Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too. I have not tried it in classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way? On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that switching back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually classic view will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a revision or so down the line, at which time, learning all the changes from Snow Leopard to that version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts right now, I'd rather get to grips with the new view now. so need to find a way of doing this. On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too. I have not tried it in classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way? On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
I find that using the favorites bar in combination with quick-keys associated with it makes the new layout very easy to navigate. Once you create aliases in the favorites bar by simply dragging the mailboxes to it, you have the keystrokes command-1, command-2, command-3, etc. depending on the order the mailboxes are placed. Drag and drop is a bit tricky and takes a little coddling, but once everything's in place, it's a very efficient setup. HTH, Teresa On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that switching back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually classic view will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a revision or so down the line, at which time, learning all the changes from Snow Leopard to that version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts right now, I'd rather get to grips with the new view now. so need to find a way of doing this. On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too. I have not tried it in classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way? On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
Teresa, I'm sure that this works fine for any sort of mailbox management issue, but the issue to which I am referring to is a very specific one relating to interacting with columns. thanks. On 2 Aug 2011, at 14:29, Teresa Cochran wrote: I find that using the favorites bar in combination with quick-keys associated with it makes the new layout very easy to navigate. Once you create aliases in the favorites bar by simply dragging the mailboxes to it, you have the keystrokes command-1, command-2, command-3, etc. depending on the order the mailboxes are placed. Drag and drop is a bit tricky and takes a little coddling, but once everything's in place, it's a very efficient setup. HTH, Teresa On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: it does seem to work that way in classic view, but my opinion is that switching back to classic view is ultimately self defeating, as eventually classic view will go, and this will not be in Lion sure, but perhaps a revision or so down the line, at which time, learning all the changes from Snow Leopard to that version of OSx will be much harder, so although it hurts right now, I'd rather get to grips with the new view now. so need to find a way of doing this. On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:58, Chris Moore wrote: Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too. I have not tried it in classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way? On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Tim and all, Thanks much for your help. Tim's instructions worked perfectly. I have to remember that if I can't find something in the regular App's menu, I need to check out the Tool Bar and preferences. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi Linda, It is in the Mail Preferences that you need to change the Header view to None. When in Mail: 1. Press cmd-comma to open your Preferences. 2. Interact with the Toolbar. 3. Select the Viewing tab. 4. Mail will automatically stop interacting with the toolbar and move you to the Header View pop-up. 4. Use VO-space to change it from Default to None. 5. close your Preferences window. If you wish to have a specific message display the Header after setting things this way, simply press cmd-shift-h and the long Header info will appear for that message. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-10-15, at 1:57 PM, Linda Adams wrote: Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Conversations View
All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says blank I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with move right (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination smile. Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
A 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier versions of VoiceOver. Jon couple of points here. 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the preview and the list of mail items. On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says blank I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with move right (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination smile. Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
John, This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to be the choice here. Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I didn't already discover that!! Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: A 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier versions of VoiceOver. Jon couple of points here. 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the preview and the list of mail items. On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says blank I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with move right (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination smile. Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
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Hi Geoff: Think I missed something here. How do you tab to the preview pane. If I don't interact with messages, I just get the row. The preview pane is in a scroll area below, and I'm using Vo-j to check it out. Sometimes, I can hit enter, and it reads. At other times, I'll hit enter and then have to interact with the scroll area to read. A real PITA for sure. If anyone understands what's happening here, feel free to chime in. My apple trainer didn't really get why it was happening. TIA Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: John, This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to be the choice here. Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I didn't already discover that!! Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: A 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier versions of VoiceOver. Jon couple of points here. 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the preview and the list of mail items. On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says blank I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with move right (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination smile. Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Carolyn and list, Make certain that you are *NOT* interacting with the table of messages in a mail box. You can turn off the auto interact when tabbing feature in the VO utility in the Navigation dialog. I must have tested tab when I was interacting -- I just interacted with the table and then tab worked as you described and as I remembered. If this table is not being interacted with, tab moves you to the preview pane and in most instances causes the textt of the message to be read. HTH. Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Geoff: Think I missed something here. How do you tab to the preview pane. If I don't interact with messages, I just get the row. The preview pane is in a scroll area below, and I'm using Vo-j to check it out. Sometimes, I can hit enter, and it reads. At other times, I'll hit enter and then have to interact with the scroll area to read. A real PITA for sure. If anyone understands what's happening here, feel free to chime in. My apple trainer didn't really get why it was happening. TIA Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: John, This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to be the choice here. Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I didn't already discover that!! Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: A 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier versions of VoiceOver. Jon couple of points here. 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the preview and the list of mail items. On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says blank I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with move right (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination smile. Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
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Hi Linda. It's a long time since I did it so can't remember the exact steps. I still find the Mac complicated! On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:57, Linda Adams wrote: Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Linda, It is in the Mail Preferences that you need to change the Header view to None. When in Mail: 1. Press cmd-comma to open your Preferences. 2. Interact with the Toolbar. 3. Select the Viewing tab. 4. Mail will automatically stop interacting with the toolbar and move you to the Header View pop-up. 4. Use VO-space to change it from Default to None. 5. close your Preferences window. If you wish to have a specific message display the Header after setting things this way, simply press cmd-shift-h and the long Header info will appear for that message. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-10-15, at 1:57 PM, Linda Adams wrote: Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Linda! I think you have to go to viewing button in the tool bar and select that, one of the options in viewing menu is headings mine is set on default, one of the others is none that's what I think you have to set! hth Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 22:56, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Linda. It's a long time since I did it so can't remember the exact steps. I still find the Mac complicated! On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:57, Linda Adams wrote: Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganised by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automatically and you do shict command h and you voice over let arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organise by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
