Re: Message Table?
Sometimes this is automatic, depending on the folder you’re in. But I believe in the view menu, there is a selector for which columns are to be added. This might depend on whether you were in class if you were standard view, which is called something else now. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2022, at 10:17 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote: > > Hi, Group. > My email messages are in a five column table: Subject, date, from etc. > Lately, From column, for some unknown reasons, is replaced with To column > and I don’t like it. > How can I go back to From column again, please? > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/21165C7C-4F50-416D-A2F6-5AB14F0F77CD%40outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3C141DD5-B797-4239-8C21-3E07943CE984%40gmail.com.
Message Table?
Hi, Group. My email messages are in a five column table: Subject, date, from etc. Lately, From column, for some unknown reasons, is replaced with To column and I don’t like it. How can I go back to From column again, please? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/21165C7C-4F50-416D-A2F6-5AB14F0F77CD%40outlook.com.
Email Message Table?
Hi, Group. When I go to message table in Mail, I find five columns in this table: Status, From, Subject etc. Now I do not find From column. I find To Column instead. How can I go back to From Column again, please? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DS7PR20MB4159247DF81970C4DF927708C9E59%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Reading Messages in Message Table?
2022-11-07 15:02 GMT, Mohammad Fazil : > Hi, group. > I am using Native Mail in my Macbook-Pro 2017. Messages are in a > five-column-table and I am happy with this table. > I subscribe to several email list and messages from all the lists come in > this Inbox. > The third column of this five-column table shows the name of the individual > sender but not the email list where the message is from. > How should I know the name of the list whose message I am reading, please? > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AFED6071-D759-4E79-A0E2-0038CFE13C81%40outlook.com. > -- Luís E-mail: lamarque...@gmail.com MSN/WLM: lc_89...@hotmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAB5uiwtVg%2B_-NwUZaqmxCM_9iw%3DaZdUDBLhrBniM73DymXwLTg%40mail.gmail.com.
Reading Messages in Message Table?
Hi, group. I am using Native Mail in my Macbook-Pro 2017. Messages are in a five-column-table and I am happy with this table. I subscribe to several email list and messages from all the lists come in this Inbox. The third column of this five-column table shows the name of the individual sender but not the email list where the message is from. How should I know the name of the list whose message I am reading, please? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/AFED6071-D759-4E79-A0E2-0038CFE13C81%40outlook.com.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi Thanks to you for trying to help us figure this out. When I follow the steps to set a short cut key to move to top of email list, it still takes me to the sort by date button. vo down arrow takes me to the top of the message list, even though I've set it to go to the visible end. Could my inbox be set to really small size? I've pressed the zoom button but don't actually know how big it is or should be. Is there a way to set mail to go back to defaults, preferably without losing my accounts and messages? Lisette On 21/06/2012, at 5:58 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump sub menu! If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H hth Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 05:17, Les Kriegler wrote: I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hello Lisette, I'm a bit confused as to how you're viewing your mail. I find Classic View to be simplest and I get rid of the preview pane. In this way, I have the list of my mailboxes on the left and a list of messages on the right. I press Return to open a message and VO reads it straight through. Command-w closes the message again. To set up Mail in this way, go to Mail Preferences (Command-Comma) and select Viewing in the toolbar. Then check the Use classic layout check box. Press Command-w to close the preferences. If your mailboxes are not visible, try pressing Command-Shift-m. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Colin, I have gone through all 13 categories and I can not locate the option you reference. I will check again. Apple definitely removed the Jump option, as it is not in the category list, I also checked with VO H-H. Les On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump sub menu! If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H hth Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 05:17, Les Kriegler wrote: I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi Colin, Okay, at least for the moment, I can go to the top and bottom of the message list! It works under Navigation, Go to Beginning for Option 1, and Go to End with Option 2. Thanks for working this through with me; it kept me going until I finally nailed it. Les On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump sub menu! If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H hth Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 05:17, Les Kriegler wrote: I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: Moving to top of message table
shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Moving to top of message table
Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Can you explain how you set up Right Option 1 and 2 to tho to bottom of message table and top of message table? I went into VO Utility, Keyboard Commander, chose Right Option 1, but could not find the appropriate action to assign that keystroke. Thanks. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Moving to top of message table
Okay, great. I missed the last part, going to visible top and visible end. Thank you. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Moving to top of message table
Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: Moving to top of message table
The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: Moving to top of message table
Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Moving to top of message table
Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi again! I've checked and that is the right command to pick from the Jump sub menu! If you wish to check it out 1st just press! VO+shift+J and then straight away VO+shift+down arrow and you should find yourself at the bottom of the page still in the same column as you were! And then do the same [but adding the up arrow] and you should be at the top! You do not need the most visible top or bottom items just the most top or bottom items from the Jump sub menu! hth Colin Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: Moving to top of message table
I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checkit! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: Moving to top of message table
Hi there! OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump sub menu! If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H hth Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 05:17, Les Kriegler wrote: I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed? Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and check it! 2, press command+8 and this will take you to the commanders, and go and select the Keyboard commander tab! 3, you can enable keyboard commander, then next you can choose which option key you wish to use! [it should be on the right one by default] 4, now you can go to the table of shortcuts [and there will be some already there] like option+T for the time and option+S for safari! Next to the table is the add button select it! 5, The 1st field is where you put the key you wish to use [have the key in mind]because it must be put in 1st! 6, Next is the menu of commands you want to use! So pick the Navigation sub menu and if you want to set the option to go to the top and stay in the same column pick the [go to most visible top or for the end most visible end! hth colin On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:58, Traci wrote: I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :) Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for the bottom! That command is set to keep me in the same column so if I start in Subject I stay in Subject! hth Colin PS. I'm still on Snowy Kitty! On 20 Jun 2012, at 21:44, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called select by date menu button. I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions? I'm on a macbook pro hence the need for the fn key. Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
VO says the word text when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a message. Is this what you are referring to? On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Something that sounds like Eck when leaving message table and Entering a Message to read
Hi, Good catch, Greg. Pete can probably check this if he slows down his speech. VO+J only works if you still have the Mail Preview Pane showing (which is the default set up for Mail). Cheers, Esther On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:32, Greg Aikens wrote: VO says the word text when I use VO+J to move from the message table to a message. Is this what you are referring to? On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Anyone else noticing this? I'm running 10.6.6 on an MBP late '08 model 2.42ghz if that helps anyone. Tia. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then collapse. At least for now. Jane On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. Ive been able to do it before. S On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote: I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then collapse. At least for now. Jane On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
Greetings Frank and others, I went into voiceOver utility - navigation and unchecked:automatically interact when using tab key. Now I can use the right and left arrowkeys to expand and contract threads respectivly, and since I retained my preview pane, the tab key usually causes VO to read the highlighted message. HTH. Geoff On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. Ive been able to do it before. S On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote: I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then collapse. At least for now. Jane On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
Hi Geoff and all I do not have automatically interact when using tab key checked. I don't have the preview pain visible either. It's just when I collapse the thread that this happens. Hopefully someone will know what I need. Thanks much --FC On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Frank and others, I went into voiceOver utility - navigation and unchecked:automatically interact when using tab key. Now I can use the right and left arrowkeys to expand and contract threads respectivly, and since I retained my preview pane, the tab key usually causes VO to read the highlighted message. HTH. Geoff On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. Ive been able to do it before. S On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote: I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then collapse. At least for now. Jane On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
message table
HI all, How please, do I stop my mac reading the words subject, date received and buddy when going through the mail table? It driving me mad! :) Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: message table
no under web I only see announce column number etc. it still saying date etc lol maybe if i uncheck things in view menu of mail, it will work? On May 9, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Yes, that'd be it. On May 9, 2010, at 3:11 AM, william lomas wrote: where is it in the utility? I onl see reference to announce coumns or something is that it? On May 9, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Hi Wiliam, I was never sure what hat buddy column was for, so I unchecked it in the view menu. If you don't want column names to be announced, you can uncheck that in VO utility. On May 9, 2010, at 3:01 AM, william lomas wrote: HI all, How please, do I stop my mac reading the words subject, date received and buddy when going through the mail table? It driving me mad! :) Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
