Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-12 Thread Barry Abbott
I too went to the Apple store this afternoon along with my wife. I was 
impressed with the weight shape and size of the watches. Joanne already gave a 
very accurate description of the watches so it doesn't need repeating.  Though 
more expensive I chose to purchase the 42mm stainless steel watch with ;the 
magnetic strap. This strap is much easier to put on then the basic strap that 
comes with the sports watch in my opinion.My wife came with me and 
surprisingly decided to buy one for herself as well.

The 4 millimetre  size difference didn't seem very significant but I was able 
to tap with 3 fingers if I did it diagonally. So that tiny bit of real-estate 
might come in handy.

Unfortunately, the demos do not have VoiceOver available.

It is important to remember as well that there is a 15 day trial period so if 
for some reason you don't like it or find it beneficial enough simply return it.
 
Barry Abbott
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada

 On Apr 11, 2015, at 6:15 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 1. Yes, Samphire glass is only on the Apple Watch, not the Apple Watch Sport.
 
 2. The bands are purchased separately. The lowest price is for the most basic 
 plastic band.
 
 3. I have no information about Siri or VO voices.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12 Apr 2015, at 08:44, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports 
 model? 
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the 
 same, the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens 
 (which remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  
 would be controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else 
 who has physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo 
 because these are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look 
 forward to reading others experiences. 
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for 
 me.  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I 
 asked him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, 
 but low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a 
 Braille watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille 
 watch for than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of 
 my hair or my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is 
 on my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
 

RE: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-12 Thread Myrna Votta
Hi,

Thanks to all of you who gave us feedback after visiting an Apple store  I 
have one question.  Although you could not hear voiceover because the watches 
were set to be demos, was there any opportunity to hear anything from the 
watch's speaker?  Knowing Apple products, the speaker is probably clear, but, 
since the watches are small, I wonder how clear.

Myrna



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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 2:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

Hi, 

I also visited my local Apple store in Liverpool today to see the new watch. 
I normally wear a Seiko braille watch and I am also lucky enough to own a Tisot 
 vibrating watch. 
The Apple watch is significantly lighter than my Tisot watch and around the 
same as the Seiko. 
It isn't that much bigger than the Seiko but is smaller than the Tisot. 
I have to say on first impression I was impressed, more than I was expecting to 
be. 
I liked the Apple watch version with the Melanese strap preffering this to the 
link version which costs a good deal more. 
I don't know how much it will do for my life to be honest but I'm looking 
forward to finding out. 
One thing I can say it will be great to have a watch that my sighted piers 
might actually want to own as well as a watch that can do all the things that 
theirs have been able to do in various ways for years. 
Oh and it was very comfortable to wear and as someone who is very keen on 
fashion I shall not have any worries about being seen with it. 

Kind regards

Graham

Sent from my iPad

 On 11 Apr 2015, at 18:16, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me.  
 He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo program.  
 He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked him why, 
 he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a sports 
 watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the stainless steal 
 watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was heavier and 
 thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the crystal 
 saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  I 
 know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Eileen
Hello,

I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest all 
that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of when I 
was there. 

1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the magnetic 
clasp?
3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?

The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which voices 
would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, the 
battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which remains 
to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be controlled 
on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has physically gone 
to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these are only demo 
models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to reading others 
experiences. 

Cheers,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me.  
 He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo program.  
 He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked him why, 
 he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a sports 
 watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the stainless steal 
 watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was heavier and 
 thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the crystal 
 saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  I 
 know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

1. Yes, Samphire glass is only on the Apple Watch, not the Apple Watch Sport.

2. The bands are purchased separately. The lowest price is for the most basic 
plastic band.

3. I have no information about Siri or VO voices.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 12 Apr 2015, at 08:44, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, 
 the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which 
 remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be 
 controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has 
 physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these 
 are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to 
 reading others experiences. 
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me. 
  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked 
 him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Alex Hall
See below. Remember, I haven't seen one, so I'm going off research and others' 
comments.
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
Yes. The Sport uses regular Gorilla Glass, the other two use sapphire displays.
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
Depends on which band you choose. My understanding is that the leather one has 
the magnetic clasp, but others may as well. You buy your Watch and band, but 
you can get more bands if you want to.
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
No, not for sure.
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, 
 the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which 
 remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be 
 controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has 
 physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these 
 are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to 
 reading others experiences. 
According to apple.com http://apple.com/, the 42mm Watch will have slightly 
better battery life than the smaller model.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me. 
  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked 
 him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Graham
Hi, 

I also visited my local Apple store in Liverpool today to see the new watch. 
I normally wear a Seiko braille watch and I am also lucky enough to own a Tisot 
 vibrating watch. 
The Apple watch is significantly lighter than my Tisot watch and around the 
same as the Seiko. 
It isn't that much bigger than the Seiko but is smaller than the Tisot. 
I have to say on first impression I was impressed, more than I was expecting to 
be. 
I liked the Apple watch version with the Melanese strap preffering this to the 
link version which costs a good deal more. 
I don't know how much it will do for my life to be honest but I'm looking 
forward to finding out. 
One thing I can say it will be great to have a watch that my sighted piers 
might actually want to own as well as a watch that can do all the things that 
theirs have been able to do in various ways for years. 
Oh and it was very comfortable to wear and as someone who is very keen on 
fashion I shall not have any worries about being seen with it. 

Kind regards

Graham

Sent from my iPad

 On 11 Apr 2015, at 18:16, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me.  
 He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo program.  
 He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked him why, 
 he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a sports 
 watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the stainless steal 
 watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was heavier and 
 thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the crystal 
 saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  I 
 know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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RE: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Rick Alfaro
Kawal,

From what I've heard, Alex is not on the Apple watch. I believe your choices 
are Simantha, Karen, Daniel and I'm not sure what else but not Alex. I would 
imagine probably due to memory constraints. I believe David Woobridge made 
reference to this in his blog post.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:17 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

Hello.

Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
minute walk.

So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of watches 
to me.

Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me.  
He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo program.  
He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked him why, he 
said he could not tell me.

So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was very 
light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a woman 
would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it very 
elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without having 
to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for instance, 
you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the melanese 
bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a sports watch and 
they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the stainless steal watch.  That 
I thought was definitely for a man as it was heavier and thicker.  The person 
told me that it was thicker because of the crystal saffire glass.  

My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.

The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could understand 
that and I'd not go for that model.

I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.

For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  I 
know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but low 
and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.

Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.

I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility built 
in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my gadgets 
but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille watch, or 
a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for than 20 years 
but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or my dog's hair, I 
don't know.

I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on my 
Apple watch then I'll be pleased.

Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch has 
bluetooth!

Kawal.

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I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
minute walk.

So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of watches 
to me.

Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me.  
He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo program.  
He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked him why, he 
said he could not tell me.

So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was very 
light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a woman 
would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it very 
elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without having 
to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for instance, 
you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the melanese 
bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a sports watch and 
they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the stainless steal watch.  That 
I thought was definitely for a man as it was heavier and thicker.  The person 
told me that it was thicker because of the crystal saffire glass.  

My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.

The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could understand 
that and I'd not go for that model.

I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.

For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  I 
know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but low 
and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.

Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.

I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility built 
in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my gadgets 
but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille watch, or 
a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for than 20 years 
but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or my dog's hair, I 
don't know.

I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on my 
Apple watch then I'll be pleased.

Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch has 
bluetooth!

Kawal.

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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Oh my god I can see the age gap now. it’s incredible how from generation to 
generation some can understand things that are going on and others just bite 
the apple :)

And the discussion is now about what bracelet to buy and how to get the 
bracelet one wants.

Fashion is on this mailing list. I love it. No really, i find it super duper 
cute. Ok seriously boys and girls, enjoy your new toy when you get it and 
report back on whether I’ll be able to make a hotspot with the watch for my 
apple TV while I’m taking a dump in the plane on the way to south america.

Take care yall lol 



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 On 12/04/2015, at 10:01 am, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From my understanding of what the watch specialist told me, yes, it is 
 interchangable. As far as what to what, i'm not sure. But, you can also 
 configure your apple sport watch to the apple watch strap itself.
 
 From my prospective, i don't see why not. The watch shape itself doesn't 
 change. the 38MM and 42MM have the same shape, just make from different 
 material. If you keep the 38mm size within the 38mm straps, and the 42mm 
 within the 42mm straps, i don't see how it won't work. Especially when we are 
 talking between the watch and the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
 Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could 
 be totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few unsure  points, 
 as just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are 
 still pretty much  learning as they go.
 
 
 Joanne
  Chua
 Send from my iPad
 
 On 12 Apr 2015, at 9:08, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com 
 mailto:listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 You guys are quite sure that the strap on the Apple Watch Sport can be 
 changed for one that is supplied for the Apple Watch?
 
 Why doesn’t Apple list those straps alongside the Sport, then?
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I was told, if I wanted the melanese bracelet, I was to purchase the Sports 
model first with the strap and then make a separate purchase for the bracelet.

I did want to see the really expensive one, the one made of gold, but was told 
that none of the Apple stores would have those for demo purposes.

One thing I do know though, RNIB here in the UK will make a big thing of this 
watch as I can imagine they are thinking at last, accessibility comes to the 
main stream watches.  I wonder.

Kawal.
On 11 Apr 2015, at 22:50, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

See below. Remember, I haven't seen one, so I'm going off research and others' 
comments.
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
Yes. The Sport uses regular Gorilla Glass, the other two use sapphire displays.
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
Depends on which band you choose. My understanding is that the leather one has 
the magnetic clasp, but others may as well. You buy your Watch and band, but 
you can get more bands if you want to.
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
No, not for sure.
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, 
 the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which 
 remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be 
 controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has 
 physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these 
 are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to 
 reading others experiences. 
According to apple.com, the 42mm Watch will have slightly better battery life 
than the smaller model.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me. 
  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked 
 him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi, you are right, that was what i got told too. And you can add ons with 
different straps later.
I too, like how it feel, and indeed, it is one of the lighter, if not similar 
weight as a normal ordinary watch.
I'm still considering getting one, if my budget allow.


Joanne Chua
Send from my iPad

 On 12 Apr 2015, at 8:18, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I was told, if I wanted the melanese bracelet, I was to purchase the Sports 
 model first with the strap and then make a separate purchase for the bracelet.
 
 I did want to see the really expensive one, the one made of gold, but was 
 told that none of the Apple stores would have those for demo purposes.
 
 One thing I do know though, RNIB here in the UK will make a big thing of this 
 watch as I can imagine they are thinking at last, accessibility comes to the 
 main stream watches.  I wonder.
 
 Kawal.
 On 11 Apr 2015, at 22:50, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 See below. Remember, I haven't seen one, so I'm going off research and 
 others' comments.
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model?
 Yes. The Sport uses regular Gorilla Glass, the other two use sapphire 
 displays.
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
 Depends on which band you choose. My understanding is that the leather one 
 has the magnetic clasp, but others may as well. You buy your Watch and band, 
 but you can get more bands if you want to.
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
 No, not for sure.
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the 
 same, the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens 
 (which remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  
 would be controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else 
 who has physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo 
 because these are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look 
 forward to reading others experiences.
 According to apple.com, the 42mm Watch will have slightly better battery life 
 than the smaller model.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for 
 me.  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I 
 asked him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, 
 but low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a 
 Braille watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille 
 watch for than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of 
 my hair or my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is 
 on my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, 

Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You guys are quite sure that the strap on the Apple Watch Sport can be changed 
for one that is supplied for the Apple Watch?

Why doesn’t Apple list those straps alongside the Sport, then?

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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Joanne Chua
From my understanding of what the watch specialist told me, yes, it is 
interchangable. As far as what to what, i'm not sure. But, you can also 
configure your apple sport watch to the apple watch strap itself.

From my prospective, i don't see why not. The watch shape itself doesn't 
change. the 38MM and 42MM have the same shape, just make from different 
material. If you keep the 38mm size within the 38mm straps, and the 42mm 
within the 42mm straps, i don't see how it won't work. Especially when we are 
talking between the watch and the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could be 
totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few unsure  points, as 
just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are 
still pretty much  learning as they go.


Joanne
 Chua
Send from my iPad

 On 12 Apr 2015, at 9:08, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 You guys are quite sure that the strap on the Apple Watch Sport can be 
 changed for one that is supplied for the Apple Watch?
 
 Why doesn’t Apple list those straps alongside the Sport, then?
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Joanne Chua
From my understanding of what the watch specialist told me, yes, it is 
interchangable. As far as what to what, i'm not sure. But, you can also 
configure your apple sport watch to the apple watch strap itself.

From my prospective, i don't see why not. The watch shape itself doesn't 
change. the 38MM and 42MM have the same shape, just make from different 
material. If you keep the 38mm size within the 38mm straps, and the 42mm 
within the 42mm straps, i don't see how it won't work. Especially when we are 
talking between the watch and the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could be 
totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few unsure  points, as 
just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are 
still pretty much  learning as they go.


Joanne
 Chua
Send from my iPad

 On 12 Apr 2015, at 9:08, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 You guys are quite sure that the strap on the Apple Watch Sport can be 
 changed for one that is supplied for the Apple Watch?
 
 Why doesn’t Apple list those straps alongside the Sport, then?
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Eileen
Hello,

 

I decided to Google Apple Watch bands to see what the cost would be to purchase 
the melanase band. My understanding from the site is that you can interchange 
the bands as long as you get a band that corresponds to the size of the watch 
itself. So, the 38 mm bands will fit the 38 mm watch and the 42 mm bands will 
fit the 42 mm. Oh by the way, the cost for the melanase 38 mm band is $149. So 
if you add up the sports watch (38 mm), the melanase band, and Apple Care the 
US $ cost is roughly $557. This figure does not include tax. I did ask about 
the cost of the stainless steel with the melanase band and that sits at $649 
without the Apple Care or tax. I am concern about the Gorilla glass being used 
on the sport watch. 

Best, 
Eileen 


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 11, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From my understanding of what the watch specialist told me, yes, it is 
 interchangable. As far as what to what, i'm not sure. But, you can also 
 configure your apple sport watch to the apple watch strap itself.
 
 From my prospective, i don't see why not. The watch shape itself doesn't 
 change. the 38MM and 42MM have the same shape, just make from different 
 material. If you keep the 38mm size within the 38mm straps, and the 42mm 
 within the 42mm straps, i don't see how it won't work. Especially when we are 
 talking between the watch and the sport and perhaps the edition itself.
 Again, that is my understanding, and that is how she put it to me. It could 
 be totally wrong, in fact, i think, they have quite a few unsure  points, 
 as just learn the product themselves within the last 48 or 72 hours, they are 
 still pretty much  learning as they go.
 
 
 Joanne
  Chua
 Send from my iPad
 
 On 12 Apr 2015, at 9:08, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
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 Why doesn’t Apple list those straps alongside the Sport, then?
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Eileen,
My understanding is that there is no Siri voide, but that voice over will read 
the Siri text. So you will hear Siri speak in whichever VO voice you have 
chosen, but not in the usual siri voice.

 On 12/04/2015, at 8:44 am, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, 
 the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which 
 remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be 
 controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has 
 physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these 
 are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to 
 reading others experiences. 
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me. 
  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked 
 him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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