Re: Voiceover says "verified" repeatedly on YouTube website
it also happens when you enter on any video. thought it originally was a beta thing. On 7/13/23, Doug Lee wrote: > I hear this on Windows as well; this is a Youtube thing I think, which > probably means it's an HTML > live-region or other form of AT notification they added somewhat recently. > Odd thing is, I don't find that > "verified" or "official" always relate to what I'm listening to. Maybe it's > just me. :) > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 08:15:27AM -0400, alia robinson wrote: > yes, and it’s majorly annoying. tabbing away and back usually fixes it. > > Alia > >> On Jul 13, 2023, at 8:13 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve noticed recently as soon as I load YouTube website, Voiceover keeps >> repeating “verified” at leasst 10 times. This behaviour is fairly new. >> Anybody else experiencing this? It happens on Big Sur, and Ventura as >> well. >> >> Andrew > > -- > Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org > "I forgot, because I wanted to forget, except I don't remember > forgetting." --Sarah Alawami > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/20230713133119.fn7bckkgtmxzah2j%40dlee.org. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAL2p2KkVFYWhTzEfXyjqFJ4E%2BaF93XNnw74AM4mbKLKNLXxR2g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Iblink Radio new app constantly crashing
i noticed that when you enter on the email link it provides you with help documentation. i unchecked that box and can't get it back. also that check box was about i o s devices. On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote: You can connect to SAMNet from iBlink Radio if you have a trial or subscription, but you are correct that you can't use the Socializer in its complete form at this time. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iblink Radio new app constantly crashing Hey Jamie, I am assuming since I can't seem to find it anywhere that the Samnet Socializer is not part of the Iblink for Mac either. Thanks, On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote: The functionality of iBlink Radio for the Mac is very similar to that on iOS. For example, you can't use voice chat but you can read forums, etc. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iblink Radio new app constantly crashing I would assume so as I was able to sign up for a free trial to get to other areas of Samnet but since I am not a subscriber and have not played around with all areas of Iblink for the Mac as of yet cannot confirm it On Aug 12, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Does this app have the socializer? On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey Alex, spoke to them earlier today after posting and they were able to replicate where I was having the issue, feel free to send areas where the app is crashing to supp...@serotek.com and they will work on fixing the crash issues.On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: Hey guys, Was thrilled to hear that Iblink radio was finally on the mac, installed it and in playing around with it it constantly crashes when trying to open several different feeds in the podcasts and other areas of the app. I am not being critical of them as I know the headaches they went to getting to the mac just wanted to find out if others are having these issues. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options,
Re: daisy players and mac os 10.9
tried olearia but when i tried to use it, the program only gives me a lot of busy messages unless there's a later version out there. if so, hopefully someone can direct me to it. Trying to use it in 10.9. On Jul 31, 2014, at 3:39 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: olearia works on Mavericks but is basic. There is no way for example to accelerate playback. In the UK the RNIB Talking Book Service whilst formally supporting Daisy has virtually abandoned the format. They no longer provide Daisy Players for Book Subscriber and instead point to the availability of cheaper mp3 players which customers can buy. Since January this year all RNIB Books are now simply structured so that they will now simply play as an mp3 audio Book with a single mp3 file for each chapter or part of a book named sequentially. So if it is Audio output from a Daisy Book you want I think you will find that you can get this from many simple media players like VLC. You can accelerate playback. You can also jump to time and fast forward and rewind. As RNIB and other Daisy Books are essentially collections of mp3 files now you could theoretically use something like Audio Book Builder to play them in iTunes I guess, but I halve never done this. On 31/07/2014 08:00, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote: Hi. I was thinking of audio books in daisy format. thanks Cheers Maria Produced on macbook probubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 30 Jul 2014, at 12:23 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Just open the XML file in safari. On Jul 29, 2014, at 1:27, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: HI. the only one i know of is olearia. I think it's pretty old and stuff but seems to work. Will be watching this thread with interest. Blessings! maria and Joe chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 28 Jul 2014, at 12:55 pm, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey does anyone know of good daisy players for mac os 10.9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
daisy players and mac os 10.9
Hey does anyone know of good daisy players for mac os 10.9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
rss reader replacement
Hey am sending this to the two lists to see if anyone can recommend a good rss app for the mac since rss in mail is no longer possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: rss reader replacement
thanks for the recommendation. On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Newsrack is great. It's worth the price, in my opinion. I believe it's about $19 in the app store. Teresa On Sep 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey am sending this to the two lists to see if anyone can recommend a good rss app for the mac since rss in mail is no longer possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: what scanning software is compadable with the mack?
docuscan costs 299 dollars. On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi anne, thanks so much for the advice i really do appreciate it. however, do abby find reader or doc you scan cost anything and how much would they both be to purchase if i had to get either one or the other?. thanks so much again for your help. sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Reporting One Conversation Items
it also puts your message in the conversation so if you reply to the message then delete the thread, the next time a message comes up for the thread, you'll see your message along with any replies and if there is one new message besides yours, it's wright that way. On Jul 27, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: I have Mail set to Classic view. IN this view, the collapsed disclosure triangle appears next to the from, field. I found the newer view in Mail to be sort of more than I wanted to hear when skimming 150 messages. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 1 Message Conversation?
that's because it also adds your message to the conversation and only says the new message as the conversation. Not the one you added to it. hope this helps On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just upgraded to Mountain Lion yesterday, and love it. But now, mail seems to see 1 message as a conversation, because sometimes it says, 1 message conversation collapsed disclosure triangle when there is obviously only 1 message in the conversation. But sometimes it doesn't do this. Any idea why mail is doing this? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: connecting the braille sense you too to the mack book pro?Hi all,
it should be compatible with the mac. On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: I wanted to know would the newly braille sense you too be conpadible with the mb pro? if you use it as a braille diaply and could one transfer documents to the mb pro successfully?. sincerely, chenelle thank you for your help it mostly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jul 2012, at 17:20, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics Editing audio files on the mac. [2 Updates] Partitioning an external drive under mac os Lion with Voiceover [1 Update] Sharing calendars with Google Calendar and iCal [1 Update] .me and icloud accounts [1 Update] which Remember the Milk dashboard widget is accessible? [1 Update] updating flash? [3 Updates] on my mac mailboxes [1 Update] Source for Macs [6 Updates] Lion, open with, unexpected behavior [2 Updates] ogg to mp3 converter [1 Update] Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics [2 Updates] Problems with Arrow Keys in Fusion [1 Update] Log-in Password on Macbook Pro [3 Updates] Editing audio files on the mac. Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net Jul 16 11:59AM -0500 Hi, Is there a way to edit audio files on the mac with voiceover? I'm looking for some sort of simple program like mp3 direct cut. I don't think that one works on the mac. Any sort of simple free audio editor recommendations would be nice. Thanks, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com Jul 16 05:17PM -0400 Hi, here's the accessible version of audacity. Don't ask me how I found it in the first place. It's really obscure. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1291668/Audacity%201.3.11.zip Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-07-16, at 12:59 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Partitioning an external drive under mac os Lion with Voiceover Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com Jul 16 10:04PM +0100 Dear listers, I thought I'd post my experience of partitioning an external usb drive under mac os Lion in case somebody else needed to do this in the future. I've bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and I wanted to partition it so that it has two different volumes. This is how I accomplished it in Mac OS Lion. I connected my USB drive to my mac. 1. Open Disk Utility (from the finder, shortcut key, command+shift+u), and then start typing disk utility to get there. 2. In the table of all available disks, find the disk you wish to partition. 3. Stop interacting with the table of your disks and move to the right through the available tabs until you've reached partition tab. Press vo+space to select it. 4. Move right to hear partition layout popup button. Here yo you can choose how many partitions you wish to have on your drive. In my case, I chose two partitions. 5. Move to the right. You will encounter a field that Voiceover reports as something like name text field. At this stage this field will be reported as dimmed which means that you cannot do anything with it. 6. Move to the right and yo you will hear scroll area. This is where it gets interesting. Remember, I chose to partition my external drive into two. 7. Interact with the scroll area. You will be able to navigate with vo+arrow keys here, and you will hear: untitled1 plus some info about the value of the default size of the partition and if you move right, you will hear horizontal splitter and then, untitled2 with the value of the default size of the partition. At this point, you can't do anything with these areas. However, in order to be able to name your partitions, you have to do the following steps. 8. While still interacting with the scroll area, place your Voiceover cursor on the first untitled area. If you have a mac that has a trackpad which by default is enabled with Voiceover, first disabled the trackpad commander with vo + rotor left. Voiceover will say trackpad commander off. Then bring your ouse cursor to the Voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. Confirm with vo+f5 that you are on the untitled1 field and then physically click the mouse/trackpad. 9. At this point, Disk Utility got busy for me and I had to force quit it. To avoid this, after you had physically clicked the mouse pad, turn Voiceover off and then on again (don't rush the process), and then stop interacting with the scroll area and move left to the name text field. 10. You will notice, that now Voiceover announces name text field as untitled1 and it is not dimmed so that yo you can enter the name of your volume here. 11. After you are done with this partition, interact with the scroll area again, only this time
itunes and .ogg files
Hey guys am trying to find a way to get iTunes to play .ogg files. Hope there is something out there for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
for lion you need 2gb of ram. if you check the section in the about this mac item, it should tell you how much ram you have. On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: This was in the Apple keynote that Tim Cook gave last week at WWDC. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting other voices for your mac.
well for the person wanting extra voices, you could upgrade to lion and would have them available. On May 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, May McDonald wrote: There's extra voices for Lion? How do I get those? Sorry if I've missed this answer. May and Prince Noah On 2012-05-03, at 8:48 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Helps a lot. Thanks much. On May 3, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Actually, it is possible to get additional voices for Snow Leopard, but unfortunately, they're not free. They're the acapella voices, and are very high quality. You can check them out at the following web site. http://www.assistiveware.com They're a bit pricy, but you can get 30 day trials for whatever voices you're interested in and then buy them after you've seen if they meet your needs. I ended up buying all of the English speaking acapella voices, and use Tracy as my system voice, although I still prefer Alex for Voceover. Good luck, and I hope this helps. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting other voices for your mac. Oh, I see. Thanks. I'm really happy with Alex. I was just curious. On May 3, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The extra voices are only for OS X Lion, unfortunately. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 3:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Getting other voices for your mac. Hi Daniel, Can you get extra voices for your mac? I have the white macbook running snowleopard. If you can get voices, where do you get them from? On May 3, 2012, at 5:11 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, there is a way you can remove the voices. I’m going to paste in instructions. Using Finders great “Go to Folder” feature of Command+Shift+G enter the following path: /System/Library/Speech/Voices/ You’ll see a list of voices, but notice they come in two formats: Voice and VoiceCompact, you can keep VoiceCompact because those are just the short samples, it’s the Voice.SpeechVoice you want to delete to remove the full voice. For a quick example we’ll get rid of Samantha – sorry Samantha, you sound lovely but you take up too much space – so we will be deleting Samantha.SpeechVoice. Select that folder and either drag it to the Trash or hit Command+Delete to place it there automatically. Because the voice files are contained in /System/ you will need to authenticate with the administrator password in order to delete the file, so type that in, then you can empty the Trash. No more Samantha! I hope this helps! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Deleting voices Id like to know this as well On 2012-05-03 7:05 AM, Lisette wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is it possible to delete the many compact voices one doesn't use? Do these compact voices slow the Mac computers down at all? I have downloaded a few of the premium ones but really can't see a use for most of the pre installed voices. I suspect the answer will be no but thought it worth asking. Thanks to all for help on mailbox issues. All sorted now. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
growl and how to install new version
Hey all. i just bought growl 1.33 an for some reason it still shows 1.2 is installed. is there a way to get rid of the older version so the new one can run? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Howdy, everybuddy!
Hey Keith. nice post. Glad to see you on the list. On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Keith Hinton wrote: Hi to all members, new or long-time to Mac Visionaries: I wanted to take a second to intraduce myself in general to the rest of you. Some of you, I've heard on Podcasts, voice wise at least, and I've even talked to some of you throughout the years in several online forms, Skype being the latest method. To start off with, I live in a small town called Prescott, located in the awesome state of Arizona. I'm 24 years old-and in just s few short months, on May 23, I'll be turning 25, so that should be pretty awesome! I've grown up computer technology wise first starting with jAWS for DOS in the second grade, and even what I suspect in the first grade as an Apple two E machine, though i never used any speech technology or screen-readers back then, and always had sighted help. Windows, as years whent on, later became the primary platform, and for specific screen readers like Serotek's System Access that I pay a monthly subscription for, I'll generally use Windows (though more and more often on a VM in VMware fusion,) for that kind of purpose. Finally, as of June 2011 I finally had something I could sel on BlindBargains to a Technology Specialest who wanted this Alva Braille Display I wasn't using, and with the money I earned I was able to pick up the MacBookPro for $1,366 on Amazon. I got my macbOok Pro, 13 intch, Core I7, 2.7GHZ, 4GB RAM, 500GB internal hard-drive, Super DVD drive, with Lion already the default oS as no dVD shipped, back in November, 08, 2011. One of my friends who is a member of this list, was actually around for the unboxing on Skype, a rather fun thing to experience. At first, I thought that maybe I'd use it for a lot of the things I kno some folks have, being a listener of both the MacCessibility roundTablePodcast, and of the ScreenlessSwitchers podcast, just to name a few, and of course a lot of the Mac podcasts that mike has done on BlindCoolTech being some of the things that got my mind finally made up. Now we get into some of the real background stuff that I'm sure you folks will be interested in. I've been a pianest for over 11 years, I first got myf irst little keyboard when I was like 4 or 5. Over the years I got better stuff, until I finally was able with some help from one of my teachers down in tucson, to get what i had most wanted..the yamaha P85, 88 key waited-keys keyboard, with the coolest thing that at the time I couldn't take advantage of, MIDI ports. Finally, just a week or two back, I purchased on recommendations from a new skype friend I've made in south Affrica, The EMU-XMIDI1X1 USB MIDI interface cable, and began to try, and record with the already isntalled iLife11 GarageBand application. I enjoy the quality of the garageBand instruments, but then I quickly found out some things about the program. First, I need a way to export the raw MIDI instructions as a MID (Dot Mid) file, prefered MIDI type one, but in garageband itself after my firend and i did some looking around, we concluded that this is not possible. Sure, you can export stuff to MP3, etc, but you cannot export the actual MIDI data. Also, the ability to edit the MIDI data for mistakes, etc, doesn't seem to be possible, within the GarageBand editor is a Scrol Area that appears to not be accessible entirely to VoiceOver. So, I next began looking around for something else I could use that of course has software instruments (and not cruddy ones, at that.) I had considered logicPro, because I can actually afford that within my extremely tight budget that I have to work with, but found a post from this group that prompted me to subscribe Don't recall the names of the two posters off hand..sorry about that. But anyhow, two people posted to some thread, one poster considering logicProNine, and the other poster a former musician I believe explained that ProTools is far more accessible to VoiceOver, and that Apple must reright LogicPro entirely, or something and to go with ProTools. So I started looking around at ProTools on places like Sweetwater, only to discover that basicly as things stand I'll never be able to save up enough money, not even in a five month basis to afford ProTools, at least not any time soon,and no, my budget is not likely to change in the coming year. At the moment, I'm having to go back and forth between using a free Windows app called QWS (Quick Windows Sequencer), and an old version of CakewalkPro Audio Nine that has loads of accessibility problems, not to mention crappy quality software instruments. I'd like to do what my friend in South Affrica does for a living-that is do backtracks for companies as a living, because he's made plenty of money doing this. I would like to do nothing else-I wouldn't be happy with any other type of job, no matter what it's money amount may be, and I know myself better
Re: Question about Mountain Lion
one thing i do know is some older macs that run lion won't get the mountain lion treatment because of processors. An example of this is my plastic macbook from 2007. On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Well, We won't know the answer to any of those questions for months. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Frankly, all this seems pointless to me. I couldn't care less about the name. What I'm sure we all want to know are the following: 1. Will known issues we've all been reporting be addressed? 2. How stable is the beast actually going to be. 3. I'm sure we can all expect to see a plethora of messages here about the new looks and trouble or lack there of with certain apps. How responsive will they be to those? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: I think they're running out of wild kitties, but Mountain lions are the next logical step, I suppose. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about Mountain Lion Why call it Mountain Lion? Are we to climb a mountain? On 17 Feb 2012, at 06:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Now now, just a second here. You must remember that we were plainly told this was just a glimps. the details always come out eventually. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 16, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. Maybe somebody covered this already, and so maybe I missed something somewhere. I watched the video on the Apple website concerning Mountain Lion. Since VoiceOver is so far not mentioned in these things ever, how do we know what's changed for it? It looks like that the Notification Center is going to be wonderful for us, especially if it works like it does on the iPhone. When I first got my Mac and knew practically nothing, I asked accessibil...@apple.com how I was going to know about VoiceOver changes. The answer I got back was that I could read articles on it and that they would be published with everything else. I am not finding this to be the case. So, how do we find out or do we just wait and see? Regards, Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group.
Re: Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion
any news on the system requirements. hope that you don't need more ram. this machine is already maxed out. On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Ah, I see. Any hint as to accessibility and stability issues? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi folks, Apple has given us a sneak peek at Mountain Lion do out this summer. They have released messages beta. Its basically like iMessage on IOS. M Lion sounds like there going full steam ahead with IOS/Mac osx intergration. Mountain Lion will be adding Messages, Reminders, game center and notifications. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.
actually if you use chrome and go to samobile.net you can use system access's features that way like movies and other things. also safari works good at samobile.net but you can't watch any movies. don't think chatrooms work in chrome though. Chrome support is experimental though so bugs may be found while using that with samobile.net. On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: Hi Mike, How are you? I'm Jennifer Perdue from System Access. Do you remember me? I asked you this before but I had to delete a bunch of mail so I'm not sure if I got a reply. I'm the girl the won the snowflake microphone a few years back. I switched from the PC to the Mac in June and it's been a slow and argues process but I'm learning thanks to this list and a few friends I've met on it. Hope things with you are going well. I don't get on SA anymore because I am not under the impression it will work with the Mac but I could and probably am wrong. Tell everyone like Ricki and so forth that I said hello. I don't have her contact information anymore because my phone ate it. We went to guide dog school together. Write back soon. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Any usb keyboard will work, even a windows keyboard, so you should base it more on what is easiest to type on, in general, any keyboard should work. On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Frank Tom wrote: I didn't get a response to what's wrong with the extended keyboard my friend got, so, I will ask another question. What is the best extended keyboard out there, either wireless or usb, for the blind mac user. I personally like the bluetooth keyboard that came with my five year old I Mac. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make this one any more. He needs something with some heft to it so it gives good, tactile feedback. To help myself, I stick little bumpers on the G and H keys and the F4 and F8 keys to make finding the home row easier. What do you use? Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype Accessibility
first i would like an easier way to start conference calls like 2.7 or 2.8 had and ways to have multiple windows like those versions without having to go back to those versions. On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: I’m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client. Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion’s/issues that you are able to share, it will provide a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Outspoken 9.2 help needed please.
i think vision cue in the states has it. try looking there. They are a dealer for opteleq. On Nov 26, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: It's what ever I'm given sadly. At the mo I have on the floor 3 x powermac 7600/200 machines about to be upgraded in both ram and HD size and type, 1 powermac 9600/300 again having the same treatment, 2x G3 beige mini towers at 300mhz each undergoing an intensive upgrade. 1 x powermac G4 blue and a powermac G4 quicksilver. so there's 2 G4's capable of running OS X 10.4 without any issues. the others will have to run OS 9.2 with a decent browser, email client, etc and outspoken if I can acquire it. As I say, I take on what I can find. whatever's given to me I accept and take on. lew On 26 Nov 2011, at 22:31, Scott Howell wrote: Do you think you could get machines that run Tiger? At least you could then use VoiceOver. I do not recall the minimum specs, but this would be perhaps an option? On Nov 26, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: exactly that. the net is full of dead info. a bit of a pain really lew On 26 Nov 2011, at 21:54, Pete Nalda wrote: I checked out that synaps site this morn. Found a meantion of Outspoken, but not where to buy. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'Day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda/ http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Hi again Louis, In an effort to keep this on topic smiles. You really want new copies,not used ones, as outspoken used serial numbers, and you may run into serious issues trying to install a used copy over and over again. I just did some creative googeling and discovered rather a few trails to those who created outspoken, the parent company referenced in other posts, who had its own assets acquired by optilec in 2005. That company may now be synmaps, since outspoken for windows is listed with them. However the two people who started Berkley systems, Wes Boyd and Joan Blade, are alive well and running one of the largest progressive politic groups in the country moveon.org. I managed to find phone numbers for a few folks, can certainly direct you to some others. It really depends on how direct and fast you want the materials, where you are based, and how solid your operation. It seems to me though that the creative rout may get you what you desire. contact me off list if I can help further. Karen On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: Who would I need to get hold of now regarding outspoken. at one point as I understand it was alva. So I don't know where else to contact to be honest. lew On 26 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Louis, This information may be dated but I understood that the company who licensed outspoken would arrange for a copy if the need was professional as yours seems to be. Have you reached out to them? Also, not sure where you are located, but the donations may be tax deductible if you have created that sort of structure. Karen On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Gigi wrote: Hi Louis Maybe I am off base here but Apple has a recycling program for computers. Have you asked to see if you could get old Macs that way? You would be serving people that would not have the money for new Macs right now unless they get better opportunities. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Mr. L. Alexander turningbyto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I realise this is a long shot here and could do with a little help. My name's Lewis, I'm the main man behind an organisation which has lifted called Free Macs For The Blind. This is a project I decided to launch to help young blind and visually impaired people including students and those who can't afford technology due to lack of support or funding. How it all works is pretty simple. I take on unwanted apple mac systems from companies and individuals who are happy to donate either computers, parts, software or other products. They are then serviced, tested, upgraded and cleaned by myself, the necessary operating systems installed and ready to go at no cost to me or to potential recipients. It's a project I believe in very much and have a support structure in place including sponsors who have kindly donated tools, diagnostic equipment and their services to help out. A part of the work involved requires working with older macs including powermacs before G3 blue and white systems where SCSI drives are in use, etc. So the use of Mac OS 9.2 is going to be an essential for some users. I am kitted out with all the software I need in terms of OS installs, etc with help from some amazing people out there. The downfall to this is the lack of one piece of software which is important. That is of course
Re: Latest Adium Beta is worth a serious look!
bad thing about this version is when either someone sends you a message or comes online, adium comes up and you have to command tab away. this has been the case with this since 1.5b3. hope someone lets them know about it. On Nov 20, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Thanks for telling us about this. Does it solve any of the problems I've been having lately where VO speaks a bunch of gibberish for no discernible reason? I guess I'll find out when I update too it. I just checked for updates yesterday, though, and there wasn't anything. Thanks again for the tip, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest Adium Beta is worth a serious look! Hello everyone. For those of you who are using Adium, the latest beta [1.5 beta 4] is worth a serious look. There are a lot more things labeled. The toolbar has labeled buttons, the area where the chats come in no longer says Unknown, and the contact groups read properly now. If you want to update to the beta versions, make sure you check the option to update to beta versions under the general options in Adium's preferences. Enjoy, Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Direct links for downloading Voices
another place to download them is the speech pane of system preferences under text to speech. On Aug 22, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey Sunshine. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a direct link to download the Nuance voices. In order to download voices, your only option is to go to VO utilities and under the speech utilities go into the pop up menu button thingy that has all your voices and select customize. From there you can select what voices you want, although each voice is fairly big. Then when you hit the Ok button, software update comes up and says if you want to download these voices. Select ok. Unfortunately this is the only way to download them so if you go back to that place you were at you'll have to do that from there. HTH. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?
one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope there is a way to change this. On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: What version of Skype are you running? Context menu don't come up for me nohow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote: I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit easier. On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi, anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype? It's so weird. You now have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites. The only way you can search for contacts via first letter navigation now is if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts table. IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of the source table. With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever favorite you want and interact with it. Do this, and the regular buttons become available. Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish. Find a contact in this table and press return on it. Once you've pressed return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become available. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?
hey thanks. would be nice if it was like how it was in Skype 5.2 and earlier in the 5x versions. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote: If you've selected the second radio button, which gives you your contacts in list view, then you can do VO shift backslash on the status column to sort your contacts by status. Then your online contacts should be at the top. Darcy On 2011-08-10, at 9:05 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope there is a way to change this. On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: What version of Skype are you running? Context menu don't come up for me nohow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote: I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit easier. On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi, anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype? It's so weird. You now have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites. The only way you can search for contacts via first letter navigation now is if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts table. IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of the source table. With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever favorite you want and interact with it. Do this, and the regular buttons become available. Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish. Find a contact in this table and press return on it. Once you've pressed return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become available. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is my Mac able to run Lion?
Hey this can run lion greatly On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:05 AM, Jes Smith wrote: Hi all, This is what I pulled up from my system profiler. I'm not sure if my Mac hardware is capable of running lion. I hope it is, because I already paid for it. I will be disappointed if I have to spend another 1200 bucks on a MacBook Pro. Anyway, if anyone could look at the hardware specs below and let me know something I'd appreciate it. Hardware Overview: Model Name: MacBook Model Identifier: MacBook5,2 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.13 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 3 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version: MB52.0088.B05 SMC Version (system): 1.38f5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
downloads button missing and how to get it back
Hey guys whenever i download something in safari, my downloads button is missing. anyway of getting it back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: downloads button missing and how to get it back
well, the downloads button is in a different place on my machine it's not wright by the google search field like it was before. On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, David Taylor wrote: I just go to Downloads on my dock and get to them from there, and I find it the easiest way to find and open them too. Cheers Dave On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:35, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, maybe your download is too short for you to catch the button. If your downloading a file that finishes in a few seconds, by the time you get to the download button it will be gone. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey guys whenever i download something in safari, my downloads button is missing. anyway of getting it back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where is the restore partition?
i know but the menu allowing you to connect wirelessly to the net isn't accessible. On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Randy Stegall wrote: Yes, you can either via ethernet or wifi. Randy Stegall kc4...@aol.com Sent from my Mac Mini. On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: question is is there a way to connect to the net when using this partition so you could reinstall if you need to? hope someone can reply on this topic. On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, it creates the partition when installing from DVD as well, but be warned, installing from DVD takes considerably longer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition? Hi, do you know if this is the case when installing from a DVD as well? I am thinking of making a DVD for safe keeping once I get Lion put on my other Mac; but before I did that I wanted to get used to Lion first and get everything figured out, which is what I'm doing now. Thanks, Jeffrey On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Oh wow, I forgot about command-r. There is an issue with installing cleanly from that partition, however. If you're connecting to the internet through a Wifi network, the menu to access said network isn't accessible with VoiceOver. Yes, you do need to connect to the internet to install in this way, since the install sends your serial number to apple for validation purposes. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition? Hi, Just found a way to use this partition. Here it is. All you have to do is when starting the Mac, hold CMD+R until it starts booting. Then, you can turn on VO and you can get to the utilities such as Disk Utility. You can even reinstall Lion this way. HTH, Jeffrey On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The recovery partition isn't visible to the OS at all, it's only visible when you hold down the option key when you start the computer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Where is the restore partition? I installed Lion, still have same two partitions I had since I installed windows on bootcamp, I heard people saying Lion will create a restore partition so where is it? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: Lion vo documentation?
it's there now. open the getting started guide and it should work. On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Somebody on another list made reference to the Lion VO docs being up. They referred to a section on the launch pad. I just went to the Apple site and I still see the SL getting started guide, although I also see references to Lion on the general VO page. Has anybody found in depth documentation for Lion and VO yet? Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where is the restore partition?
question is is there a way to connect to the net when using this partition so you could reinstall if you need to? hope someone can reply on this topic. On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, it creates the partition when installing from DVD as well, but be warned, installing from DVD takes considerably longer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition? Hi, do you know if this is the case when installing from a DVD as well? I am thinking of making a DVD for safe keeping once I get Lion put on my other Mac; but before I did that I wanted to get used to Lion first and get everything figured out, which is what I'm doing now. Thanks, Jeffrey On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Oh wow, I forgot about command-r. There is an issue with installing cleanly from that partition, however. If you're connecting to the internet through a Wifi network, the menu to access said network isn't accessible with VoiceOver. Yes, you do need to connect to the internet to install in this way, since the install sends your serial number to apple for validation purposes. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Shockley Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition? Hi, Just found a way to use this partition. Here it is. All you have to do is when starting the Mac, hold CMD+R until it starts booting. Then, you can turn on VO and you can get to the utilities such as Disk Utility. You can even reinstall Lion this way. HTH, Jeffrey On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, The recovery partition isn't visible to the OS at all, it's only visible when you hold down the option key when you start the computer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Where is the restore partition? I installed Lion, still have same two partitions I had since I installed windows on bootcamp, I heard people saying Lion will create a restore partition so where is it? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: Where is the restore partition?
i hear around 600 mb. On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Well, great, so then how do you recover if needed, and is that even accessible? How much space is this partition taking up? Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Where is the restore partition? Hi, The recovery partition isn't visible to the OS at all, it's only visible when you hold down the option key when you start the computer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Where is the restore partition? I installed Lion, still have same two partitions I had since I installed windows on bootcamp, I heard people saying Lion will create a restore partition so where is it? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Where is the restore partition?
i also sent them a message. hope this can be fixed in a minor update. as another test, i entered on the get help online option and tried going to another site, tried vo spacing on the net diagnostics button and nothing happened. On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, Yes, the partition is accessible, however, like I said in a previous post, if you have to connect to the internet via wifi, that's currently inaccessible with VO as of now. I emailed apple accessibility regarding said issue, and am waiting for a response back. So in the meantime, I'd strongly recommend making a DVD of the installer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where is the restore partition? Well, great, so then how do you recover if needed, and is that even accessible? How much space is this partition taking up? Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Where is the restore partition? Hi, The recovery partition isn't visible to the OS at all, it's only visible when you hold down the option key when you start the computer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Georges Zaynoun Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Where is the restore partition? I installed Lion, still have same two partitions I had since I installed windows on bootcamp, I heard people saying Lion will create a restore partition so where is it? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
lion is now on the app store
Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion is now on the app store
still am downloading it. 70 something percent now. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought. On 7/20/11, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion is now on the app store
same here except i can't get the new voices to download. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David Taylor wrote: Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:12, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought. On 7/20/11, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: lion is now on the app store
hey thanks. anyway to get rid of the voices you didn't want or just wanting to just get rid of them? thanks. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Brandon, The voices download from within VoiceOver Utility, on the speech tab. THe way to do this is to find the default voice popup button and select it, then find the customize item and select that. From there, you have a table of checkboxes which you can click to select individual voices. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: same here except i can't get the new voices to download. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David Taylor wrote: Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:12, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought. On 7/20/11, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting more voices for 10.7
question is how do you remove those voices if you want to remove them later. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi Ed. Go to you're VO utility and scroll down to the voices section. Next, find the popup button for the voices. Finally, press that button to open the popup and select the customize option. This will present you with a table that you can interact with. Press VO space to check or uncheck the voices you want. Warning! The voices are quite large. HTH. Matt. On 2011-07-20, at 6:42 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, I was wundering if anyone knew where to find, the place to download the new voices for Lion. Thanks ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: getting more voices for 10.7
i see. but is there a way to uninstall the voices? just thought i would ask. On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi. Uncheck the checkbox in the table. On 2011-07-20, at 6:55 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: question is how do you remove those voices if you want to remove them later. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi Ed. Go to you're VO utility and scroll down to the voices section. Next, find the popup button for the voices. Finally, press that button to open the popup and select the customize option. This will present you with a table that you can interact with. Press VO space to check or uncheck the voices you want. Warning! The voices are quite large. HTH. Matt. On 2011-07-20, at 6:42 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, I was wundering if anyone knew where to find, the place to download the new voices for Lion. Thanks ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: using adium
Hey i use adium on my mac and it does work. there are ways to get the information read to you automaticall but it takes a while to set up but it is accessible. On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hello, all. This is my first post to the group. I've only had my macbook pro for about 6 weeks now, and freely admit that I don't know much about it yet. Over all, I can get it to do what I want most of the time, but I'm writing because I'm having a very frustrating problem. I'm not very much into the social networking thing. I do, in fact, only use twitter on a regular basis on my PC. Well, for several reasons that aren't particularly relevant, I need to try to use some other instant messengers, at least short term. I don't want any of the windows live junk on my main pc, so decided that if I do any instant messaging at all, I'll use the mac. It will be good practice and keep clutter off my main computer. Well, I've installed the newest version of adium, and have hooked it up with msn, facebook, google chat and yahoo messenger. All of my contacts are there, but I can't actually have conversations with them. I was trying to test it with a friend just now, and she doesn't receive my messages, and I can't read her responses. At the moment, I'm just really, really glad Adium was free, because unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, it isn't VO-friendly at all. Still, I know a lot of folks, especialy on twitter swear by it, so clearly, I'm missing something. Are there configuration options I need to change? The menus don't work very well, but I can try to figure them out if I know what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned hard drive chrashes etc and the other is that you would have to download it and I saw something about a 4 GB download. Everybody doesn't have fast uncapped internet. Who knows if it comes out and people start complaining apple will maybe release it on disc. I'm glad that it's only $29 though... Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah, there's a fair amount about VO in the list of new features that Seren forwarded yesterday. Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of fact. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be much trouble to mention new VO features on the site. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
i read somewhere about it being 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Dude, are you serious? I would much rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned hard drive chrashes etc and the other is that you would have to download it and I saw something about a 4 GB download. Everybody doesn't have fast uncapped internet. Who knows if it comes out and people start complaining apple will maybe release it on disc. I'm glad that it's only $29 though... Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah, there's a fair amount about VO in the list of new features that Seren forwarded yesterday. Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of fact. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be much trouble to mention new VO features on the site. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: All the new features in Lion
this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Docuscan pricing?
it's free but the service costs On May 1, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: All: I found Docuscan in the app store; however it says it is free? Am I looking at the wrong app? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
i think after you scan a document you can password protect it. so privacy isn't a concern. On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote: Cheree Heppe here: Where are the privacy concerns in this app's development strategy? For my money, blind people who must read printed documents would do as well to obtain volunteer strangers off the street, because that is how private DocuScan's document reading would be by comparison. In most cases, expensive blindness specific devices and software are not purchased directly by blind consumers because of severe economic suppression of this group. Expensive, new, software and specialized devices trickle down to individual blind consumers through funding by services for the blind or by private or service club expenditures. Others obtain what they require on the resale market. This is at best, slow for the blind consumer and, at its usual outcome, the blind consumer is denied the requested funding assistance. But, for the blindness equipment and software developer, leveraging federal and state funds like they do is kinda like having your very own expense account, as development goes. Don't believe me, just look at Freedom Scientific. To say that the DocuScan Plus app's price isn't that bad in comparison to the bloated pricing of most blindness directed product development would be like saying that the tortures done in the name of the two inquisitions and the Crusades were bad, but our current practice of water boarding prisoners in secret, etc isn't really that bad, by comparison. Why should we have to settle for over priced products that risk our privacy and do half as much, just because we are blind and desperately need a way to read, store and work on the contents of printed documents? I'm talking basic access to reading mail privately and in a timely manner and not even mentioning document processing for competitive and office use. Why not contact those app developers who are keeping costs down and are doing a pretty good job with functionality, and offer them suggestions, ways to make their app fit the actual needs of blind consumers? The very presence of universal accessibility on the Apple platform shouts that we don't have to settle for the usual expense account driven, half done is good enough, oops, we'll fix it later, standard for blindness related equipment and software. If I was unsure about buying the DocuScan Plus app before because of its price, the privacy issue hammered the nail into the coffin. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my iPhone On 29/04/2011, at 10:47 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: Did you also realize that once you purchase it once you can use it on Mac, Windows, on the website, and eventually on iPhone for what you paid for it the one time. So, given that it really is a good deal. People who think this is high ought to see the price for the LVI Student CCTV software and digital camera. That comes in at almost $3,000. That makes DocuScan Plus look very well priced, even if you add the Hover Cam to the price. - Original Message - From: Jenny Wood kc5...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store. Oh wow, I didn't realize the updates would be available at no extra cost. That's certainly something, anyway. When I think about how much money we have invested in access technology over the years, and the dollars spent for upgrades to software packages I have already paid a fortune for, it's enough to make me choke. -- Jenny Wood Phone: (972) 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Funny you say this. How do you determine if the general developer will develop something we all can use. How do you determine if a product would meet your needs as well as the sighted community? In other words our needs may be different then their needs, which is not unusual. I'm not defending the cost etc. just trying to understand. To me if you have a solution that works, great and if not, this might just be the product. My understanding is you get free upgrades for the life of the product, which is not a bad deal either. So, this discussion has a few interesting sides to it. On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Cheree wrote: Cheree Heppe here: It isn't that blind people typically feel that we have to get free applications, services, etc. It's most likely more about the sub-poberty level conditions most blind people are consigned to live under that governs how most blind people see expenditures of this type. I am admitting to having problems imagining why it costs so much for a blindness friendly application like this. I'm going to wait until
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
you could use it with a scanner if there are drivers built in or there are drivers on the manufacturer's website On Apr 29, 2011, at 2:00 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: Hi Kevin I made a quick test this morning with my canon lide 100 and it worked. Now it is intresting to see if it can make something readable out of swedish text. If so I deffently gonna buy this. More simple solution than use vuescan, to abbyy, and to textedit wich works well but very much work to get a document scanned. Regards Tony 2011/4/29, Kevin Reeves li...@kevinreeves.net: Hey folks. SO glad to see this is finally available on the mac. One question comes to mind as I am not as familiar with this product. Does this only work with cameras like the hover cam, or can I use it with a cheap Canoscan 25? Thanks so much. Kevin On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Still cheaper than the other blindness oriented OCR solutions, such as K1000, Open Book, Eye-Pal, etc. Andy P. S. I wonder if they are considering doing something for the iPhone. I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store. Hello Listers. DocuScan is now mac compatible and can be found on the mac app store. Don't get too excited though, unless you have $299.00 to burn on it. Hope this actually benefits someone. the Infuriated Matt Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- --- Tony Bernedal tony.berne...@gmail.com Blog och info om it och teknik för synskadade. www.tbteknik.se -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
it would and if you go to docuscanplus.com you can hear a demo of not only the mac version but the windows version too. and the camera along with the service is a little bit more. On Apr 29, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Be nice if they would toss in the camera for a few dollars more. :) I gather with the camera it would be almost $500. I would like to see a demo on the Mac actually. THis is certainly a better deal than most other products on the market that are geared toward the blind and visually impaired user. Now I may also be wrong, but didn't the $299 also give you access to the web-based product and something on the iOS platform assuming that becomes available? On Apr 29, 2011, at 2:00 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: Hi Kevin I made a quick test this morning with my canon lide 100 and it worked. Now it is intresting to see if it can make something readable out of swedish text. If so I deffently gonna buy this. More simple solution than use vuescan, to abbyy, and to textedit wich works well but very much work to get a document scanned. Regards Tony 2011/4/29, Kevin Reeves li...@kevinreeves.net: Hey folks. SO glad to see this is finally available on the mac. One question comes to mind as I am not as familiar with this product. Does this only work with cameras like the hover cam, or can I use it with a cheap Canoscan 25? Thanks so much. Kevin On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Still cheaper than the other blindness oriented OCR solutions, such as K1000, Open Book, Eye-Pal, etc. Andy P. S. I wonder if they are considering doing something for the iPhone. I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store. Hello Listers. DocuScan is now mac compatible and can be found on the mac app store. Don't get too excited though, unless you have $299.00 to burn on it. Hope this actually benefits someone. the Infuriated Matt Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- --- Tony Bernedal tony.berne...@gmail.com Blog och info om it och teknik för synskadade. www.tbteknik.se -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
even if it doesn't out of th box, some scanner manufacturers have drivers on there websites. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: It works with scanners as well, assuming your scanner works with the mac, unfortnately a lot of scanners don't, but if yours does, you should be good to go. On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:48 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey folks. SO glad to see this is finally available on the mac. One question comes to mind as I am not as familiar with this product. Does this only work with cameras like the hover cam, or can I use it with a cheap Canoscan 25? Thanks so much. Kevin On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Still cheaper than the other blindness oriented OCR solutions, such as K1000, Open Book, Eye-Pal, etc. Andy P. S. I wonder if they are considering doing something for the iPhone. I'm pretty good at drinkin beer. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store. Hello Listers. DocuScan is now mac compatible and can be found on the mac app store. Don't get too excited though, unless you have $299.00 to burn on it. Hope this actually benefits someone. the Infuriated Matt Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hey i know how to add people to a conversation but not to a call is there a way to do that? thanks. am talking about this on the mac. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X Lion
i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X Lion
my macbook has 1gb of ram. got it in 2007. On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Shouldn't have any issue running it. Remember it's a real OS, not winblows so it doesn't require the resources that a baddly written OS like windows does. On Feb 25, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X Lion
i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac OS X Lion
i hope this one doesn't On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I know, but each OS has more ram requirements. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion Not really, you already know they will be more favorable than MS products because of their unix underpinnings. On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Mac OS X Lion
i know On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: If it is, you're screwed. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Mac OS X Lion
i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released
maybe mac updates will be available that way like lion later this year. On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: All the iLife 11 apps separately and the iWork apps separately too. Much cheeper to buy them that way rather than buying them on a DVD. On 2011-01-06, at 9:42 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Anything good in the Store? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released
the app store is accessible On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I got it this morning! Haven't looked at the ap store yet. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released Hello mac users. The mac os 10.6.6 update is released along with the mac app store. I've had a few minutes to play with the app store and it looks to be 100% accessible [as if there was any doubt]. Go get it via software update if you haven't al ready. Matthew campbell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released
glad you like it. On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I looked at the ap store earlier tonight and I love it. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released the app store is accessible On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I got it this morning! Haven't looked at the ap store yet. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released Hello mac users. The mac os 10.6.6 update is released along with the mac app store. I've had a few minutes to play with the app store and it looks to be 100% accessible [as if there was any doubt]. Go get it via software update if you haven't al ready. Matthew campbell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My Experience in the Apple Store and a stick ofmemory to give away
what kind of memory is this? On Dec 29, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi. Hope all of you are having a fun time whilst waiting for the festive season to be over. I went to one of the biggest Apple stores in London here in the UK yesterday and although I'd been to quite a few Apple stores in the US, I'll say that the Apple Stores in the US are so much better! OK there was a lot to look at but unlike the Apple stores in the US that I went to, there were not rows and rows of tables where things were laid out and no where could I find anything with Voice Over already loaded for someone like myself to play with. Anyway, I upgraded my Mac Book Pro's memory to eight Gig yesterday and so I have four gig of memory to give to anyone who wants it! I don't expect any payment but if anyone would find this memory useful, please contact me off list. I still have my mail problem in that my columns do not display as they use to, so this still drives me nuts! Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5.0 Beta and conference calling
that's good is there a way for users to be able to see the skype window like they can with 2.8 or is there no way to change how it is now with 5.0? On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: You can use command-option-left and right arrow to switch conversations. HTH. On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: has anyone figured out how to move from one conversation to another when you have more than one or how to get skype to behave like it does in the release version so conversations appear in a different window? On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to do Skype conferences with the new Skype 5 beta? I've looked everywhere and can't quite figure out how to do it. If anyone has figured this out, please let us know? Thanks, Jeffrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5.0 Beta and conference calling
has anyone figured out how to move from one conversation to another when you have more than one or how to get skype to behave like it does in the release version so conversations appear in a different window? On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to do Skype conferences with the new Skype 5 beta? I've looked everywhere and can't quite figure out how to do it. If anyone has figured this out, please let us know? Thanks, Jeffrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you have a portable mac. On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more than twice to get it speaking once again. Later... On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I have sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't speak until I plug the computer in. On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing return in this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says System UI as in System User Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up too. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: Hello everyone, Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will popup. It says, System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power ..., blah blah blah. Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops working? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...
you can also try open office and see if that works out. On Oct 10, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Sott I just can't agree with you about the level of productivity. Whenever someone says this, I find their scope is very narrow. If you were to base your productivity on one application or on specialized software, perhaps that would be true. The only software I need at work now is Microsoft Office. This is primarily because I do not have iWork and some compatibility issues with WOrd documents still exists. However, for research, e-mail, and managing my calendar are all done on the Mac. So, I am just having a hard time understanding how you can consider the PC (i.e. WIndows) as being more productive when so many examples of productive users exists. Can you further define what you mean? On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Hi John, I was just mentioning on the list the other day, that I frequently find myself needing to boot into windows on my Mac to complete work because the application does not exist or thedoes not work as well as on the PC. I truly feel that the Mac software is making leaps and great strides with every new release, however looking at the two platforms critically I feel the Mac is just not quite there. I am willing to bet that within the next year this will not be the case. The switchers are growing by the day. The other little option not found on the pc is the fact that one can boot into windows or run vm ware fusion to access windows. On their Mac. I am an Adaptive Technology specialist, every month I am getting more and more requests about the Mac. The truth is that many people dislike the fact that one must use many more keys than on the pc, however we are seeing that Apple is addressing this with each subsequent release as well. For example the quick nav and the magic track pad gestures for Voice over. I guess what I am attempting to say is that I feel the answer is not a cut and dried one. There are positives and negatives on both sides of the issue.The bottom line is that looking at a pure productivity stand point the pc would have it hands down right now. This will continue to change with Apples continued commitment to voice over and the adaptive technology that it continues to incorporate in the OS. I hope that this helps. Sincerely, Scott On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Carolyn, thank you, not a soap box, your comments are echoed by many, and I too do not wish to continue to pay for JAWS where not needed. but, firstly, I am not comparing apples and oranges, the single finger navigation of a PC is not thanks to Freedom Scientific nor JAWS etc, its Microsoft and Windows, all there, in the box on day one. Apple have been in this game for just as long as MS and the sighted Mac user can use their Mac in this way. All I want is that level playing field. Many are suggesting Quick Nav, sure this helps, but it is still beyond what the sighted Mac keyboard user needs to do. Again, please let's not turn this into a cost argument, you cannot say that Voice Over is better or fine or acceptable just because it costs nothing, sure there's an argument to be had there, but it's not this one, this conversation I would ask to have nothing to do with cost. its so very easy to turn this into a well Freedom Scientific and other accessibility companies charge so very much, and they do, rightly or wrongly, and therefore Apple is better. this is a conversation about one persons needs on a purely which solution works better, and can I get the Apple approach to work for me, with the benefit and wizdom of the folk on this list. I have already learned something new about Quick Nav, and that is that you can using down and left / right respecively initiate interact mode on / off. this helps a lot. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: 10 October 2010 19:30 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Hi Neil and others: I have an interesting prospective, having worked with a Mac for almost a year, and only made the switch semi-successfully. Further, I'm not a genius, a tech expert, or even a wizzard. I'm just a computer user who is fascinated by what I can achieve with the technology and like to use it for my daily functioning. Having said these things, I've never been one to accomplish tasks with JAWS using one finger. That to me is a big stretch. Unless, of course you are a wizzard:). Secondly, you are comparing Apples with Oranges here. Two totally
Re: VO crashing in iChat message area
not yet. i did originally but haven't since the double interacting issue but may do it today if anyone hasn't done it by now. On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Hello, has anyone reported this to Apple? Nik On 2010-09-25, at 11:13 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This is one of the reasons I switched to adium, no crashes like that with adium. On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Niklas Petersson nikpeters...@me.com Date: September 24, 2010 8:19:09 PM PDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VO crashing in iChat message area Hello, has anyone else encountered issues where VO starts crashing when trying to interact with the HTML area of a text chat. This usually happens after a couple of messages have been sent. I find that if I close the window and the person I am chatting with sends me a chat to trigger a new window it will resume working. Window size? Amount of text or number of entries? Anyone else seeing this. THX Nik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO crashing in iChat message area
i know we all should report this well, the people who use i chat anyway On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: The more people that report it to Apple, the better. On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: not yet. i did originally but haven't since the double interacting issue but may do it today if anyone hasn't done it by now. On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Hello, has anyone reported this to Apple? Nik On 2010-09-25, at 11:13 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This is one of the reasons I switched to adium, no crashes like that with adium. On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Niklas Petersson nikpeters...@me.com Date: September 24, 2010 8:19:09 PM PDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VO crashing in iChat message area Hello, has anyone else encountered issues where VO starts crashing when trying to interact with the HTML area of a text chat. This usually happens after a couple of messages have been sent. I find that if I close the window and the person I am chatting with sends me a chat to trigger a new window it will resume working. Window size? Amount of text or number of entries? Anyone else seeing this. THX Nik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO crashing in iChat message area
accessibil...@apple.com On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I might if I had the address. On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i know we all should report this well, the people who use i chat anyway On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: The more people that report it to Apple, the better. On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: not yet. i did originally but haven't since the double interacting issue but may do it today if anyone hasn't done it by now. On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Hello, has anyone reported this to Apple? Nik On 2010-09-25, at 11:13 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This is one of the reasons I switched to adium, no crashes like that with adium. On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Niklas Petersson nikpeters...@me.com Date: September 24, 2010 8:19:09 PM PDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VO crashing in iChat message area Hello, has anyone else encountered issues where VO starts crashing when trying to interact with the HTML area of a text chat. This usually happens after a couple of messages have been sent. I find that if I close the window and the person I am chatting with sends me a chat to trigger a new window it will resume working. Window size? Amount of text or number of entries? Anyone else seeing this. THX Nik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO crashing in iChat message area
you're welcome On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Thx. On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: accessibil...@apple.com On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I might if I had the address. On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i know we all should report this well, the people who use i chat anyway On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: The more people that report it to Apple, the better. On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: not yet. i did originally but haven't since the double interacting issue but may do it today if anyone hasn't done it by now. On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Hello, has anyone reported this to Apple? Nik On 2010-09-25, at 11:13 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This is one of the reasons I switched to adium, no crashes like that with adium. On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Niklas Petersson nikpeters...@me.com Date: September 24, 2010 8:19:09 PM PDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VO crashing in iChat message area Hello, has anyone else encountered issues where VO starts crashing when trying to interact with the HTML area of a text chat. This usually happens after a couple of messages have been sent. I find that if I close the window and the person I am chatting with sends me a chat to trigger a new window it will resume working. Window size? Amount of text or number of entries? Anyone else seeing this. THX Nik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: VO crashing in iChat message area
i experience this too On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Nik Petersson wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Niklas Petersson nikpeters...@me.com Date: September 24, 2010 8:19:09 PM PDT To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VO crashing in iChat message area Hello, has anyone else encountered issues where VO starts crashing when trying to interact with the HTML area of a text chat. This usually happens after a couple of messages have been sent. I find that if I close the window and the person I am chatting with sends me a chat to trigger a new window it will resume working. Window size? Amount of text or number of entries? Anyone else seeing this. THX Nik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: RS games client not working, help please?
did you try plain arrowing around? it uses the system voice and no vo stuff so it's hard to get used to. On Sep 14, 2010, at 1:37 AM, johns.kary wrote: Hi guys, Can someone give me a hand with the RS games client? I've downloaded the mac client from http://www.x-sight-interactive.net/rsgames/ I've used command O to open the DMG file, and vo space to enter the RS client. When it opens all it says is RS has no windows. I've looked through the website, and googled and cant find any answers. Am I missing something obvious hear? Thanks for any help. Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adium and msn
i can use it and that's because i use the beta of adium 1.4 On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:15 AM, May McDonald wrote: No, it's not down at all because I am on it on my windows computer. I thought that at first. But I can log on, just not on my mac, cry cry. On 2010-09-08, at 6:11 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Guys, When I used to use adium, I had this issue once. I think msn might be having server issues. On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: hello yep i am having exactly the same problem. i can't logg on to msn ither yet i can logg on to face book and aim fine. Ian McNamara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
what kind of a mac are you getting? On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:21 AM, ian mcnamara wrote: hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will help me with it tommorrow. ian mcnamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype users vo suggestions
one suggestion you could tell them is it would be good if we could read other people's status so we don't call people who aren't available or on do not disturb. On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:55 AM, focus wrote: Hi all! I've started to talk to Skype in regard to fix a couple of things for vo users! I do not know how much [ if anything ] will get done. I'm suggesting that they make a better job of labelling buttons! So I thought I would ask you all if you have any other suggestions!! Colin Skype focus_66 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ram requirement for voice over
mine came with 1 gb and it works great. On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't kow the answer to that. mine comes with 4 gig and it seems to be more then enough. S On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi everyone, I am planning on buying a mac. I wanted to know if there is a minimum ram requirement to make sure voice over works smoothly. I know this was the case with windows screen readers last time I purchased a laptop. Thanks for the help. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Prospective Mac User
well, you could type in /clear to clear the text and if you have key echo by characters on, that will interupt it. also if you use keyboard commanders like option t for time, that will interupt the system voice. On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:52 AM, Orin wrote: Hi, What I do with Adium is when someone types a message if I've missed it is interact with the HTML area, hit VO-SHift-End to get to the last message received, and that's that. You don't have to scroll. So, if you know a few VO key shortcuts, messenger is just as good on windows, although I don't like system voice is Snow Leopard. Before, System Voice in regular Leopard 10.5 used to let VO interupt it when it was speaking. When System Voice is speaking now, if you command-tab you'll have to wait now for the System VOice to stop speaking for VO to say the window you just command-tabbed too. Sure, I know that Introvox voices have so that you don't have this problem, but I don't have the money at the moment. On Jun 17, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Chris Moore wrote: You can create keyboard command shortcuts to perform basic tasks, such as launch an application, tell you the current time, tell you how many unread messages you have and I have assigned a toggle between DOM and Group mode for when using Safari. mAC os x has scripting built into the OS which VoiceOver is part of too as VoiceOver is built into the OS its not an add on. Mac OS X has Automator too fa visual way to build many scripts. I must admit I have not used scripts yet as I am fairly new to VoiceOver too. Like you I would prefer a better way of using IM, it is a bit clumsy on the Mac I find. I wrote to Apple accessibility about iChat, I would like iChat to automatically speak out a message as it arrives in the active window so I can easily quickly type a response. Currently I have to move to the edit box and type my message and then navigate to the HTML window to read my replies in a conversation and a lot of the time (Adium) I have to keep scrolling down the entire history to read my last message received. Not sure if there is a better way. I think iChat supports VO +J but as I was about to try it Safari 5 seemed to mess up my iChat experience. I have seen JAWS use MSN Messenger for Windows and it is far superior, if we keep the pressure up with Apple hopefully iChat will work just as well. As for other IM applications, we are best writing to the developers directly. On 17 Jun 2010, at 10:35, Dave Taylor wrote: Here are some specific questions on areas where it appears Jaws is ahead. 1. In messenger programs, is it possible to have a set of keystrokes that will read messages and stay within the history area while being able to type in the edit area at the same time and review that typing? I would want to have a feature set like the alt plus numbers and arrows in Jaws otherwise it would be too slow. This is one of the main reasons I haven't switched to NVDA rather than Jaws. 2. In Skype, I can get to my contacts or conversations list with single keystrokes using ctrl 1 and ctrl 2, and focus most other areas with similar keystrokes. In addition to the feature I just asked for in messenger, how easy is this in Mac? 3. This one is not a Mac problem, but is really important to me. I use several programs that make tasks so easy in Windows that don't work on the Mac. How much does it cost to buy Windows stand alone these days to run those on a Mac? I'm thinking of SpeakOn which makes internet radio, podcasts and all sorts of other audio things much easier and gives you fantastic control over speed etc, Kurzweil 1000 which though expensive automates so much of my mail reading by simply scanning and automatically reading things while I'm doing things, and programs that don't even exist for Mac like the VIP communicator for the Accessible Friends Network and VIP Conduit. It is also possible with Jaws for people to write scripts to do things and share them. Is this possible for VO? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Prospective Mac User What do you feel Freedom Sciencefiction and jaws provide that VO lacks? I'm just curious. Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, cathyk wrote: Hi Kolby, I bought my MacBook Pro about a month ago, and am largely happy. But there are a few important things to know. 1) VO doesn't work with all programs, notably MS Word. I was surprised that such an industry standard requires finding workarounds every time you open a document, which isn't ideal when doing collaborative writing projects or comment on hundreds of papers electronically as I do. Whether this is Apple's or Microsoft's fault, the bottom line
Re: Prospective Mac User
well, the voiceover is built-in and for a pac mate user like you, it is supported by voice over so you could use it as a braille display without installing any drivers. plus, when you lose speech, it restarts the screen reader restarts so you won't have to worry about it. and, if you ever need to, you can install the operating system without sighted assistants and you could even use braille while doing it. hope this helps. On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote: Hello Everyone, I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and windows. I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very stable screen reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, and from what I have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will be purchased in my very near future. I will go to an apple store for some hands on time with a mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences with me I would appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve going from the windows operating system to the mac operating system, but I am ready and willing to learn all that I can. Thank you, Kolby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Growl
yeah go to growl preferences and there should be a stop growl button. be aware that doing this will not stop any events you have set in applications like speaking any uncoming messages. On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi again fellow mac folk, When I'm chatting in skype, every time the other person responds, I get this weird growl system wrap dialog thing. I end up having to command tab back to the chat window to read the response. Is there a way I can either modify growl's behavior, perhaps with a muzzle, or turn it off? Has anyone found a fix for this issue? Thanks again. I appreciate all of you and the awesome information I learn on this list. Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari 5 bug not fixed with new os release
i sent accessibility an email about this last night. On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, I'm sad to report that, at least on my system, the bug that causes crashing when you go to audible.com by typing in the site, and the bug that causes IChat to be unusable are not fixed with the new release of sl. I have to say that I am disappointed. this has to be an easy one for them to reproduce. so many of us have experienced and reported this bug. but no fix was forthcoming in the maintenance release. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is anyone else bothered by safari five
they told me that they would take it with the people for internal review. whatever that means. ad that was last week. On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I am a new mac user, and while I really enjoy my mac, I am slightly concerned about Apple's release of Safari five with apparently little regard to accessibility. I guess I took this somewhat for granted, since Microsoft generally makes sure that the major assistive technology vendors are working with their browsers before release. I am also bothered, though not particularly surprised, by apple's apparent lack of a statement of any kind on this issue. I sent a message to accessibility on the ichat bug, for example, and got no response, not even a canned one. Does this not concern anyone else? I realize Apple is a secretive company, but I would think the least they could do was acknowledge the problem and say they are working on it. For all we know they aren't even working on it. /am I missing something here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ichat bug?
i have no idea. think that ichat has that there by diffault. On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:09 PM, David Hole wrote: Hi guys! I also have this problem. I have at a time enabled the time-stamp, and it seemed to me that this bug happened after I did that. Is that the same for you? And then, how can I disable the time-stamp (to see if that helps)? I don't remember where in iChat I enabled it :( Regards David On 10/06/2010, Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i know will be waiting for it. On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Hopefully, one should come soon . On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote: In addition to having to interact twice, you sometimes get taken back to the start of the chat with no way to get to the end without reading through the entire thing, very annoying, to say the least! Hoping for a fix. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is anyone else bothered by safari five
i know figured i would tell the list too. On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I remember you saying something about that to me off list. On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: they told me that they would take it with the people for internal review. whatever that means. ad that was last week. On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I am a new mac user, and while I really enjoy my mac, I am slightly concerned about Apple's release of Safari five with apparently little regard to accessibility. I guess I took this somewhat for granted, since Microsoft generally makes sure that the major assistive technology vendors are working with their browsers before release. I am also bothered, though not particularly surprised, by apple's apparent lack of a statement of any kind on this issue. I sent a message to accessibility on the ichat bug, for example, and got no response, not even a canned one. Does this not concern anyone else? I realize Apple is a secretive company, but I would think the least they could do was acknowledge the problem and say they are working on it. For all we know they aren't even working on it. /am I missing something here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
i don't know. but it's happened since snow leopard came out and even adium does that. i used to unload and reload voiceover but muting and unmuting works better. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What would cause the problem in the first place though? that is a strange issue. S On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
well, what kind of mac do you have? it depends on the mac. On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: How do you mute and unmute? Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i don't know. but it's happened since snow leopard came out and even adium does that. i used to unload and reload voiceover but muting and unmuting works better. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What would cause the problem in the first place though? that is a strange issue. S On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
yeah except when you have a macbook from 2007. then it's function f3. if you have a desktop, there's a key on the keyboard for muting. On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: If you are using a mac book, it's function f ten I believe. On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: How do you mute and unmute? Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i don't know. but it's happened since snow leopard came out and even adium does that. i used to unload and reload voiceover but muting and unmuting works better. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What would cause the problem in the first place though? that is a strange issue. S On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and when you hit it, voiceover will say muting. for the mbp, it's function f10. On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: I have a mini and a MBP. Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: well, what kind of mac do you have? it depends on the mac. On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: How do you mute and unmute? Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i don't know. but it's happened since snow leopard came out and even adium does that. i used to unload and reload voiceover but muting and unmuting works better. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What would cause the problem in the first place though? that is a strange issue. S On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over stops speeking when i quit skype!!
i know my mistake On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: That goes for the regular mac books too. On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and when you hit it, voiceover will say muting. for the mbp, it's function f10. On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: I have a mini and a MBP. Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: well, what kind of mac do you have? it depends on the mac. On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: How do you mute and unmute? Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i don't know. but it's happened since snow leopard came out and even adium does that. i used to unload and reload voiceover but muting and unmuting works better. On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What would cause the problem in the first place though? that is a strange issue. S On Jun 11, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: just mute and unmute your mac. it works. On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:40 PM, trahern culver wrote: hey alli am running snow leapard with the latest versions of skype and voice over. my problem is this when i quit skype by pressing comand q voice stops speeking and i have to tern it on again does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with this problem would be most welcom kind regards trahern. when i quit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: ichat bug?
they said they would take it to other people who can review it internally whatever that means lol On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I agree. We've written apple about it. On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote: I understand that you have to interact twice. The thing is, this is not how it was before the Safari 5 update, and it is extremely annoying to have to do while chatting... Here's hoping a fix gets pushed out soon. On Jun 7, 10:41 pm, Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since I've updated to the new safari, I am noticing a very strange bug in ichat. Branodn Misch has emailed Accessibility on this issue. Whenever I get an IM on ichat, I have to interact with the message twice. Any thoughts? Will this be fixed soon? Thanks, Chantel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ichat bug?
i know will be waiting for it. On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Hopefully, one should come soon . On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote: In addition to having to interact twice, you sometimes get taken back to the start of the chat with no way to get to the end without reading through the entire thing, very annoying, to say the least! Hoping for a fix. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ichat bug?
just interact with the message twice and it should work. On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote: I'd like to second your issue. So far I haven't been able to find a solution. Very strange bug, and very annoying as well. Would also appreciate any points in the right direction. On Jun 7, 10:41 pm, Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since I've updated to the new safari, I am noticing a very strange bug in ichat. Branodn Misch has emailed Accessibility on this issue. Whenever I get an IM on ichat, I have to interact with the message twice. Any thoughts? Will this be fixed soon? Thanks, Chantel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Very cool voip
can you let the lists know what they say? tried to contact the support staff but got no e-mail address. just something about putting a discussion on the site. On May 31, 2010, at 12:15 AM, louie wrote: I got it to work and sent a e-mail to support about accessibility. On May 30, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: i've tried to use this on the mac. is somewhat accessible but hope there is a way to contact these guys so it can be more accessible on all platforms including mac and iphone/ipad. On May 30, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: I tried to use this on my iPad. It would never sign in to my SIP provider. It sounded cool, but never functioned. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very cool voip Cool! I've asked about this before and no one had heard of it. Another first app I get when I get my iPad. Heard a guy using on Leo LePorte the other day and he sounded really good. This could save me a boatload of money. On May 29, 2010, at 6:20 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, Whistle phone is very cool. You can make computer to land lines calls for free. The web site is: http://whistlephone.com/ You get a phone number so people can call you from there cell or land line. The first window that comes up is completely unaccessible. This is where you type in the number that you want to call. Fortunately if you copy a number to the clip board when you bring up the app just paste and press enter and it will dial your number. You can also use your address book to make calls. Enjoy. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Very cool voip
i've tried to use this on the mac. is somewhat accessible but hope there is a way to contact these guys so it can be more accessible on all platforms including mac and iphone/ipad. On May 30, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: I tried to use this on my iPad. It would never sign in to my SIP provider. It sounded cool, but never functioned. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Very cool voip Cool! I've asked about this before and no one had heard of it. Another first app I get when I get my iPad. Heard a guy using on Leo LePorte the other day and he sounded really good. This could save me a boatload of money. On May 29, 2010, at 6:20 PM, louie wrote: Hi all, Whistle phone is very cool. You can make computer to land lines calls for free. The web site is: http://whistlephone.com/ You get a phone number so people can call you from there cell or land line. The first window that comes up is completely unaccessible. This is where you type in the number that you want to call. Fortunately if you copy a number to the clip board when you bring up the app just paste and press enter and it will dial your number. You can also use your address book to make calls. Enjoy. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
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Re: Restated: Where Is Anna, on the Mac?
samantha is a nuance realspeak voice. On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:41 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Ah! Thank you, Rob. I see that the digital mistress to which I have grown so fond is called by another name? Hmmm!! I wonder where I got the name Samantha from? Perhaps in a dream? Regardless, now that I am aware of her true title, I ask, yet again, how may I hear her sweet voice on my Mac, as I do on my beloved iPhone 3GS? (Smile) Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live Talk Show http://candleshore.com/secrets From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lambert Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac? Are we talking Samantha or Anna? I always thought Samantha was primarily on mobile book players the iPod. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:11 PM, gkearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users. Gregory Kearney Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Ave Victoria Park, WA 6100' AUSTRALIA +61 08 9311 8246 On Apr 21, 9:20 am, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha is not on my Mac. All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex. Where is she? Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I can achieve perfect symmetry in my world. (Smile) Mark** ANNOUNCING THE SECRET LIFE OF MARK MARCUS LIVE CALL-IN TALK SHOW!!! In each episode, join Mark, along with invited guests, as he explores the world in which we live and the world which lives within us. As you listen or participate in a family-friendly, no-holds-barred discussion, you will find yourself being drawn deeper and deeper into the mystery, majesty, and wonder that is The Secret Life of Mark Marcus. You can listen and participate via telephone, an Internet-enabled computer, or Smartphone application. No need to sign up on a website or be required to enter any pin codes. Just join in and let your voice be heard around the world. To listen or participate via phone just dial (724-898-1193 during the show's scheduled time. That's all there is to it. Sign Up To Receive Text-Message Alerts When The Show Is Live!! Can't listen live? No problem, download/listen to past episodes on demand, at your convenience. For more information including an audio PROMO for the next scheduled episode, show times, the ability to listen or participate via computer and more, go to:http://candleshore.com/secrets Let's Make A Joyful Noise, Together!!! Express yourself completely, then keep quiet. He who stands on tiptoe doesn't stand firm. She who rushes ahead doesn't go far. He who tries to shine dims his own light. She who defines herself can't know who she really is. He who has power over others can't empower himself. She who clings to her work will create nothing that endures. (Lao Tzu) For infinite knowledge, go to: candleshoreblog.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: Repairing permissions, should I close all apps?
No it isn't. On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Lynn Schneider wrote: Hi everyone. If you are having problems with your system and you want to repair permissions to try and fix them, is it necessary to close all apps first? I noticed that last time I repaired permissions, it did fix a bad Safari problem, but when I looked at the log, it showed that certain files were not able to be opened or something like that. I'm going to try repairing permissions again just as a routine maintenance thing, but this time maybe I would turn Voiceover off first? I just wanted to know what you all thought. I don't exactly understand what repairing permissions does, but I noticed that when I had to force quit Safari because it was acting up on several occasions, I repaired permissions and it made Safari like new again, so it does indeed work sometimes. I crashed the new iTunes already this morning, so thought I'd repair permissions just to make sure things were on the right track for this new version. Thanks in advance for any insights. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A call to action!
actually, knfb reading technologies will be coming out with a reading program called blio and it will work on a lot of devices and a few publishers have partnered with them and i hope more will follow. On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Jess wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. Nice idea, but more and more books are being converted to E Text, and with apps like the kindle, you pay the same price you would pay for a paperback in a physical book store. My point is, when paperbacks and hardbacks are no more, what will we do to have access to E Books? The time is now, folks. If there was ever a time to stand up and demand our rights to have access to the same content as our sighted friends, it is now. Not two months from now, not two years from now, not two decades. The time is now. On Jan 7, 2001, at 5:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. I use my scanner constantly and hate wasting time on scanning them, but if you fly rc planes like i do and wanna be good thaht is the way to go, cause i simply can not get them as ebooks. sandi On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Jess wrote: First, a question. How many people like to read books? I know I do. How many people were overjoyed that entire text books were going to be put online? I was. However, a lot of EBooks cannot be read by any screen reader we have today. Why? Simply put, the text of the book is contained within an OCR image, and there is a special reader required to read them. These are not your standard PDF files, and the books are protected by DRM, so there is no way to extract the contents into programs like text edit. As a book worm, I tried out the Kindle app for the IPhone, and was delighted to find that a book that I wanted to read was available on the Kindle store. However, my joy turned to bitter disappointment when I realized that while I could navigate the book's table of contents, cover, and chapters to an extent, the text was completely inaccessible. Furthermore, my text books for my classes were not usable. Ladies and gentlemen, I fear that unless we as blind consumers stand up, and demand that these publishers put their text books into standard native file formats, such as pdf or doc, we will lose a lot of access to books, and our chances to succeed at college will be severely diminished. So, anyone have any thoughts of what to do? I thought about starting a petition to ask Amazon to require their publishers to make their books usable, but figured that I would be a laughing stock for doing so, as most publishers probably wouldn't have the time to read, much less consider what I was asking for. My point is, as long as E texts get more and more graphical, our chances to read will be greatly impaired, and as more and more books become exclusively online, we will lose access to the latest editions of books altogether. Thoughts, anyone? You may also skype me at pianomagic88 Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A call to action!
i've heard that they will make a mac version available will let the list know when it's out. will come with a lot of free titles. On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Will this work on the mac platform? On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: actually, knfb reading technologies will be coming out with a reading program called blio and it will work on a lot of devices and a few publishers have partnered with them and i hope more will follow. On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Jess wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. Nice idea, but more and more books are being converted to E Text, and with apps like the kindle, you pay the same price you would pay for a paperback in a physical book store. My point is, when paperbacks and hardbacks are no more, what will we do to have access to E Books? The time is now, folks. If there was ever a time to stand up and demand our rights to have access to the same content as our sighted friends, it is now. Not two months from now, not two years from now, not two decades. The time is now. On Jan 7, 2001, at 5:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. I use my scanner constantly and hate wasting time on scanning them, but if you fly rc planes like i do and wanna be good thaht is the way to go, cause i simply can not get them as ebooks. sandi On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Jess wrote: First, a question. How many people like to read books? I know I do. How many people were overjoyed that entire text books were going to be put online? I was. However, a lot of EBooks cannot be read by any screen reader we have today. Why? Simply put, the text of the book is contained within an OCR image, and there is a special reader required to read them. These are not your standard PDF files, and the books are protected by DRM, so there is no way to extract the contents into programs like text edit. As a book worm, I tried out the Kindle app for the IPhone, and was delighted to find that a book that I wanted to read was available on the Kindle store. However, my joy turned to bitter disappointment when I realized that while I could navigate the book's table of contents, cover, and chapters to an extent, the text was completely inaccessible. Furthermore, my text books for my classes were not usable. Ladies and gentlemen, I fear that unless we as blind consumers stand up, and demand that these publishers put their text books into standard native file formats, such as pdf or doc, we will lose a lot of access to books, and our chances to succeed at college will be severely diminished. So, anyone have any thoughts of what to do? I thought about starting a petition to ask Amazon to require their publishers to make their books usable, but figured that I would be a laughing stock for doing so, as most publishers probably wouldn't have the time to read, much less consider what I was asking for. My point is, as long as E texts get more and more graphical, our chances to read will be greatly impaired, and as more and more books become exclusively online, we will lose access to the latest editions of books altogether. Thoughts, anyone? You may also skype me at pianomagic88 Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: A call to action!
the ibook and ibook store are only for the ipad wich isn't out yet. there may/could be a version for the mac. but i haven't heard anything yet. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Cameron wrote: Hi. On the mac side, keep in mind that we've got I book and the IBook store as a possible solution for literature access. Although, not sure on the accessibility front as I haven't had any hands on experience with it yet. If anybody has, then please post your findings. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A call to action! Will this work on the mac platform? On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: actually, knfb reading technologies will be coming out with a reading program called blio and it will work on a lot of devices and a few publishers have partnered with them and i hope more will follow. On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Jess wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. Nice idea, but more and more books are being converted to E Text, and with apps like the kindle, you pay the same price you would pay for a paperback in a physical book store. My point is, when paperbacks and hardbacks are no more, what will we do to have access to E Books? The time is now, folks. If there was ever a time to stand up and demand our rights to have access to the same content as our sighted friends, it is now. Not two months from now, not two years from now, not two decades. The time is now. On Jan 7, 2001, at 5:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote: use a scanner if you ***really*** wanna read it. I use my scanner constantly and hate wasting time on scanning them, but if you fly rc planes like i do and wanna be good thaht is the way to go, cause i simply can not get them as ebooks. sandi On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Jess wrote: First, a question. How many people like to read books? I know I do. How many people were overjoyed that entire text books were going to be put online? I was. However, a lot of EBooks cannot be read by any screen reader we have today. Why? Simply put, the text of the book is contained within an OCR image, and there is a special reader required to read them. These are not your standard PDF files, and the books are protected by DRM, so there is no way to extract the contents into programs like text edit. As a book worm, I tried out the Kindle app for the IPhone, and was delighted to find that a book that I wanted to read was available on the Kindle store. However, my joy turned to bitter disappointment when I realized that while I could navigate the book's table of contents, cover, and chapters to an extent, the text was completely inaccessible. Furthermore, my text books for my classes were not usable. Ladies and gentlemen, I fear that unless we as blind consumers stand up, and demand that these publishers put their text books into standard native file formats, such as pdf or doc, we will lose a lot of access to books, and our chances to succeed at college will be severely diminished. So, anyone have any thoughts of what to do? I thought about starting a petition to ask Amazon to require their publishers to make their books usable, but figured that I would be a laughing stock for doing so, as most publishers probably wouldn't have the time to read, much less consider what I was asking for. My point is, as long as E texts get more and more graphical, our chances to read will be greatly impaired, and as more and more books become exclusively online, we will lose access to the latest editions of books altogether. Thoughts, anyone? You may also skype me at pianomagic88 Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: intro
well, one thing you could do is put a cd in the drive. may not be the best way but if your mac is on, the cd will go in otherwise it won't. to eject a cd, hit the key to the wright of the f12 key and hold that down untill the cd comes out. On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn wrote: Hi mac family: I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as I write, I'm cheating). I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not to ask too many silly questions. In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? TIA Carolyn Haas CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple tablet
we already have that in some ways with the track pad. On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: If apple are going to release a tablet, I'm sure it's a Mac book Pro Touch. We have Iphones and Ipod touches which is pdas, and the only thing we need is a Macbook Pro with a touch screen. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jan 20, 2010 kl. 11:54 PM skrev Daniel Rowe: Well said, Bryan Dannie \ On 20 Jan 2010, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: Well, William, sighted people like larger screens. A tablet can include a larger battery, faster processor, and more storage. A big touch screen makes apps possible that don't work well on small screens, such as apps that let you draw with your finger, highlight passages in books with your finger, and complex apps that need to display more than just a few little icons at a time. A tablet can be thinner and lighter than a laptop, since there is no need for pieces like a keyboard, track pad, or the palm rest areas that are part of a clamshell laptop design. In short, working a touch device like the IPhone is easier for most sighted people to learn than even a mouse-driven computer interface, but an IPhone or IPod Touch is too small and under-powered to replace a computer for many tasks. So the tablet will be easy to use like an IPhone, but provide the computing power that the IPhone lacks. If you type a lot, then you'll probably want an external keyboard. Most of the time, though, people don't type much more than short fragments, and on-screen keyboards are fine for that. Plus, keep in mind that the wants and preferences of sighted people don't necessarily line up with what a blind person considers when deciding on the merits of a computing device. A tablet may or may not be a good way for a blind person to compute. I think that many sighted people will like it, though. It wasn't very long ago when most blind people would quickly dismiss any idea that a blind person might prefer using any device with a touch screen interface. Certainly, we all don't prefer the IPhone, but many people use it just fine. Who knows what using the tablet will be like. I'll wait until I've used one before drawing my conclusions. I'm sure that it will be fascinating, even if I end up not choosing to routinely use it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apple tablet Maybe the tablet will be more like Apple's version of a netbook. Yes, you can do a lot on an Iphone, but I believe it has some limitations such as only being able to run one program at a time. That's OK for a phone, but maybe not for a netbook type device. On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:28 PM, william lomas wrote: hi all I heard apple are going to release an apple tablet. what is the point of this? one can buy an ipod touch and or iphone and use safari, email, have an ipod, play games, have business applications etc, so is there really a need for a tablet device? Would be interested to read constructive ideas as to why a tablet would be needed Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: apple tablet
i know bot wether you use a track pad or touch screen voiceover has the same commands for both. On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Cameron wrote: The track pad is not a touch screen. They are two different things. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apple tablet we already have that in some ways with the track pad. On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: If apple are going to release a tablet, I'm sure it's a Mac book Pro Touch. We have Iphones and Ipod touches which is pdas, and the only thing we need is a Macbook Pro with a touch screen. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jan 20, 2010 kl. 11:54 PM skrev Daniel Rowe: Well said, Bryan Dannie \ On 20 Jan 2010, at 22:16, Bryan Smart wrote: Well, William, sighted people like larger screens. A tablet can include a larger battery, faster processor, and more storage. A big touch screen makes apps possible that don't work well on small screens, such as apps that let you draw with your finger, highlight passages in books with your finger, and complex apps that need to display more than just a few little icons at a time. A tablet can be thinner and lighter than a laptop, since there is no need for pieces like a keyboard, track pad, or the palm rest areas that are part of a clamshell laptop design. In short, working a touch device like the IPhone is easier for most sighted people to learn than even a mouse-driven computer interface, but an IPhone or IPod Touch is too small and under-powered to replace a computer for many tasks. So the tablet will be easy to use like an IPhone, but provide the computing power that the IPhone lacks. If you type a lot, then you'll probably want an external keyboard. Most of the time, though, people don't type much more than short fragments, and on-screen keyboards are fine for that. Plus, keep in mind that the wants and preferences of sighted people don't necessarily line up with what a blind person considers when deciding on the merits of a computing device. A tablet may or may not be a good way for a blind person to compute. I think that many sighted people will like it, though. It wasn't very long ago when most blind people would quickly dismiss any idea that a blind person might prefer using any device with a touch screen interface. Certainly, we all don't prefer the IPhone, but many people use it just fine. Who knows what using the tablet will be like. I'll wait until I've used one before drawing my conclusions. I'm sure that it will be fascinating, even if I end up not choosing to routinely use it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: apple tablet Maybe the tablet will be more like Apple's version of a netbook. Yes, you can do a lot on an Iphone, but I believe it has some limitations such as only being able to run one program at a time. That's OK for a phone, but maybe not for a netbook type device. On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:28 PM, william lomas wrote: hi all I heard apple are going to release an apple tablet. what is the point of this? one can buy an ipod touch and or iphone and use safari, email, have an ipod, play games, have business applications etc, so is there really a need for a tablet device? Would be interested to read constructive ideas as to why a tablet would be needed Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group
rfbd files
Hey all. i know someone posted a while back a tool for opening files with an rfbd extension. can someone repost that or a link to that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
