Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Kevin Chao]

PowerBetas3 with W1-chip have low-latency, low-quality (sound/comfort), and
high battery-life. It also doesn't have multi-point, so it cannot easily
switch between Apple devices (i.e. it can only connect to one device at a
time).
Note: AirPods and Solo are the same.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:37 AM Simon Fogarty  wrote:

> So hang on,
>
> Beets have released a set of headphones with the W1 chip in them?
>
>
>
> Crazy that apple would allow beets to release their headphones before
> apple release their ear ods first,
>
>
>
> I know they are the same company but still I would have thought apple
> would be releasing theirs first.
>
>
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Chao
> *Sent:* Monday, 3 October 2016 7:51 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded
> awesome
>
>
>
> W1 Chip still has lag :(
>
> Based on below excerpt, latency in w1 chip is less than most Bluetooth,
> but latency /= 0 ms | /= Wired connection.
>
> "... a RemoteTalk headphone cable with 3.5mm headphone jacks ...  This,
> effectively, allows you to turn your Beats Solo3 Wireless Headphones into a
> pair of Beats Solo3 Wired Headphones. This is great for those times ... for
> other occasions, such as low latency podcast monitoring (latency is
> significantly less than most Bluetooth headphones, yet it’s still
> discernible.)"
>
>
> https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/hands-on-beats-solo3-wireless-the-first-available-headphones-featuring-apples-new-w1-chip-video/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
> I think it all depends on when things get sourced, parts are finished and
> assembly takes place.  Apple likes to build up a big supply before they let
> something go.  You have a very good point I just figure something in the
> supply chain held something up and they didn’t want to stall on the phone.
>
>
>
> Pure speculation of course.
>
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
>
>
> I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been
> great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
>
>
>
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending
> on whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with
> non-Apple bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the
> charging case. Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if
> they are not in range of a device that they are already paired with.
>
>
>
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair
> with all devices using the sane iCloud account.
>
>
>
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a
> pair.
>
>
>
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement
> units, though there is no mention of price yet.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
>
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:
>
> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate
> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>
> I don’t see how this works though.
>
> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth
> is the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this
> W1 chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no
> W1 processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for
> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned
> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the
> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not
> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS
> 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other
> devices?
>
>
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>
>
>
> 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

So hang on,
Beets have released a set of headphones with the W1 chip in them?

Crazy that apple would allow beets to release their headphones before apple 
release their ear ods first,

I know they are the same company but still I would have thought apple would be 
releasing theirs first.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Monday, 3 October 2016 7:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

W1 Chip still has lag :(
Based on below excerpt, latency in w1 chip is less than most Bluetooth, but 
latency /= 0 ms | /= Wired connection.
"... a RemoteTalk headphone cable with 3.5mm headphone jacks ...  This, 
effectively, allows you to turn your Beats Solo3 Wireless Headphones into a 
pair of Beats Solo3 Wired Headphones. This is great for those times ... for 
other occasions, such as low latency podcast monitoring (latency is 
significantly less than most Bluetooth headphones, yet it’s still discernible.)"
https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/hands-on-beats-solo3-wireless-the-first-available-headphones-featuring-apples-new-w1-chip-video/

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM Scott Granados 
> wrote:
I think it all depends on when things get sourced, parts are finished and 
assembly takes place.  Apple likes to build up a big supply before they let 
something go.  You have a very good point I just figure something in the supply 
chain held something up and they didn’t want to stall on the phone.

Pure speculation of course.

On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Chao 
> wrote:

I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been 
great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden 
> wrote:
Hello,

The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.

The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
range of a device that they are already paired with.

In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
all devices using the sane iCloud account.

If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.

Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
though there is no mention of price yet.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and wireless 
AirPods when using VoiceOver.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin 
> wrote:
ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is the 
underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 chip.  
So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 processor?  
Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned though so wondering how it 
works.  I was under the impression that the wireless connection itself was over 
a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.



On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 as 
well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?

Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.


Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, 
apple.co.nz shows them as being around 250 dollars when 
they are released.

Bloody cool though.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Kevin Chao]

W1 Chip still has lag :(
Based on below excerpt, latency in w1 chip is less than most Bluetooth, but
latency /= 0 ms | /= Wired connection.
"... a RemoteTalk headphone cable with 3.5mm headphone jacks ...  This,
effectively, allows you to turn your Beats Solo3 Wireless Headphones into a
pair of Beats Solo3 Wired Headphones. This is great for those times ... for
other occasions, such as low latency podcast monitoring (latency is
significantly less than most Bluetooth headphones, yet it’s still
discernible.)"
https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/15/hands-on-beats-solo3-wireless-the-first-available-headphones-featuring-apples-new-w1-chip-video/

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM Scott Granados  wrote:

> I think it all depends on when things get sourced, parts are finished and
> assembly takes place.  Apple likes to build up a big supply before they let
> something go.  You have a very good point I just figure something in the
> supply chain held something up and they didn’t want to stall on the phone.
>
> Pure speculation of course.
>
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been
> great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
>
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending
> on whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with
> non-Apple bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the
> charging case. Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if
> they are not in range of a device that they are already paired with.
>
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair
> with all devices using the sane iCloud account.
>
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a
> pair.
>
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement
> units, though there is no mention of price yet.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:
>
> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate
> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>
> I don’t see how this works though.
>
> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth
> is the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this
> W1 chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no
> W1 processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for
> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned
> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the
> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not
> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS
> 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other
> devices?
>
>
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>
>
>
> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows
> them as being around 250 dollars when they are released.
>
> Bloody cool though.
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ]*On
> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via <
> viph...@googlegroups.com >
> *Subject:* AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>
>
> *Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your
> iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new
> iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome *Macworld
> /  Susie Ochs
>
>
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I
> really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on
> Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods
> stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

I think it all depends on when things get sourced, parts are finished and 
assembly takes place.  Apple likes to build up a big supply before they let 
something go.  You have a very good point I just figure something in the supply 
chain held something up and they didn’t want to stall on the phone.

Pure speculation of course.

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been 
> great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden  > wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
> 
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
> whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
> bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
> Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
> range of a device that they are already paired with.
> 
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
> all devices using the sane iCloud account.
> 
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.
> 
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
> though there is no mention of price yet. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
>> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
>> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
>> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and 
>> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin > > wrote:
>> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate 
>> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
>> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>>> I don’t see how this works though.
>>> 
>>> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is 
>>> the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 
>>> chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 
>>> processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for 
>>> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned 
>>> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the 
>>> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not 
>>> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
 hang On,
 so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
 and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 
 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other 
 devices?
  
>> 
 Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>> 
 
  
 Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz 
  shows them as being around 250 dollars when they are 
 released.
  
 Bloody cool though.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  [ 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 
  >
 Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
  
 Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your 
 iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new 
 iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
 Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
 
 
>> 
 I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I 
 really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event 
 on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the 
 AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With convvenient features 
 on both the hardware and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s 
 totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
 
 When they’re in your ears, the AirPods 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

Looks like they work with non apple devices also.

Very cool.

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I was talking to ssomeone at apple today about these and asked them if they 
> worked on the earlier devices such as 6 and 6s range,
>  
> Seemingly the w1 chip in the pods works with the iPhone 7 but works with / 
> beside standard Bluetooth,
>  
> If your phone is an earlier device then the pods will use BT by pressing the 
> pairing button on the charging case, if you have the 7 or 7Plus then  you t 
> ap the pods on the screan of the phone and it pairs 
>  
> The apple person couldn’t be sure but believed the phone does have the w1 
> chip in it to allow for this pairing type to happen.
>  
> There are a few features that the 7 will utilise from the pods where as the 
> earlier phones / devices wont be able to.
> But until such time as they are released they wont have more information.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 3:14 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been 
> great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.
>  
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden  > wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
>  
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
> whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
> bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
> Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
> range of a device that they are already paired with.
>  
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
> all devices using the sane iCloud account.
>  
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.
>  
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
> though there is no mention of price yet. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and 
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>  
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  > wrote:
> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
> ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
> 
> I don’t see how this works though.
> 
> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is 
> the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 
> chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 
> processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for 
> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned 
> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the 
> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth. 
>  Would love to be wrong on that.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 
> as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?
>  
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
> 
>  
> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz 
>  shows them as being around 250 dollars when they are 
> released.
>  
> Bloody cool though.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ]On Behalf OfMary Otten
> Sent:Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; 
> VIPhone 'RobH. ' via   >
> Subject:AirPods hands-on: They stayed in 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi david. I knew that. Which is why i knew u would understand the h ref. As 
for going to oz. understandable. Wi look that myself in december when in 
melbourne

Sent from my iPhone 6S+

On 12/09/2016, at 6:33 PM, David Chittenden 
> wrote:

Simon, I also live in NZ. Fortunately, I go to Australia regularly, so will go 
to the local Apple Store over there and get a hands-on from an Apple rep after 
they are released.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Sep 2016, at 16:19, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

David,

Good luck getting to try before you buy, I’ve never managed to do this with bt 
headsets as they think it’s a H issue.

Mind you tha’ts only here in nz  things might be different in that country you 
live in!



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 3:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Hello,

The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.

The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
range of a device that they are already paired with.

In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
all devices using the sane iCloud account.

If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.

Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
though there is no mention of price yet.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and wireless 
AirPods when using VoiceOver.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin 
> wrote:
ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is the 
underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 chip.  
So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 processor?  
Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned though so wondering how it 
works.  I was under the impression that the wireless connection itself was over 
a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.



On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 as 
well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?

Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.


Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, 
apple.co.nz shows them as being around 250 dollars when 
they are released.

Bloody cool though.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
VIPhone 'RobH. ' via  
>
Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs

I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, 
I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With convvenient 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[David Chittenden]

Simon, I also live in NZ. Fortunately, I go to Australia regularly, so will go 
to the local Apple Store over there and get a hands-on from an Apple rep after 
they are released.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 16:19, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> David,
>  
> Good luck getting to try before you buy, I’ve never managed to do this with 
> bt headsets as they think it’s a H issue.
>  
> Mind you tha’ts only here in nz  things might be different in that country 
> you live in!
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 3:10 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> Hello,
>  
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
>  
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
> whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
> bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
> Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
> range of a device that they are already paired with.
>  
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
> all devices using the sane iCloud account.
>  
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.
>  
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
> though there is no mention of price yet. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and 
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>  
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:
> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
> ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
> 
> I don’t see how this works though.
> 
> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is 
> the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 
> chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 
> processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for 
> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned 
> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the 
> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth. 
>  Would love to be wrong on that.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 
> as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?
>  
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
> 
>  
> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows them 
> as being around 250 dollars when they are released.
>  
> Bloody cool though.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 
> 
> Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
> 
> 
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on 
> area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing 
> along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly 
> secure. With convvenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I 
> have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
> 
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
> just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
> white plastic.
> 
> Now, that plastic has been a 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

David,

Good luck getting to try before you buy, I’ve never managed to do this with bt 
headsets as they think it’s a H issue.

Mind you tha’ts only here in nz  things might be different in that country you 
live in!



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 3:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Hello,

The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.

The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
range of a device that they are already paired with.

In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
all devices using the sane iCloud account.

If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.

Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
though there is no mention of price yet.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and wireless 
AirPods when using VoiceOver.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin 
> wrote:
ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is the 
underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 chip.  
So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 processor?  
Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned though so wondering how it 
works.  I was under the impression that the wireless connection itself was over 
a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.



On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 as 
well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?

Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.


Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, 
apple.co.nz shows them as being around 250 dollars when 
they are released.

Bloody cool though.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
VIPhone 'RobH. ' via  
>
Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs

I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, 
I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With convvenient features on both the hardware and 
software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of 
rocked my world.

When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
white plastic.

Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
EarPods feel iin my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, 
and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
experience the same pain when 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

I was talking to ssomeone at apple today about these and asked them if they 
worked on the earlier devices such as 6 and 6s range,

Seemingly the w1 chip in the pods works with the iPhone 7 but works with / 
beside standard Bluetooth,

If your phone is an earlier device then the pods will use BT by pressing the 
pairing button on the charging case, if you have the 7 or 7Plus then  you t ap 
the pods on the screan of the phone and it pairs

The apple person couldn’t be sure but believed the phone does have the w1 chip 
in it to allow for this pairing type to happen.

There are a few features that the 7 will utilise from the pods where as the 
earlier phones / devices wont be able to.
But until such time as they are released they wont have more information.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 3:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been 
great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden 
> wrote:
Hello,

The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.

The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
range of a device that they are already paired with.

In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
all devices using the sane iCloud account.

If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.

Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
though there is no mention of price yet.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao 
> wrote:
Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and wireless 
AirPods when using VoiceOver.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin 
> wrote:
ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices 
... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is the 
underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 chip.  
So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 processor?  
Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned though so wondering how it 
works.  I was under the impression that the wireless connection itself was over 
a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.



On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 as 
well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?

Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.


Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, 
apple.co.nz shows them as being around 250 dollars when 
they are released.

Bloody cool though.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
VIPhone 'RobH. ' via  
>
Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs

I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, 
I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Kevin Chao]

I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been
great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an
> additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the
> audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
>
> The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending
> on whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with
> non-Apple bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the
> charging case. Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if
> they are not in range of a device that they are already paired with.
>
> In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair
> with all devices using the sane iCloud account.
>
> If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a
> pair.
>
> Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement
> units, though there is no mention of price yet.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:
>
>> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate
>> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
>> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>>
>> I don’t see how this works though.
>>
>> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth
>> is the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this
>> W1 chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no
>> W1 processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for
>> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned
>> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the
>> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not
>> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> hang On,
>> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
>> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS
>> 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other
>> devices?
>>
>>
>> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>>
>>
>>
>> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows
>> them as being around 250 dollars when they are released.
>>
>> Bloody cool though.
>>
>> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ]*On
>> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via <
>> viph...@googlegroups.com >
>> *Subject:* AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>>
>>
>> *Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your
>> iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new
>> iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome 
>> *Macworld
>> /  Susie Ochs
>>
>>
>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I
>> really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on
>> Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods
>> stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With convvenient features on both
>> the hardware and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s
>> totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
>>
>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired
>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your
>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe.
>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard
>> white plastic.
>>
>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how
>> normal EarPods feel iin my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to
>> stay put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they
>> do stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I
>> don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam
>> tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same
>> too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wroong.
>>
>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[David Chittenden]

Hello,

The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an 
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the 
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.

The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on 
whether they are in one ear or both ears. They can be paired with non-Apple 
bluetooth devices. They are paired to devices whilst in the charging case. 
Apparently, opening the case activates the paring system if they are not in 
range of a device that they are already paired with.

In the Apple ecosystem, pairing with one device will automatically pair with 
all devices using the sane iCloud account.

If they stay in my ears, and are comfortable, I am definitely getting a pair.

Oh, and if one is lost, apparently Apple will sell single replacement units, 
though there is no mention of price yet. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 13:11, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio 
> devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
> i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and 
> wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:
>> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate 
>> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
>> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>>> I don’t see how this works though.
>>> 
>>> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is 
>>> the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 
>>> chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 
>>> processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for 
>>> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned 
>>> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the 
>>> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not 
>>> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 hang On,
 so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
 and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 
 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other 
 devices?
  
>> 
 Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>> 
 
  
 Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows 
 them as being around 250 dollars when they are released.
  
 Bloody cool though.
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 
 
 Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
  
 Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your 
 iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new 
 iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
 Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
 
 
>> 
 I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the 
 hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself 
 dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling 
 surprisingly secure. With convvenient features on both the hardware and 
 software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
 kind of rocked my world.
 
 When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
 EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
 ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your 
 earlobe. They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the 
 same hard white plastic.
 
 Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how 
 normal EarPods feel iin my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to 
 stay put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if 
 they do stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, 
 although I don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with 
 silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them 
 to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was 
 dead wroong.
 
 Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
 my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The 
 AirPods stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Kevin Chao]

Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and
wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin  wrote:

> ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & Would ONLY Operate
> AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel
> At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:
>
> I don’t see how this works though.
>
> The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth
> is the underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this
> W1 chip.  So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no
> W1 processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for
> compatibility across the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned
> though so wondering how it works.  I was under the impression that the
> wireless connection itself was over a proprietary protocol and not
> bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS
> 10 as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other
> devices?
>
>
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>
>
>
> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows
> them as being around 250 dollars when they are released.
>
> Bloody cool though.
>
> *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ]*On
> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via <
> viph...@googlegroups.com >
> *Subject:* AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>
>
> *Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your
> iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new
> iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome *Macworld
> /  Susie Ochs
>
>
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I
> really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on
> Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods
> stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With convvenient features on both
> the hardware and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s
> totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
>
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your
> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe.
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard
> white plastic.
>
> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how
> normal EarPods feel iin my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to
> stay put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they
> do stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I
> don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam
> tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same
> too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wroong.
>
> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed
> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods
> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded
> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was
> saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll.
> Pretty impressive.
>
> *For Apple devices only*
>
> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though
> that specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need
> a brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple
> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and
> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be
> a way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have
> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into
> pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it
> seems like the AirPods will only be “seen†by Apple devices.
>
>
> Susie Ochs
>
> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them
> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
>
> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like
> the most hhigh-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your
> nnearby iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t
> have to do this 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Robin]

ThisChip W1Chip could Solely BelongTo Apple & 
Would ONLY Operate AppleDevices ... Apple's BlueTooth Channel

At 06:00 AM 9/9/2016, you wrote:

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I 
don’t know if bluetooth is the underlying 
wireless protocol but none of the other devices 
have this W1 chip.  So how will my EarPods talk 
to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 
processor?  Must be some sort of bluetooth 
support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t 
mentioned though so wondering how it works.  I 
was under the impression that the wireless 
connection itself was over a proprietary 
protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.



On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:


hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and 
iPods are all running IOS 10 as well, these 
pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?


Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.

Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods 
though, apple.co.nz shows 
them as being around 250 dollars when they are released.


Bloody cool though.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten

Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 
VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 
<viph...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Here is some more on the air pods. They will 
work with your Mac or your iPad or other 
iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud 
as your new iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They 
stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Macworld  /  Susie Ochs


I didn’t want to like the 
AirPods, I 
really didn’t. But in the hands-on area after 
Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found 
myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the 
AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly 
secure. With convvenient features on both the 
hardware and software sides, I have to admit 
that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.


When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind 
of look like the old wired EarPods that someone 
snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills 
your ear just as before, and a plastic stem 
hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re 
the same general shape as the EarPods and made 
from the same hard white plastic.


Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for 
me for years—I hate how normal EarPods feel iin 
my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going 
to stay put, and they simply fall out if I move 
my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
after about a half hour, my ears just start to 
ache, although I don’t experience the same 
pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam 
tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I 
expected them to feel the same too—and I’m 
surprised and happy to report that I was dead wroong.


Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my 
head side to side, I tossed my hair, I jogged 
in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. 
The AirPods stayed put, and they stayed loud. 
The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full 
and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word 
anyone around me was saying, as if I was 
completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.



For Apple devices only



The AirPods’ special features are pretty 
impressive too, even though that specialness 
means they only work with Apple devices. You 
don’t need a brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch 
to use them, but they only support Apple 
devices running the latest operating systems: 
iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The 
AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe 
there’d be a way to pair them to an Android 
phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the 
AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll 
test to confirm when we get review units, but 
it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen† by Apple devices.

Susie Ochs

When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired 
iPhone will play to them automatically. See the little AirPods icon?


When you first flip open the glossy white 
carrying box—which looks like the most 
hhigh-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a 
screen on your nnearby iPhone offering to pair. 
(That’s just the first time; you won’t have 
to do this every time you want to use the 
AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your 
iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch 
that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with 
any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same 
iCloud account. I didn’t 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[wayne]

hello no the pods have the w1 chip in them not the phone



On 9/9/2016 9:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
No, in the iPhone itself there’s a W1 processor from what I 
understand.  It’s a separate dye from the communications chip for 
networking.  Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s what I took home from 
the keynote.


On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart 
of the airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1 chip to 
connect to the pods,

Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*Mary Otten

*Sent:*Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded 
awesome


All I know is what I read in the article.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados > wrote:


How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?
 Do they also support bluetooth?

On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:
*Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your
Mac or your iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the
same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed
in my ears and sounded awesome*
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs


I didn’t want to like theAirPods
, I really didn’t. But in the
hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I
found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods
stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient
features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to
admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my
world.
When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the
old wired EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The
earbud part fills your ear just as before, and a plastic stem
hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the same general
shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.
Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I
hate how normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like
they’re going to stay put, and they simply fall out if I move
my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after about a half
hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience
the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips.
Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel
the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was
dead wrong.
Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to
side, I tossed my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly
doing all of it. The AirPods stayed put, and they stayed
loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and lush
and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was
saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock
and roll. Pretty impressive.


For Apple devices only

The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even
though that specialness means they only work with Apple
devices. You don’t need a brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to
use them, but they only support Apple devices running the
latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS
3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe
there’d be a way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8
device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no button
on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to
confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the
AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
Susie Ochs
When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will
play to them automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which
looks like the most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see
a screen on your nearby iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just
the first time; you won’t have to do this every time you want
to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone,
you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your
iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to
the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it
is to switch between 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Terje Strømberg]

Bluetooth. Have read that there is no pairing button. May be right that there 
is one pairing button on the airbuds case. Is W1 chip the one that is in the 
airbuds and beats headphones?

Take care

> 9. sep. 2016 kl. 15.53 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Did a little more reading on this.
> 
> Seems the W1 is used in the phone and the pods and your dead on traditional 
> bluetooth is supported. We’ll also be seeing this chip appear in other 
> devices it looks like.
> 
> I’m all for Apple stepping up it’s bluetooth game, this has been a weak area.
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott. No, you're incorrect. The iPhone itself does not have the W one 
>> chip, that is in the air pots. It uses iCloud to propagate the set up of the 
>> air pots to your phone and your watch to other Apple devices running iOS 10, 
>> or OS X sierra. Also that includes watchOS 3. It does have standard 
>> Bluetooth pairing, which means you can. With non-Apple devices with the 
>> pairing button that's on the air pots case.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, in the iPhone itself there’s a W1 processor from what I understand.  
>>> It’s a separate dye from the communications chip for networking.  Correct 
>>> me if I’m wrong but that’s what I took home from the keynote.
>>> 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart of the 
 airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1  chip to connect to the 
 pods,
  
 Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
  
 All I know is what I read in the article.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they 
 also support bluetooth?
  
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
  
 Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your 
 iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new 
 iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
 Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
 
 
 I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on 
 area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing 
 along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly 
 secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, 
 I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my 
 world.
 When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
 EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
 ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your 
 earlobe. They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the 
 same hard white plastic.
 Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how 
 normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay 
 put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do 
 stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I 
 don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam 
 tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same 
 too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
 Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
 my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The 
 AirPods stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) 
 sounded full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me 
 was saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and 
 roll. Pretty impressive.
 For Apple devices only
 
 The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
 specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
 brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
 devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
 watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be 
 a way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
 Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into 
 pairing 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

Did a little more reading on this.

Seems the W1 is used in the phone and the pods and your dead on traditional 
bluetooth is supported. We’ll also be seeing this chip appear in other devices 
it looks like.

I’m all for Apple stepping up it’s bluetooth game, this has been a weak area.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott. No, you're incorrect. The iPhone itself does not have the W one 
> chip, that is in the air pots. It uses iCloud to propagate the set up of the 
> air pots to your phone and your watch to other Apple devices running iOS 10, 
> or OS X sierra. Also that includes watchOS 3. It does have standard Bluetooth 
> pairing, which means you can. With non-Apple devices with the pairing button 
> that's on the air pots case.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> No, in the iPhone itself there’s a W1 processor from what I understand.  
>> It’s a separate dye from the communications chip for networking.  Correct me 
>> if I’m wrong but that’s what I took home from the keynote.
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart of the 
>>> airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1  chip to connect to the 
>>> pods,
>>>  
>>> Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>>>  
>>> All I know is what I read in the article.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they 
>>> also support bluetooth?
>>>  
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your 
>>> iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new 
>>> iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>>> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
>>> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, 
>>> I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
>>> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
>>> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
>>> kind of rocked my world.
>>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
>>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
>>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
>>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
>>> white plastic.
>>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how 
>>> normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay 
>>> put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do 
>>> stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I 
>>> don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam 
>>> tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same 
>>> too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
>>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
>>> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
>>> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
>>> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was 
>>> saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. 
>>> Pretty impressive.
>>> For Apple devices only
>>> 
>>> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
>>> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
>>> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
>>> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
>>> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
>>> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
>>> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into 
>>> pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems 
>>> 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Scott. No, you're incorrect. The iPhone itself does not have the W one chip, 
that is in the air pots. It uses iCloud to propagate the set up of the air pots 
to your phone and your watch to other Apple devices running iOS 10, or OS X 
sierra. Also that includes watchOS 3. It does have standard Bluetooth pairing, 
which means you can. With non-Apple devices with the pairing button that's on 
the air pots case.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> No, in the iPhone itself there’s a W1 processor from what I understand.  It’s 
> a separate dye from the communications chip for networking.  Correct me if 
> I’m wrong but that’s what I took home from the keynote.
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart of the 
>> airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1  chip to connect to the 
>> pods,
>>  
>> Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>>  
>> All I know is what I read in the article.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
>> support bluetooth?
>>  
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>  
>> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
>> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
>> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
>> 
>> 
>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on area 
>> after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in 
>> spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. 
>> With convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to 
>> admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
>> white plastic.
>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
>> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
>> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
>> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
>> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. 
>> Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and 
>> I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
>> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
>> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
>> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
>> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
>> impressive.
>> For Apple devices only
>> 
>> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
>> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
>> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
>> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
>> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
>> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
>> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
>> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
>> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
>> Susie Ochs
>> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
>> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
>> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
>> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby 
>> iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do 
>> this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to 
>> your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your 
>> iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud 
>> account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, 
>> but the idea 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

The edge is pretty old, I don’t think it will be as good.  I forget which 
bluetooth spec it speaks, time to hit google and see if I can be more helpful 
here.

Looks like the 5220 speaks a newer revision of bluetooth.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
>  
> I’m still getting delay and routing issues between my 6s+ running 10 beta and 
> my Plantronics voyager edge.
>  
> Although I haven’t yet seen a possible update for the edge firmware.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:13 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> I wonder how that works.  To bad they aren’t out next week.
>  
> We shall see I just don’t understand how they connect unless they also 
> support bluetooth which would be cool for folks with the older devices.
>  
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> All I know is what I read in the article.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
> support bluetooth?
>  
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
> 
> 
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
> found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
> kind of rocked my world.
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
> just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
> white plastic.
> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since 
> the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m 
> surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
> hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
> impressive.
> For Apple devices only
> 
> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
> Susie Ochs
> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
> offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this 
> every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your 
> iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, 
> as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. 
> I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the 
> idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

No, in the iPhone itself there’s a W1 processor from what I understand.  It’s a 
separate dye from the communications chip for networking.  Correct me if I’m 
wrong but that’s what I took home from the keynote.

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:22 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart of the 
> airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1  chip to connect to the 
> pods,
>  
> Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> All I know is what I read in the article.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
> support bluetooth?
>  
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
>  
> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
> 
> 
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
> found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
> kind of rocked my world.
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
> just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
> white plastic.
> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since 
> the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m 
> surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
> hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
> impressive.
> For Apple devices only
> 
> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
> Susie Ochs
> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
> offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this 
> every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your 
> iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, 
> as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. 
> I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the 
> idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on 
> your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.
> Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
> not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
> They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
> on/off switch, 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

I don’t see how this works though.

The iPhone has a specific W1 chip included.  I don’t know if bluetooth is the 
underlying wireless protocol but none of the other devices have this W1 chip.  
So how will my EarPods talk to my iPad air2 for example with no W1 processor?  
Must be some sort of bluetooth support under the hood for compatibility across 
the product line like that.  It wasn’t mentioned though so wondering how it 
works.  I was under the impression that the wireless connection itself was over 
a proprietary protocol and not bluetooth.  Would love to be wrong on that.


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> hang On,
> so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
> and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 
> as well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?
>  
> Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.
>  
> Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz 
>  shows them as being around 250 dollars when they are 
> released.
>  
> Bloody cool though.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ]On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; 
> VIPhone 'RobH. ' via  >
> Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>  
> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
> 
> 
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
> found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
> kind of rocked my world.
> 
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
> just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
> white plastic.
> 
> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since 
> the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m 
> surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
> 
> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
> hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
> impressive.
> 
> For Apple devices only
> 
> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
> 
> Susie Ochs
> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
> 
> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
> offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this 
> every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your 
> iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, 
> as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. 
> I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the 
> idea is, you can pause music on your 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

I’m still getting delay and routing issues between my 6s+ running 10 beta and 
my Plantronics voyager edge.

Although I haven’t yet seen a possible update for the edge firmware.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

I wonder how that works.  To bad they aren’t out next week.

We shall see I just don’t understand how they connect unless they also support 
bluetooth which would be cool for folks with the older devices.

On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

All I know is what I read in the article.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
support bluetooth?

On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs


I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and 
software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of 
rocked my world.
When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired EarPods 
that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear just as 
before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the 
same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.
Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after 
about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience the 
same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look 
so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to 
report that I was dead wrong.
Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods stayed 
put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and 
lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, as if I was 
completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.
For Apple devices only
The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a brand-new 
iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple devices running 
the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods 
use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an 
Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no 
button on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when 
we get review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple 
devices.
[Image removed by sender. airpods playback]Susie Ochs
When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this every 
time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone, you 
can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with 
any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to 
test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the idea is, you can 
pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and 
the AirPods will just switch.
Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, and 
no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your 
music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out your 
iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

I thought from the keynote yesterday that the w1 chip was the heart of the 
airpods not that the phoes / devices neede the w1  chip to connect to the pods,

Guess we findout when they are released in about 6 weeks.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 11:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

All I know is what I read in the article.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
support bluetooth?

On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs


I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and 
software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of 
rocked my world.
When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired EarPods 
that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear just as 
before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the 
same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.
Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after 
about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience the 
same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look 
so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to 
report that I was dead wrong.
Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods stayed 
put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and 
lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, as if I was 
completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.
For Apple devices only
The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a brand-new 
iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple devices running 
the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods 
use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an 
Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no 
button on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when 
we get review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple 
devices.
[Image removed by sender. airpods playback]Susie Ochs
When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this every 
time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone, you 
can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with 
any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to 
test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the idea is, you can 
pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and 
the AirPods will just switch.
Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, and 
no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your 
music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out your 
iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just having 
volume controls built in.
Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby who 
has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is 

RE: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Simon Fogarty]

hang On,
so if I pair these pods to my iPhone 6s+ which is running IOS 10,
and if my watch is running OS3 and my iPad and iPods are all running IOS 10 as 
well, these pods will automatically be picked up by those other devices?

Simply because I’m using my itunes account on all the devices.

Awesome,shame about the NZ price of the pods though, apple.co.nz shows them as 
being around 250 dollars when they are released.

Bloody cool though.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; VIPhone 'RobH. ' via 

Subject: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs



I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really 
didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware and 
software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of 
rocked my world.

When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired EarPods 
that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear just as 
before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the 
same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.

Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after 
about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience the 
same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look 
so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to 
report that I was dead wrong.

Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods stayed 
put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and 
lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, as if I was 
completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.

For Apple devices only

The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a brand-new 
iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple devices running 
the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods 
use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an 
Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no 
button on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when 
we get review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple 
devices.
[Image removed by sender. airpods playback]Susie Ochs

When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
automatically. See the little AirPods icon?

When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this every 
time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone, you 
can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with 
any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to 
test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the idea is, you can 
pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and 
the AirPods will just switch.

Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, and 
no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your 
music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out your 
iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just having 
volume controls built in.

Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby who 
has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is incredibly cool—I 
wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t remove both AirPods, or 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Dan]

Hello,
>From everything I've read and from the keynote address, the chip is in the 
>Airpods. Also, from other things I've read the Airpods will work on all the 
>latest apple OSs.
Also, the will work through your iCloud account. In one place, it was mentioned 
that as long as the os be it OS X iOS or Apple TV OS, because it's based on 
working on your account and the latest OSs, it will work on items like the 
iPhone 6 series and the iPhone 5se and ipads.
Again, this is just from the different things I've read on the web and 
different reviews from those who claim to have used the airpods.
 Of course, in a few weeks, we'll all know.

Dan

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
> support bluetooth?
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
>> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
>> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
>> 
>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on area 
>> after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in 
>> spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. 
>> With convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to 
>> admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
>> 
>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
>> white plastic.
>> 
>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
>> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
>> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
>> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
>> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. 
>> Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and 
>> I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
>> 
>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
>> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
>> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
>> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
>> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
>> impressive.
>> 
>> For Apple devices only
>> 
>> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
>> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
>> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
>> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
>> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
>> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
>> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
>> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
>> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
>> 
>> Susie Ochs
>> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
>> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
>> 
>> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
>> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby 
>> iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do 
>> this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to 
>> your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your 
>> iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud 
>> account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, 
>> but the idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs 
>> stored on your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.
>> 
>> Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
>> not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke 
>> Siri. They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth 
>> headphones: No on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or 
>> call-answering buttons, and no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap 
>> to get Siri—this pauses your music, but you can at least say “turn up the 
>> volume” without fishing out your iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a 
>> lot more awkward than just having volume controls built in.
>> 
>> Removing one 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

I wonder how that works.  To bad they aren’t out next week.

We shall see I just don’t understand how they connect unless they also support 
bluetooth which would be cool for folks with the older devices.

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> All I know is what I read in the article.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
>> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
>> support bluetooth?
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your 
>>> iPad or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new 
>>> iPhone  AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>>> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
>>> 
>>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
>>> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, 
>>> I found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
>>> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
>>> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
>>> kind of rocked my world.
>>> 
>>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
>>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
>>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
>>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
>>> white plastic.
>>> 
>>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how 
>>> normal EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay 
>>> put, and they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do 
>>> stay in, after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I 
>>> don’t experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam 
>>> tips. Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same 
>>> too—and I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
>>> 
>>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
>>> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
>>> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
>>> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was 
>>> saying, as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. 
>>> Pretty impressive.
>>> 
>>> For Apple devices only
>>> 
>>> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
>>> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
>>> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
>>> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
>>> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
>>> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
>>> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into 
>>> pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems 
>>> like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
>>> 
>>> Susie Ochs
>>> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
>>> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
>>> 
>>> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
>>> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby 
>>> iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do 
>>> this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to 
>>> your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your 
>>> iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same 
>>> iCloud account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between 
>>> devices, but the idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing 
>>> songs stored on your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.
>>> 
>>> Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
>>> not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke 
>>> Siri. They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth 
>>> headphones: No on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or 
>>> call-answering buttons, and no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap 
>>> to get Siri—this pauses your music, but you can at least say “turn up the 
>>> volume” without fishing out your iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s 
>>> a lot more awkward than just having volume controls built in.
>>> 
>>> Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
>>> pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Mary Otten]

All I know is what I read in the article.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
> support bluetooth?
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
>> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
>> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
>> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
>> 
>> I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on area 
>> after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in 
>> spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. 
>> With convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to 
>> admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.
>> 
>> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
>> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your 
>> ear just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
>> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
>> white plastic.
>> 
>> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
>> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
>> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
>> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
>> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. 
>> Since the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and 
>> I’m surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
>> 
>> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed 
>> my hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
>> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
>> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
>> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
>> impressive.
>> 
>> For Apple devices only
>> 
>> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
>> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
>> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
>> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
>> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
>> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
>> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
>> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
>> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
>> 
>> Susie Ochs
>> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
>> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
>> 
>> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
>> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby 
>> iPhone offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do 
>> this every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to 
>> your iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your 
>> iPhone, as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud 
>> account. I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, 
>> but the idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs 
>> stored on your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.
>> 
>> Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
>> not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke 
>> Siri. They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth 
>> headphones: No on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or 
>> call-answering buttons, and no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap 
>> to get Siri—this pauses your music, but you can at least say “turn up the 
>> volume” without fishing out your iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a 
>> lot more awkward than just having volume controls built in.
>> 
>> Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
>> pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby 
>> who has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is incredibly 
>> cool—I wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t remove both AirPods, or 
>> the audio playback will automatically switch back to your iPhone’s speakers, 
>> leaving you scrambling to pause it.
>> 
>> Power to go
>> 
>> The charging case is pretty neat on its own, too. It’s got a Lightning port 
>> in the back, and you can charge just the case on its 

Re: AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Scott Granados]

How will they work with out the W1 chip say in my iPad or Mac?  Do they also 
support bluetooth?

> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad 
> or other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  
> AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
> Macworld  /  Susie Ochs
> 
> I didn’t want to like the AirPods , I really 
> didn’t. But in the hands-on area after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I 
> found myself dancing along in spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, 
> feeling surprisingly secure. With convenient features on both the hardware 
> and software sides, I have to admit that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods 
> kind of rocked my world.
> 
> When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired 
> EarPods that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear 
> just as before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. 
> They’re the same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard 
> white plastic.
> 
> Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
> EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
> they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, 
> after about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t 
> experience the same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since 
> the AirPods look so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m 
> surprised and happy to report that I was dead wrong.
> 
> Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
> hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods 
> stayed put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded 
> full and lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, 
> as if I was completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty 
> impressive.
> 
> For Apple devices only
> 
> The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
> specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a 
> brand-new iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple 
> devices running the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and 
> watchOS 3. The AirPods use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a 
> way to pair them to an Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have 
> Bluetooth too, but there’s no button on the AirPods to put them into pairing 
> mode. We’ll test to confirm when we get review units, but it seems like the 
> AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple devices.
> 
> Susie Ochs
> When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
> automatically. See the little AirPods icon?
> 
> When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
> most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
> offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this 
> every time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your 
> iPhone, you can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, 
> as well as with any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. 
> I didn’t get to test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the 
> idea is, you can pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on 
> your Apple Watch, and the AirPods will just switch.
> 
> Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
> not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
> They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
> on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, 
> and no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses 
> your music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out 
> your iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just 
> having volume controls built in.
> 
> Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
> pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby 
> who has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is incredibly 
> cool—I wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t remove both AirPods, or 
> the audio playback will automatically switch back to your iPhone’s speakers, 
> leaving you scrambling to pause it.
> 
> Power to go
> 
> The charging case is pretty neat on its own, too. It’s got a Lightning port 
> in the back, and you can charge just the case on its own or the AirPods 
> inside the case. That’s right—while the AirPods themselves get about 5 hours 
> of playback per charge, according to Apple, the case has a battery, so you 
> can top off on the 

AirPods hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome

[Mary Otten]

Here is some more on the air pods. They will work with your Mac or your iPad or 
other iPhones that are logged in to the same iCloud as your new iPhone  AirPods 
hands-on: They stayed in my ears and sounded awesome
Macworld  /  Susie Ochs

I didn’t want to like the AirPods, I really didn’t. But in the hands-on area 
after Apple’s iPhone 7 event on Wednesday, I found myself dancing along in 
spite of myself—and the AirPods stayed put, feeling surprisingly secure. With 
convenient features on both the hardware and software sides, I have to admit 
that Apple’s totally-wireless AirPods kind of rocked my world.

When they’re in your ears, the AirPods kind of look like the old wired EarPods 
that someone snipped the wires off of. The earbud part fills your ear just as 
before, and a plastic stem hangs down a bit below your earlobe. They’re the 
same general shape as the EarPods and made from the same hard white plastic.

Now, that plastic has been a deal-breaker for me for years—I hate how normal 
EarPods feel in my ears. They don’t seem like they’re going to stay put, and 
they simply fall out if I move my head too much. Even if they do stay in, after 
about a half hour, my ears just start to ache, although I don’t experience the 
same pain when using earbuds with silicone or foam tips. Since the AirPods look 
so similar, I expected them to feel the same too—and I’m surprised and happy to 
report that I was dead wrong.

Not only did I dance, I headbanged. I shook my head side to side, I tossed my 
hair, I jogged in place, and I looked silly doing all of it. The AirPods stayed 
put, and they stayed loud. The music (more Sia, naturally) sounded full and 
lush and I couldn’t hear a single word anyone around me was saying, as if I was 
completely sealed off in a bubble of rock and roll. Pretty impressive.

For Apple devices only

The AirPods’ special features are pretty impressive too, even though that 
specialness means they only work with Apple devices. You don’t need a brand-new 
iPhone or Apple Watch to use them, but they only support Apple devices running 
the latest operating systems: iOS 10, macOS Sierra, and watchOS 3. The AirPods 
use Bluetooth, so you would think maybe there’d be a way to pair them to an 
Android phone or an iOS 8 device since those have Bluetooth too, but there’s no 
button on the AirPods to put them into pairing mode. We’ll test to confirm when 
we get review units, but it seems like the AirPods will only be “seen” by Apple 
devices.

Susie Ochs
When the AirPods are in your ears, your paired iPhone will play to them 
automatically. See the little AirPods icon?

When you first flip open the glossy white carrying box—which looks like the 
most high-tech pack of TicTacs ever—you’ll see a screen on your nearby iPhone 
offering to pair. (That’s just the first time; you won’t have to do this every 
time you want to use the AirPods.) Once you’ve paired them to your iPhone, you 
can also use them the Apple Watch that’s paired to your iPhone, as well as with 
any iPad and Mac that’s signed in to the same iCloud account. I didn’t get to 
test how seamless it is to switch between devices, but the idea is, you can 
pause music on your iPhone, start playing songs stored on your Apple Watch, and 
the AirPods will just switch.

Each AirPod has infrared sensors, so they know when they’re in your ears or 
not, and an accelerometer so you can double-tap either AirPod to invoke Siri. 
They don’t have any traditional buttons, unlike some Bluetooth headphones: No 
on/off switch, no pairing button, no play/pause or call-answering buttons, and 
no volume controls. Instead, you can double-tap to get Siri—this pauses your 
music, but you can at least say “turn up the volume” without fishing out your 
iPhone to turn it up on that device. It’s a lot more awkward than just having 
volume controls built in.

Removing one AirPod from your ear while music is playing will automatically 
pause it, perfect for interacting with a cashier, barista, or nosy passerby who 
has questions about your AirPods. The auto-pausing effect is incredibly cool—I 
wish all my headphones did this. Just don’t remove both AirPods, or the audio 
playback will automatically switch back to your iPhone’s speakers, leaving you 
scrambling to pause it.

Power to go

The charging case is pretty neat on its own, too. It’s got a Lightning port in 
the back, and you can charge just the case on its own or the AirPods inside the 
case. That’s right—while the AirPods themselves get about 5 hours of playback 
per charge, according to Apple, the case has a battery, so you can top off on 
the go. The case has enough juice for about 24 hours of playback, Apple says, 
which means you could recharge the AirPods nearly five times before you have to 
plug the case into a power adapter or USB port to recharge. Apple says that 
popping the AirPods into the charging case for 15 minutes will get you another 
3 hours of music—a tiny green LED inside the case lets