VO on iOS and Russian Braille Output

[B G]

Friends,
Anyone know how to get VO on iOS - in this instance the latest edition
on an iPhone SE - to output Russian Braille on a BrailleConnect 40
display?
I am getting question marks in uncontracted mode or the unicode values
in contracted mode; neither very helpful.
Any tips welcome.
With thanks, B.

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Accessible apps for the London Tube

[B G]

I've installed Tube Map on the iPhone but for some reason it's not
letting me past the first screen/page which is offering to quickly
show me around, I quote. Are there accessible alternatives to Tube
Map?
Many thanks, Ben

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Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

[B G]

My apologies if below content strays off-topic. i heard this a short
while ago and thought it would be a fun way of testing the quality of
your speakers.  granted it is Youtube and therefore not your CD player
(golly, giving away my age now in this age of streaming audio) but it
should be sufficient to get a measure of the depth and range.  Here is
the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU5rpnBxZnU

Awaiting your findings with bated breath.

Regards, ben

On 6/11/19, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
> hello,
>
> It was $30 approximately for the set. Actually 29 something plus tax.
>
> if you go to Amazon.com and type in the following number it will get you
> directly to the speakers
>
> ASIN  B075VBXGT2
>
>
> hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, CHUCK REICHEL
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>> were they $30.00 for each speaker?
>> Do you have a direct link to them?
>> Always looking for small systems to test out mixes on. :)
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 10:17 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> after looking around a while I found the following speaker system and I
>>> ordered it.
>>>
>>> R19U is equipped with Edifier's latest 2.75” full-range speaker unit,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> these are bookshelf speakers.
>>>
>>> USB powered and USB audio supplied.
>>>
>>> it has a jack and a complementary 3.5 mm male to male cord for other
>>> audio devices to play into the speakers. if anybody's interested I
>>> ordered this from Amazon.
>>>
>>> It should be here tomorrow.
>>>
>>> they cost around $30 US. so the reason I got these was because the USB
>>> connection supplies both power to the speakers and has the sound card for
>>> X ternal audio.
>>>
>>> Thus only using one connection.
>>>
>>> Will be interesting to see how these things work, I sure hope they do a
>>> good job.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I always use to like the mission argonaughts,
>>>> Spelling might be off but they had a great sound to them, right across
>>>> the board,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure how they'd work though with a Mac Mini. -Original
>>>> Message-
>>>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 8:55 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm also looking for good quality speakers for the mac mini.
>>>> I am attempting to find USB speakers. Not just USB powered, but also
>>>> using the USB connection for audio as well, not the 3.5 MM jack.
>>>> I have found external sound cards. I've also found many USB powered
>>>> speakers but they still use the 3.5 MM jack for the audio. Not what I
>>>> want.
>>>> I'm still looking.
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:12 PM, B G  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
>>>>> users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
>>>>> audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
>>>>> speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
>>>>>
>>>>> a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
>>>>> rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
>>>>> Much obliged, Ben
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Re: high quality speakers for mac mini

[B G]

Thank you. I've found a pair on Amazon for £230 which is reasonable I
suppose. I wonder, are they wall mountable?
Thanks also to everyone else for their recommendations.
I was going to buy a monitor with built-in speakers but then it
occurred to me that for £120 I might not get the audio quality I would
be happy with. There's nothing worse than tinny, substandard speakers
to assault your eardrums. There we are. *smile*

regards, Ben


On 6/10/19, jeff `greene  wrote:
> Hi, I found the name of the speakers I have and really love: IK
> Multimedia iLoud Micro Monitor Ultra Compact Studio Monitors.
> I paid $230 on ebay but I think list price is higher than that.
> Jeff
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Good Quality Speakers for the Mac Mini

[B G]

I thought I'd consult the list on this considering we screen-reader
users on average tend to be more selective about the quality of our
audio equipment. In short, I'm looking for either a decent set of
speakers or a monitor with a decent pair of built-in speakers. There's
a surprising dearth of quality gear in the market - on Amazon at any
rate. Can the list offer any recommendations?
Much obliged, Ben

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Re: General Screen search on iOS

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No, sorry, you believe wrong. 
The item chooser is not a manual search feature.
regards, Ben

On 6/8/19, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> Two finger triple tap brings up the item chooser.
> I believe that is what you are looking for.
>
>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 23:18, B G  wrote:
>>
>> I've a feeling we may be at somewhat of a cross-purposes here gentlemen.
>> (smile)
>> None of the choices available on the rotor will take you to the next
>> telephone number - which would just be a sequence of digits and
>> possibly a few hyphens interspersed among them -  on the page, but
>> let's not worry about that too much.
>> The idea, to recap, is a general screen search tool, in other words, a
>> means of scanning the output pages for a string of unicode characters.
>> You'd be able to conjure up search within any app, in any screen
>> (hence the term general) and assuming the success of the search, shift
>> focus on to your quarry in one single leap, as it were.
>>
>> Again, do please feel free to ask if you're unclear about anything.
>> Regards, Ben
>>
>>
>> On 6/8/19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> Do you know about the Rota and it's different features?
>>>
>>> If you are in safari and need to work through things then the rota has
>>> things such as viewed links, links
>>> Headings  containers
>>> Buttons,
>>> And a truckload of others,
>>> I'd say use those to find what your looking for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of B G
>>> Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2019 12:55 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries 
>>> Subject: General Screen search on iOS
>>>
>>> Unless the feature exists already -- and has therefore hitherto escaped
>>> my
>>> notice -- a general screen  search tool on iOS would come in very handy.
>>> Suppose you're in Safari and the information, e.g. a phone number, is
>>> many
>>> lines or even screens down. Rather than traversing everything before you
>>> get
>>> to it, you would perform a unique gesture, e.g. a two-finger rest i.e.
>>> tap
>>> and hold in position, followed by a thumb swipe to pull up a search
>>> dialogue
>>> box. You would enter your search text and press enter (or perform a
>>> two-finger right swipe on the onscreen Braille keypad) and voila, focus
>>> is
>>> positioned at the start of your search result! Of course, you could make
>>> the
>>> feature as fancy and elaborate as you want but its very basic function
>>> should be searching for the next occurrence of the search string, and
>>> positioning focus at start of said string.
>>> What does the list think? Any comments, criticisms, any flaws in the
>>> idea,
>>> all welcome.
>>> I'm hoping once we've hammered out something we could all agree on we
>>> will
>>> then present it to Apple as a feature request.
>>> Ben
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Re: General Screen search on iOS

[B G]

I've a feeling we may be at somewhat of a cross-purposes here gentlemen. (smile)
None of the choices available on the rotor will take you to the next
telephone number - which would just be a sequence of digits and
possibly a few hyphens interspersed among them -  on the page, but
let's not worry about that too much.
The idea, to recap, is a general screen search tool, in other words, a
means of scanning the output pages for a string of unicode characters.
You'd be able to conjure up search within any app, in any screen
(hence the term general) and assuming the success of the search, shift
focus on to your quarry in one single leap, as it were.

Again, do please feel free to ask if you're unclear about anything.
Regards, Ben


On 6/8/19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Do you know about the Rota and it's different features?
>
> If you are in safari and need to work through things then the rota has
> things such as viewed links, links
> Headings  containers
> Buttons,
> And a truckload of others,
> I'd say use those to find what your looking for.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of B G
> Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2019 12:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: General Screen search on iOS
>
> Unless the feature exists already -- and has therefore hitherto escaped my
> notice -- a general screen  search tool on iOS would come in very handy.
> Suppose you're in Safari and the information, e.g. a phone number, is many
> lines or even screens down. Rather than traversing everything before you get
> to it, you would perform a unique gesture, e.g. a two-finger rest i.e. tap
> and hold in position, followed by a thumb swipe to pull up a search dialogue
> box. You would enter your search text and press enter (or perform a
> two-finger right swipe on the onscreen Braille keypad) and voila, focus is
> positioned at the start of your search result! Of course, you could make the
> feature as fancy and elaborate as you want but its very basic function
> should be searching for the next occurrence of the search string, and
> positioning focus at start of said string.
> What does the list think? Any comments, criticisms, any flaws in the idea,
> all welcome.
> I'm hoping once we've hammered out something we could all agree on we will
> then present it to Apple as a feature request.
> Ben
>
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General Screen search on iOS

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Unless the feature exists already -- and has therefore hitherto
escaped my notice -- a general screen  search tool on iOS would come
in very handy.  Suppose you're in Safari and the information, e.g. a
phone number, is many lines or even screens down. Rather than
traversing everything before you get to it, you would perform a unique
gesture, e.g. a two-finger rest i.e. tap and hold in position,
followed by a thumb swipe to pull up a search dialogue box. You would
enter your search text and press enter (or perform a two-finger right
swipe on the onscreen Braille keypad) and voila, focus is positioned
at the start of your search result! Of course, you could make the
feature as fancy and elaborate as you want but its very basic function
should be searching for the next occurrence of the search string, and
positioning focus at start of said string.
What does the list think? Any comments, criticisms, any flaws in the
idea, all welcome.
I'm hoping once we've hammered out something we could all agree on we
will then present it to Apple as a feature request.
Ben

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Buying a mac: back to the drawing board

[B G]

apple have just confirmed the refund for the MacBook by email. I
decided that a mac Mini would meet my use-cases more wholesomely than
a MacBook. Initially the plan was to stick to the same hardware
parameters - 16GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i5 processor. The nice man
from Apple however is offering me a much more impressive machine for a
very reasonable price. it has a 32GB ram, 256GB ssd and an i7
processor. yes, plenty oomf there ladies and gentlemen but my question
is, do I need that much power given what I would use it for? To recap,
my two main use-cases are: (a) running copies of MS Windows
simultaneously on VMWare Fusion and (b) programming for Mac OS and
iOS.  At a later date I might even decide to load it with Logic pro
and N.I. for making music, but that really is not a priority at this
point in time.
In short, will a machine of that description offer marked, significant
improvement over one with the specification I previously had in mind?
Thoughts from everyone and specially the more experienced hacks would
be gratefully received.
Incidentally, I am typing this in the web box which offers me no
spell-check; so apologies for any spelling error.
With thanks, Benji

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Re: Navigation apps on iOS

[B G]

Just took Lazarillo out for a spin ... my, it does have an appetite -
the charge level was nearly halved by the time I got back.
but overall quite good, thanks for the suggestion.
Any others?

On 5/31/19, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Lazarillo works well in uk and is free!
> Hatry
>
>> On 31 May 2019, at 08:45, B G  wrote:
>>
>> Was wondering if the list had any suggestions for navigation apps on
>> iOS. I am looking for one which would guide me to locations by simply
>> entering the address and postcode - just like the sat nav thing in
>> cars albeit designed with sight-impaired users in mind, naturally.
>> *smile*
>> I live in the UK in case it affects my choices.
>> Thanks, B.
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Navigation apps on iOS

[B G]

Was wondering if the list had any suggestions for navigation apps on
iOS. I am looking for one which would guide me to locations by simply
entering the address and postcode - just like the sat nav thing in
cars albeit designed with sight-impaired users in mind, naturally.
*smile*
I live in the UK in case it affects my choices.
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Update on the Mac OS Feature suggestion

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Thought I'd let you know that Apple has just been in touch to say
thank you etc. and that the ideas have been passed on to the boffins.
So, do feel free to email them in if you haven't already. With hope
they'll be pushed higher up their wish list and implemented in the not
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Re: Any Greek speakers on this list?

[B G]

Ναι, καταλαβαίνω λίγο ελληνικά.
But I've just sent the MacBook Air back to be replaced by a Mini soon.
Ben

On 5/29/19, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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> If there are any Greek speakers other than myself on this list using Greek
> voice on the mac in Mojave, could you confirm that the Greek voice hasn’t
> yet been fixed by Apple although I’ve been reporting this since High Sierra
> release?  I’m getting desperate as I can’t upgrade to Mojave because of the
> Greek voice problem.  Apple has been ignoring my bug reports since then.
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Re: To Add to the idea

[B G]

N.B. is short for Nota Bene which literally means 'note well' in Latin
and it is used to draw the reader's attention to the line that it
precedes. You said something about German systems being well designed
albeit overly complex and I was reminded of the well-known German car
brand, Mercedes for upholding a similar design approach.
N.B. 'Everything must be made as simple as possible and not simpler.'
Albert Einstein.
'Funny' can mean laughable or strange, peculiar. 'Fun' can mean
enjoyable, amusing. The distinctions can be a bit blurred in places;
hence your understandable confusion.  Do look them up here at:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/english where you'll find example
sentences for both. If still unclear then feel free to drop me a line
privately.


On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> :-) What means "N.B.“ in long form?
>
> „fun not funny“ Thanks for the clarification. I’m not really aware of the
> differents but always eager to learn. Is funny not just the adjective of
> fun?
>
> Yes, braille without contractions is what german blind braille users on
> Apple devices use all the time. But it would be great to have a good
> contracted braille too. But this is of course whining at a high level.
>
> Jürgen
>
>> Am 27.05.2019 um 18:17 schrieb B G :
>>
>> N.B. Mercedes cars. *smile*
>> Just for clarity, and forgive me for the apparent pedantry, I think
>> you mean 'fun' and not 'funny'.
>> maybe a simplified Braille code for German would address the
>> above-mentioned et al. I have heard of systems which are entirely in
>> long-hand i.e. with no contraction; not sure if the underlying
>> rationale is to avoid the type of problems you're citing.
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> In my Windows time there was a german program for this called BKCom.
>>> Never
>>> liked it very much because writing braille on these smal keyboard keys
>>> wasn’t very funny. I wouldn’t need to write braille on a normal
>>> keyboard.
>>> But anyway there might be a group of people who really would appreciate
>>> this
>>> function. So give them the suggestion.To have a keyboard shortcut for
>>> this
>>> would be great.
>>>
>>> Yes, german braille is well designed but to complicated in its exception
>>> rules for automated processes. There was  a person named Wolfgang Hubert
>>> who
>>> collected all exeptional rules and put it in a database. Rumors say it
>>> has
>>> more then 1 million entries and he seems not to be willing to share it
>>> with
>>> Apple or Apple might be not interested in it. For example: if you put an
>>> f
>>> at the end of a word it means a certain endig but only if it sits at the
>>> end
>>> of certain words. At the end of other words it’s just meant as an f. The
>>> computer needs to know in which case which end to put, And this is very
>>> difficult in german. Apple uses a free available braille contraction
>>> table
>>> for german braille but this is very unprecise in terms of these rules.
>>> And
>>> so it’s not funny to use Apples version of contracted braille in german.
>>> And
>>> to stress the stereotype once again: german things are mostly well done
>>> but
>>> sometimes too complicated. ;-)
>>>
>>>> Am 27.05.2019 um 17:27 schrieb B G :
>>>>
>>>> Good point. How about having a hotkey toggle for switching in an out
>>>> of Braille input mode? Say, VO with some key or another to turn on
>>>> Braille and a chorded shortcut to switch back to the qwerty layout.
>>>> You can't use more than one keyboard at a time in any case.
>>>>
>>>> I was under the impression that German Braille was very well
>>>> constructed albeit a little rule-heavy, not wishing to get into German
>>>> stereotypes, of course. *smile*
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>>>> I’d personally prefere only a solution via the Trackpad. I’d like to
>>>>> keep
>>>>> both input methods simultaniously usable, normal keaboard via the
>>>>> Keyboard
>>>>> and braille keyboard via Trackpad. Otherwise what’s the benefit
>>>>> changing
>>>>> keyboard layout of the normal keyboard? Especially because contracted
>>>>> braille in my mother tongue, german, is a little catastrophy. It’s so
>>>>> full
>>>>> of wrong contraction rules it’s nearly useless. And I’m writing very
>>>>

Re: To Add to the idea

[B G]

N.B. Mercedes cars. *smile*
Just for clarity, and forgive me for the apparent pedantry, I think
you mean 'fun' and not 'funny'.
maybe a simplified Braille code for German would address the
above-mentioned et al. I have heard of systems which are entirely in
long-hand i.e. with no contraction; not sure if the underlying
rationale is to avoid the type of problems you're citing.


On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> In my Windows time there was a german program for this called BKCom. Never
> liked it very much because writing braille on these smal keyboard keys
> wasn’t very funny. I wouldn’t need to write braille on a normal keyboard.
> But anyway there might be a group of people who really would appreciate this
> function. So give them the suggestion.To have a keyboard shortcut for this
> would be great.
>
> Yes, german braille is well designed but to complicated in its exception
> rules for automated processes. There was  a person named Wolfgang Hubert who
> collected all exeptional rules and put it in a database. Rumors say it has
> more then 1 million entries and he seems not to be willing to share it with
> Apple or Apple might be not interested in it. For example: if you put an f
> at the end of a word it means a certain endig but only if it sits at the end
> of certain words. At the end of other words it’s just meant as an f. The
> computer needs to know in which case which end to put, And this is very
> difficult in german. Apple uses a free available braille contraction table
> for german braille but this is very unprecise in terms of these rules. And
> so it’s not funny to use Apples version of contracted braille in german. And
> to stress the stereotype once again: german things are mostly well done but
> sometimes too complicated. ;-)
>
>> Am 27.05.2019 um 17:27 schrieb B G :
>>
>> Good point. How about having a hotkey toggle for switching in an out
>> of Braille input mode? Say, VO with some key or another to turn on
>> Braille and a chorded shortcut to switch back to the qwerty layout.
>> You can't use more than one keyboard at a time in any case.
>>
>> I was under the impression that German Braille was very well
>> constructed albeit a little rule-heavy, not wishing to get into German
>> stereotypes, of course. *smile*
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> I’d personally prefere only a solution via the Trackpad. I’d like to
>>> keep
>>> both input methods simultaniously usable, normal keaboard via the
>>> Keyboard
>>> and braille keyboard via Trackpad. Otherwise what’s the benefit changing
>>> keyboard layout of the normal keyboard? Especially because contracted
>>> braille in my mother tongue, german, is a little catastrophy. It’s so
>>> full
>>> of wrong contraction rules it’s nearly useless. And I’m writing very
>>> fast
>>> using my 10 fingers. But to have both methods abailable at the same time
>>> would be very handy.
>>> Jürgen
>>>> Am 27.05.2019 um 16:32 schrieb 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>  it's called 6-key entry.
>>>>
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/27/2019 3:48 AM, B G wrote:
>>>>> One could have some of the qwerty keys turned into Braille input keys
>>>>> - similar to the the idea originally introduced by Duxbury in the
>>>>> 90's. Thus, your f, d, s, j, k, l keys would map to dots 1, 2, 3, 4,
>>>>> 5, 6, and the a and ; (semicolon) keys to dots 7 and 8.
>>>>> What do we think?
>>>>> Ben
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Re: To Add to the idea

[B G]

Good point. How about having a hotkey toggle for switching in an out
of Braille input mode? Say, VO with some key or another to turn on
Braille and a chorded shortcut to switch back to the qwerty layout.
You can't use more than one keyboard at a time in any case.

I was under the impression that German Braille was very well
constructed albeit a little rule-heavy, not wishing to get into German
stereotypes, of course. *smile*
Ben


On 5/27/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> I’d personally prefere only a solution via the Trackpad. I’d like to keep
> both input methods simultaniously usable, normal keaboard via the Keyboard
> and braille keyboard via Trackpad. Otherwise what’s the benefit changing
> keyboard layout of the normal keyboard? Especially because contracted
> braille in my mother tongue, german, is a little catastrophy. It’s so full
> of wrong contraction rules it’s nearly useless. And I’m writing very fast
> using my 10 fingers. But to have both methods abailable at the same time
> would be very handy.
> Jürgen
>> Am 27.05.2019 um 16:32 schrieb 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> :
>>
>>   it's called 6-key entry.
>>
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>
>> On 5/27/2019 3:48 AM, B G wrote:
>>> One could have some of the qwerty keys turned into Braille input keys
>>> - similar to the the idea originally introduced by Duxbury in the
>>> 90's. Thus, your f, d, s, j, k, l keys would map to dots 1, 2, 3, 4,
>>> 5, 6, and the a and ; (semicolon) keys to dots 7 and 8.
>>> What do we think?
>>> Ben
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Re: Just a thought, an idea for VO on Mac OS

[B G]

Do you mean the trackpad? My addition to the idea should address that.
You would use your qwerty keys to input Braille. To recap, F, D, S, J,
K, L would correspond to dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; and a and the
semicolon to 7 and 8. Of course, one could build upon that and
introduce the chord concept first modeled by Blazy Engineering in
their BnS products.  The basis for the idea being the combination of
the space key (or bar) with a Braille character to execute commands
e.g. space-o (i.e. space together with dots 1, 3, and 5) to substitute
for command (Apple) o for opening a file/folder; you get the idea.
*smile*
on the MacBook keyboard this would solve - at least in part -
negotiating with the overly compactness of the keyboard as some might
see it. it would certainly increase input speed and reduce error
corollation as it were on the conventional qwerty keyboard. Worth a
reminder that the existing qwerty layout was designed - the original
design was in fact altered - in order to save early typewriters from
fast typists who were apparently wrecking them with merciless
dexterity. *smile*
Comments, criticisms, suggestions, all welcome.
Ben

On 5/27/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Maybe it could be something for those who use that.
> I can’t use it because i don’t get it.
> But yes why not?
> /A
>
>> 26 maj 2019 kl. 13:57 skrev B G :
>>
>> 'Was thinking wouldn't it be nice (sounds like the Beach Boys number)
>> *smile*
>> Wouldn't it be nice if one also had the on-screen Braille keypad on
>> Mac OS VO? It would be accessible on the trackpad, and you'd be able
>> to enter text, programming code i.a. in contracted Braille.
>> There we are, thought I'd share that with you.
>> Ben
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To Add to the idea

[B G]

One could have some of the qwerty keys turned into Braille input keys
- similar to the the idea originally introduced by Duxbury in the
90's. Thus, your f, d, s, j, k, l keys would map to dots 1, 2, 3, 4,
5, 6, and the a and ; (semicolon) keys to dots 7 and 8.

What do we think?
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Re: Accessible Metronome apps for iOS

[B G]

Thank you Simon I am now using Smart Metronome as recommended by one
of our friends here on the list.
Ben

On 5/27/19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> Just to a search in the app store and see what you get,
>
> There were a lot when I looked for myself.
> Including a number that allowed for different beats,
> I don’t' use them now but I could try digging them out.
>
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> Any recommendation would be gratefully received. I'm looking for one
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Re: Accessible Metronome apps for iOS

[B G]

Got it. It's aldelles lagom for my purposes. Thank you very much.
Ben


On 5/26/19, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> Hi Ben, try smart metronome. It’s not completely accessible but I think it
> will do what you want and the price is certainly right at free.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, B G  wrote:
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>> Any recommendation would be gratefully received. I'm looking for one
>> covering different beats e.g. 4/4 3/4, 6/8 and so forth.
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Accessible Metronome apps for iOS

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Any recommendation would be gratefully received. I'm looking for one
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Re: Just a thought, an idea for VO on Mac OS

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I've sent Apple my feature suggestion. May I encourage those of you in
favour to contact them as well? As stated already the greater the
number the higher the likelihood of it gaining traction.
Ben

On 5/26/19, B G  wrote:
> Actually, no, I'd forgotten about them; thanks for the reminder. I
> will now send them the idea.
> Cheers, Ben
>
>
> On 5/26/19, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> Hello Ban,
>>
>> very funny. Just two minutes ago sent this suggestion to
>> accessibil...@apple.com. :-)
>>
>> If you send it too, which I guess you‘ve already done, they might
>> considder
>> it as a new feature in Mac OS.
>>
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
>>
>>
>> Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet
>>
>>> Am 26.05.2019 um 13:57 schrieb B G :
>>>
>>> 'Was thinking wouldn't it be nice (sounds like the Beach Boys number)
>>> *smile*
>>> Wouldn't it be nice if one also had the on-screen Braille keypad on
>>> Mac OS VO? It would be accessible on the trackpad, and you'd be able
>>> to enter text, programming code i.a. in contracted Braille.
>>> There we are, thought I'd share that with you.
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Re: Just a thought, an idea for VO on Mac OS

[B G]

Actually, no, I'd forgotten about them; thanks for the reminder. I
will now send them the idea.
Cheers, Ben


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>
> very funny. Just two minutes ago sent this suggestion to
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>
> If you send it too, which I guess you‘ve already done, they might considder
> it as a new feature in Mac OS.
>
> All the best
> Jürgen
>
>
> Von meinem iPad Pro gesendet
>
>> Am 26.05.2019 um 13:57 schrieb B G :
>>
>> 'Was thinking wouldn't it be nice (sounds like the Beach Boys number)
>> *smile*
>> Wouldn't it be nice if one also had the on-screen Braille keypad on
>> Mac OS VO? It would be accessible on the trackpad, and you'd be able
>> to enter text, programming code i.a. in contracted Braille.
>> There we are, thought I'd share that with you.
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Just a thought, an idea for VO on Mac OS

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'Was thinking wouldn't it be nice (sounds like the Beach Boys number) *smile*
Wouldn't it be nice if one also had the on-screen Braille keypad on
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The Magic Keyboard: Arguments for and against

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Having seen the prices I feel I must have an adequately convincing
argument for buying one. Are there non-Apple equivalents, for example,
at more reasonable prices?
Your help as always much appreciated.
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Re: autocorrection on pages?

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Thanks. yes, I am quite impressed by its usability. I use TeX / LaTeX
on Windows and I plan to continue that on the Mac. Next on the list I
suppose has got to be a decent laser printer. *smile*
Ben


On 5/17/19, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I really love pages now and have to say that once you get your head round it
> - used to be a windows and Jaws user - it all makes sense - if you have any
> other pages questions do feel free to get in touch - not an expert but use
> pages everyday - and now find I can do more and more with it.
>
>> On 17 May 2019, at 13:14, B G  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, makes perfect sense, very well written and all, thank you very much.
>> I've decided that mastering Pages in conjunction with VO is the best
>> place to start my journey in Mac OS.
>> All best, Ben
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/19, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you set spelling to check spelling whilst typing as you type you can
>>> get
>>> audible notifications when a word is miss-spelled. To get the list of
>>> alternatives and make a choice just position your cursor at the end of
>>> the
>>> word - on the last letter and a list pops up you can then use the arrow
>>> keys
>>> or trackpad to move up and down through the list of choices and hit
>>> return
>>> on the one you want.
>>>
>>> Hope this makes sense in terms of what to do
>>>
>>>> On 17 May 2019, at 11:55, B G  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, goodness me, how is this for coincidence. Only this morning I
>>>> was wondering if you can select from a list of suggestions as you can
>>>> on iOS (by flicking up or down). I haven't found an answer yet.
>>>> Ben.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/17/19, Leo Bado  wrote:
>>>>> ok thanks for your feedback Julie.
>>>>>
>>>>> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
>>>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
>>>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
>>>>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Leo Bado
>>>>>
>>>>> El 16/05/2019 a las 15:18, Julie Rattray escribió:
>>>>>> I tend to use it as correct as I go which means it offers the list
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> actually I also find the automatically correct works very well -
>>>>>> sometimes if it is a technical term it gets it wrong but generally it
>>>>>> is quite good
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16 May 2019, at 22:14, Leo Bado >>>>>> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to ask a question for those of you who are used to type and
>>>>>>> edit text on pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you find pages sufficiently enough reliable when it comes to
>>>>>>> correct spelling automatically?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have this option checked in pages preferences, and I am starting
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> use pages for text-processing on a regular bases, so I would like to
>>>>>>> know some opinions about it.
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Re: autocorrection on pages?

[B G]

Yes, makes perfect sense, very well written and all, thank you very much.
I've decided that mastering Pages in conjunction with VO is the best
place to start my journey in Mac OS.
All best, Ben


On 5/17/19, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you set spelling to check spelling whilst typing as you type you can get
> audible notifications when a word is miss-spelled. To get the list of
> alternatives and make a choice just position your cursor at the end of the
> word - on the last letter and a list pops up you can then use the arrow keys
> or trackpad to move up and down through the list of choices and hit return
> on the one you want.
>
> Hope this makes sense in terms of what to do
>
>> On 17 May 2019, at 11:55, B G  wrote:
>>
>> Well, goodness me, how is this for coincidence. Only this morning I
>> was wondering if you can select from a list of suggestions as you can
>> on iOS (by flicking up or down). I haven't found an answer yet.
>> Ben.
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/19, Leo Bado  wrote:
>>> ok thanks for your feedback Julie.
>>>
>>> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
>>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>>>
>>>
>>> Leo Bado
>>>
>>> El 16/05/2019 a las 15:18, Julie Rattray escribió:
>>>> I tend to use it as correct as I go which means it offers the list but
>>>> actually I also find the automatically correct works very well -
>>>> sometimes if it is a technical term it gets it wrong but generally it
>>>> is quite good
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 May 2019, at 22:14, Leo Bado >>>> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to ask a question for those of you who are used to type and
>>>>> edit text on pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you find pages sufficiently enough reliable when it comes to
>>>>> correct spelling automatically?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have this option checked in pages preferences, and I am starting to
>>>>> use pages for text-processing on a regular bases, so I would like to
>>>>> know some opinions about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
>>>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
>>>>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
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Re: autocorrection on pages?

[B G]

Well, goodness me, how is this for coincidence. Only this morning I
was wondering if you can select from a list of suggestions as you can
on iOS (by flicking up or down). I haven't found an answer yet.
Ben.


On 5/17/19, Leo Bado  wrote:
> ok thanks for your feedback Julie.
>
> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>
>
> Leo Bado
>
> El 16/05/2019 a las 15:18, Julie Rattray escribió:
>> I tend to use it as correct as I go which means it offers the list but
>> actually I also find the automatically correct works very well -
>> sometimes if it is a technical term it gets it wrong but generally it
>> is quite good
>>
>>> On 16 May 2019, at 22:14, Leo Bado >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to ask a question for those of you who are used to type and
>>> edit text on pages.
>>>
>>> Would you find pages sufficiently enough reliable when it comes to
>>> correct spelling automatically?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have this option checked in pages preferences, and I am starting to
>>> use pages for text-processing on a regular bases, so I would like to
>>> know some opinions about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
>>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>>>
>>>
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Re: Jumping to top and end of table

[B G]

No it was the table in the VoiceOver Quick start tutorial. it seemed
to go all over the place. Shift-VO-Home took you up to row 1 column 1
but Shift-VOEnd was a different, more  adventurous experience, never
knowing quite where you might end up. *smile*
Ben.

On 5/15/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
>
> That combination should work fine.  Is this a web table, or one in Word,
> Pages or a spreadsheet?
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 07:06, B G  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm not sure Shift-VO-Home or -End work in tables for jumping to the
> top or the end. Any ideas what the right key combinations might be?
> This laptop keyboard is not the most comfy design. *smile*
> Ben.
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Jumping to top and end of table

[B G]

Hi,
I'm not sure Shift-VO-Home or -End work in tables for jumping to the
top or the end. Any ideas what the right key combinations might be?
This laptop keyboard is not the most comfy design. *smile*
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Re: Buying a macbook Air - the latest

[B G]

Yes, running VM would be nice but it's not part of my use cases for
this machine.  I will try it and see what happens. Will be reporting
my findings here.
What kind of files software did you have in mind for which you believe
256GB might not be sufficient?
as for a case I have asked a friend - an Apple fanatic - to lend me a
hand to pick a good one on Amazon. He's emailed me a couple of links.
I actually wanted one with the Apple logo on it; tells you how much of
a showoff I am I suppose. *grin*

Now, can you tell me a bit more about this Magic keyboard please? What
makes it so special for VO users?
Thanks
Ben


On 5/9/19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> That sounds like a great machine although my personal concerns of that model
> machine is will the processor handle running windows either in a vm or boot
> camp.
>
> And I like a bit more storage but if your not saving a lot locally then 256
> is great.
>
> As for keyboard,  you can't go passed the apple magic keyboards Bluetooth
> And there is a large number of protective cases for the mac book ranges.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of B G
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Buying a macbook Air - the latest
>
> Hi,
> The latest is a MacBook Air 2018 with 16GB ram, 256GB ssd. I'm going to
> assume it will be powerful enough for my xcode (programming) needs.
> Judging from the responses it'll also be fine for running VM and Windows 10.
>  Can the list think of anything else I should be mindful of? What about the
> type of carry case or sleeve the list favours, external keyboard, trackpad,
> etc.  any last minute advice would be gratefully received.
> Thank you
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Re: Does a mac Mini have to be plugged into a display at all times?

[B G]

Ah thank you! Valuable info, much appreciated.
Ben


On 5/8/19, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> Older mac minis did require a monitor connection, or you could use an
> adapter called the fit headless which emulates a monitor. This is no
> longer required however.
> Original message:
>> Hi,
>> Something else I read a while ago, that for a Mac mini to work well or
>> to work at all it had to be plugged into a monitor which is rather
>> superfluous for most VO users.  I seem to remember also reading about
>> a sort of adaptor, a dongle, which could be used instead of a monitor.
>> Anyway, over to the list.
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Mac OS Manuals

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While I scour the web for books and articles on Mac OS, was wondering
if the list had any good urls and or titles to recommend. I am a total
beginner and therefore not taking anything for granted.

Cheers,
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Buying a macbook Air - the latest

[B G]

Hi,
The latest is a MacBook Air 2018 with 16GB ram, 256GB ssd. I'm going
to assume it will be powerful enough for my xcode (programming) needs.
Judging from the responses it'll also be fine for running VM and
Windows 10.  Can the list think of anything else I should be mindful
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Thank you
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Does a mac Mini have to be plugged into a display at all times?

[B G]

Hi,
Something else I read a while ago, that for a Mac mini to work well or
to work at all it had to be plugged into a monitor which is rather
superfluous for most VO users.  I seem to remember also reading about
a sort of adaptor, a dongle, which could be used instead of a monitor.
Anyway, over to the list.
Ben

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Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!

[B G]

Could you elaborate please?
ben.


On 5/8/19, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> Be careful with narrater and VMWare.  In my configuration VMWare hogs the
> caps lock key. This makes it difficult to use narrater.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>>
>> I’ve been running Windows 10 under VMWare for a few months now, and have
>> not had any trouble with it. The one thing to be sure of when you install
>> is to be sure you go into Settings > Privacy, and make sure VMWare has
>> permission to access resources on your machine. I struggled mightily with
>> this for a time because I initially couldn’t find the setting. I’m using a
>> 2014 Mac mini with 8GB of RAM, and my VM is set to use 4GB of RAM. It’s
>> slow to start up, but once running it does quite nicely, thank you.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Pete De Vasto
>>
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 9:13 AM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Thanks for the info regarding the sound card.
>>> At this point, I’m not sure it’s even worth it. I’ll have to do a little
>>> research and ask some additional questions before even attempting to
>>> install Windows.
>>> Do VMs work ok with the built-in sound card on the Mac Mini?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, also if your wanting to install windows viea bootcamp.
>>>> you will need a class compliant sound card for having speech with
>>>> narrator for the install.
>>>> Apple did some changing of the audiocodic, so using the headphone jack
>>>> for the narrator speech at start up won’t work either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I use jaws most of the time, and nvda or narrator when I get stuck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> On Behalf Of B G
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 8:49 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah now that is interesting. What screen-reader(s) do you have on your
>>>>> Windows?
>>>>> I am incidentally totally new to Mac OS and all my knowledge comes
>>>>> from articles and anecdotes from forums like this..
>>>>> Ben.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/7/19, Tom Moore  wrote:
>>>>>> Windows will run just fine on a mac with 16 gb of ram.
>>>>>> I have an Imac mid 2013 here and I run windows on it every day with
>>>>>> out any
>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>> The big key here for running any type of Vmware based operating system
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> that you'll want to have an ssd in the mac to give the best
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>> Give windows say 3 or 4 gigs and you'll do fine under windows unless
>>>>>> you are
>>>>>> a user who uses lots of memory, then I'd bump it up to say 6 or 8 gigs
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you needed too, but I haven't found that I have needed to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  On
>>>>>> Behalf Of B G
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:19 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worth noting that VMWare Fusion allows you to share the clipboard
>>>>>> between Mac OS and MS Windows - it's like running another piece of
>>>>>> software on top of Mac OS; needless to say that it isn't without its
>>>>>> own set of challenges vis a vis sharing hardware resources and so
>>>>>> forth. Moreover, I'm not sure that even your 16GB ram will be
>>>>>> sufficient for running Windows on VM very smoothly. So you're
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> better off with Bootcamp.
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>&

Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!

[B G]

Ah now that is interesting. What screen-reader(s) do you have on your Windows?
I am incidentally totally new to Mac OS and all my knowledge comes
from articles and anecdotes from forums like this..
Ben.

On 5/7/19, Tom Moore  wrote:
> Windows will run just fine on a mac with 16 gb of ram.
> I have an Imac mid 2013 here and I run windows on it every day with out any
> issues.
> The big key here for running any type of Vmware based operating system is
> that you'll want to have an ssd in the mac to give the best experience.
> Give windows say 3 or 4 gigs and you'll do fine under windows unless you are
> a user who uses lots of memory, then I'd bump it up to say 6 or 8 gigs if
> you needed too, but I haven't found that I have needed to do this.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of B G
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!
>
> Worth noting that VMWare Fusion allows you to share the clipboard
> between Mac OS and MS Windows - it's like running another piece of
> software on top of Mac OS; needless to say that it isn't without its
> own set of challenges vis a vis sharing hardware resources and so
> forth. Moreover, I'm not sure that even your 16GB ram will be
> sufficient for running Windows on VM very smoothly. So you're probably
> better off with Bootcamp.
> Good luck
> Ben
>
>
> On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> It has a I7 processor, 16 gb memory and 500 gb SSD.
>> I will be using Boot Camp. I suppose I could use a VM, but I want a
>> native
>> install of windows.
>> Still working out a few details.
>> Later.
>>
>>
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 10:02 PM, B G  wrote:
>>>
>>> Will you be using VMWare Fusion for running Windows? And, what are
>>> your hardware specs?
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Hello list,
>>>> I just recceived my Mac Mini today and I love it. Got it set up without
>>>> any
>>>> problems what soever.
>>>> In the days to come, I’ll have questions. Mostly concerning installing
>>>> Windows 10. This will probably take place in a few weeks for a project.
>>>> Later.
>>>>
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Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!

[B G]

Worth noting that VMWare Fusion allows you to share the clipboard
between Mac OS and MS Windows - it's like running another piece of
software on top of Mac OS; needless to say that it isn't without its
own set of challenges vis a vis sharing hardware resources and so
forth. Moreover, I'm not sure that even your 16GB ram will be
sufficient for running Windows on VM very smoothly. So you're probably
better off with Bootcamp.
Good luck
Ben


On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hello,
> It has a I7 processor, 16 gb memory and 500 gb SSD.
> I will be using Boot Camp. I suppose I could use a VM, but I want a native
> install of windows.
> Still working out a few details.
> Later.
>
>
>> On May 6, 2019, at 10:02 PM, B G  wrote:
>>
>> Will you be using VMWare Fusion for running Windows? And, what are
>> your hardware specs?
>> Ben
>>
>> On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just recceived my Mac Mini today and I love it. Got it set up without
>>> any
>>> problems what soever.
>>> In the days to come, I’ll have questions. Mostly concerning installing
>>> Windows 10. This will probably take place in a few weeks for a project.
>>> Later.
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Re: New Mac Mini and I love it!

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Will you be using VMWare Fusion for running Windows? And, what are
your hardware specs?
Ben

On 5/7/19, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hello list,
> I just recceived my Mac Mini today and I love it. Got it set up without any
> problems what soever.
> In the days to come, I’ll have questions. Mostly concerning installing
> Windows 10. This will probably take place in a few weeks for a project.
> Later.
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New List member, buying a new Macbook

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Hi there,
Ben here, just joined the list, so go gently on me please. *smile*
I was wondering if the list had any tips on buying a new MacBook. I'm
thinking of finally taking the plunge into the world of iOS and indeed
Mac OS software development. So far the MacBook Air (2018) with 16GB
ram and 128SSD seems the most attractive choice. I have however been
informed that 128gb ssd won't be adequate for xcode and associated
tools on top of the usual load of software and stored data. What does
the list think?
Looking forward to your responses.
Cheers,
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