Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?
Second this. OSX is pretty good about not allowing one user on one account to mangle things for another user on another account. I suspect you'll be much happier running native on just another account that you use for development. CB On 12/20/12 1:18 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Why not just have a separate user account created for yourself instead of a vm? I suppose it could even be an account without administrative permissions though that might create some problems. It seems to me that if you want to get an experience using Mac OS and you have a Mac to use, you are just adding another layer of complication by making a vm instead. Not trying to argue if this is really what you want to do but I really think you would be better off just running Mac OS on the Mac in the normal way. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote: My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support in the vm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?
My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support in the vm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?
My understanding is that Parallels is not accessible with VoiceOver. YOur best and perhaps only option is Fusion if you wish to virtualize OSX. Les On Dec 20, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote: My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support in the vm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?
No question here, fusion is the way to go. Parallels is completely inaccessible. People have been asking them to fix that for years, and they have no interest in doing so. Go with fusion. Original message: My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support in the vm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?
Why not just have a separate user account created for yourself instead of a vm? I suppose it could even be an account without administrative permissions though that might create some problems. It seems to me that if you want to get an experience using Mac OS and you have a Mac to use, you are just adding another layer of complication by making a vm instead. Not trying to argue if this is really what you want to do but I really think you would be better off just running Mac OS on the Mac in the normal way. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote: My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support in the vm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/3lW1CwJ6nYwJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Parallels or Fusion
I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels. Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better with VO than the other. In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion
I hear that Parallels has less lag than Fusion does, but all discussion I've heard regarding Parallels seems to be only that it is inaccessible with VO. I know of a lot of us VI Mac users who use Fusion. I myself use it and find it to quite a smooth experience with VO. Hth, Rose On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels. Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better with VO than the other. In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion
yeah. 1 works with vo, one doesn't. get fusion ash On 13/04/2011 21:23, Ronald McEwan wrote: I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels. Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better with VO than the other. In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Parallels or Fusion
Go with Fusion, parallels is not accessible with voiceover. For some reason, when parallels was developed, the company chose to use all nonstandard controls, I have no idea why, but they seem to have no interest in correcting this. On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels. Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better with VO than the other. In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
