Re: VMware's Fusion now free for personal use!

[Kelly Ford]

VMWare work station is now free for personal use as is the Mac Fusion product. 
This on Windows is the full work station product, not the restricted Player.
In my experience, if you didn’t make changes to your VMWare account as of I 
think May 16, you are better off making a new account. I know I received email 
saying I had to take action or my VMWare account would stop working.



> On May 26, 2024, at 4:25 PM, Doug Lee  wrote:
> 
> I believe VMware Player for Windows is free but has limitations. VMware 
> Workstation for Windows is not free.
> This discussion started because VMware Fusion for Mac is now free with 
> limitations, like VMware Player for
> Windows, if I understood everything correctly.
> 
> On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 10:41:20PM +0200, Nebojsa Tasic wrote:
> Is VMWare Workstation accessible? Is it for free?
> 
> 
> On 5/26/2024 3:25 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
>> Interesting that they wanted action so fast, and also that I did not receive 
>> any such email as a VMWare Workstation
>> user. I actually opened my VMware account by purchasing Fusion many years 
>> ago. Though the website article describing
>> this move to subscription models does not mention Workstation, I wonder if 
>> this will eventually affect me also.
>> 
>> On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 07:44:41AM -0400, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> wrote:
>> Yes, Broadcom bought VMware. They sent an email in April requiring
>> existing accounts to take action by early May.
>> 
>> I simply registered anew. The form is a bit fussy, but it does work.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes:
>>>Did Broad.com take over VMware? If so, did they keep user accounts?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
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>>> On 5/25/2024 11:04 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Dear All:
 
 Broadcom has recently announced that personal use of VMware Fusion will
 henceforth be free of charge. The instructions for getting a free copy
 seem a bit contorted, but they were never all that easy from VMware easy
 in my experience!
 
 The following link details how to get a copy for personal use and also
 points to the announcement from Broadcom:
 
 https://www.mikeroysoft.com/post/download-fusion-ws/
 
 I plan to get Fusion on my laptop in the next week or so, so I'll follow
 up here with any observations based on my experience.
 
 Best,
 Janina
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Re: VMware's Fusion now free for personal use!

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

Assuming you have created an account, I believe this link will take you to the 
Fusion Pro for Personal use.

https://support.broadcom.com/group/ecx/productfiles?subFamily=VMware%20Fusion=VMware%20Fusion%2013%20Pro%20for%20Personal%20Use=13.5.2==520445=EN

Please note, the first time I downloaded this, I had to use a button that said 
additional screening required and then provide my address and agree I wouldn’t 
use the software for such tasks as weapons creation or export it to restricted 
countries. I was returned to the form and the button was then a download button.

Kelly

> On May 25, 2024, at 2:43 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Marlene:
> 
> I posted because we've had extensive discussions in recent months about
> VMware Fusion (as well as its competitors from Parallels and UTM) on
> this list. I believe there are people on list for whom this will be
> welcome news.
> 
> I don't mean to offend, but if you don't know, you're most likely not
> interested.
> 
> A simple answer that probably doesn't explain enough is that it provides
> a virtualized environment into which you can install a second operating
> system, or even a different version of the host OS. It's a way to have
> both Mac and Windows on just one machine.
> 
> Think of it as a box inside the big box that is your MacOS environment.
> The box in the box might then have Windows, or Linux, or an older
> version of MacOS--because that's what you, the user need.
> 
> Marlene Kramer writes:
>> I am embarrassed to say I do not know what VMware fusion does. Can someone 
>> describe for me what it is used for?
>> Thank you. Marlene
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2024, at 1:04???PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ???Dear All:
>>> 
>>> Broadcom has recently announced that personal use of VMware Fusion will
>>> henceforth be free of charge. The instructions for getting a free copy
>>> seem a bit contorted, but they were never all that easy from VMware easy
>>> in my experience!
>>> 
>>> The following link details how to get a copy for personal use and also
>>> points to the announcement from Broadcom:
>>> 
>>> https://www.mikeroysoft.com/post/download-fusion-ws/
>>> 
>>> I plan to get Fusion on my laptop in the next week or so, so I'll follow
>>> up here with any observations based on my experience.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Janina
>>> 
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Re: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?

[Kelly Ford]

Donna,

The Mac software is probably a bit easier unless you have experience with the 
JAWS touch cursor. That said, it depends I guess what you want to do. You don’t 
have to use the software to use the keyboard to be clear.

You can also switch the function keys to be function keys and their 
alternatives to require holding down the FN key by pressing and holding 
FN+escape for a few seconds on each device where you want it to behave this 
way. I’m fairly certain I had to do this on each device where I connect.

All this said, I don’t have the software installed at all on two of the three 
devices where I use this keyboard.

Kelly



> On May 12, 2024, at 11:21 PM, 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I’d say Mac, windows is very complexed.
>> Kliph Sr
>> Sent from my Mobile Office
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>> On May 12, 2024, at 9:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kelly,
>> 
>> I don’t mind doing that, but I’m pretty limited for time.  Which of the 
>> two—Windows or Mac—would be easiest to get up and running with?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2024, at 9:04 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For what is worth, I have this keyboard and find it to be excellent. With 
>>> respect to the app on both the Mac and Windows, and my experience while the 
>>> app would fail pretty much any accessibility standard, I have found a way 
>>> to use it with both JAWS and VoiceOver. It requires a lot of use of the 
>>> JAWS touch cursor and VoiceOver commands to activate different items and it 
>>> is far from efficient. In addition, you have to get familiar with a couple 
>>> of nameless buttons to recall which one does what task. I’m by no means 
>>> suggesting I would consider the app usable, unless you are willing to go 
>>> through all of these hoops.
>>> 
>>> Typing on the device for me is excellent and aside from checking battery 
>>> status I don’t use the app regularly.
>>> 
>>> From: 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 8:54 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?
>>>  
>>>> Windows does have an app, and yes it is not accessible on the Mac, I had 
>>>> to get sited help. It’s nice though, cause you can set up keys to open up 
>>>> folders or do keyboard commands.
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>>>>> On May 12, 2024, at 6:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Mac does have one, but it sounds like Michael’s experience is that it 
>>>>> isn’t accessible either.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2024, at 6:41 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would love to use the app but have not found it to be accessible. I’m 
>>>>>> not even sure if the Mac has one. 
>>>>>> But it is not accessible on Windows.
>>>>>> Merv
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 12, 2024, at 7:35 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mervin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you don’t use the app at all?  I ask because it looks like the only 
>>>>>>> way to disable backlighting on the keyboard is in the Logitech app, and 
>>>>>>> it looks like doing that significantly extends battery life.  That 
>>>>>>> would be really convenient for me since I’ll be traveling.
>>>>>

Re: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?

[Kelly Ford]

For what is worth, I have this keyboard and find it to be excellent. With 
respect to the app on both the Mac and Windows, and my experience while the app 
would fail pretty much any accessibility standard, I have found a way to use it 
with both JAWS and VoiceOver. It requires a lot of use of the JAWS touch cursor 
and VoiceOver commands to activate different items and it is far from 
efficient. In addition, you have to get familiar with a couple of nameless 
buttons to recall which one does what task. I’m by no means suggesting I would 
consider the app usable, unless you are willing to go through all of these 
hoops.

Typing on the device for me is excellent and aside from checking battery status 
I don’t use the app regularly.


From: 'Kliph Miller Sr' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 8:54 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Anyone using a Logitech MX keyboard for Mac?

Windows does have an app, and yes it is not accessible on the Mac, I had to get 
sited help. It’s nice though, cause you can set up keys to open up folders or 
do keyboard commands.

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On May 12, 2024, at 6:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

The Mac does have one, but it sounds like Michael’s experience is that it isn’t 
accessible either.
Donna

On May 12, 2024, at 6:41 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I would love to use the app but have not found it to be accessible. I’m not 
even sure if the Mac has one.
But it is not accessible on Windows.
Merv


On May 12, 2024, at 7:35 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Mervin,

So you don’t use the app at all?  I ask because it looks like the only way to 
disable backlighting on the keyboard is in the Logitech app, and it looks like 
doing that significantly extends battery life.  That would be really convenient 
for me since I’ll be traveling.
Cheers,
Donna


On May 12, 2024, at 6:21 PM, Mervin Keck III  wrote:

Logitech sells A Mac only version of the MX keyboard. If this is the one you 
have then you have the one I am currently using. And it is totally accessible. 
In fact I like it better than the one I am using on my windows 11 Pro machine 
which is for both Mac and windows. When using it on windows 11 Pro there are a 
couple of keys that do nothing. And windows keeps trying to install a Logitech 
app that is 0% accessible. And the only way I know it is even trying to install 
it is because my 32GB i7 Carbon X1 Extreme starts revving up like it is ready 
to take off on a runway.
The Mac version gives me no issues and does not try to install anything. And 
works great. I use the Mac Only Logitech MX on my M1 MacBook Pro but since it 
allows me to connect up to 3 devices I also have my iPhone 14 Pro Max paired 
with it as well. It works great with my iPhone as well.
Merv


On May 12, 2024, at 7:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

I just bought one of these keyboards to take to Europe in lieu of my Mac.  
Anyone else using one?  One thing I’m wondering about is the Logi Options app.  
From what I can find, it’s for Mac only.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Second, 
if you’ve installed it on a Mac, how accessible is it?
TIA,
Donna

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Windows Insider and VMWare Fusion

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

There is always that next wrinkle with this sort of stuff I suppose. As I think 
everyone knows, until recently VMWare fFusion wasn’t working right on silicon 
Macs and VMs would shut down immediately.

The most recent updates, at least for betas, of the Mac OS resolved that issue 
so now I can install and run a Windows 11 VM using VMWare Fusion.

The initial VM downloads an ISO for ARM from Microsoft and works.

Now though, when I try and join the Windows Insider program on the machine I’m 
told the PC doesn’t meet the hardware requirements. The failing item is the 
processor.

Interestingly, with Parallels, which starts with the equivalent ISO, I’ve had 
no trouble creating the VM and also joining the Insider program.

The processor itself between the two VMs ends up showing differently inside of 
Windows. They are configured the same in the two VMs in terms of what resources 
the VMs are using.

Has anyone else hit this and found a solution?


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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

[Kelly Ford]

Well,

I am now running a VMWare VM on my M1 Mac. I have to use VOCR to get through 
setup and then add VMWare tools.  Only then did I get Narrator sound.

I’m not entirely sure why because I did get the windows startup sound after 
going through the first steps of OS install where you enter a product key and 
such. But I didn’t have Narrator speech.

Kelly


> On Feb 10, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. 
> VMware virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not 
> getting any sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install
> 
> I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Hi!
>> Vocr is very very tedious.
>> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
>> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
>> windows.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very 
>>> tedious and definitely would prefer to avoid that.
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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

For what it is worth, my Mac updated to the latest developer beta today. VMware 
virtual machines do not shutdown immediately any longer but I’m not getting any 
sound from a VM to use Narrator during OS install

I am trying to get through it with VOCR so we will see.



> On Feb 9, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hi!
> Vocr is very very tedious.
> So I rather not use any virtual machine.
> I will try to find a refurbished laptop that I can install linux onto or 
> windows.
> Bless.
> /A
>> 8 feb. 2024 kl. 03:02 skrev 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>> How do you find Parallels? Are you all right using VOCR? I find it very 
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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Have you noticed any difference in the audio quality of the units? In short, 
does the $50 extra get you better audio quality or are you paying for other 
technology and the $130 has equivalent audio sound.

Kelly


> On Feb 7, 2024, at 8:54 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone conducting
> Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.
> 
> I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using the
> Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are using
> a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.
> 
> I think they are absolutely amazing.
> 
> What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock app
> for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature that I
> absolutely love.
> 
> The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.
> 
> In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days
> later, I purchased the Open Fit model.  
> 
> With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from which
> to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.
> 
> The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.
> 
> There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit
> model.
> 1.
> The Open Run Pro is bone conduction.
> 
> 2.
> The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct the
> sound.
> 
> 3.
> Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both
> ears.
> 
> 4.
> Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between
> Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two,
> devices, simultaneously.
> 
> You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me,
> just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Fwd: [Tech-VI] Microsoft Copilot app arrives on iOS, bringing free ChatGPT-4 to iPhone and iPad

[Kelly Ford]

Nice,

This runs on the silicon-based Macs as well.

https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/12/30/microsoft-copilot-app-arrives-on-ios-bringing-free-chatgpt-4-to-iphone-and-ipad/


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> From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" 
> Subject: [Tech-VI] Microsoft Copilot app arrives on iOS, bringing free 
> ChatGPT-4 to iPhone and iPad
> Date: December 29, 2023 at 5:09:07 PM CST
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> Original Source 
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> Microsoft Copilot app arrives on iOS, bringing free ChatGPT-4 to iPhone and 
> iPad
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>  
> 
> Microsoft has released its Copilot app for iOS devices, just two days after I 
> reported exclusively that the iOS version was almost ready 
> .
>  Now, iPhone and iPad users can download it from the Apple App Store. Copilot 
> isn’t just another name for Bing Chat; it brings some cool new things to the 
> table.
> 
> Microsoft Copilot app is available via Apple’s App Store 
> , 
> and the tech giant clarified that the AI app is optimized for iPad. In our 
> tests, we also noticed that Copilot app offers better experience than the 
> dedicated ChatGPT app for iPad.
> 
> While Bing integrates search, rewards, and chat functionalities, Copilot 
> streamlines its focus on an advanced chat interface, incorporating features 
> like the innovative DALL-E 3. Unlike Bing, which combines search and AI, 
> Copilot emerges as a ChatGPT-like app tailored to iOS devices.
> 
> Microsoft Copilot for iPad
> Copilot maintains its versatility as a multi-functional assistant on Android, 
> supporting GPT Vision, GPT-4, and DALL-E. The addition of ChatGPT-4 Turbo, 
> available to select users, enhances its ability to provide information on 
> recent events, especially with the search plugin disabled.
> 
> 
> 
> Copilot is ChatGPT-4 for iOS, but it’s absolutely free. You can write emails, 
> stories, or even summarize tough texts. It’s great with languages too, 
> helping you translate, proofread, and more. And it’s all free, which 
> Microsoft says won’t change.
> 
> 
> 
> It also plugin support, even third-party plugins at no extra cost. This can 
> be super handy for planning trips or sprucing up your resume. Plus, there’s 
> the Image Creator that turns your words into pictures right on your phone.
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Re: Using Parallels

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

The solution I use here is to remap a different key on the Windows VM to be 
Capslock. I typically turn the accent/tilde key into Capslock. You can find a 
program called Sharp Keys to do this. It basically edits a registry value.

You can also look for PowerToys in the Windows App Store. That also does key 
remapping.

Kelly


> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> to set it up, I have to use VOCR to read the screen.
> My VO key is caps lock key.
> it’s like the VM doesn’t see the key.
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Phil Halton > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are you saying that parallels is now accessible at least to some degree? I 
>> thought it was a complete black box for Mac voiceover users
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As  strange as it seems, telling VoiceOver to use the CAPSLOCK key and 
>>> keeping VoiceOver running while in Windows might resolve this issue. It did 
>>> for me with VMWare 3 years ago.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 11:02 AM 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
 Hi folks.
 I still have and intel mac and wanted to get a new one in the new year.
 I’ve been playing with Parallels, and so far I like it.
 I just can’t seem to get the Caps lock key to work with Jaws or NVDA.
 Does Anyone have any idea?
 
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Adding Widgets on Mac OS

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

Can someone point me to the proper method to add/remove widgets on the latest 
Mac OS.

I tried this article from Apple but it doesn’t seem to work.

I know how to open the Notification Center, indicate I want to edit widgets and 
find those I want. This is where I get stuck. I can activate the widget and it 
shows up in the preview area. At that point I’m stuck.

https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/notification-center-vo082d92ca69/mac#:~:text=Add%20or%20remove%20widgets%3A%20Navigate,then%20press%20VO%2DSpace%20bar.

Kelly

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Re: Will Vm Ware run on a M2 Mac?

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

The short answer from my experience is yes. The longer answer is that at least 
here I’ve had issues getting Windows to work here. The newest editions of 
VMWare have an option to download the ARM version of Windows from Microsoft, 
much like Parallels.

I can create my VMs but they never start correctly.  I’ve tried the latest 
released version of VMWare and different technical previews they’ve made 
available over the past several months.

Others may have better success but according to VMWare this is supposed to work.

Kelly
> On Dec 25, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Maurice A. Mines  wrote:
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> Hi  the  subject  says  it  all . Thinking about  switching from Parallels to 
>  Vm Ware. Is  this  a  good  idea? I  am  using  a  M2 Mac.
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> I hope  that all  list members of  the  list  are  having  a  grate holiday. 
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Re: Voice control on Mac running Sonoma

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I don’t use Voice Control but I do use Dictation fairly often to enter text.  
You can configure this so a double press for example of the control key turns 
on dictation, enter your text by voice and tap control again.



> On Dec 6, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> Is anyone successfully using voice control features to work with documents, 
> creating, editing etc.? I can see how it might have possibilities although 
> it’s for certain that you have to wear headphones or take some precautions so 
> that voiceover output isn’t bled in and mistaken as your commands by voice 
> control. That leads to some very interesting recursive activity. Anyway, I 
> have carpal tunnel problems and don’t want to aggravate them with excessive 
> typing. If this is a viable solution that is voice control commands in text 
> documents, that would be a great thing for me. As of now, with my new MacBook 
> Pro running Sonoma, I have discovered how to use dictation to do the bulk of 
> my typing, but also want to explore the possibilities for voice control with 
> its extensive editing commands. I’m hoping somebody out there is using voice 
> control successfully to work with their Mac. Please let me know how it’s 
> working for you. 
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Re: Reading Terminal Windows with VoiceOver

[Kelly Ford]

Jonathan,

Thanks for the pointer on that terminal screen reader. Instal was a snap and it 
works great for what it does. Alpine and Lynx are working well for example as 
are basic terminal commands and reading the output.

Kelly


On Nov 30, 2023, at 8:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

There is also a dedicated SR for for the terminal. I heard about it but I have 
not  actually tried it out at all.  We discussed it at the NY Public Library 
Mac VoiceOver discussion that occurs monthly on Saturdays.
Apple Vis link below:
https://www.applevis.com/blog/announcing-tdsr-command-line-screen-reader-macintosh-gnulinux
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Nov 30, 2023, at 8:20 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
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On 30/11/23 07:28, Kelly Ford wrote:
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to read Terminal windows with VoiceOver on 
the Mac a line at a time?
While interacting with the terminal widget, VO-Up/Down-Arrow should read the 
text a line at a time.

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Reading Terminal Windows with VoiceOver

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to read Terminal windows with VoiceOver on 
the Mac a line at a time? When I change VO to lines, everything is still read a 
word at a time.

Kelly

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VoiceOver and Text Editing with Mac OS 14 Betas

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

Is anyone else running the beta builds of Mac OS 14 and finding issues when 
editing text?  For example, I open some text files in TextEdit and use the 
arrow keys to try and read/edit. VoiceOver isn’t reading anything.

This also happens when I use the Feedback app to submit a bug report to Apple. 
I can press VO+a to read the full text field but moving by word, character and 
line with arrows and such is not working.

Text input and editing is working correctly in the Mail app.

Kelly

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Re: Track Changes in Word for Mac with VoiceOver

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Hello,I have not tried this myself but here is MICROSOFT support article on doing this with a Mac and voiceover.https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/office/use-a-screen-reader-to-track-and-review-changes-in-a-document-in-word-8d415281-6ef2-41ea-8532-38e410be5988#PickTab=macOSKellyOn Oct 6, 2023, at 10:20 AM, John Panarese  wrote:   It could very well have changed, but I know at least a year ago, that part of Word for Mac was not accessible to VoiceOver. However, I was told by a Microsoft accessibility person that it would be “fixed”. I don’t know if it’s changed as I have not had to mess with collaboration with Word for Mac.
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On Oct 6, 2023, at 7:47 AM, Chanelle Allen  wrote:Hello,As the subject says, I would like to know if reviewing/accepting track changes in Word for Mac is accessible with VoiceOver. I am working with a student who has been told that Jaws is better for that task, but I'm sure there is a way to accomplish the same thing on the Mac.Thank you.Regards,Chanelle

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Re: New Kindle App For Mac

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Hello,’'

There are buttons when reading for previous and next page. That is what the 
names say.

As for all Kindle books, for those you have access to because you purchased or 
otherwise obtained the book, there is a library view just as there is in the 
iOS version. As for other books, you’d use whatever source you use to get books 
and whatever process makes them appear in Kindle today. For example, if I 
borrow an ebook from my library, there is an option to Read with Kindle and 
when I choose that, after telling Amazon to send the book to my device, it 
appears on all Kindle apps I might use.

Kelly


> On Oct 1, 2023, at 1:50 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Well that sounds better than the other app for sure. How can you read
> through the complete list of kindle books? Also what is the button for
> next page? I hope they plan on improving this app over time. THanks
> for letting us know this was some what fixed.
> 
> On 9/30/23, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> Hey Kelly,
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this.
>> 
>> I had not checked out Kindle on the Mac and will download this early next
>> week to play with it.
>> 
>> Have a beautiful day.
>> 
>> best
>> Michael - KJ7PAZ
>> Payown Media, LLC
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don’t know what sort of results others had trying to read Kindle books
>>> on a Mac but for me it never worked. Earlier this month Amazon replaced
>>> the Mac Kindle app with a new one that can be downloaded from
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/f.html?C=2NDKK4Z370WL0=OENZWTSEAM6Y=urn:rtn:msg:20230928201021b6d8bf2029864addbf5336a46160p0na=3QSXJRRSLV94F=C=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Famazon-kindle%2Fid302584613=644ZGOXXVAQQLVDV9HYCDHXJGOYA.
>>> 
>>> This version seems to work with VoiceOver a lot like the iOS version does.
>>> So far continuous reading seems to stop at the end of each page and you
>>> have to use a next page command in the app to get more content. Maybe
>>> there’s an option I’m not finding to change this.
>>> 
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New Kindle App For Mac

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I don’t know what sort of results others had trying to read Kindle books on a 
Mac but for me it never worked. Earlier this month Amazon replaced the Mac 
Kindle app with a new one that can be downloaded from  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/f.html?C=2NDKK4Z370WL0=OENZWTSEAM6Y=urn:rtn:msg:20230928201021b6d8bf2029864addbf5336a46160p0na=3QSXJRRSLV94F=C=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Famazon-kindle%2Fid302584613=644ZGOXXVAQQLVDV9HYCDHXJGOYA.

This version seems to work with VoiceOver a lot like the iOS version does. So 
far continuous reading seems to stop at the end of each page and you have to 
use a next page command in the app to get more content. Maybe there’s an option 
I’m not finding to change this.

Kelly

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Instrument Keyboard Assignments in Garage Band

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a list of what instruments are assigned to what 
keyboard letters for instruments in Garage Band? I’m talking about situations 
where the instrument doesn’t typically have a keyboard or notes that can be 
assigned based on letters.

Drums are the best example of this. There are dozens of drum kits and within 
each, multiple drums and other instruments.

Kelly

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Re: Using the new macOS Sonoma

[Kelly Ford]

For me this happens if I have caps lock down and move into an edit box. I 
reported it to Apple during the beta and find it vexing.

My current solution is to turn on arrow key quick nav more frequently and use 
that instead of caps+left or right.



> On Sep 27, 2023, at 7:54 PM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> I do.
> it only seems to do it, when I’m holding it down.
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>> Do you have caps lock configured as a VoiceOver modifier? Mine is, and I 
>> can’t reproduce your issue (MacOS Sonoma).
>> I suppose you could try a double press of caps lock to turn it off, if it is 
>> on.
>>  
>> From: 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries > >
>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 15:31
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>> Subject: Using the new macOS Sonoma
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>> Hi folks. I”m really liking .
>> One weird thing, whenever I hold down the cap lock  key on my keyboard it 
>> keeps telling me to turn off the cap lock key. Does anybody have any idea 
>> how I can make it stop doing that?
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Re: 8 gigs or 16? Memory.

[Kelly Ford]

Maybe I missed it but where are you getting the not responding messages?



> On Sep 16, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Ok guys, then you are probably recommending…
> 
> Apple M2 chip with 8‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine, and the 
> 16GB unified memory? 512mb ssd.
> 
> Sheesh, this is $1599! Thank goodness, I have my current model to trade in. 
> They will give me $440 for it.
> 
> This really better stop the not responding messages. Lol!
> 
> Appreciate the recommendations,
> Traci
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> I agree with brad.
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 13:11, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>>> Hi all, I was just doing a little more reading on MacBook Air M2, and a 
>>> buying guide suggests upgrading to a 16 gig memory isn’t necessary for the 
>>> average user. What are your thoughts on this?
>>> 
>>> My MacBook Air from 2011 lasted me ten years, before I considered buying 
>>> new. This 2020 model I am using, I’m disappointed to feel the need to 
>>> purchase new now.
>>> 
>>> So, in short, this m2 model I’m considering, I want it to last me a good 
>>> while. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>> 
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Re: No luck with Vocr what is missing.

[Kelly Ford]

Are you running this on the main screen or the install screen for a VM?

I do File:New and then VOCR on the resulting screen.





> On Sep 10, 2023, at 1:49 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:
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> anders
> use utm instead
> vocr are litle tricky to install
> 
>> 10 sep. 2023 kl. 20:34 skrev Anders Holmberg :
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>> Hi!
>> I try to installl parallels desktop using Vocr and VOiceOver.
>> WHen install is complete I get a  screen with just parallels desktop and if 
>> I use voce on the screen I just get unknown.
>> I sdo i do not understand how people are using this.
>> Bless.
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Re: Video editing

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Although it is primarily used for audio editing, the Reaper program can be used 
for editing videos. I’ve had success trimming and making basic edits to screen 
recordings I’ve produced using the program to edit.

See www.reaperaccessibility.com  for more 
details. It might seem like this is using a really complex tool but you can 
focus on just the basics of setting markers, cutting and such.

Kelly


> On Jul 16, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Tom,
> Can’t help with the editing, but can you tell me what hardware and software 
> you used on your Mac to transfer those VHS tapes to digital format? I also 
> have some that I need to preserve before the VCR finally dies.
> 
> Dave Carlson
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> On Jul 16, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
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> I’ve been using the Mac for a little over a year but still consider myself a 
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> 40 years of old family videos on my hard drive now.  I’m wanting a piece of 
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Moving Messages in Outlook for Mac

[Kelly Ford]

I am wondering if anyone else has noticed a change inbehavior when moving 
messages in Outlook on the Mac. You enter a search for the mailbox and then 
would tab to a list of mailboxes.  Arrowing up and down used to read that list 
without any need for VO interaction. Now all you get is group for each mailbox.

I’m using:

Version 16.73 (23042602)

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Capslock in Linux

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way to issue the Capslock key in a Linux OS when running 
Parallels on a silicon Mac?  On Windows I remap a key using Sharp Keys or the 
recently updated Windows Power Toys.

I’m just trying to figure out how to issue commands to ORCA.

Kelly

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Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Parallels is doable but requires that you add an app called VOCR to your system 
to read the OS install screens. GitHub - chigkim/VOCR 
 is where you can get this.

There are several steps to getting this installed involving giving various 
permissions but the steps on the GitHub web page are pretty clear on what you 
need to do.
If you then choose File:New, in Parallels you can run OCR and issue mouse 
clicks on the get windows option and then continue. Rerun OCR and then issue a 
mouse click on Install Windows.

Things should be automatic from that point until you can launch Narrator.

You’ll likely want to use a utility called Sharp Keys, to remap caps lock in 
the Windows OS.

There is a third option beyond Fusion, which did recently announce a production 
version of Fusion for the M1 and M2 Macs.  UTM, available from the Mac App 
Store or as a download, is a GUI front end to an open source virtualization 
platform called QEMU. You can create VMs on the M1 and M2 Macs here by starting 
with a VHDX file from the Windows Insider program.  There are more hoops you 
have to jump through with UTM but it also works.

I’ve used all three of these solutions with success on an M1 Mac. BTW, Fusion 
has a free personal license you can obtain. Parallels has I believe about a $99 
a year subscription for the basic option and I think $119 for the Pro, which 
includes command line support and more.

I am working on a audio demo of installing and such with Parallels and hope to 
have it done in a couple days.

Hit, if you install the Linux options with Parallels, the default password 
created for the account that Parallels creates, is the same as your Mac OS 
password. I’m sharing this because at least for me the answer wasn’t 
immediately obvious.


Kelly



> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   Two choices that I am aware of. VMware Fusion and Parallels. I know nothing 
> about Parallels. I run VMware Fusion  on my Intel-based Mac. I would look 
> into this being that you have an M1 though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 4/26/2023 5:10 AM, Mohamed Fayed wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Hope my mail finds you well,
>> What is the recommended method for running windows 10 or 11 on Apple Silicon 
>> with Mac OS 13?
>> I may run either windows 10 or 11. What would be the best option? Or 
>> actually what are the available options in this regards?
>> How software looks like ?
>> Thank you so much,
>> Mohamed E. Fayed
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Re: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

[Kelly Ford]

Hi All,

I appreciate the thoughtful replies here. If I wasn't clear, the connection 
from my Apple TV to my television itself works fine. In fact when the audio 
quits working on the sound bar, I turn up the TV speaker and then I can hear 
the audio as I navigate Apple TV just fine. I’m just tired of having to do this.

I’m fairly certain the issue is something about the digital optical signal and 
or connection between the TV and the sound bar. I’ve tried multiple items to 
resolve this and the issue itself isn’t unique to Apple TV. I’ve had Roku and 
FireTV in the mix as well with the same challenge.

At this point I’m just going to explore routing the VoiceOver audio itself if 
as people say, that’s possible.

If media is playing on the Apple TV, the entire system works fine. So I’m 
guessing something in the mix is cutting off the signal, again either in the 
sound bar or the optical out.  I may continue to try and debug that but want to 
solve this immediate problem.

I’m guessing it is the sound bar in some fashion because I have pretty much the 
identical TV and Apple TV in a second location connected to a different full 
audio tuner for my surround sound environment and don’t have this problem.

I appreciate the thoughtful replies.

Kelly


> On Apr 21, 2023, at 10:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Kelly,
> 
> You ask an interesting question.  The short answer is, "yes," you can direct 
> VoiceOver audio to a different sound destination; however, I don't think that 
> is the problem, in your situation.
> 
> I am going to provide the broad strokes as to how you might begin to resolve 
> your current issue.  Keep in mind that I am writing in extremely general 
> terms.
> 
> 1.
> Your Apple TV should be connected to your Samsung TV via an HDMI cable.  In 
> the best-case scenario, Apple TV should be connected to the Samsung via an 
> HDMI (ARC) cable (to an HDMI ARC port) but it is not necessary.  A standard 
> HDMI connection is just fine.  In the simplest HDMI connection, you should be 
> able to hear VoiceOver through the built-in speaker on your Samsung TV as you 
> would hear it in iOS and on the Mac.  Be certain that this is working before 
> you attempt to connect a sound bar to the Samsung Tv.
> 
> 2.
> Assuming that the above scenario is working as expected, you may now connect 
> a sound bar.  The type of connection you will use to connect the Samsung TV 
> to the sound bar will greatly depend upon (1) the type of audio ports that 
> are available on the Samsung TV and (2) the type of audio ports that are 
> available on the sound bar.  Obviously, I cannot describe all of the 
> possibilities that may or may not be available to you but I can tell you that 
> one of the simplest solutions would be to connect the Samsung TV to the sound 
> bar via an optical digital audio cable.  In many instances, such a solution 
> would allow you to hear audio from both the Samsung TV built-in speaker and 
> the sound bar, simultaneously with the ability to adjust the volume of each, 
> independently.
> 
> Ultimately, you will have to study the instruction manual for both your 
> Samsung TV and sound bar for the best results but the scenario in number 2, 
> listed above, is definitely a good place to begin.
> 
> I hope this helps and happy listening.
> 
> Mark
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> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Kelly Ford
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 5:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is 
> often not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but 
> rather the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.
> 
> Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
> different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
> specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.
> 
> Kelly
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Redirecting Just VoiceOver Audio From Apple TV

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

For some reason, if my Apple TV is not playing media, VoiceOver speech is often 
not played. I don’t think it is a problem with my Apple TV itself but rather 
the Samsung TV and how it sends audio to a sound bar I have connected.

Anyway, does anyone know if you can direct just the VoiceOver audio to a 
different sound source from the Apple TV?  I was thinking of setting up a 
specific speaker for just this or trying even a Bluetooth headset.

Kelly

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Excel and Mac OS 13

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

A bit ago I asked if anyone else was having issues with Excel and Mac OS 13 
where the content of cells was not being read as you navigated.  I’ve made an 
interesting discovery on this.

I use Eloquence as my synthesizer on Mac OS 13 and with any of those voices in 
use, as I arrow from cell to cell, nothing is read.  However, if I switch back 
to a voice such as Samantha, cell contents are indeed read.

I’m now even more curious what others are finding.

I am doing this on an M1 Mac.

Kelly

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Excel on M1 Mac

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I am curious if anyone else is having issues with Excel on an M1 Mac with Mac 
OS 13?  In short, the grid content does not read.

If I open the spreadsheet and arrow around, nothing is read.  The cell content 
should be read and is on an Intel Mac.

This has only started happening since updating to the newest OS.

Kelly

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Re: Screen Recording

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I do this using Quick Time and the Loop Back program from:

https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback/

This allows me to create what shows up as a Microphone that combines whatever 
microphone I’m using along with the sound from VoiceOver.  The program has been 
updated for Mac OS 13.

Kelly





> On Nov 6, 2022, at 3:37 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> This article describes the available techniques:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/how-to-screen-record-on-mac
> 
> On 6/11/22 15:43, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> I know Quicktime has some screen recording options.
>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 23:08, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Hello all,
>>>   Running Ventura. How to make a screen recording that will capture 
>>> Voiceover? Thanks.
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A Basic Question on Changing Sound Sources

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

Maybe I’m missing it but is there a way to move through the list of sound 
sources for output and not have each sound source selected as you move.  For 
example, if my Mac output is set to speakers, the next item in order in my list 
of sound sources in the table is my Apple TV device.  The third is a USB sound 
device I have connected.

Late at night, I want to switch to the USB device but it often first results in 
some sound going to the Apple TV.

I’m interacting with the table of devices with output selected in the Sound 
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Updated Audio Hijack Released

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I just recently started using the Audio Hijack program and found it solid 
previously.  They released a major update today that adds a lot more 
functionality.


Rogue Amoeba | Audio Hijack: Record Any Audio on 
MacOS

Full details are in this blog post at:

Rogue Amoeba - Under the Microscope » Blog Archive » Audio Hijack 4 Has 
Arrived!

Kelly



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Basic Editing of Quicktime Files on Mac

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I am trying to do some basic editing of quicktime recordings.  So far the most 
success I’ve had it to use cmd+y to turn the recording into clips and bring up 
the clip view with cmd+e.  I then interact with the list and have to count the 
number of clips and delete the items I do not want.

What I haven’t figured out is if there is a faster way or a method to get the 
details about each clip, such as length.

These are generally videos where I want to cut segments out from the middle of 
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Garage Band Basic Recording

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I want to use Garage Band on the Mac to do some basic audio recording of some 
text I need to read.  I understand how to get the recording established, tracks 
and such.

If I press r, that will start recording but how to I pause/stop and then start 
recording at the end of where I left off?  If I press space it does stop 
recording but also starts playback so unless I let that run to the end, I end 
up recording over myself.


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Re: Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

[Kelly Ford]

Thank you,

Command option and the arrow keys did the trick.

Kelly

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
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> Try option up or down arrow.
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> This seems like it should be obvious so maybe I’m missing something.  When 
>> using the Mail app on the Mac, how do you jump to the start or end of the 
>> message list?  I was thinking Home and End would do this but not so.
>> 
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Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

This seems like it should be obvious so maybe I’m missing something.  When 
using the Mail app on the Mac, how do you jump to the start or end of the 
message list?  I was thinking Home and End would do this but not so.

Kelly

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Re: Capslock and VMWare Fusion

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Hi,

A bit more of an update here.

My preference when I use JAWS on Windows is to use the laptop layout.  As I 
said, I originally had mapped a function key to insert.  The bluetooth keyboard 
I was using had extra function keys so I mapped what showed up as F19.

But my ultimate goal is to use the MacBook’s keyboard directly.  There are no 
function keys, just the Touch Bar.  While I can press function keys using the 
Touch Bar, I have no idea how you hold them to also press a second key.

So now what I’ve done is remapped the Accent key (left edge of the numbers) to 
be Capslock in Fusion.  I then ensure the Windows screen readers are using 
Capslock as a modifier.

Then when I want to issue a Windows screen reader command, I just press and 
hold the accent key with what ever key I want, such as t for Window title.

I’ve tried this now with JAWS, NVDA and Narrator on the Windows VM while 
running VoiceOver on the Mac and so far it is working well.  I can control both 
screen readers (Windows and Mac) and use just the MacBook’s standard keyboard.

The only customization I had to do in the end was open Fusion preferences, 
choose Keyboard and Mouse and then the profile my VMs use and add this one 
extra keyboard mapping.

Kelly

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:21 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Out of interest, Kelly, which function key did you assign to insert key?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 1 Nov 2019, at 11:09, ke...@kellford.com <mailto:ke...@kellford.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I haven’t tried this with Capslock yet but since my end goal was to control 
>> a Windows screen reader, did want to mention one discovery.  In VMWare 
>> Fusion, I used the key mappings feature to remap one of the function keys on 
>> my Mac to the Insert key.  So now I can press that key and the appropriate 
>> Windows screen reader key with success.  I didn’t have to jump through other 
>> hoops here.
>>  
>> Kelly
>>  
>> From: kelly ford mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Capslock and VMWare Fusion
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Thank you for the detailed replies here.  This all mirrors what I thought I 
>> would have to do but I was hoping something might have changed.  I will try 
>> this all.
>>  
>> In the short term, I am using a bluetooth keyboard with a numeric keypad and 
>> issuing the Windows screen reader commands from there is working well.
>>  
>> Beyond that, Fusion is working well to run multiple Windows VMs.
>>  
>> Kelly
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello Kelly,
>>>  
>>> The problem of the caps key as Jaws key in VMWare Fusion has always been a 
>>> bit of a problem and you will need to jump through a number of hoops to 
>>> make it work.  The way I had accomplished it some years ago, as long as I 
>>> can remember is as follows.
>>> 1. You need to disable caps lock function on the mac side in system 
>>> preferences then keyboard, then press the modifier key options button.  In 
>>> the dialog that will appear, you can specify what actions various modifier 
>>> keys can perform on the mac.  These are popup buttons.  Caps lock key must 
>>> be set to no action because Mac OS doesn’t release caps lock actions to 
>>> windows installations under VMWare Fusion as far as I understand.
>>>  
>>> 2. You need to download a utility for mac called Karabiner Elements from 
>>> the link below:
>>> https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/ <https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/>
>>> This utility once installed will allow you to remap the function caps lock 
>>> key to act as an insert key.  As you know, mac doesn’t have insert key so 
>>> you need to remap it so that caps lock key is recognized as insert key.
>>> Once you install Karabiner Elements, depending on your version of OS, you 
>>> may have to grant it permissions in system preferences security & privacy, 
>>> under privacy tab.
>>> Also, Karabiner Elements, once installed, will create an icon for itself in 
>>> menu extra.  That’s how you will always find the app and activate it.  Its 
>>> window easily disappears once you command + tab away from it so I thought 
>>> I’d warn you.
>>> In Karabiner Elements you need to again reassign the function of caps lock 
>>> key

Subject Before From in Mail

[kelly ford]

Hi,

For large lists such as this, I prefer to use the conversation view.  I think 
the answer is no, but is there any method of configuring mail settings such 
that you can have the subject before the long list of who has sent messages in 
the conversation when it is collapsed.  This can sometimes be 10 or more names.

Kelly


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Re: Capslock and VMWare Fusion

[kelly ford]

Hi,

Thank you for the detailed replies here.  This all mirrors what I thought I 
would have to do but I was hoping something might have changed.  I will try 
this all.

In the short term, I am using a bluetooth keyboard with a numeric keypad and 
issuing the Windows screen reader commands from there is working well.

Beyond that, Fusion is working well to run multiple Windows VMs.

Kelly



> On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kelly,
> 
> The problem of the caps key as Jaws key in VMWare Fusion has always been a 
> bit of a problem and you will need to jump through a number of hoops to make 
> it work.  The way I had accomplished it some years ago, as long as I can 
> remember is as follows.
> 1. You need to disable caps lock function on the mac side in system 
> preferences then keyboard, then press the modifier key options button.  In 
> the dialog that will appear, you can specify what actions various modifier 
> keys can perform on the mac.  These are popup buttons.  Caps lock key must be 
> set to no action because Mac OS doesn’t release caps lock actions to windows 
> installations under VMWare Fusion as far as I understand.
> 
> 2. You need to download a utility for mac called Karabiner Elements from the 
> link below:
> https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/ <https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/>
> This utility once installed will allow you to remap the function caps lock 
> key to act as an insert key.  As you know, mac doesn’t have insert key so you 
> need to remap it so that caps lock key is recognized as insert key.
> Once you install Karabiner Elements, depending on your version of OS, you may 
> have to grant it permissions in system preferences security & privacy, under 
> privacy tab.
> Also, Karabiner Elements, once installed, will create an icon for itself in 
> menu extra.  That’s how you will always find the app and activate it.  Its 
> window easily disappears once you command + tab away from it so I thought I’d 
> warn you.
> In Karabiner Elements you need to again reassign the function of caps lock 
> key to insert key.  This is relatively straight forward but you will need to 
> do some exploring.  There are basically two popup buttons in a table left 
> column says something like from key, and right column says something like, to 
> key.  You need to choose from caps lock and in the right column to insert key.
> This will be all for Mac OS side.
> 
> 4. Now once you’ve started Windows in VMWare Fusion, you will need to search 
> via google for a small utility called sharpkeys.exe by Randyrats, if I 
> remember.  Download it and install it.  Once you launch the sharkkeys.exe 
> application, you will need to again reassign caps lock to insert key and 
> insert key to caps key.  This should do it.  I can’t be more helpful on all 
> the steps of how you’d do this in sharpkeys as I’m not able to look at it 
> while typing this message but you probably have enough experience to work it 
> out after you’ve explored sharkeys windows.  Basically sharkeys will change 
> reassignment of caps lock key and insert key in Windows registry.  You will 
> need to restart your Windows for the reassignment to take effect.  I don’t 
> know exactly why you need to reassign caps to insert and then again insertt 
> to caps but when I did only the former, it didn’t work.  It only worked for 
> me when I did the insert to caps reassignment as well.  Of course you need to 
> tell Jaws to use capslock key as Jaws key.
> 
> Hope this will help, and please anyone chip in if I have made a mistake in 
> the above or omitted anything.
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 18 Oct 2019, at 03:24, kelly ford > <mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I believe I’ve read solutions to get the Capslock key to work on Windows 
>> when running under Fusion on the Mac.  Could someone remind me what options 
>> might exist when doing this on a Macbook Pro so I can control a Windows 
>> screen reader without using a full sized keyboard?
>>  
>> Thank you for any pointers here.
>>  
>> Kelly
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Capslock and VMWare Fusion

[kelly ford]

Hi,

 

I believe I’ve read solutions to get the Capslock key to work on Windows when 
running under Fusion on the Mac.  Could someone remind me what options might 
exist when doing this on a Macbook Pro so I can control a Windows screen reader 
without using a full sized keyboard?

 

Thank you for any pointers here.

 

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[kelly ford]

Hi Pete and all,

 

The sound card is definitely present.  I hear all the standard sounds from 
Windows and when the screen readers are talking, the sound meters indicate that 
audio is being produced.

 

Kelly

 

From:  on behalf of Pete De Vasto 

Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

 

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.

2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

 

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

 

Pete De Vasto



On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

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And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

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Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[kelly ford]

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
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sturi...@icloud.com

Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

[Kelly Ford]

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



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> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
> work around?
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> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
> booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
> get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do 
> have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.
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Re: Adjusting Individual Audio Sources on the Mac

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Hi Robert,

 

Is it possible this program was renamed?  So far the only program by the 
company you mentioned I’m finding is called Fission.  It appears to be an audio 
editor/converter.

 

Kelly

 

From:  on behalf of Robert Carter 

Reply-To: 
Date: Friday, June 7, 2019 at 7:37 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Adjusting Individual Audio Sources on the Mac

 

Hi Kelly,

 

There is an app from Rogue Amoeba called SoundSource that will almost certainly 
do what you want.

 

This is an application that lives in the extras menu. At the moment, there is a 
VoiceOver bug that keeps the VoiceOver option+control+space command from 
opening the SoundSource window. So, you have to click the trackpad to open the 
program from the extras menu. I have reported this and it will be fixed in an 
update.

 

Robert Carter

 

 



On Jun 6, 2019, at 8:51 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Is there any way to adjust the audio level for individual applications on the 
Mac?  I don’t mean audio ducking but rather setting the sound level for each 
program that’s producing audio.

 

I’m looking for something equivalent to opening the volume control on Windows 
where you can make individual adjustments.  I don’t know if something similar 
exists on the Mac?

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Math Content and VoiceOver with Safari

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Thank you Jason,

 

This was my experience and I just wanted to see if there was something I was 
missing here.  It doesn’t sound like it.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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Date: Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Math Content and VoiceOver with Safari

 

So far as I’m aware, Nemeth Code is supported under iOS, but not Mac OS. On the 
Mac, you’ll get a braille representation of the text as it would be spoken.

 

Whether Apple’s recently announced enhancements to braille support will change 
this (immediately or subsequently) is not publicly known. I would recommend 
taking this up with Apple Accessibility. If they don’t receive comments on it, 
it’s less likely to be given significant priority.

 

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Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 11:29 AM
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Subject: Math Content and VoiceOver with Safari

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know the current story with MathML content and VoiceOver with 
Safari?  For example is there any way to have the braille of this show up as 
Nemeth code?

 

Kelly

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Adjusting Individual Audio Sources on the Mac

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Hi,

 

Is there any way to adjust the audio level for individual applications on the 
Mac?  I don’t mean audio ducking but rather setting the sound level for each 
program that’s producing audio.

 

I’m looking for something equivalent to opening the volume control on Windows 
where you can make individual adjustments.  I don’t know if something similar 
exists on the Mac?

 

Kelly

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iCloud Status in Finder

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Hi,

 

If I go to my iCloud folder on the Mac and open view options, there is a
check box to turn on iCloud status for files.  Does VoiceOver read this
status in any of the views?  So far I've not found any changes with this
column on that I could detect.

 

Kelly

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RE: Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

[Kelly Ford]

Thank you.  Appreciate the pointers.

 

Kelly

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

 

Hi,

 

To accomplish this, when the FaceTime call connects, the Notification Centre 
opens a dialog with some items, including Mute, End, the time elapsed, and 
image as well as the caller name if available.  You'll need to navigate to 
either the image, the caller title, or the time elapsed items and VO-space on 
them.  Now, you can enter the digits using the numbers on your keyboard.  
There's not a field per se, just the tones will be accepted.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher

(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:34, Kelly Ford mailto:ke...@kellford.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Can someone give me a pointer on how to dial digits after a call is connected 
if I’m using Facetime on the Mac?  Apple support indicates you should just be 
able to type the extra digits but that doesn’t seem to work.Do I need to get VO 
focus into a certain area?

 

Kelly

 

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Dialing Digits When on a Call in Facetime

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

 

Can someone give me a pointer on how to dial digits after a call is
connected if I'm using Facetime on the Mac?  Apple support indicates you
should just be able to type the extra digits but that doesn't seem to
work.Do I need to get VO focus into a certain area?

 

Kelly

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Re: Screen Recording with Voiceover Audio

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Hi,

 

I had asked about this originally.  What I was hoping to do was use the 
built-in recording you get with cmd+shift+f5 on the Mac to include VoiceOver 
audio. I can turn on the microphone and pick VoiceOver up a bit from the 
speakers but was trying to find a setting to include system audio directly. I 
want to record activity from apps on the Mac, not an iPhone.

 

Kelly

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Date: Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 7:32 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Screen Recording with Voiceover Audio

 

Hi,

 

Are you hearing the iPhone's VO through the computer?  Also, did you make sure 
to choose "New Movie Recording"?

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher

(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Dec 14, 2018, at 19:35, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Photos fixed I thin, thanks. Qoicktime now sees the iPhone, I selected it for 
both video and audio but the start recording button remains dimmed.

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On 12/14/2018 2:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,
Two things.  First, to address the Photos thing.  When in the Photos app on 
your Mac, you can interact with the Navigation bar in the Photos screen and 
uncheck the box for that prompt.  Second, check that your iPhone is visible 
when in iTunes.  I believe that you need to have trusted the interaction 
between the devices.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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Hi Tim,
  I finally had some time to do this. After selecting "New Movie Recording", in 
the "Show Capture Devices" pop-up I am not seeing the iPhone choice. I know the 
Mac sees it because I am asked if I want to allow access to Photos. Would to 
stop that. Anyway, did I miss a step?
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Hi,
This is totally doable on iOS if you also have a Mac.  You can connect the iOS 
device to your Mac with the USB charging cable.  Go to QuickTime on your Mac 
and choose "New Movie Recording" from the file menu.  In the resulting window, 
VO-space on the "Show Capture Devices" pop-up and select the iPad or iPhone for 
both video and audio capturing.  By default, the volume seems to always be 
muted, so VO-left to the Full Volume button and press it.  Finally, VO-right to 
the Start Recording button and press it. Because you are doing a movie 
recording, you get both the video and audio from the iOS device recorded by 
QuickTime.   Press the Stop button to end the recording and edit/trim/save your 
product.
This appears to be more challenging on the Mac.  I can use an app called 
Reflector to capture the video content, but the VoiceOver Audio is more 
challenging.  I've got some ideas, but need to round up a cable or two to test 
before I make any commitments as to its usability.  The audio and video is 
mirrored when using Reflector and an iOS device, but I haven't bothered messing 
with recording this way yet.
HTH.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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  Someone ashed about this and I have not seen any responses. I also want to 
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Including System Audio In Screen Recording

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Hi,

 

Is there any option to include system audio when doing a screen recording from 
the Mac? I find an option to choose the microphone but so far no option to 
include system audio.

 

So far the way I have done this is to connect the computer to a USB sound card 
that can send system audio back to the computer as microphone input and that 
works fine unless I’m not near that device.  It isn’t portable.

 

I’m doing the screen recording with the command+shift+5 option.

 

Kelly

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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Hello,

Yes the volume is up and again
If I play Music or other audio as well as any sounds a screen readers make I 
hear that already. Also, if I switch to a USB sound card, the screen reader 
audio kicks in just fine.

I guess for now I'll stay with VirtualBox and just avoid updating Windows or 
reapply an older snapshot as needed.

This one is a bit perplexing to me.

Kelly







On 12/1/18, 3:08 AM, "Simon Fogarty"  wrote:

What about the volume?
Is it turned up in the vms?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of KellyFord
Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2018 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I have checked the sound cards that the screen readers are configured for 
and all of that is correct.  So far I've not found any errors in logs.

I use virtual machines from both VMWare and VirtualBox daily on Windows but 
wanted to add a Mac to my environment for some work I'm doing and hopefully 
still have access to Windows on that machine.

If nothing else, I'll just stick to the USB sound card option.  That does 
work well.

Kelly



-Original Message-
From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 6:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

I'm probably stating the obvious, but have you checked that the screen 
readers are configured for the default Windows sound device? They should be, 
but under the VM, it's still worth verifying just to be sure.

Do any relevant error messages appear in the Windows event logs?

I haven't tried a VM on the Mac, so I can't offer advice from experience.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I have checked this and to be clear, computer sounds, music and such plays 
just fine without the USB sound card.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

O it isn't needed 
Have you checked your vm settings or config to make sure you have an audio 
device installed to your vm for audio to be heard.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 2:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I 
was able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like 
I should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, 
although music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to 
try are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
On Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is 
experiencing this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual 
machine. Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to 
speech does not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In 
addition, when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not 
the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who 
replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:

Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

I have had success with VirtualBox previously and still do as long as I don't 
update to the 1809 release of Windows. There is an open ticket with Oracle for 
audio issues with VirtualBox and that version of Windows.

Kelly
On 11/30/18, 4:20 PM, "Mike Arrigo"  wrote:

I work in tech support and have gotten some calls from users of our 
windows software having issues with a virtual machine both on Fusion 
and Parallels. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that if you want 
to run Windows, use a separate PC, you will have far less problems.
Original message:
> Jonathan,
> It is starting to look lihe running a VM is not as good a deal as a
> standalone Windows machine. I am also losing faith in the VMware forums.

>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?

> On 11/30/2018 7:57 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> This is the second person I have heard having issues with a Focus 
>> display and current versions. ET was unable to get the Focus driver 
>> installed. Does anybody know if these issues have been discussed with 
>> VMWare? I guess the one other major issue we in the Blind community 
>> have experienced with VMWare is that the Caps lock does not get 
>> transferred over to the VM without major hacks. Personally, I would 
>> love to have my Windows USB keyboard hard attached to the VM but I have 
>> no idea if this is possible.
>>> On Nov 28, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Pete De Vasto  
wrote:

>>> Hi Kelly,

>>> I’ve struggled with VMWare Fusion lots as well, but do have it going 
>>> pretty much all the time now. The one trick I’ve noticed you have to do 
>>> is toggle back and forth in and out of your machine’s screen while it’s 
>>> starting up. I hope I can explain this correctly, here goes:

>>> When your machine starts, you’ll eventually hear VO say “suspend this 
>>> guest operating system”. At that point, press Command+control+f. You’ll 
>>> probably hear VO say something like space with applications followed by 
>>> whatever is currently running, like finder, Mail, Messages or whatever. 
>>> Press Control+command+f again, and you should hear VO say “Space with 
>>> the name of your Windows machine full-screen”. At that point, you know 
>>> you are in the VMWare window. Press Control+G to give keyboard focus to 
>>> the VM machine. Oh yeah, and the keystroke to start Narrator won’t 
>>> work, because VO is picking up the Control+Windows combination as its 
>>> command. I normally do Windows+R, then type Narrator, and it does come 
>>> up. Then, to get out of Narrator, I have to alt-tab to the Narrator 
>>> Settings window, and when I press Alt+F4, Narrator does exit. If you 
>>> can get to the point where you can in fact install JAWS, it does work 
>>> pretty nicely, by the way. I started out with VMWare 10, and my USB 
>>> devices, including my Focus 40 Blue, connected just fine. But then I 
>>> tried upgrading to VMWare Version 11, and for some reason I couldn't 
>>> get any of my USB devices going, so I had to go back to version 10.

>>> I hope this isn’t confusing, and that maybe others can chime in with 
>>> clarifications or other thoughts. Good luck and I hope you can get it 
going.

>>> Pete De Vasto

>>>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 5:15 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

>>>> Hi,

>>>> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
>>>> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
>>>> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch 
>>>> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I force 
>>>> quit the program.

>>>> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
>>>> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

>>>> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

>>>> Thank you,

>>>> Kelly

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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I have checked this and to be clear, computer sounds, music and such plays just 
fine without the USB sound card.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

O it isn't needed 
Have you checked your vm settings or config to make sure you have an audio 
device installed to your vm for audio to be heard.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2018 2:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I was 
able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like I 
should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although 
music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try 
are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. 
Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does 
not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might 
be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are 
running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system 
preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that 
VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for 
VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac 
forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security 
risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be 
up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is always required but by using a USB audio device, I was 
able to get screen reader audio to work on the VMs.  This doesn't seem like I 
should have to do this but so far at least the VMs are now usable.



On 11/29/18, 1:40 PM, "Kelly Ford"  wrote:

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although 
music and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try 
are appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. 
Sound for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does 
not seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to 
going to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow 
VMware to control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go 
allow the extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might 
be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are 
running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system 
preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that 
VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for 
VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac 
forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security 
risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or 
other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get 
VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be 
up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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RE: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[Kelly Ford]

The plot thickens!  Audio from JAWS and NVDA also does not work, although music 
and computer sounds all play fine.

Anyone who has resolved this sort of situation, any thoughts on what to try are 
appreciated.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. Sound 
for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does not 
seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to going 
to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow VMware to 
control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go allow the 
extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Hi,

A new wrinkle has emerged here. I am curious if anyone else is experiencing 
this.

I used an ISO from Windows 10 version 1809 to create my virtual machine. Sound 
for the VM in general is working. However, Narrator text to speech does not 
seem to work correctly.

I can play music or other audio from the VM and it plays fine. In addition, 
when Narrator is running, I hear the sounds Narrator makes just not the speech.

I haven't tried other TTS, such as Eloquence with JAWS yet and am also 
following up with Narrator contacts.

Kelly

On 11/28/18, 6:57 PM, "kelly ford"  wrote:

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to going 
to privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow VMware to 
control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go allow the 
extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I 
launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I 
force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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Re: VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Thank you for this information. Also, thank you to others who replied.

This solution fixed at least getting the program launched. I had to going to 
privacy and then accessibility and indicate that I wanted to allow VMware to 
control my computer. Then when I launched VMware fusion, I had to go allow the 
extension.

I am creating my first virtual machine so we'll see how that goes.
 Again thank you to everyone who replied here.
Kelly

On 11/28/18, 11:24 AM, "Maurice Mines"  wrote:

  Good morning, I might have an idea as to what your problem might be. 
Are you running OS X  Mojave? Just salute you know  if you are running 
the current version of VMware, you have to go into system preferences 
and make sure that in the privacy and/or security settings that VMware 
is permitted to access those resources a.k.a. the extension for VMware 
needs to be allowed to run. If the item is not chocked your Mac forbids 
the program to be run because did use it as a potential security risk 
when it is not. Give that a shot? And I think your problem will 
hopefully go away.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Amateur station call kd0iko.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 17:15, kelly ford wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other 
> resource, I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare 
> Fusion to run on a MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch 
> the program and it opens but then stops responding. Eventually I force 
> quit the program.
>
> Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? 
> I’ve used VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.
>
> The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kelly
>
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VMWare Fusion Question or Two

[kelly ford]

Hi,

These are probably basic questions but if there is a pointer or other resource, 
I’d appreciate hearing about it. I am trying to get VMWare Fusion to run on a 
MacBook Pro and not having a lot of luck.  I launch the program and it opens 
but then stops responding. Eventually I force quit the program.

Does this generally work and if so any thoughts on what might be up? I’ve used 
VirtualBox successfully previously on the same machine.

The machine is fully updated to the latest Mac OS.

Thank you,

Kelly

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Re: Issuing VoiceOver commands on an IPhone with the Bluetooth keyboard

[Kelly Ford]

The blog post at http://www.hllf.net/70 also has a good list of keyboard 
commands.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Paul Hunt prh...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Thanks Carolyn, I really appreciate it.
 
 On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:21 PM, carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Paul:
 If you go to Apple.com, search for accessibility and keyboard commands, you 
 should be able to find what you're looking for.  Also, you can get this info 
 at applevis.com
 
 
 On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 
 Hello everyone. I want to know how to issue a VoiceOver Read Page command 
 on my IPhone with my Bluetooth keyboard. I also would like to know how to 
 use the roter command from the keyboard. I know about the vo+k command. 
 However, how can I get a complete list of keyboard equivalent keys for the 
 IPhone?
 
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RE: GPS Apps

[Kelly Ford]

For what it is worth, I was very disappointed in TomTom.  I found it
difficult to use with VO and found it was not possible to get turn
directions i.e. right/left.  I regret purchasing that app.

I've been pretty impressed with the Mapquest app.  Aside from address entry
being a bit tedious, the directions have been solid and for free I'm
surprised what the app does.

Kelly



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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Greetings,

Perhaps those who believe  Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might
consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they
tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off
people who might otherwise find this app very useful.

Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take
a technical wizard to ascertain, for example  that from the main screen one
can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search
for a POI to start a business search.  VO identifies both of these as
buttons.

Best regards.
Geoff

On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Kawal:
 Call me dense.  But, I still think there's too much rocket science
involved in making Navigon work.  I've gotten discouraged with the number of
hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere.  Or, perhaps I'm
just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with.  I have
a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using
it.:)
 
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Managing Music Library Outside iTunes and Using within iTunes

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

 

I have a mixture of Mac and Windows computers in my house and am trying to
figure out the best way to handle my music library so iTunes knows about the
music but where I don't want to manage the library in iTunes.

 

I keep the music in a directory that is shared so multiple computers in my
house can access the files.  In Windows I just point WMP Media Center and my
Squeezebox server to the folder as a place to look and when I addnew
content, WMP Squeezebox and Windows Media Center automatically update.  I
can tell iTunes to add files from this directory but that seems to be a
one-time action.  If I add new content, I need to tell iTunes to look at the
directory again.  This is both tedious and time consuming.  Is there a
better approach?

 

The reason I'm using iTunes at all is because I want to be able to put some
of the music on my iPhone.  If there's a better way to do this outside of
iTunes, I'd consider that too.  I do not use the Mac in the house for music
that often.

 

Kelly

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Changing Instruments in Garage Band

[Kelly Ford]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could give me a pointer on changing  
instruments in Garage Band?  I am using Snow Leopard and the software  
instrument option.  I am able to select the different checkboxes for  
instrument types and then interact with a table that lists items  
within a category.

But no matter what I seem to have selected, all I get used when I use  
the keyboard is a basic piano sound.

I've downloaded an update that says it has all the updated instruments  
and loops.

Also, how do you read the keyboard shortcuts and help in this app?   
They don't seem to read for me with VO.

I've read through some tutorials and such and am generally able to get  
around the app.

Kelly

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