  It's almost enough to make me leave the Apple
>>> orchard; but not quite.
>>> 
>>> You know, I wouldn't have found the lack of a fingerprint sensor on the new
>>> iPhone 12 series so startlingly disappointing if I were not using a
>>> fantastic in-screen fingerprint reader on my Samsung Galaxy phone, every
>>> single day.  I mean, to my mind, if Samsung can do it, and do it extremely
>>> well, I might add, then why not Apple?  
>>> 
>>> Regardless, the proverbial seeds for this year's crop have been sewn and we
>>> must reap, what we must.  
>>> 
>>> I definitely see a new battery for my beloved 8 Plus in my near future.  
>>> 
>>> I don't know, I may grab an S E but will attempt to hold onto my beloved 8
>>> Plus for a little longer.
>>> 
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Re: But All I Wanted was Touch ID

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I agree with the Touch ID.
And another thing, Apple should be ashamed of them selves.
I don’t own a new MacBook with USB-C.
So If I get a iPhone 12, What do I need to purchase in order to charge it?
And will I yet need another adapter to connect the iPhone 12 to my late 2015 
iMac?
If you ask me, witch you did not, Its not about saving the environment, as much 
as it is saving money by not giving us a charging brick.
They did not even take $5 off the price of the phone. And it makes me upset to 
hear people defend Apple by saying it was a brilliant idea to not include a 
charging brick. They could have offered us a choice to purchase 
With or without the charging brick.
Thats all, I’m through now!


> On Oct 14, 2020, at 9:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, I was wrong.  I truly thought that Apple would include a fingerprint
> sensor on at least one of its devices in the iPhone 12 series.  
> 
> I watched the entire presentation and could not help thinking, at its
> conclusion, "But all I wanted was Touch ID."  
> 
> I am so disappointed.  It's almost enough to make me leave the Apple
> orchard; but not quite.
> 
> You know, I wouldn't have found the lack of a fingerprint sensor on the new
> iPhone 12 series so startlingly disappointing if I were not using a
> fantastic in-screen fingerprint reader on my Samsung Galaxy phone, every
> single day.  I mean, to my mind, if Samsung can do it, and do it extremely
> well, I might add, then why not Apple?  
> 
> Regardless, the proverbial seeds for this year's crop have been sewn and we
> must reap, what we must.  
> 
> I definitely see a new battery for my beloved 8 Plus in my near future.  
> 
> I don't know, I may grab an S E but will attempt to hold onto my beloved 8
> Plus for a little longer.
> 
> Mark
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Reinstalling BootCamp?

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Dear List,
Are there any problems installing the latest version of windows on boot camp?
Using a late 2015 iMac and Catalina.
The reason is that last night I restored windows 10 to factory settings, it 
seemed to have when well. So I shut it down and went to bed. Today windows want 
start, It goes to the Mac, and when I go to startup disks, I get an error and 
it want open.
So it seems that I need to reinstall BootCamp.
Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Looking for accessible HTML editor

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Dear List, Is there a free accessible html editor?
As of now I rename the .html to .txt and open it with Text Edit.
But I would like to know if there’s a easy way to do it using a html editor on 
the Mac.
Thanks,
Rob

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Looking for FTP app for Mac

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Dear List,
Can you suggest a free accessible FTP app for the Mac?
Thanks,
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Problem with Live FaceBook Video and comments

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear List,
I am having problems writing comments while watching a live video on FaceBook.
I’m using Safari on the Mac.
As the video is playing, If I use quick-Nav or use normal VO keys to move to 
the comment field, it seems to mute the video.
If I move back up near the volume button, the sound automatically starts again. 
But sometimes I have to press the volume button to get sound back.
This is very annoying. 
I even turned off cursor tracking with no help.
I also turned off VoiceOver while the video was playing, and when I turned 
VoiceOver back on, the video muted again.
Am I the only one with this issue?
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: translation from windows to Mac

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Hi,
On the Mac, The alt key is the Options key.
And the Windows key is the Command key.
I use a standard Windows keyboard with my Mac.


> On Aug 4, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm on this website that's completely inaccessible. it says accessible 
> navigation alt+1. what does that translate to on a Mac keyboard?
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Looking for easy video editing software

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Dear List,
Is there a free accessible video editor with hot keys for copy cut and delete 
functions for the Mac?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: Decreasing the verbosity of VO during Zoom Meetings

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Hi,
Try adding a commander to mute voice over on the Mac.
I use options plus tilder.
To mute and unmute on the fly.
So, press the hot key to mute and speak, then press it again to unmute.


> On Jul 8, 2020, at 9:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Yolanda,
> 
> to the best of my knowledge, there is no way to do this, other than muting 
> Voiceover, which he probably does not want to do. My recommendation would be 
> that he just wear headphones. That will solve the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> We have a student using zoom on the mac to attend a lot of different
>> online conferences. He stays muted unless he wants to speak then he
>> holds down the spacebar and speaks and releases it when he is finished
>> talking. The issue which arises is VO gives the announcement abouted
>> being unmuted and has spoken longer than he has by the time he is
>> finished.
>> 
>> The question is:
>> Is there a way to decrease the verbosity of VO during zoom sessions so
>> he can avoid the nuisance status of his microphone?
>> Thanks in Advance.
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Re: Downloading youtube videos to Mac

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www.clipgrab.org


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> Hello,
> Can anyone recommend a VO friendly way to download youtube videos on Mac/OS 
> Catalina for showing offline? I have searched the web for “How to download 
> youtube videos” and found the replies complicated and confusing. I tried a 
> couple of the recommended methods without reliable joy. I don’t mind a modest 
> one off payment if that helps..
> Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell  
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Re: I can't edit formulas in Numbers

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That fixed it.
Thanks


> On May 24, 2020, at 11:05 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> After pressing option-return, the cursor is placed at the end of the formula. 
>  The step that you’re missing is to VO-left to the “Formula Options” button.  
> VO-space on this button and select the “Show Formula as text” item.  Now the 
> formula within the cell is editable text, including the cell references.  So, 
> yes, using this process, you are able to change B40 to B45 simply by arrowing 
> within the formula until the cursor is after the 0, pressing the Delete key, 
> then typing the number 5, and finally pressing the return.  Be sure to use 
> the “Show Formula As Text” item, not the “Convert to Text in Cell” item as 
> the latter will change the formula to text and the formula will be displayed 
> in the cell and no calculation will happen.  Of course, you can fix this by 
> arrowing to the front of the text and adding the “=“ sign then pressing 
> return.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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> On May 24, 2020, at 7:21 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Ok, are you saying that I cannot delete just the b40
> and replace it with b45, without retyping most of the formula? 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Robert Cole > <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That is how I do it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 24, 2020, at 7:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Press option-return on the cell you wish to edit.  then arrow through the 
>>> formula to make changes.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>>> On May 24, 2020, at 4:05 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear List,
>>> For the longest time, I have been copying the formula and pasteing it into 
>>> Text Edit, to edit it.
>>> For example, my formula is
>>> SUM(B6:B40)
>>> If I tried to edit in numbers, VoiceOver will not read by characters. It 
>>> just repeats
>>> SUM sum )
>>> Pressing up or down arrow gets the same results.
>>> I even tried quick nav set to characters but VoiceOver refuse to cooperate.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
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Re: I can't edit formulas in Numbers

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Ok, are you saying that I cannot delete just the b40
and replace it with b45, without retyping most of the formula? 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
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> 
> That is how I do it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 24, 2020, at 7:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Press option-return on the cell you wish to edit.  then arrow through the 
>> formula to make changes.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 24, 2020, at 4:05 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> For the longest time, I have been copying the formula and pasteing it into 
>> Text Edit, to edit it.
>> For example, my formula is
>> SUM(B6:B40)
>> If I tried to edit in numbers, VoiceOver will not read by characters. It 
>> just repeats
>> SUM sum )
>> Pressing up or down arrow gets the same results.
>> I even tried quick nav set to characters but VoiceOver refuse to cooperate.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>> 
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Re: I can't edit formulas in Numbers

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That is how I do it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2020, at 7:34 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Press option-return on the cell you wish to edit.  then arrow through the 
> formula to make changes.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 24, 2020, at 4:05 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> For the longest time, I have been copying the formula and pasteing it into 
> Text Edit, to edit it.
> For example, my formula is
> SUM(B6:B40)
> If I tried to edit in numbers, VoiceOver will not read by characters. It just 
> repeats
> SUM sum )
> Pressing up or down arrow gets the same results.
> I even tried quick nav set to characters but VoiceOver refuse to cooperate.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
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I can't edit formulas in Numbers

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Dear List,
For the longest time, I have been copying the formula and pasteing it into Text 
Edit, to edit it.
For example, my formula is
SUM(B6:B40)
If I tried to edit in numbers, VoiceOver will not read by characters. It just 
repeats
SUM sum )
Pressing up or down arrow gets the same results.
I even tried quick nav set to characters but VoiceOver refuse to cooperate.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rob


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Re: Downloading a video from youtube

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Hi,
I use ClipGrab,
www.ClipGrab.org 



> On May 12, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Can you recommend a way to download a video from youtube on my iMac so that I 
> can play it via Zoom without advertisements? I only need to do this rarely 
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

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Yes, it works did you download the 64-bit version?

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> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
> I’m getting an error.
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Re: Incoming email sounds on the Mac

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Hi,
You can use m4a as well as .aiff files.
I recorded a short demo showing how easy it is if you have the files already on 
your Mac. I don’t purchase tones from Apple, so I can’t tell you how to get 
them off the phone and onto the Mac.
Download the demo below:
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZxDenkZ5BqAJDUzJV7VC13bc234wVGaIuoX

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Petrus,
> 
> Actually, I lied.  What a scum-bag, eh?  I may have read too much into your 
> question.  The problems I was referring to have to do with ring-tones in the 
> Messages app and Phone app on your iPhone/iPad.  As you know, you can 
> customize these in iPhone/iPad, and my woes had to do with attempts to 
> customize the same sounds in Messages and FaceTime on the Mac.
> 
> So, now what you've really asked is actually fairly quick and painless as 
> long as your custom alert sound is an AIFF file.  What you do is paste the 
> AIFF audio file into the Sounds folder in ~/Library.  That is, go to your 
> Desktop, then to the menubar, over to the Go menu, make sure to keep the VO 
> keys pressed and go down to the Library item and activate with return or 
> VO-space.  Now, your personal Library folder is open and you can locate the 
> Sounds folder, open it and paste in the AIFF sound file.  Once it is in this 
> location, go back into the Mail app, to Preferences, and in the General pane 
> you'll have that new sound as an option.
> 
> If you don't have an app to convert your sound file into an AIFF, send it to 
> me off-list and I'll convert it for you.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 13:09, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, 
> That answers my question. I still can’t understand why apple makes it so 
> difficult. Like I said most of the default sounds for the messages app are 
> available on both the Mac and the iPhone, but the alert sounds for the Mail 
> app are very limited. I haven’t counted them but I’m guessing it is only 
> around 9 options, none of which are very exciting. Surely it can’t be that 
> difficult to let us download sounds that we have purchased from their own 
> iTunes Store to our Mac’s? 
> I might email then and ask but I’m guessing that won’t help as they don’t 
> like getting suggestions. And I’m not sure what email address to use.
> 
>> On 13/03/2020, at 03:33, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A year or so ago, I did some research on this.  Supposedly it works.  So, I 
>> migrated my tones I use on my iPad and iPhone over to the Mac and placed 
>> them into the specific location where the Mac grabs these sound files from 
>> when making Mail or Message alerts.  You'll note that

>> I'm being fairly vague in my description and this is purposeful.  The 
>> specific location is deeper in the System and is not usually accessed by the 
>> day-to-day user.  I can't remember for sure, but I may have even needed to 
>> disable System Integrity Protection to do it.  After all this, it still 
>> didn't work.  The tone choices did appear in Messages for me, but when I 
>> chose them, they did not play.  I either got no sound at all, or it switched 
>> back to the default alert sound.  Again, I'm not positive.  I gave up for 
>> now.
>> 
>> So, essentially, it's supposed to be possible, not for the faint of heart, 
>> and not necessarily a successful venture.  Maybe I'll take a look at it 
>> again in Catalina in a bit, but wouldn't hold much stock in success.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 22:36, Bradford Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> So, can you explain how to do this.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 19:50, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, one can certainly add sounds to Mail rules. I don't know if they need 
>> to be a specific type or not. Traditionally, Mac system sounds were AIFF 
>> files, but I expect that the there is a bit more flexibility these days.
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Re: How do I delete ringTones?

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Please remember I’m still using IOS 12.
Nothing happens when I swipe up or down on the list of RingTones.


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> If you go into sounds, and pick a category, you can delete the ring tones 
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>> Dear List,
>> 
>> Using Mac OS Catalina, and IOS 12, I cant seem to delete ringTones.
>> 
>> On the phone under settings/ general/ iPhone Storage/ Music, I can delete 
>> music, but RingTones dont show here.
>> 
>> And I cant find them using Catalina.
>> 
>> Any help will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> rob
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Re: Catalina Installer not showing in Startup

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Hi,
I was using the partition with Windows, so it was fat32.
 the disk Creator app will do the correct formatting for you.
But, in your case, try creating the partition with the default settings.


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Robert,
> So, are the steps to 
> a) Partition the disk 
> b) Format a 9GB partition as HFS 
> C) run the software to move installer into partition
> 
> If I remember correctly, and I haven’t worked with Disk Utility in 4-5 years, 
> there are two different partition mapping protocols available. Did you pick 
> one or just use defaults?
> Thanks!
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> 
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>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 12:42 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> This message is for those who are having trouble with Catalina Installer not 
>> showing in Startup disks.
>> Did you know that you could create a 9GB partition and use Install Disk 
>> Creator.app to create the Catalina installer?
>> This is how I installed Catalina.
>> This method shows in startup disks as well as when booting and holding the 
>> option key.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
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Catalina Installer not showing in Startup

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Hi,
This message is for those who are having trouble with Catalina Installer not 
showing in Startup disks.
Did you know that you could create a 9GB partition and use Install Disk 
Creator.app to create the Catalina installer?
This is how I installed Catalina.
This method shows in startup disks as well as when booting and holding the 
option key.

Thanks,
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Catalina's music app? Solved

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I solved the problem by selecting the music app,
Pressing VO+Shift+M.
Then hold down the option key while pressing Enter.
Then I was able to choose the iTunes.itl file from my Mojave backup.
So now my Playlists are now in the music app.
Thanks,
Rob

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Dear List,
I did not upgrade, I did a clean install of Catalina.
So my question is, Is there a way to import my music and playlists from a 
carbon copy cloner Mojave backup?
Can it be done using the iTunes files from the home/music/iTunes folder?
I had a lot of Playlists. I don’t want to  make them all over again.
I got the music on Catalina, I just need the playlist data.
Thanks,
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Catalina's music app?

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Dear List,
I did not upgrade, I did a clean install of Catalina.
So my question is, Is there a way to import my music and playlists from a 
carbon copy cloner Mojave backup?
Can it be done using the iTunes files from the home/music/iTunes folder?
I had a lot of Playlists. I don’t want to  make them all over again.
I got the music on Catalina, I just need the playlist data.
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How do I read preview of mail without opening it?

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Dear List,
I did a clean install of Catalina.
I’m trying the mail app, but can’t get it to read 5 lines of the message when 
arrowing down the list of messages.
Is this a bug or limitation of Catalina?
Or maybe I don’t know what I am doing.
Thanks,
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Re: Getting Stuck in Customer Reviews: Amazon.com

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Here is a message on this subject by Tim Kilburn
  from another list.
———
Hi,

As Johnathan suggested.  You can set up an Activity to have Amazon's web 
address behave in a specific manner with VO.  Using the suggestion I gave of 
having the Mouse Pointer ignore the VO Cursor instead of attempting to work 
with Java.  Amazon also has a link on their front page that reads something to 
the effect of "Amazon has updated its screen reader friendly version of our 
site.  Click on this link to access it."

Although, if you'd like to create the activity to do what I've suggested, do 
the following:

• open the VO Utility
• cmd-0, or select Activities from the categories table.
• press the Add an Activity button.
• give it a name
• stop interacting with the table and expand the "Additional Setting to 
Include" item.
• check the Navigation checkbox.
• press the "Set Navigation" button.
• make sure that the Mouse Pointer ignores the VO Cursor and close this dialog.
• navigate to the Apps & Web-sites menu item and add www.amazon.com 
.
• close everything and you should be good.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


> On Dec 13, 2019, at 4:55 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> As Johnathan suggested.  You can set up an Activity to have Amazon's web 
> address behave in a specific manner with VO.  Using the suggestion I gave of 
> having the Mouse Pointer ignore the VO Cursor instead of attempting to work 
> with Java.  Amazon also has a link on their front page that reads something 
> to the effect of "Amazon has updated its screen reader friendly version of 
> our site.  Click on this link to access it."
> 
> Although, if you'd like to create the activity to do what I've suggested, do 
> the following:
> 
> • open the VO Utility
> • cmd-0, or select Activities from the categories table.
> • press the Add an Activity button.
> • give it a name
> • stop interacting with the table and expand the "Additional Setting to 
> Include" item.
> • check the Navigation checkbox.
> • press the "Set Navigation" button.
> • make sure that the Mouse Pointer ignores the VO Cursor and close this 
> dialog.
> • navigate to the Apps & Web-sites menu item and add www.amazon.com 
> .
> • close everything and you should be good.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Dec 13, 2019, at 14:39, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
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> this happens to me all the time and it's really frustrating. "close" doesn't 
> seem to do anything. sometimes I can go down past that stuff and slowly move 
> up to read about it. I'd like to disable java script for Amazon. can somebody 
> please coach me on this?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, frustrated enough to ask for help.
>> 
>> I use amazon.com  (and this happens with m.amazon.com 
>> , also) to shop for stuff. I do a search for an item, 
>> find a list of suggestions.
>> I click on a suggestion.
>> I tab or use single-letter nav to jump to headings to try and find a 
>> description of the item.
>> Invariably I get sucked into a page or sub-page or window where all I can 
>> get are the rating percentages and a close button.
>> I click on the close button and the same darn stuff pops up again.
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>> tar-baby in the Uncle Remus story.
>> 
>> Help, I’m stuck and can’t get out.
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Re: Editing Id3 Tags with Catalina

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

What about using VLC until you can find something better.


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> On Dec 7, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Prior to Catalina, I used iTunes to edit the ID3 tags when I created a 
> podcast. Now that we don’t have iTunes, I am looking for a VoicOver 
> accessible app that allows for the creation and editing of ID3 tags. I have 
> tried one from the Mac App Store called music ID3 editor but it isn’t as 
> accessible as I would like. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert Carter
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Plex Media Server?

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Dear List,
Is the Plex media accessible on the Mac and Apple TV, or the iPhone?
Thanks in advance,
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How do I stop the announcement 1 row added?

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Hi,
I need help remembering How do I stop the announcement 1 row added when reading 
mail.
Its interrupting my reading.
I’m using Yosemite.
Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Re: Download PDF in Safari instead of Opening

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Hi,
Here is the steps I take.
Once safari opens the PDF, go to the file menu and save as PDF.
And on the iPhone once the PDF is open, go to the share menu and save to iCloud 
or DropBox.


> On Nov 16, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Funny, that didn’t work either. I wonder if the link that I am trying to 
> download the pdf through is not an actual pdf and rather a script to generate 
> one—although I would have thought the result would be the same.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2019, at 10:51 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are focused on a link, press option-return to download the linked 
>> item. You can then open it in preview from your downloads folder. I realize 
>> that isn’t exactly what you are looking for, but it may work in the 
>> meantime. 
>> 
>> Later... 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 16, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Jeff Berwick >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Trying to get my new Mac back to how my old Mac works, but can’t crack this 
>>> nut.
>>> 
>>> I’ve been all over the internet, but the suggestions are not working for me.
>>> 
>>> I want PDF documents to download automatically instead of opening inside 
>>> Safari.
>>> 
>>> I’ve unchecked the open safe files after downloading checkbox in general 
>>> preferences and even run the following Terminal command:
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool YES
>>> 
>>> I’ve restarted to see if that might help, but nothing.
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thx
>>> Jeff
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