Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread Brad Snyder
I have learned that whenever a transaction is declined on my Apple Card, all I 
need to do is open the Wallet app, and go to my Apple Card, and then submit the 
transaction again, and it goes through with no problem.

- Brad -



On Mar 6, 2024, at 14:38, Mary Otten  wrote:

Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a 
notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I 
go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So 
that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other cards. Nothing to do 
with Apple or my phone or anything I did. The damned thieves probably got my 
number someway somewhere but not because I lost a card or saved a card on a 
website or whatever. I never ever save credit card information anywhere Except 
on braille cards that I keep. Nobody reads braille except blind people. Smile. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:41 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread Brad Snyder
ApplePay can be setup using any card, not just an Apple Card.
I have both my Chase VISA and Apple Card, as well as my Chase Debit card setup 
with ApplePay, and all can be accessed on either my watch or iPhone.

- Brad -



On Mar 6, 2024, at 13:19, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at all 
to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some major 
purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that I always 
know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, something I 
have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still recommend the 
Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  

But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use two 
credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for one of 
them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, because both 
frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely courteous and 
professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, 
so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple 
Card in particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase 
never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to 
contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think 
it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded for 
any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go into 
the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing 
the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple 
Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can 
think of.  

I hope this clears it up.  



> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
> notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-12 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Sorry, I think I mis-spoke myself!  It was an issue with the Apple Card.  
Sorry, I just said it wrong.  Anyway I still recommend both.  But I also 
thought it was relevant.  

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 2:42 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Your original post stated it was an ApplePay issue, not an issue with your 
> Apple Card. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:41, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-11 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes I have done that.
It won’t accept my card though but I have no stress in getting it.
/A

> 11 mars 2024 kl. 00:18 skrev  :
> 
> 
> The Apple Store does support Apple Pay. 
> There is a buy with Apple Pay button when making your purchase.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 2:44 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
> 
> Hi!
> Maybe that could be  something to think of.
> Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
> I go round in circles.
> /A
> 
>> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Anders,
>> 
>> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
>> sort of new to all this. :)
>> 
>> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
>> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
>> and using that to make purchases?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, 
>>>> but my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>>> 
>>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>>> experiences. 
>>>> 
>>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>>> again, Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in 
>>>>> particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
>>>>> looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that 
>>>>> Chase never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I 
>>>>> actually had to contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of 
>>>>> weeks and was resolved quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my 
>>>>> Apple Card.  But I do think it is  relevant that their fraud protec

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread lists


The Apple Store does support Apple Pay. 
There is a buy with Apple Pay button when making your purchase.
  
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 2:44 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways t

Re: Apple pay on the Mac

2024-03-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Yes, as long as you have a touch ID sensor on your Max keyboard. If you do not 
have a touch ID sensor on your Mac, you will need to verify using your iPhone 
or an unlocked Apple Watch.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 16:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

when I use Apple Pay on my Mac vo says “processing” and then I hear my phone 
make that process sound and it wants me to touch ID to process. a couple of 
times I wasn’t close enough to my phone to grab it fast enough so it didn’t go 
through. is it possible to use Apple Pay on the Mac without the phone becoming 
involved?

thanks.
Lorie

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Apple pay on the Mac

2024-03-10 Thread Lorie McCloud
when I use Apple Pay on my Mac vo says “processing” and then I hear my phone 
make that process sound and it wants me to touch ID to process. a couple of 
times I wasn’t close enough to my phone to grab it fast enough so it didn’t go 
through. is it possible to use Apple Pay on the Mac without the phone becoming 
involved?

thanks.
Lorie   

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Actually, cash back from your Apple Pay purchases, will go into your Apple Cash 
account, which can be used by Apple Pay.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 13:46, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Apple pay is the collection of cash that builds up from purchases from the 
Apple card.
Apple pay is also using the side button to pay for purchases with what ever 
credit card or debit card you have linked to your wallet.
My Apple pay is linked to my Apple credit card as default payment..
So when I reload my Starbuks gift card, choose Apple pay as the payment method, 
it charges my credit card which is my Apple card in this case.

-Original Message-
From: 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 12:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So,
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and
>>> experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud,
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks
>>> again, Donna
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I ha

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Apple pay is the collection of cash that builds up from purchases from the 
Apple card.
Apple pay is also using the side button to pay for purchases with what ever 
credit card or debit card you have linked to your wallet.
My Apple pay is linked to my Apple credit card as default payment..
So when I reload my Starbuks gift card, choose Apple pay as the payment method, 
it charges my credit card which is my Apple card in this case.

-Original Message-
From: 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 12:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card. 
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the 

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Some of us keep confusing the Apple Card with Apple Pay. Including me, even 
though I technically know the difference. You can use any card with Apple Pay, 
or multiple cards, and you don’t kneed to have an Apple Card. 
Mary Ward

On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences. 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Once again, Apple Pay cannot be used when making purchases from either the iOS 
or Mac App Store.
Purchases from either App Store must be made with the payment method on file in 
your Apple ID.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:43, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>>> 
>&g

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Dave Carlson
Anders,
In your wallet, have you assigned a particular payment type to be your choice 
for Apple Pay?

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Mar 10, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, but there’s a pay with Apple Pay button on my Apple Store.
Bless.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 15:22 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
> It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
>> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
>> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
>> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
>> have those moments and experiences. 
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
>> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>> make me reconsider that. :)
>> Thanks again,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
>>>> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
>>>> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
>>>> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
>>>> appreciate The immediate notificati

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
My default payment is apple pay. Check your payment defaults.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 10:46 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Ok, but there’s a pay with Apple Pay button on my Apple Store.
Bless.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 15:22 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
> It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired 
>> a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment 
>> service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say 
>> they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way 
>> of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>> experiences. 
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when 
>> a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more 
>> likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea 
>> of getting an additional credit card, but the instant notifications 
>> might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks again, Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
>>>> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
>>>> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
>>>> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
>>>> appreciate The 

RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Love Apple pay.. and Apple card.
In ap store buy. Then double tap the side button to accept transaction.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 10:44 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m 
> sort of new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try 
>>> and make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just 
>>> hired a driver in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a 
>>> payment service that I was completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t 
>>> to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase felt risky.  So, 
>>> my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments and 
>>> experiences. 
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you 
>>> when a purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, 
>>> you’re more likely to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really 
>>> like the idea of getting an additional credit card, but the instant 
>>> notifications might be enough to make me reconsider that. :) Thanks 
>>> again, Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways t

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Maybe that could be  something to think of.
Maybe I can’t use the credit card for this.
I go round in circles.
/A

> 7 mars 2024 kl. 14:52 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
> new to all this. :)
> 
> Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
> transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account 
> and using that to make purchases?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
>> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>>> 
>>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and 
>>> make decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver 
>>> in Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but 
>>> making that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, 
>>> we all have those moments and experiences.  
>>> 
>>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting 
>>> an additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>>> make me reconsider that. :)
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention 
>>>> at all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put 
>>>> some major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel 
>>>> confident that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a 
>>>> lot of control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit 
>>>> cards.  I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is 
>>>> amazingly easy.  
>>>> 
>>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with 
>>>> them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that 
>>>> I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly 
>>>> sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my pho

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-08 Thread 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries



On 7/3/24 10:16, Brad Snyder wrote:
This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection 
feature.


I recently enabled stolen device protection. Face ID is working 
reliably, but I did turn off the requirement to look at the device when 
I first set up Face ID.


I've used Apple Pay with Face ID at an ATM instead of a credit/debit 
card. There weren't any problems as far as I can remember.


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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I don't see what this has to do with anything. I put the watch on in the 
morning, and I take it off at night. As long as it stays on my wrist, it 
remains unlocked. I certainly don't use Apple Pay while I'm sleeping. 

- Brad -

On Mar 7, 2024, at 11:29, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Brad:

I want to focus on one phrase in your email: "Unless you take the watch
off for some reason."

How literally do I take that? Do you sleep with it on? Shower?

I cannot see myself playing piano with a watch on. It never worked in
the past, and I can't imagine I'd be comfortable wearing a watch while
playing Beethoven today. My reason is that I would bump into the watch
in those passages that called for cross hand motion, i.e. the raght hand
coming across the left for some musical phrase.

So, were I to get one, it would come on and off my hand quite regularly.
How would that work? Would I need to authenticate again and again? If it
matters I can say that my iphone will never be far away--very much in
bluetooth range.



Brad Snyder writes:
> I???ve had an Apple Watch since the first watch was released in april 2015, 
> and have only ever been required to unlock the watch once after putting it 
> on, either by using the passcode on the watch, or by unlocking the iPhone to 
> which the watch is paired.
> Unless you take the watch off for some reason, I can???t imagine why you 
> would need to re-enter the passcode on the watch.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:05, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, thanks, Brad. This is helpful.  I may give it a try.  Back in the day, I 
> remember that it seemed like I had to enter the passcode a lot.  But that was 
> a long time ago.  I did not have it set up to unlock with my phone, which 
> makes a ton of sense.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
>> check the time.
>> You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until 
>> you take the watch off.
>> Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
>> unlocking your iPhone.
>> I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually 
>> enter the passcode on the watch.
>> Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password 
>> on my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to 
>> enter it every time I wanted to check the time. :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through 
>>> entering a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that 
>>> feature enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication 
>>> is needed at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, 
>>> and press the side button twice quickly. That's it.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ???Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I???m curious about how it works 
>>> on the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
>>> wrist up to the reader, except that you can???t authenticate with face or 
>>> Touch ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That 
>>> seems like it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be 
>>> able to hear your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Brad:

I want to focus on one phrase in your email: "Unless you take the watch
off for some reason."

How literally do I take that? Do you sleep with it on? Shower?

I cannot see myself playing piano with a watch on. It never worked in
the past, and I can't imagine I'd be comfortable wearing a watch while
playing Beethoven today. My reason is that I would bump into the watch
in those passages that called for cross hand motion, i.e. the raght hand
coming across the left for some musical phrase.

So, were I to get one, it would come on and off my hand quite regularly.
How would that work? Would I need to authenticate again and again? If it
matters I can say that my iphone will never be far away--very much in
bluetooth range.



Brad Snyder writes:
> I???ve had an Apple Watch since the first watch was released in april 2015, 
> and have only ever been required to unlock the watch once after putting it 
> on, either by using the passcode on the watch, or by unlocking the iPhone to 
> which the watch is paired.
> Unless you take the watch off for some reason, I can???t imagine why you 
> would need to re-enter the passcode on the watch.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:05, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, thanks, Brad. This is helpful.  I may give it a try.  Back in the day, I 
> remember that it seemed like I had to enter the passcode a lot.  But that was 
> a long time ago.  I did not have it set up to unlock with my phone, which 
> makes a ton of sense.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> > On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> > 
> > You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
> > check the time.
> > You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until 
> > you take the watch off.
> > Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
> > unlocking your iPhone.
> > I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually 
> > enter the passcode on the watch.
> > Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.
> > 
> > - Brad -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password 
> > on my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to 
> > enter it every time I wanted to check the time. :)
> > Cheers,
> > Donna
> > 
> >> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through 
> >> entering a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have 
> >> that feature enable. This suffices for authentication. No further 
> >> authentication is needed at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up 
> >> to the terminal, and press the side button twice quickly. That's it.
> >> 
> >> - Brad -
> >> 
> >> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> ???Hi all,
> >> 
> >> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I???m curious about how it 
> >> works on the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just 
> >> hold your wrist up to the reader, except that you can???t authenticate 
> >> with face or Touch ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every 
> >> time?  That seems like it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around 
> >> you would be able to hear your password.  How do people deal with that 
> >> issue?
> >> TIA,
> >> Donna
> >> 
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I don’t remember now what caused me to always be entering a password.  But it’s 
good to know it isn’t supposed to work that way.  I’ll try setting it up again 
with the option of unlocking with the phone, and see how it goes.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:12 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had an Apple Watch since the first watch was released in april 2015, and 
> have only ever been required to unlock the watch once after putting it on, 
> either by using the passcode on the watch, or by unlocking the iPhone to 
> which the watch is paired.
> Unless you take the watch off for some reason, I can’t imagine why you would 
> need to re-enter the passcode on the watch.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:05, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, thanks, Brad. This is helpful.  I may give it a try.  Back in the day, I 
> remember that it seemed like I had to enter the passcode a lot.  But that was 
> a long time ago.  I did not have it set up to unlock with my phone, which 
> makes a ton of sense.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
>> check the time.
>> You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until 
>> you take the watch off.
>> Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
>> unlocking your iPhone.
>> I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually 
>> enter the passcode on the watch.
>> Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password 
>> on my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to 
>> enter it every time I wanted to check the time. :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through 
>>> entering a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that 
>>> feature enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication 
>>> is needed at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, 
>>> and press the side button twice quickly. That's it.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works 
>>> on the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
>>> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or 
>>> Touch ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That 
>>> seems like it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be 
>>> able to hear your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Jessica Barr
Oh, that makes sense. I haven't enabled that feature yet because Face ID isn't 
always reliable for me.

- Original Message -
From: Brad Snyder 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 10:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection feature.
When Stolen Device Protection is enabled, then passcode bypass is disabled, and 
only biometric authorization is allowed. 
- Brad -

On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:08, Jessica Barr  wrote:
You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.
- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?
Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
This is true, unless you have enabled the new Stolen Device Protection feature.
When Stolen Device Protection is enabled, then passcode bypass is disabled, and 
only biometric authorization is allowed. 

- Brad -



On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:08, Jessica Barr  wrote:

You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.

- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I’ve had an Apple Watch since the first watch was released in april 2015, and 
have only ever been required to unlock the watch once after putting it on, 
either by using the passcode on the watch, or by unlocking the iPhone to which 
the watch is paired.
Unless you take the watch off for some reason, I can’t imagine why you would 
need to re-enter the passcode on the watch.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 09:05, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Oh, thanks, Brad. This is helpful.  I may give it a try.  Back in the day, I 
remember that it seemed like I had to enter the passcode a lot.  But that was a 
long time ago.  I did not have it set up to unlock with my phone, which makes a 
ton of sense.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
> check the time.
> You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until you 
> take the watch off.
> Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
> unlocking your iPhone.
> I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually 
> enter the passcode on the watch.
> Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password 
> on my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to enter 
> it every time I wanted to check the time. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through 
>> entering a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that 
>> feature enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication 
>> is needed at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, 
>> and press the side button twice quickly. That's it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
>> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
>> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or 
>> Touch ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That 
>> seems like it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be 
>> able to hear your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Jessica Barr
You can also authenticate using your passcode if Touch ID or Face ID isn't 
reliable.

- Original Message -
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2024 09:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

Hi Janina,
I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn't be secure.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Steve Matzura

On 3/7/2024 10:01 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:
Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the 
watch, or unlocking your iPhone.
I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to 
actually enter the passcode on the watch.


Where is that set up? Or is it just that way automatically when the 
phone is unlocked?


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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, thanks, Brad. This is helpful.  I may give it a try.  Back in the day, I 
remember that it seemed like I had to enter the passcode a lot.  But that was a 
long time ago.  I did not have it set up to unlock with my phone, which makes a 
ton of sense.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
> check the time.
> You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until you 
> take the watch off.
> Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
> unlocking your iPhone.
> I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually 
> enter the passcode on the watch.
> Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password 
> on my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to enter 
> it every time I wanted to check the time. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through 
>> entering a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that 
>> feature enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication 
>> is needed at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, 
>> and press the side button twice quickly. That's it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
>> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
>> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or 
>> Touch ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That 
>> seems like it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be 
>> able to hear your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
You should not be required to enter a password on your watch every time you 
check the time.
You need to unlock your watch after you put it on, and you are good until you 
take the watch off.
Unlocking your watch can be done by entering the passcode on the watch, or 
unlocking your iPhone.
I have mine setup to unlock using my iPhone, and rarely have to actually enter 
the passcode on the watch.
Been doing it that way since I got my first watch in 2015.

- Brad -



On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:36, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password on 
my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to enter it 
every time I wanted to check the time. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through entering 
> a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that feature 
> enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication is needed 
> at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, and press 
> the side button twice quickly. That's it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch 
> ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like 
> it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear 
> your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, that is very convenient.  Not sure it would be worth putting a password on 
my watch, though.  I had one for a while, but got tired of having to enter it 
every time I wanted to check the time. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through entering 
> a passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that feature 
> enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication is needed 
> at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, and press 
> the side button twice quickly. That's it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch 
> ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like 
> it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear 
> your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
Your Apple Watch is unlocked in advance. This is either done through entering a 
passcode on your watch or unlocking your iPhone if you have that feature 
enable. This suffices for authentication. No further authentication is needed 
at time of transaction. Just hold your watch up to the terminal, and press the 
side button twice quickly. That's it.

- Brad -

On Mar 7, 2024, at 08:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your wrist 
up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch ID.  So 
do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like it would 
be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear your 
password.  How do people deal with that issue?
TIA,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
You must authenticate every AppleApple Pay transaction with either touch ID or 
Face ID, which of course depends on which iPhone model you have.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 07:59, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
and wider than other credit cards.

Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
accessibility issues with that aspect.


I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.

Best,
Janina

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> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
The Apple Store app does not use Apple Pay.
It uses the default payment you have on file in your Apple ID.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:41, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
Bless.
/A

> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
> 
> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
> have those moments and experiences. 
> 
> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
> catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
> me reconsider that. :)
> Thanks again,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
>> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
>> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
>> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
>> 
>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
>> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use 
>> good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to 
>> use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number 
>> for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
>> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were 
>> extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And 
>> ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use 
>> cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a 
>> notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I 
>> had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed the 
>> fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest the 
>> charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved quickly 
>> and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  
>> relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
>> guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded 
>> for any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go 
>> into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind 
>> up losing the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay 
>> and the Apple Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for 
>> anything that I can think of.  
>> 
>> I hope this clears it up.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I 
>>> don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I use a Belton tempered glass screen protector. You can get it from Amazon.
Been using them for several years on different iPhones, without any problems 
with VoiceOver gestures.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 07:10, Phil Hammerslough  wrote:

Oh, that’s really great to hear!  I’ve been using Venmo & PayPal, both pretty 
easy, but this gives another couple of options!  Speaking of options,   I 
recently got a new iPhone and put a sturdy screen protector on it.  Lo & 
behold, it really interfered with the hand options; it took me about three 
weeks it wasn’t me or the phone that was having trouble getting those commands 
to work: it was the screen protector!  Can anyone suggest a thinner screen 
protector?

Best,
Phil

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 5:33 AM, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
> only used it in one location though so far.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 6 Mar 2024, at 14:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread Tom Rash
You don’t need a pass word or authentication.  I think the reason for that is 
that When you put the watch on you need to enter the password, so that takes 
care of the authorization. 


> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:06 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
> the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your 
> wrist up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch 
> ID.  So do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like 
> it would be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear 
> your password.  How do people deal with that issue?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Apple Pay on Apple Watch?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Related to our discussion about Apple Pay, I’m curious about how it works on 
the watch.  It seems like it would be super convenient to just hold your wrist 
up to the reader, except that you can’t authenticate with face or Touch ID.  So 
do you then have to enter your password every time?  That seems like it would 
be a hassle, and also like everyone around you would be able to hear your 
password.  How do people deal with that issue?
TIA,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Janina,

I had to authenticate using Face ID.  I believe you have to do that every time, 
otherwise it wouldn’t be secure.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:59 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
> different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
> and wider than other credit cards.
> 
> Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
> accessibility issues with that aspect.
> 
> 
> I'm actually curious about using Apple Pay out in the wild. Is phone
> proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
> should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
> face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
> face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
> somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
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>> Subject says it all,  I???m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I received my Apple Card when I bought my M2 laptop. There's nothing
different about it, other than it's slightly thicker and slightly longer
and wider than other credit cards.

Managing your financials in Wallet works very well. I have had no
accessibility issues with that aspect.


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proximity to the payment terminal sufficient for the transaction? Or
should one expect to need to authenticate, perhaps with fingerprint or
face recognition  at some frequency? My Mini SE has fingerprint but not
face recognition. Unfortunately, fingerprint recognition can become
somewhat unreliable as one ages, and I resemble that remark.

Best,
Janina

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Anders,

That’s interesting.  Don’t know why that wouldn’t work, but then, I’m sort of 
new to all this. :)

Apple Pay worked quite well for me yesterday, though it wasn’t an App Store 
transaction.  Have you ever thought about just adding money to your account and 
using that to make purchases?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> The only issue I have is when buying something in the Apple Store app.
> I don’t get how to pay when buying some thing there.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 6 mars 2024 kl. 20:29 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
>> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
>> 
>> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
>> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
>> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
>> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
>> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
>> have those moments and experiences.  
>> 
>> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
>> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely 
>> to catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
>> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to 
>> make me reconsider that. :)
>> Thanks again,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident 
>>> that I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of 
>>> control, something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  
>>> I still recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly 
>>> easy.  
>>> 
>>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site 
>>> that turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not 
>>> use good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I 
>>> tried to use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the 
>>> right number for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, 
>>> Chase and Apple, because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both 
>>> companies were extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them. 
>>>  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can 
>>> use cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent 
>>> me a notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a 
>>> charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed 
>>> the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest 
>>> the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
>>> quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do 
>>> think it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as 
>>> responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that if you think you might 
>>> have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to those notifications 
>>> and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does 
>>> happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are very professional 
>>> about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest and most 
>>> accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
>>> 
>>> I hope this clears it up.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the 
>>>> only place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I 
>>>> love it, because you immediately know when anything was charged to your 
>>>> card. I don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really 
>>>> appreciate The immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>&

Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread Phil Hammerslough
Oh, that’s really great to hear!  I’ve been using Venmo & PayPal, both pretty 
easy, but this gives another couple of options!  Speaking of options,   I 
recently got a new iPhone and put a sturdy screen protector on it.  Lo & 
behold, it really interfered with the hand options; it took me about three 
weeks it wasn’t me or the phone that was having trouble getting those commands 
to work: it was the screen protector!  Can anyone suggest a thinner screen 
protector?

Best,
Phil

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>  wrote:
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> I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
> only used it in one location though so far.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
> 
>> On 6 Mar 2024, at 14:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
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>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-07 Thread 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries
I’ve used Apple Pay a couple of times on my iPhone and it’s worked well. I’ve 
only used it in one location though so far.

All the best
Angie


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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
Your original post stated it was an ApplePay issue, not an issue with your 
Apple Card. 

- Brad -



On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:41, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
this is a Chase bank issue.

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On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Yes, and I still recommend the Apple Card.  It’s just something to be aware of. 
 I guess that no matter how smart you think you are, you have to be paying 
attention all the time and never be so tired or upset that you don’t pay 
attention to that little voice in your heard.  Anyway, even though they didn’t 
catch it, I never had to pay for the charges.  I just would have liked for them 
to never have gone through int he first place.  Chase has been doing credit 
cards longer than GS has.


> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:29 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Mary,
> 
> Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but 
> my husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.
> 
> I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
> decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in 
> Sicily for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was 
> completely unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making 
> that purchase felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all 
> have those moments and experiences.  
> 
> I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
> purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
> catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
> additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
> me reconsider that. :)
> Thanks again,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
>> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
>> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
>> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
>> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
>> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
>> 
>> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
>> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use 
>> good judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to 
>> use two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number 
>> for one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
>> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were 
>> extremely courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And 
>> ultimately, I did not lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use 
>> cards from both these companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a 
>> notification that there was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I 
>> had not made.  The only difference was that Chase never allowed the 
>> fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to contest the 
>> charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved quickly 
>> and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  
>> relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
>> guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded 
>> for any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go 
>> into the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind 
>> up losing the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay 
>> and the Apple Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for 
>> anything that I can think of.  
>> 
>> I hope this clears it up.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I 
>>> don’t get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Interesting. I have had legitimate purchases declined by my Apple Card. I get a 
notification immediately telling me this was declined, did you do it? And if I 
go click yes, then it goes through. I’ve never had them not catch something. So 
that was very interesting. I have had fraud on two other cards. Nothing to do 
with Apple or my phone or anything I did. The damned thieves probably got my 
number someway somewhere but not because I lost a card or saved a card on a 
website or whatever. I never ever save credit card information anywhere Except 
on braille cards that I keep. Nobody reads braille except blind people. Smile. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:41 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
> was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
> never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
> this is a Chase bank issue.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
> raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
> mentioning them.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern 
>> I have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people 
>> were on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait 
>> for the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
>> Mary Ward
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Lorie McCloud
I use Apple pay on my phone quite often. I’ve never had any problems with it. 

sometimes it doesn’t gothrough when I try to use it on my Mac. I’m not sure why 
that is.

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

Thanks so much for all this information.  I’ve never experienced fraud, but my 
husband has—a work study student stole his credit card.

I get the being tired thing, and sometimes you end up having to try and make 
decisions not under the best of circumstances.  I just hired a driver in Sicily 
for our trip this summer.  He used a payment service that I was completely 
unfamiliar with, which isn’t to say they aren’t legit, but making that purchase 
felt risky.  So, my way of saying, that tired or not, we all have those moments 
and experiences.  

I actually really like the idea that the Apple Card notifies you when a 
purchase is made.  At least that way if there is fraud, you’re more likely to 
catch it quickly.  In general, I don’t really like the idea of getting an 
additional credit card, but the instant notifications might be enough to make 
me reconsider that. :)
Thanks again,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 1:19 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at 
> all to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some 
> major purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that 
> I always know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, 
> something I have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still 
> recommend the Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  
> 
> But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
> turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
> judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use 
> two credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for 
> one of them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, 
> because both frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely 
> courteous and professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not 
> lose any money, so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these 
> companies.  The Apple Card in particularly sent me a notification that there 
> was a charge, and when I looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only 
> difference was that Chase never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first 
> place, while I actually had to contest the charges with Apple.  This took a 
> couple of weeks and was resolved quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy 
> with my Apple Card.  But I do think it is  relevant that their fraud 
> protection was not quite as responsive.  So I guess what I am saying is that 
> if you think you might have been defrauded for any reason, pay attention to 
> those notifications and take the time to go into the Wallet app and look 
> around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing the money.  They are 
> very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple Card are the easiest 
> and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can think of.  
> 
> I hope this clears it up.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
>> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
>> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
>> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The 
>> immediate notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
I feel the need to explain this a little better.  It is not my intention at all 
to trash the Apple Card.  I still use it frequently and have put some major 
purchases on it.  It is easy to set up and use.  I feel confident that I always 
know exactly what is going on and that I have a lot of control, something I 
have not always felt when dealing with credit cards.  I still recommend the 
Apple Card for VoiceOver users.  It is amazingly easy.  

But I had the misfortunate to make an ill-advised transaction on a site that 
turned out to be fraudulent.  I was tired and in a hurry and did not use good 
judgment, which is a major way that scams and fraud happen.  I tried to use two 
credit cards because I thought I just didn’t have the right number for one of 
them.  This is why I am comparing the two cards, Chase and Apple, because both 
frauds happened at the same time.  Both companies were extremely courteous and 
professional when I spoke with them.  And ultimately, I did not lose any money, 
so I feel confident that I can use cards from both these companies.  The Apple 
Card in particularly sent me a notification that there was a charge, and when I 
looked it was a charge I had not made.  The only difference was that Chase 
never allowed the fraudulent charge in the first place, while I actually had to 
contest the charges with Apple.  This took a couple of weeks and was resolved 
quickly and painlessly.  I am still happy with my Apple Card.  But I do think 
it is  relevant that their fraud protection was not quite as responsive.  So I 
guess what I am saying is that if you think you might have been defrauded for 
any reason, pay attention to those notifications and take the time to go into 
the Wallet app and look around.  If it does happen, you will not wind up losing 
the money.  They are very professional about it.  But Apple Pay and the Apple 
Card are the easiest and most accessible ways to pay for anything that I can 
think of.  

I hope this clears it up.  



> On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
> place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
> because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
> get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
> notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 6:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, sorry, yes, I did get that.  I still think it’s a good idea.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:11 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Correction….
> What I said is that I have one card set up as the default card on my watch, 
> and another set up as the default on my iPhone.
> Both cards are available on both devices.
> The Mac works differently than the watch and the iPhone, which I did not 
> address.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brad,
> 
> Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up 
> on your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up 
> for our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I 
> like the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other 
> device would have a different card.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
>> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
>> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
>> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
>> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
>> 
>> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
>> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
>> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
>> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
>> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries


I had fraudulent attacks on two cards on the same day. It was my own fault, I 
was not paying attention. Anyway, the Chase bank caught it, and the charge 
never went through, but the charge went through on the Apple card.
Mary Ward

On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
this is a Chase bank issue.

- Brad -

On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
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> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
I don't think Mary's concerns have anything to do with Apple Pay. I believe 
this is a Chase bank issue.

- Brad -

On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you 
raise are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you 
mentioning them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball.
> Mary Ward
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:43 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
Correction….
What I said is that I have one card set up as the default card on my watch, and 
another set up as the default on my iPhone.
Both cards are available on both devices.
The Mac works differently than the watch and the iPhone, which I did not 
address.

- Brad -

On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up on 
your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up for 
our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I like 
the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other device 
would have a different card.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
> 
> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
I have never had any problems with Apple Pay on my phone, which is the only 
place I use it. I do use the Apple Card for a lot of things and I love it, 
because you immediately know when anything was charged to your card. I don’t 
get that same thing with any other card, so I really appreciate The immediate 
notification. I’ve never had any problems with it.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Its easy on any apple device supporting it.
I use it with my Iphone and iPad mini and Apple Watch and it works fairly well.
It works with my Mac but I have to use my phone to confirm things.
I don’t have any Touch Bar or such on my keyboard.
/A

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thank you, everyone for sharing your experiences.  Mary, the concerns you raise 
are among those I’m trying to figure out, so I really appreciate you mentioning 
them.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 9:55 AM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
> have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were 
> on the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for 
> the money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball. 
> Mary Ward
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad,

Thanks for all this, it’s very helpful.  Clever idea to have one card set up on 
your watch, and another on your Mac.  In part I’m doing this to get set up for 
our trip this summer, so I'm trying to figure out most secure options.  I like 
the idea that if either my phone or watch were to be stolen, my other device 
would have a different card.
Cheers,
Donna

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> I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
> Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
> watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
> device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
> card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.
> 
> As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since 
> it's initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of 
> the best features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the 
> Wallet app on your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds 
> happen much faster with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
Yes, I use both. I use Apple Pay on the phone and the Mac. The only concern I 
have is that once I had some fraudulent charges. The chase bank people were on 
the ball, but with Apple Pay, I had to contest the charges and wait for the 
money. I thought they were not quite as much on the ball. 
Mary Ward

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Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
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Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I use both. Love them both. Apple Card is very accessible. So it was Apple Pay.
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Snyder
I use both Apple Pay and the Apple card.
Apple Pay is easy to set up and easy to use. I'm able to use it on both my 
watch and my iPhone. I have said the default card to be different on each 
device. I use my Chase  debit card as the default on my watch, and my Apple 
card as the default on my iPhone. This set up works very well for me.

As mentioned above, I also have an Apple card and have been using it since it's 
initial rollout a few years ago. I really like the Apple card. One of the best 
features of the card is that it is all taken care of through the Wallet app on 
your iPhone. Transactions are easily monitored, and refunds happen much faster 
with the Apple Card than on my Chase Visa.

- Brad -

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Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
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Thanks,
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RE: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread pdevasto0219
I use it on my phone but not on the Mac. I've had very good luck with it. All 
you have to do is hold the phone over the reader, and I use touch ID on my 
iPhone SE and the payment goes through real quick.

Pete De Vasto

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Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, yeah, that is handy.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:59 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Cool! What I like on the Mac is it can fill out info like shipping and 
> whatnot.
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
>> that’s good to know.
>> Donna
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to 
>>> use on the Phone, both online and in a store.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
>>>> love to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Herbie Allen
Cool! What I like on the Mac is it can fill out info like shipping and whatnot.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:47, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
> that’s good to know.
> Donna
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to 
>> use on the Phone, both online and in a store.
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks.  I think I’d be more likely to use it on my phone than on my Mac, so 
that’s good to know.
Donna
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:45 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to use 
> on the Phone, both online and in a store.
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
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>> Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would 
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>> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread Herbie Allen
I use Apple Pay on the Phone and to some degree on the Mac. It is easy to use 
on the Phone, both online and in a store.

> On Mar 6, 2024, at 08:43, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Thanks,
> Donna
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Anyone else using Apple Pay or an Apple Card?

2024-03-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Subject says it all,  I’m considering one or both of these options.  Would love 
to know list members experiences, both good and bad.
Thanks,
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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I had no idea!

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> That is true for any form.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 23:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> well, I finally called Apple support and sure enough it was an issue with my 
>> zip code. I had put a period at the end of it and apparently that wasn't 
>> acceptable. sheesh!
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try going to Apple ID > Payment & Shipping, on either Mac or iOS.
>>> You can update/correct your billing address there.
>>> As I said before, when I had this issue, I needed to change my zip code to 
>>> only 5 digits, and that fixed the issue.
>>> Not sure if that will fix it for you, but it is worth looking at.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 17:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> when sending money I've run into this "update billing address" thing again 
>>> like I did online. where is that? I. found a shipping address in my wallet 
>>> but that doesn't appear to be it.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-05 Thread Herbie Allen
That is true for any form.

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 23:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> well, I finally called Apple support and sure enough it was an issue with my 
> zip code. I had put a period at the end of it and apparently that wasn't 
> acceptable. sheesh!
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Try going to Apple ID > Payment & Shipping, on either Mac or iOS.
>> You can update/correct your billing address there.
>> As I said before, when I had this issue, I needed to change my zip code to 
>> only 5 digits, and that fixed the issue.
>> Not sure if that will fix it for you, but it is worth looking at.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 17:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> when sending money I've run into this "update billing address" thing again 
>> like I did online. where is that? I. found a shipping address in my wallet 
>> but that doesn't appear to be it.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
well, I finally called Apple support and sure enough it was an issue with my 
zip code. I had put a period at the end of it and apparently that wasn't 
acceptable. sheesh!

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try going to Apple ID > Payment & Shipping, on either Mac or iOS.
> You can update/correct your billing address there.
> As I said before, when I had this issue, I needed to change my zip code to 
> only 5 digits, and that fixed the issue.
> Not sure if that will fix it for you, but it is worth looking at.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2022, at 17:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when sending money I've run into this "update billing address" thing again 
> like I did online. where is that? I. found a shipping address in my wallet 
> but that doesn't appear to be it.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-04 Thread Bradford Snyder
Try going to Apple ID > Payment & Shipping, on either Mac or iOS.
You can update/correct your billing address there.
As I said before, when I had this issue, I needed to change my zip code to only 
5 digits, and that fixed the issue.
Not sure if that will fix it for you, but it is worth looking at.

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On Oct 4, 2022, at 17:21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

when sending money I've run into this "update billing address" thing again like 
I did online. where is that? I. found a shipping address in my wallet but that 
doesn't appear to be it.

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2022-10-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
when sending money I've run into this "update billing address" thing again like 
I did online. where is that? I. found a shipping address in my wallet but that 
doesn't appear to be it.

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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-04 Thread Herbie Allen
iMessage, and under apps.

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 16:06, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> How do I use Apple pay to send somebody money using their email address?
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2022-10-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
How do I use Apple pay to send somebody money using their email address?

thanks.
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Re: Apple pay

2022-10-01 Thread Lorie McCloud
yeah. I like Apple pay a lot. I was kind of looking for the descrepencies to be 
shown somewhere but couldn't find anything. maybe I'll interact with the window 
next time.

> On Sep 30, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I recently had to deal with this issue as well. I just filled out the missing 
> details. I forget the actual steps, but I believe it showed them to me while 
> I was exploring the ApplePay Window. I think one thing we have to remember is 
> that ApplePay is not like a Paypal which is a completely third-party service. 
> ApplePay hides most of the card numbers from the merchant. I am  probably 
> over simplifying a bit, but the idea is to deal with the quirks,no matter how 
> annoying.
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 18:07, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> this afternoon I tried to use Apple Pay on a website with Safari on my Mac. 
>> it was set up and I'd used it successfully on my phone before this. it gave 
>> me a message that said: billing address invalid." that doesn't make sense to 
>> me ince it uses the same billing address as on my phone. what's going on? is 
>> there a way to fix this or is it just a fluke?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Apple pay

2022-09-30 Thread Herbie Allen
I recently had to deal with this issue as well. I just filled out the missing 
details. I forget the actual steps, but I believe it showed them to me while I 
was exploring the ApplePay Window. I think one thing we have to remember is 
that ApplePay is not like a Paypal which is a completely third-party service. 
ApplePay hides most of the card numbers from the merchant. I am  probably over 
simplifying a bit, but the idea is to deal with the quirks,no matter how 
annoying.

> On Sep 30, 2022, at 18:07, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> this afternoon I tried to use Apple Pay on a website with Safari on my Mac. 
> it was set up and I'd used it successfully on my phone before this. it gave 
> me a message that said: billing address invalid." that doesn't make sense to 
> me ince it uses the same billing address as on my phone. what's going on? is 
> there a way to fix this or is it just a fluke?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Apple pay

2022-09-30 Thread Brad Snyder
I have seen this issue before.
It happens with some merchants, but not all.
Make sure your ZIP Code is only five characters., and not nine.
That should correct the invalid billing address issue.
- Brad -

On Sep 30, 2022, at 18:07, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

this afternoon I tried to use Apple Pay on a website with Safari on my Mac. it 
was set up and I'd used it successfully on my phone before this. it gave me a 
message that said: billing address invalid." that doesn't make sense to me ince 
it uses the same billing address as on my phone. what's going on? is there a 
way to fix this or is it just a fluke?

thanks.
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2022-09-30 Thread Lorie McCloud
this afternoon I tried to use Apple Pay on a website with Safari on my Mac. it 
was set up and I'd used it successfully on my phone before this. it gave me a 
message that said: billing address invalid." that doesn't make sense to me ince 
it uses the same billing address as on my phone. what's going on? is there a 
way to fix this or is it just a fluke?

thanks.
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Jonathan Cohn
For the SE phones you can set up ApplePay to work by double tapping the home 
button. You will then  ask you if you want to use the default card. If so just 
touching the home button once more for fingerprint detection and then you have 
a few minutes to get the phone near the NFC reader.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hello,
> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on this 
> iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used Apple Pay 
> to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to ensure that my 
> in store purchase is private and that the details of my card are not heard by 
> nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see anything displayed on 
> the in store terminal?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Phil Halton
As far as “pointing “at the terminal reader, it’s more actually just bringing 
it next to the reader. I’ve always just put my hand on the reader itself then 
bring the phone over to my other hand to ensure that I’m bringing it near the 
reader. That’s not a problem and it doesn’t in fear with anything. I always 
double click the side button then I bring the phone next to the reader. Works 
fine. 

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> It can be done before or right when you point.
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 14:58, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> when do you press the side button? is that as soon as you point your camera 
>> at the store's device?
>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 11:04 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You will and it works the same way as it does online. The only difference 
>>> is you have to point it at the reader when double clicking the side button. 
>>> It uses a chip, so you don’t have to worry about screen curtain or anything 
>>> like that. Just tell the cashier you want to use ApplePay and they will 
>>> press the buttons they need to on there terminal.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
>>>> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on 
>>>> this iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used 
>>>> Apple Pay to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to 
>>>> ensure that my in store purchase is private and that the details of my 
>>>> card are not heard by nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to 
>>>> see anything displayed on the in store terminal?
>>>> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Lorie McCloud
ok. I used the Home button. does it matter? this is an iPhone se 2020.

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> It can be done before or right when you point.
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 14:58, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> when do you press the side button? is that as soon as you point your camera 
>> at the store's device?
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 11:04 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You will and it works the same way as it does online. The only difference 
>>> is you have to point it at the reader when double clicking the side button. 
>>> It uses a chip, so you don’t have to worry about screen curtain or anything 
>>> like that. Just tell the cashier you want to use ApplePay and they will 
>>> press the buttons they need to on there terminal.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
>>>> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on 
>>>> this iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used 
>>>> Apple Pay to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to 
>>>> ensure that my in store purchase is private and that the details of my 
>>>> card are not heard by nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to 
>>>> see anything displayed on the in store terminal?
>>>> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Herbie Allen
It can be done before or right when you point.

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 14:58, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> when do you press the side button? is that as soon as you point your camera 
> at the store's device?
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 11:04 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> You will and it works the same way as it does online. The only difference is 
>> you have to point it at the reader when double clicking the side button. It 
>> uses a chip, so you don’t have to worry about screen curtain or anything 
>> like that. Just tell the cashier you want to use ApplePay and they will 
>> press the buttons they need to on there terminal.
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
>>> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on 
>>> this iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used 
>>> Apple Pay to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to 
>>> ensure that my in store purchase is private and that the details of my card 
>>> are not heard by nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see 
>>> anything displayed on the in store terminal?
>>> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Lorie McCloud
when do you press the side button? is that as soon as you point your camera at 
the store's device?

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 11:04 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> You will and it works the same way as it does online. The only difference is 
> you have to point it at the reader when double clicking the side button. It 
> uses a chip, so you don’t have to worry about screen curtain or anything like 
> that. Just tell the cashier you want to use ApplePay and they will press the 
> buttons they need to on there terminal.
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
>> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on this 
>> iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used Apple Pay 
>> to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to ensure that 
>> my in store purchase is private and that the details of my card are not 
>> heard by nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see anything 
>> displayed on the in store terminal?
>> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Lorie McCloud
I've only done this once but it worked fine. vo doesn't speak any of the 
details of your card. my biggest problem was hearing vo. I had to be shown 
where to point the camera and then I pressed the home button once. as I recall, 
vo says the amount that's going to be paid and then you lay your finger on the 
home button. the phone makes that sound that it makes when you're installing an 
app and that lets you know the payment is complete. I've considering putting 
earbuds in a couple of times just so I could hear what was going on.

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on this 
> iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used Apple Pay 
> to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to ensure that my 
> in store purchase is private and that the details of my card are not heard by 
> nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see anything displayed on 
> the in store terminal?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Herbie Allen
You will and it works the same way as it does online. The only difference is 
you have to point it at the reader when double clicking the side button. It 
uses a chip, so you don’t have to worry about screen curtain or anything like 
that. Just tell the cashier you want to use ApplePay and they will press the 
buttons they need to on there terminal.

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 10:26, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I 
> make in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on this 
> iPhone is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used Apple Pay 
> to make online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to ensure that my 
> in store purchase is private and that the details of my card are not heard by 
> nearby people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see anything displayed on 
> the in store terminal?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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How to make in store purchases with Apple Pay using VoiceOver

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello,
I have an iPhone SE2020 running the latest IOS. As a VoiceOver user  can I make 
in store purchases using Apple Pay with this iPhone? The wallet on this iPhone 
is set up with my  debit card and I have successfully used Apple Pay to make 
online purchases. Will I need to plug in headphones to ensure that my in store 
purchase is private and that the details of my card are not heard by nearby 
people via my VoiceOver speech? Do I need to see anything displayed on the in 
store terminal?
Many thanks … Paul Hopewell

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Re: Paying with Apple Pay on the Mac.

2022-03-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
No it was already added.
But I had to select the right address and one of my 2 Visa cards.
No card worked on that site.
It works like a charm on apple store.
If you want to try it its complfoam.com.
They make foam tips for AirPods Pro.
/A
19 mars 2022 kl. 21:16 skrev Tibor Niesner :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> did you try again add a credit card to ApplePay in system preferences?
> 
> Tibor
> 
> 
>> 19. 3. 2022 v 20:06, Anders Holmberg :
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I am about to by some things on the web and they can take Apple Pay but when 
>> I click on the apple pay radio button I get an error after a while where it 
>> says invalid delivery address.
>> So i am very irritated.
>> I will try this on my Iphone to see if it will work better.
>> /A
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Re: Paying with Apple Pay on the Mac.

2022-03-19 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hi,

did you try again add a credit card to ApplePay in system preferences?

Tibor


> 19. 3. 2022 v 20:06, Anders Holmberg :
> 
> Hi!
> I am about to by some things on the web and they can take Apple Pay but when 
> I click on the apple pay radio button I get an error after a while where it 
> says invalid delivery address.
> So i am very irritated.
> I will try this on my Iphone to see if it will work better.
> /A
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Re: Paying with Apple Pay on the Mac.

2022-03-19 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Apple Pay worked on the Mac for me recently, so it’s a problem specific to your 
situation or configuration.

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Date: Saturday, 19March, 2022 at 15:06
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Paying with Apple Pay on the Mac.
Hi!
I am about to by some things on the web and they can take Apple Pay but when I 
click on the apple pay radio button I get an error after a while where it says 
invalid delivery address.
So i am very irritated.
I will try this on my Iphone to see if it will work better.
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Paying with Apple Pay on the Mac.

2022-03-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I am about to by some things on the web and they can take Apple Pay but when I 
click on the apple pay radio button I get an error after a while where it says 
invalid delivery address.
So i am very irritated.
I will try this on my Iphone to see if it will work better.
/A

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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-28 Thread joseph hodge
I asked my sister this yesterday because she works for Walmart in their 
Internet portion and it’s still that way here. The crazy thing for me is that 
she told me in their stores they are literally using iPhones to do their 
stocking of shelves now they no longer use separate scanners. So I love the 
hypocrisy that they’re using here and that we can use iPhones for scanning in 
our products but we can’t use iPhones for Apple Pay.  The crazier part to me is 
that ultimately they’re putting the scanning of products in for inventory on 
the workers requiring them to use their own cell phone. She wasn’t clear of 
android had scanning apps I assume they do she only knew about iPhone having 
them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2022, at 12:17 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Interesting that y'all in the States can't use Apple Pay At Walmart. I 
> live in Winnipeg Canada and the Walmarts here finally started allowing Apple 
> Pay as an option. So yeah, I use it all the time and like Kawal, I mostly use 
> my watch for it unless it's charging at which point I use my iPhone SE 2020.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
>> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>>> they wouldn’t.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>>> Walmart.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>>>> Joseph Hudson
>>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>>> Technology support for the blind
>>>> Telephone
>>>> 254-300-7667
>>>> 
>>>> Emergency cell
>>>> 
>>>> 254-813-2461
>>>> Skype
>>>> joseph.hudson89 
>>>> 
>>>> facebook
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>>>> Twitter
>>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple 
>>>>> Pay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>>>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>>>>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. 
>>>>>> And I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>>>>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> oh ok. so that's wha

Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-27 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Hi. Interesting that y'all in the States can't use Apple Pay At Walmart. I live 
in Winnipeg Canada and the Walmarts here finally started allowing Apple Pay as 
an option. So yeah, I use it all the time and like Kawal, I mostly use my watch 
for it unless it's charging at which point I use my iPhone SE 2020.

Regards,
Shawn,
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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>> they wouldn’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>> Walmart.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson >> <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
>>> Technology support for the blind
>>> Telephone
>>> 254-300-7667
>>> 
>>> Emergency cell
>>> 
>>> 254-813-2461
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 
>>> 
>>> facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>>>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
>>>>> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>>>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
>>>>>>>> point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>>>>

Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-26 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
Hi.

I use Apple Pay using my watch as it’s difficult to use Apple Pay with a phone 
which has Face ID if you are wearing a mask in shops.  I just locate the reader 
and put my watch near it and press the side button.

Kawal.

> On 26 Jan 2022, at 17:33, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Just chiming in here greg is correct. Walmart is trying to push their own app 
> and agenda for payments so they don’t allow for Apple Pay. It’s so ridiculous 
> but that’s America. I forget what they called there app but when I last heard 
> about it it was doing a lot of tracking. That’s what makes us payment stuff 
> kind of tough being blind because you can’t automatically just assume 
> something takes Apple Pay even if it’s a newer terminal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
>> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton >> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>>> they wouldn’t.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>>> Walmart.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson >>> <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>>>> Joseph Hudson
>>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>>> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
>>>> Technology support for the blind
>>>> Telephone
>>>> 254-300-7667
>>>> 
>>>> Emergency cell
>>>> 
>>>> 254-813-2461
>>>> Skype
>>>> joseph.hudson89 
>>>> 
>>>> facebook
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>>>> Twitter
>>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple 
>>>>> Pay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>>>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>>>>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. 
>>>>>> And I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>>>>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
>>>>>>>>> point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>

Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-26 Thread joseph hodge
Just chiming in here greg is correct. Walmart is trying to push their own app 
and agenda for payments so they don’t allow for Apple Pay. It’s so ridiculous 
but that’s America. I forget what they called there app but when I last heard 
about it it was doing a lot of tracking. That’s what makes us payment stuff 
kind of tough being blind because you can’t automatically just assume something 
takes Apple Pay even if it’s a newer terminal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>> they wouldn’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>> Walmart.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> Technology support for the blind
>>> Telephone
>>> 254-300-7667
>>> 
>>> Emergency cell
>>> 
>>> 254-813-2461
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 
>>> 
>>> facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>>>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
>>>>> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>>>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
>>>>>>>> point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-26 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello,
No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless payments 
is thru the walmart pay app. 

Greg Wocher


> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was ill-informed. 
> At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would be shocked if 
> you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know about that. But 
> I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson > <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
>> Technology support for the blind
>> Telephone
>> 254-300-7667
>> 
>> Emergency cell
>> 
>> 254-813-2461
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 
>> 
>> facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>>>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
>>>> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any 
>>>>> good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point 
>>>>>>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-26 Thread Phil Halton
A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was ill-informed. 
At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would be shocked if you 
couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know about that. But I’ve 
never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why they wouldn’t.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
> Joseph Hudson
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> Technology support for the blind
> Telephone
> 254-300-7667
> 
> Emergency cell
> 
> 254-813-2461
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 
> 
> facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if 
>>> these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm 
>>> talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any 
>>>> good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point 
>>>>>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Brad Snyder
ApplePay is accepted at Target.
Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart.

- Brad -




On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:

Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might the 
>> next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if 
>> these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm 
>> talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Herbie Allen
Don’t know if they do or not, but they used to do something  called Walmart 
pay, ApplePay is much easier.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
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>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if 
>>> these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm 
>>> talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any 
>>>> good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>>>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point 
>>>>>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread joseph hudson
Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might the 
>> next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if 
>> these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm 
>> talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might the 
> next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if these 
> work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm talking 
> at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>>> up. thanks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I use Apple Pay too and here in Sweden its easy to find the terminal where you 
pay.
I just hold it over  the card reader.
/A

> 25 jan. 2022 kl. 20:32 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
> In order to actually find the NFC reader, are usually ask the clerk where it 
> is, and then I put my hand physically on the reader and bring the phone hand 
> over to it. Works every time if you don’t mind asking for a little help. The 
> steps I take are as follows
> One double click the side button and look at the device for face recognition. 
> This brings up the Wallet app.
> Two. Bring the phone close to the NFC reader as I explained above. Three. If 
> you’ve done it right, you’ll hear the happy ding sound. If not, try it over 
> again making sure that the Wallet has come up with Credit card linked to 
> Apple Pay   as the active card. Sometimes, like at Walgreens, I’ll have a 
> Walgreens card that will come up and be active rather than my credit card. 
> Then, I take my time and don’t get flustered, I don’t care how many people 
> are waiting in line, and I make sure that my credit card becomes active and 
> then I go through the process again. Iuse Apple Pay everywhere now it’s great.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> The camera has nothing to do with it, because NFC does not use the camera. 
>> NFC uses radio frequency communications.
>> In my experience, you want to hold your iPhone or Apple Watch within about 6 
>> inches of the reader. That should do it.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 08:06, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, question, sense I’ve never done this either.  How do you know when 
>> you’re in camera shot of the reader when you’re ready to make your 
>> transaction without being able to see it?
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>>> setting up. thanks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread joseph hudson
Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might the 
next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if these 
work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm talking at 
places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>> up. thanks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Phil Halton
In order to actually find the NFC reader, are usually ask the clerk where it 
is, and then I put my hand physically on the reader and bring the phone hand 
over to it. Works every time if you don’t mind asking for a little help. The 
steps I take are as follows
One double click the side button and look at the device for face recognition. 
This brings up the Wallet app.
Two. Bring the phone close to the NFC reader as I explained above. Three. If 
you’ve done it right, you’ll hear the happy ding sound. If not, try it over 
again making sure that the Wallet has come up with Credit card linked to Apple 
Pay   as the active card. Sometimes, like at Walgreens, I’ll have a Walgreens 
card that will come up and be active rather than my credit card. Then, I take 
my time and don’t get flustered, I don’t care how many people are waiting in 
line, and I make sure that my credit card becomes active and then I go through 
the process again. Iuse Apple Pay everywhere now it’s great.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The camera has nothing to do with it, because NFC does not use the camera. 
> NFC uses radio frequency communications.
> In my experience, you want to hold your iPhone or Apple Watch within about 6 
> inches of the reader. That should do it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 08:06, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, question, sense I’ve never done this either.  How do you know when 
> you’re in camera shot of the reader when you’re ready to make your 
> transaction without being able to see it?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
>> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
>> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>>> up. thanks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Brad Snyder
The camera has nothing to do with it, because NFC does not use the camera. NFC 
uses radio frequency communications.
In my experience, you want to hold your iPhone or Apple Watch within about 6 
inches of the reader. That should do it.

- Brad -

On Jan 25, 2022, at 08:06, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Ok, question, sense I’ve never done this either.  How do you know when you’re 
in camera shot of the reader when you’re ready to make your transaction without 
being able to see it?

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>> up. thanks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, question, sense I’ve never done this either.  How do you know when you’re 
in camera shot of the reader when you’re ready to make your transaction without 
being able to see it?

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
> reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
> because they are “Nearfield readers “.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
>> up. thanks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your 
>>> phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Re: Apple Pay

2022-01-25 Thread Phil Halton
And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the card 
reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any good 
because they are “Nearfield readers “.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was setting 
> up. thanks.
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, there 
>> will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point your phone 
>> at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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