Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Alex Hall]

Yes, but doing that then requires the password for any app or media purchase, 
plus disables Touch ID lock for any app that supports it. I figured typing some 
numbers on a familiarly laid-out keypad would be far easier than needing to 
type a password on an unfamiliar keyboard. Again, this person doesn't type at 
all.

--
Alex Hall




> On Apr 19, 2017, at 03:47, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> You can't still setup the iPad or phone without needing to have the screen 
> lock pin or fingerprint enable,
> 
> Possibly a good idea until such time as they are comfortable with using the 
> device,
> 
> Yes the speed dots sound like a great way to start, guess finding the correct 
> one for starting with would be the problem.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 5:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
> 
> Thanks, everyone, for all the input. I'll look into getting a Speed Dots 
> fitted over the Otterbox.
> 
> Simon, yes, the product you described is exactly what Speed Dots is. They 
> make a variety of screen protectors that come with dots. Some have dots for 
> all keyboard keys, some for just f and j, and so on.
> 
> As to the dial pad, I was talking about unlocking the device. If I'm not 
> around and the client needs to use the iPad, Touch ID could fail and they'd 
> be stuck. Also, Touch ID requires the passcode after a couple days of 
> inactivity, and at this early stage, the client is likely to leave the iPad 
> alone for long enough to cause such a lockout. I want them to be able to get 
> into the iPad on their own, be it with Touch ID or a code.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 19:36, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?
>> 
>> Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
>> siri?
>> 
>> I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how 
>> to dial and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to 
>> use a dial pad Isn't that something most people know these days?
>> 
>> And learning the keyboard on an IOS
>> Device would be very fine finger work.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert
>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:10 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
>> 
>> Good morning, Alex.
>> I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce 
>> too many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of 
>> what you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model 
>> without the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a 
>> computer, and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are 
>> anyway. I would also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely 
>> necissary. Siri can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be 
>> a concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things on 
>> the touch screen.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts,
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On 4/17/17, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
>>> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting 
>>> on an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the 
>>> screen to explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the 
>>> screen.
>>> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
>>> having markers on the screen, of course.
>>> 
>>> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
>>> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but 
>>> with iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the 
>>> prompt to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a 
>>> whole different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode 
>>> for an update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually 
>>> presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This 
>>> client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet

RE: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Alex,

 You can't still setup the iPad or phone without needing to have the screen 
lock pin or fingerprint enable,

 Possibly a good idea until such time as they are comfortable with using the 
device,

 Yes the speed dots sound like a great way to start, guess finding the correct 
one for starting with would be the problem.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 5:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

Thanks, everyone, for all the input. I'll look into getting a Speed Dots fitted 
over the Otterbox.

Simon, yes, the product you described is exactly what Speed Dots is. They make 
a variety of screen protectors that come with dots. Some have dots for all 
keyboard keys, some for just f and j, and so on.

As to the dial pad, I was talking about unlocking the device. If I'm not around 
and the client needs to use the iPad, Touch ID could fail and they'd be stuck. 
Also, Touch ID requires the passcode after a couple days of inactivity, and at 
this early stage, the client is likely to leave the iPad alone for long enough 
to cause such a lockout. I want them to be able to get into the iPad on their 
own, be it with Touch ID or a code.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 19:36, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?
> 
> Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
> siri?
> 
> I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how 
> to dial and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to 
> use a dial pad Isn't that something most people know these days?
> 
> And learning the keyboard on an IOS
> Device would be very fine finger work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
> 
> Good morning, Alex.
> I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce 
> too many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of 
> what you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model 
> without the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a 
> computer, and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are 
> anyway. I would also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely 
> necissary. Siri can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be 
> a concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things on 
> the touch screen.
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/17/17, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
>> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting 
>> on an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the 
>> screen to explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen.
>> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
>> having markers on the screen, of course.
>> 
>> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
>> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but 
>> with iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the 
>> prompt to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a 
>> whole different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode 
>> for an update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually 
>> presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This 
>> client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on 
>> the keys won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. 
>> And yet, some people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure 
>> what to suggest.
>> 
>> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they 
>> really helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed 
>> incorrectly for the current application? Has anyone found it easier 
>> to just toss some tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want 
>> them?
>> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks, everyone, for all the input. I'll look into getting a Speed Dots fitted 
over the Otterbox.

Simon, yes, the product you described is exactly what Speed Dots is. They make 
a variety of screen protectors that come with dots. Some have dots for all 
keyboard keys, some for just f and j, and so on.

As to the dial pad, I was talking about unlocking the device. If I'm not around 
and the client needs to use the iPad, Touch ID could fail and they'd be stuck. 
Also, Touch ID requires the passcode after a couple days of inactivity, and at 
this early stage, the client is likely to leave the iPad alone for long enough 
to cause such a lockout. I want them to be able to get into the iPad on their 
own, be it with Touch ID or a code.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 19:36, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?
> 
> Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
> siri?
> 
> I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how to 
> dial and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to use a 
> dial pad 
> Isn't that something most people know these days?
> 
> And learning the keyboard on an IOS 
> Device would be very fine finger work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
> 
> Good morning, Alex.
> I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce 
> too many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of 
> what you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model 
> without the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a 
> computer, and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are 
> anyway. I would also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely 
> necissary. Siri can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be 
> a concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things on 
> the touch screen.
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/17/17, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
>> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on 
>> an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to 
>> explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. 
>> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
>> having markers on the screen, of course.
>> 
>> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
>> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with 
>> iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt 
>> to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole 
>> different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode for an 
>> update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually presents the 
>> numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This client isn't 
>> using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys won't 
>> be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
>> people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to suggest.
>> 
>> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
>> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for 
>> the current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some 
>> tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? 
>> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott,

 I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?

Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
siri?

I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how to dial 
and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to use a dial 
pad 
Isn't that something most people know these days?

And learning the keyboard on an IOS 
Device would be very fine finger work.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Davert
Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

Good morning, Alex.
I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce too 
many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of what 
you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model without 
the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a computer, 
and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are anyway. I would 
also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely necissary. Siri can 
dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be a concept for later 
once the client has gotten used to activating things on the touch screen.

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 4/17/17, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on 
> an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to 
> explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. 
> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
> having markers on the screen, of course.
>
> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with 
> iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt 
> to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole 
> different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode for an 
> update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually presents the 
> numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This client isn't 
> using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys won't 
> be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
> people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to suggest.
>
> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for 
> the current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some 
> tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? 
> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
>
> --
> Alex Hall
>
>
>
>
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RE: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi alex

Isn’t there a product available like a a screen protector that has dots already 
printed for some of the characters / features on the screen of the iPhone or 
iPad?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 17 April 2017 10:06 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

Hello all,
I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does not type at 
all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on an iPad, because of 
the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to explore it, and so on. One 
difficulty is orientation on the screen. We're using the home button as a 
reference, but that's not as good as having markers on the screen, of course.

My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used one, so I 
don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with iOS, things aren't 
always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt to enter your passcode when 
TouchID isn't an option has a whole different number pad than the prompt to 
provide your passcode for an update, and entering a phone number on the iPad 
actually presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This 
client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys 
won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to suggest.

For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really helpful? 
Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for the current 
application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some tactile dots on a 
screen protector, exactly where you want them? Thanks for any thoughts on this.

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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Alex,

Never used them on the iPad, but have used them on an iPhone.  As others have 
suggested, since this person doesn't type, I'd probably not go with the qwerty 
keyboard model, as having that many dots might just be confusing.  But I do 
think the other model would provide the orientation that you are looking for.
Best,
Donna
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:06 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does not type 
> at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on an iPad, 
> because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to explore it, and 
> so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. We're using the home 
> button as a reference, but that's not as good as having markers on the 
> screen, of course.
> 
> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used one, so I 
> don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with iOS, things 
> aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt to enter your 
> passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole different number pad than 
> the prompt to provide your passcode for an update, and entering a phone 
> number on the iPad actually presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like 
> layout at all. This client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so 
> having dots on the keys won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the 
> future. And yet, some people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not 
> sure what to suggest.
> 
> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for the 
> current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some tactile 
> dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? Thanks for any 
> thoughts on this.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Stacey Robinson]

Alex,
I’ve used speed dots protectors on iPhones and they are helpful. I got to a 
point where I don’t need a screen protector at all anymore.
I would highly recommend speed dots products.
Peace,  
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:06 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does not type 
> at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on an iPad, 
> because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to explore it, and 
> so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. We're using the home 
> button as a reference, but that's not as good as having markers on the 
> screen, of course
> 
> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used one, so I 
> don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with iOS, things 
> aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt to enter your 
> passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole different number pad than 
> the prompt to provide your passcode for an update, and entering a phone 
> number on the iPad actually presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like 
> layout at all This client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so 
> having dots on the keys won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the 
> future. And yet, some people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not 
> sure what to suggest.
> 
> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for the 
> current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some tactile 
> dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? Thanks for any 
> thoughts on this.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello Alex,


As you're starting out with an iPad, the SpeedDots tactile screen 
protectors are very helpful. You are able to orient properly, (such as 
showing the tabs at the top of the screen in apps like Safari and mail), 
and for certain keys on the keyboard such as extra punctuation and 
finding the "delete" or "hide keyboard" buttons. Also, there is a dot in 
the middle of the screen to "dismiss" the pop-up dialogs that can appear 
when wanting you to make a choice from a series of items.


the tactile screen protectors are organized, so dropping dots on a 
regular screen protector while understandable, may not serve you well in 
all apps.


for instance, you'll be able to find the edit/back/search buttons much 
easier with a defined dot. I find even long-time iPhone users, once 
going to the iPad experience some disorientation at first, having so 
much more screen real-estate to handle. So having tabs at the top and 
bottom, (depending on the app), clearly defined is a huge time saver.


Hope that helps,

Rachel.

On 4/17/2017 3:06 AM, Alex Hall wrote:


Hello all,
I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on 
an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to 
explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. 
We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
having markers on the screen, of course.


My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with 
iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt 
to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole 
different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode for an 
update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually presents the 
numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This client isn't 
using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys won't 
be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to 
suggest.


For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for 
the current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some 
tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? 
Thanks for any thoughts on this.


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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Scott Davert]

Good morning, Alex.
I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you
introduce too many applications at once, that it can be more
confusing. In the case of what you are describing, given the info I
have, I would suggest the model without the qwerty keyboard dots on
it, since this person has never used a computer, and therefor,
probably doesn't understand where the keys are anyway. I would also
suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely necissary. Siri
can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be a
concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things
on the touch screen.

Just my thoughts,
Scott

On 4/17/17, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does not type
> at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on an iPad,
> because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to explore it,
> and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. We're using the home
> button as a reference, but that's not as good as having markers on the
> screen, of course.
>
> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used one, so I
> don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with iOS, things
> aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt to enter your
> passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole different number pad than
> the prompt to provide your passcode for an update, and entering a phone
> number on the iPad actually presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like
> layout at all. This client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so
> having dots on the keys won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the
> future. And yet, some people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not
> sure what to suggest.
>
> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really
> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for the
> current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some tactile
> dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? Thanks for any
> thoughts on this.
>
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Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Alex Hall]

Hello all,
I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does not type at 
all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on an iPad, because of 
the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to explore it, and so on. One 
difficulty is orientation on the screen. We're using the home button as a 
reference, but that's not as good as having markers on the screen, of course.

My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used one, so I 
don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with iOS, things aren't 
always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt to enter your passcode when 
TouchID isn't an option has a whole different number pad than the prompt to 
provide your passcode for an update, and entering a phone number on the iPad 
actually presents the numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This 
client isn't using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys 
won't be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to suggest.

For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really helpful? 
Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for the current 
application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some tactile dots on a 
screen protector, exactly where you want them? Thanks for any thoughts on this.

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