Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-05 Thread William Windels
Hello Zachary and others,

I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but when I 
run the installer, I receive a message like:
xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or 
commandline support (10.4) deselected.
 
I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store for 4 
euro.

Is this the way I should solve that problem?

Thanx alot for your answer,

best regards,
William Windels
Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende geschreven:

 Thanks.
 
 I will give that a try.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg file 
 you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That automatically makes 
 the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run port 
 install pianobar.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 So, then, how would I install pianobar
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways 
 to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though the 
 latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites like 
 www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among many 
 other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
 it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
 terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
 actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
 interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
 based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! Also 
 could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
 aptitude install packagename?
 
 I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
 Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
 bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 4 
 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-05 Thread Jon Cohn
If you insert the disk that has Snow Leopard on it, either the purchased one or 
the DVD that came with your computer, you will find an installer for xCode 3 on 
it.  This should be sufficient.  XCode 4 is needed for development of Lion 
and/or IOS 5 applications, to the best of my knowledge.  

Jon

On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Windels wrote:

 Hello Zachary and others,
 
 I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but when I 
 run the installer, I receive a message like:
 xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or 
 commandline support (10.4) deselected.
 
 I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store for 
 4 euro.
 
 Is this the way I should solve that problem?
 
 Thanx alot for your answer,
 
 best regards,
 William Windels
 Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Thanks.
 
 I will give that a try.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
 file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That automatically 
 makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run 
 port install pianobar.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 So, then, how would I install pianobar
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways 
 to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though 
 the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites 
 like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among 
 many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
 it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
 terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
 actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
 interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
 based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
 Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
 aptitude install packagename?
 
 I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
 Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
 bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 
 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No no no.  there's an easier way.  Put your snowleopard dvd in, and go in 
the finder to the optional installs folder.  You'll find an mpkg file under 
there to install x code.  the version from the app store doesn't work. 
Trust me I tried.


Chris.

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From: William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hello Zachary and others,

I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but when 
I run the installer, I receive a message like:
xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or 
commandline support (10.4) deselected.


I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store 
for 4 euro.


Is this the way I should solve that problem?

Thanx alot for your answer,

best regards,
William Windels
Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende 
geschreven:



Thanks.

I will give that a try.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That 
automatically makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that 
you can just run port install pianobar.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are 
ways to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, 
though the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider 
sites like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of 
pianobar among many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! 
believe it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get 
to a terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could 
one actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install 
or aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 
or 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
and the installer's sort of berried, be aware.  It's gonna be in your 
optional installs folder.  If you'd like I'll grab my dvd and get you guys 
the exact path on the disc.


Chris.

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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


If you insert the disk that has Snow Leopard on it, either the purchased one 
or the DVD that came with your computer, you will find an installer for 
xCode 3 on it.  This should be sufficient.  XCode 4 is needed for 
development of Lion and/or IOS 5 applications, to the best of my knowledge.


Jon

On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Windels wrote:


Hello Zachary and others,

I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but 
when I run the installer, I receive a message like:
xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or 
commandline support (10.4) deselected.


I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store 
for 4 euro.


Is this the way I should solve that problem?

Thanx alot for your answer,

best regards,
William Windels
Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende 
geschreven:



Thanks.

I will give that a try.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That 
automatically makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that 
you can just run port install pianobar.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline 
zkl...@speedpost.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are 
ways to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, 
though the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think. 
Consider sites like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy 
of pianobar among many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! 
believe it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to 
get to a terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, 
could one actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a 
graffic interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line 
only Linux based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely 
flawlessly! Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like 
apt-get install or aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could 
run Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 
or 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris.
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Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly!  Also 
could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with bootcamp, 
but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 4 things 
from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris. 


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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways to 
make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though the 
latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites like 
www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among many 
other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe it 
 or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a terminal 
 shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one actually run 
 Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic interface?  For 
 example, there is a really nice command line only Linux based Pandora player 
 called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly!  Also could one install apt 
 then do things on a mac like apt-get install or aptitude install packagename?
 
 I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
 Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with bootcamp, 
 but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 4 things from 
 Linux that I'd like to port over.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Chris. 
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways 
to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though the 
latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites like 
www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among many 
other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 
4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg file 
you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That automatically makes 
the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run port 
install pianobar.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 So, then, how would I install pianobar
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways to 
 make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though the 
 latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites like 
 www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among many 
 other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
 Hope this helps,
 Zack.
 On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
 it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
 terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
 actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
 interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
 based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! Also 
 could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
 aptitude install packagename?
 
 I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
 Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with bootcamp, 
 but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 4 things 
 from Linux that I'd like to port over.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Thanks.

I will give that a try.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That automatically 
makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run 
port install pianobar.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways 
to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though 
the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites 
like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar 
among many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! 
believe it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get 
to a terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install 
or aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 
4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris.
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Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Oh, true.  I didn't think a that either.

Good point.

Chris.

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From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


TO add to my last message, it'd actually turn into sudo port install 
pianobar, since technically you don't have full admin rights by default. 
Just give your password when prompted.

Best,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:


Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That 
automatically makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that 
you can just run port install pianobar.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal


Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are 
ways to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, 
though the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider 
sites like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of 
pianobar among many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.

Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! 
believe it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get 
to a terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could 
one actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install 
or aptitude install packagename?


I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 
or 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.


Thanks.

Chris.
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