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Hi Tim, Yeah it’s setup to the be bloody difficult unless your fingers are a foot long. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2017 4:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: Simon, When reseting the PRAM on an iMac, I usually put my left thumb across the left cmd and option keys and my left index finger on the r key. I then awkwardly reach around the left side of the iMac with my right hand and press the power button. With my left hand already in place, I can get my right pinky onto the right p key much quicker and things work out fine. Regarding you not reseting the PRAM, what's their beef? Other than reseting a few things to default, it shouldn't hurt them one bit. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 17, 2017, at 04:03, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi Tim, Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue, It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them. It works so I keep doing it. Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac, As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to give it a try I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies Cheers, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: Simon, Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM. After it has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you. If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts. Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound so that it makes your life difficult. They'll soon remember to be more considerate :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi Tim, I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. So I might have to try it again with the shift key From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com<mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two
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Simon, When reseting the PRAM on an iMac, I usually put my left thumb across the left cmd and option keys and my left index finger on the r key. I then awkwardly reach around the left side of the iMac with my right hand and press the power button. With my left hand already in place, I can get my right pinky onto the right p key much quicker and things work out fine. Regarding you not reseting the PRAM, what's their beef? Other than reseting a few things to default, it shouldn't hurt them one bit. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 17, 2017, at 04:03, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Hi Tim, Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue, It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them. It works so I keep doing it. Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac, As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to give it a try I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies Cheers, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: Simon, Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM. After it has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you. If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts. Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound so that it makes your life difficult. They'll soon remember to be more considerate :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi Tim, I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. So I might have to try it again with the shift key From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com <mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh HD, HD-2 and HD-3. • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for these volumes. • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3
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Hi Tim, Yeah the resetting PRAM is what I’m doing thus far to correct the issue, It’s been brought up in meetings to not do it but I work with a number of self centred ignorant people who wouldn’t no a disability if I kicked them. It works so I keep doing it. Although I’m still having issues when trying to do the PRAM reset on the iMac due to keys having to be pressed and where the power button is on the iMac, As for the fartting in their faces, hmmm, interesting thought, might have to give it a try I’m use to causing trouble it’s really just the depth that varies Cheers, From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Monday, 16 October 2017 3:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: Simon, Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM. After it has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you. If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts. Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound so that it makes your life difficult. They'll soon remember to be more considerate :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi Tim, I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. So I might have to try it again with the shift key From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com<mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh HD, HD-2 and HD-3. • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for these volumes. • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 respectively. • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in the way" of any expansion. • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need. • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if things are formatte
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Simon, Another way of getting around the volume thing is to reset the PRAM. After it has been reset, the volume will be back to a level that will be heard by you. If it's a case of them muting things so that when you restart, you don't know when to hold down the special keys, I usually just shutdown or force shutdown the computer so that I'm in control of when it starts. Finally, you could just fart in the face of everyone who keeps muting the sound so that it makes your life difficult. They'll soon remember to be more considerate :). Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 15, 2017, at 02:22, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Hi Tim, I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. So I might have to try it again with the shift key From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com <mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh HD, HD-2 and HD-3. • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for these volumes. • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 respectively. • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in the way" of any expansion. • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need. • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, but some different arguments. With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering. I hope this makes some sort of sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com <mailto:ogomez@gm
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I tried using the recovery tools, however the disk partition seems to be completely corrupted... I don't have an installation USB and yeah. I have to use a Sierra one which I am currently creating under windows... Ugh. I might end up having to take it to an Apple Care. On 10/15/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve > got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. > > So I might have to try it again with the shift key > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn > Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hello all: > > Hi, > > To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery > partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise > the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the > High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to > add the shift key to the combination. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty > <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: > > Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities > you can use vo > > Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up > So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then > you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery > utilities. > > As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to > try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all > the time. > > > > -Original Message- > From: > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez > Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Hello all: > > do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover > in it? > it's command r upon boot right? > > On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com<mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Hi > I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... > I think it will be better hahahaha > thanks Tim > > On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many > partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is > indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things > that may help. > > • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. > Macintosh > HD, HD-2 and HD-3. > • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk > identifier for these volumes. > • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 > respectively. > • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD > (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. > • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your > frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, > you cannot combine > disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is > logically "in the way" of any expansion. > • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the > partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display > the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. > • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever > need. > • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or > or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, > but some different arguments. > > With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free > space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then > the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to > backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally > different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD > into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data > to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow > merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with > respect to identifier numbering. > > I hope this makes some sort of sense. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > &
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Hi Tim, I’ve never vbeen able to get the volume to change when in recovery and I’ve got a couple of work colleagues who wont stop muting the system alert. So I might have to try it again with the shift key From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2017 3:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com<mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh HD, HD-2 and HD-3. • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for these volumes. • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 respectively. • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in the way" of any expansion. • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need. • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, but some different arguments. With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering. I hope this makes some sort of sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com<mailto:ogomez@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello all: I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? Thanks bunches. Oriol Gómez Sentís T: (+34)620788049 Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisiona
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Hi, To add to Simon's comments, if you don't hear VO when in the Recovery partition, you can use VO-cmd-left or three times, then VO-cmd-up to raise the volume. Don't know for sure if this rotor command has changed in the High Sierra version of the Recovery partition. If so, then you'll need to add the shift key to the combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 14, 2017, at 02:59, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... > I think it will be better hahahaha > thanks Tim > > On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many >> partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is >> indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things >> that may help. >> >> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. >> Macintosh >> HD, HD-2 and HD-3. >> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk >> identifier for these volumes. >> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 >> respectively. >> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD >> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. >> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your >> frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, >> you cannot combine >> disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is >> logically "in the way" of any expansion. >> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the >> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display >> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. >> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever >> need. >> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or >> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, >> but some different arguments. >> >> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free >> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then >> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to >> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally >> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD >> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data >> to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow >> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with >> respect to identifier numbering. >> >> I hope this makes some sort of sense. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello all: >> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the >> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. >> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone >> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? >> >> Thanks bunches. >> Oriol Gómez Sentís >> T: (+34)620788049 >> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropr
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Yes using command R at start up to get into the recovery console / utilities you can use vo Note though that you have to make sure you have the alert volume up So that means if someone has muted the start up tone on your machine then you wont hear the tones, you also wont hear the vo speech at the recovery utilities. As for how this works on the new machines, I can't say as haven't got one to try, but I know on older machines it works fine as I do this for work all the time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oriol Gómez Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 5:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hello all: do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... > I think it will be better hahahaha > thanks Tim > > On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many >> partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is >> indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things >> that may help. >> >> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. >> Macintosh >> HD, HD-2 and HD-3. >> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk >> identifier for these volumes. >> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 >> respectively. >> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD >> (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. >> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your >> frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, >> you cannot combine >> disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is >> logically "in the way" of any expansion. >> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the >> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display >> the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. >> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever >> need. >> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or >> or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, >> but some different arguments. >> >> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free >> space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then >> the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to >> backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally >> different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD >> into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data >> to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow >> merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with >> respect to identifier numbering. >> >> I hope this makes some sort of sense. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello all: >> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the >> other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. >> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone >> else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? >> >> Thanks bunches. >> Oriol Gómez Sentís >> T: (+34)620788049 >> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >> mark >> at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara >> macvisionaries+Quinn - >> you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
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do you know if the recovery artition is accessible (i.e. I can run voiceover in it? it's command r upon boot right? On 10/14/17, Oriol Gómez <ogomez@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... > I think it will be better hahahaha > thanks Tim > > On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many >> partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is >> indeed >> a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may >> help. >> >> • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. >> Macintosh >> HD, HD-2 and HD-3. >> • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier >> for >> these volumes. >> • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 >> respectively. >> • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) >> into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. >> • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your >> frustrations >> begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine >> disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically >> "in >> the way" of any expansion. >> • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the >> partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the >> disk identifier, such as disk3s3. >> • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever >> need. >> • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if >> things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, but some >> different arguments. >> >> With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space >> is >> not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way >> you >> could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the >> data >> from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that >> partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally >> re-create a partition for this data to return to. There are also methods >> within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same >> restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering. >> >> I hope this makes some sort of sense. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello all: >> I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the >> other >> volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. >> How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… >> Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with >> terminal? >> >> Thanks bunches. >> Oriol Gómez Sentís >> T: (+34)620788049 >> Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please con
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Hi I will just make a time machine of my drive then reinstall... I think it will be better hahahaha thanks Tim On 10/13/17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many > partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed > a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. > > • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh > HD, HD-2 and HD-3. > • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for > these volumes. > • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 > respectively. > • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) > into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. > • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations > begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine > disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in > the way" of any expansion. > • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the > partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the > disk identifier, such as disk3s3. > • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need. > • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if > things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, but some > different arguments. > > With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is > not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you > could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data > from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that > partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally > re-create a partition for this data to return to. There are also methods > within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same > restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering. > > I hope this makes some sort of sense. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello all: > I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other > volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. > How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… > Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? > > Thanks bunches. > Oriol Gómez Sentís > T: (+34)620788049 > Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, se
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Hi, This seems to depend on a number of factors. Specifically, how many partitions do you have on this disk? If only two, then your issue is indeed a problem. If more than two, then I'll explain a few things that may help. • Let's say, for argument's sake, that you have three partitions. Macintosh HD, HD-2 and HD-3. • using Disk Utility or Terminal, you can determine the disk identifier for these volumes. • For fun, I'll say that they came up as disk0s2, disk0s3 and disk0s4 respectively. • So, if you remove disk0s3, you can easily expand Macintosh HD (dis0s2) into the free space provided by the removal of disk0s3. • But, f disk0s4 is the partition that was removed, then your frustrations begin. Because disk0s4 is sequentially after disk0s3, you cannot combine disk0s2 with disks4. The reason for this is that disk0s3 is logically "in the way" of any expansion. • Confirm the disk identifiers while in Disk Utility by selecting the partition from the table and the last item on the screen will display the disk identifier, such as disk3s3. • In Terminal, use "distil list" to see all the disk info you'll ever need. • This gets a little more complicated if you have a Fusion drive or or if things are formatted in the new APFS format. Still possible, but some different arguments. With all this said, if your partition map has it so that your free space is not directly connected to the Macintosh HD partition, then the only way you could manipulate things to your favour would be to backup or copy the data from the other partition to a totally different target, remove that partition, then expand the Macintosh HD into the free space and finally re-create a partition for this data to return to. There are also methods within Terminal that can allow merging of partitions, but the same restrictions are applied with respect to identifier numbering. I hope this makes some sort of sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 12, 2017, at 22:25, Oriol Gómez Sentís <ogomez....@gmail.com> wrote: Hello all: I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? Thanks bunches. Oriol Gómez Sentís T: (+34)620788049 Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello all: I am trying to use disk utility to enlarge a partition. I deleted the other volume, and I would like to enlarge my boot volume. How can I do it? the pi chart seems to be inaccessible… Has anyone else done this before or os there a way to do it with terminal? Thanks bunches. Oriol Gómez Sentís T: (+34)620788049 Website: http://www.oriolgomez.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
