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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-05-16 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

You need to go into the Firefox Settings

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On 5/16/2023 1:37 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

you have to have a subscription to get that far. I’ve been trying to figure out
how to fix the problem in Firefox. I read about it and it seems I’m looking for
a category called Permissions which I haven’t found yet.

On May 16, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Is it a site we pantry to see if we can help you out?
Bless.
/A

16 maj 2023 kl. 21:13 skrev Lorie McCloud :

I can’t even sign in there on Safari. I guess I’ll have to keep fooling around
with Firefox.

On May 16, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

You could try Safari and see if it works. Not sure if Firefox has this, but in
Safari, there is an option for settings for the site, and you can do things
like tell it to always allow pop ups.

On May 16, 2023, at 12:27, Lorie McCloud wrote:

While on the Coast to Coast am. website I tried to play something and Firefox
prevented the window from popping up. how do I change this? I did look in
preferences and settings but I couldn’t find anything that seemed to be related
to it.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-05-16 Thread Lorie McCloud

you have to have a subscription to get that far. I’ve been trying to figure out 
how to fix the problem in Firefox. I read about it and it seems I’m looking for 
a category called Permissions which I haven’t found yet.

> On May 16, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is it a site we pantry to see if we can help you out?
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 16 maj 2023 kl. 21:13 skrev Lorie McCloud :
>> 
>> I can’t even sign in there on Safari. I guess I’ll have to keep fooling 
>> around with Firefox.
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could try Safari and see if it works. Not sure if Firefox has this, but 
>>> in Safari, there is an option for settings for the site, and you can do 
>>> things like tell it to always allow pop ups.
>>> 
 On May 16, 2023, at 12:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 While on the Coast to Coast am. website I tried to play something and 
 Firefox prevented the window from popping up. how do I change this? I did 
 look in preferences and settings but I couldn’t find anything that seemed 
 to be related to it.
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-05-16 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Is it a site we pantry to see if we can help you out?
Bless.
/A

> 16 maj 2023 kl. 21:13 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> I can’t even sign in there on Safari. I guess I’ll have to keep fooling 
> around with Firefox.
> 
>> On May 16, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> You could try Safari and see if it works. Not sure if Firefox has this, but 
>> in Safari, there is an option for settings for the site, and you can do 
>> things like tell it to always allow pop ups.
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2023, at 12:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While on the Coast to Coast am. website I tried to play something and 
>>> Firefox prevented the window from popping up. how do I change this? I did 
>>> look in preferences and settings but I couldn’t find anything that seemed 
>>> to be related to it.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-05-16 Thread Lorie McCloud

I can’t even sign in there on Safari. I guess I’ll have to keep fooling around 
with Firefox.

> On May 16, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> You could try Safari and see if it works. Not sure if Firefox has this, but 
> in Safari, there is an option for settings for the site, and you can do 
> things like tell it to always allow pop ups.
> 
>> On May 16, 2023, at 12:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> While on the Coast to Coast am. website I tried to play something and 
>> Firefox prevented the window from popping up. how do I change this? I did 
>> look in preferences and settings but I couldn’t find anything that seemed to 
>> be related to it.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-05-16 Thread Herbie Allen

You could try Safari and see if it works. Not sure if Firefox has this, but in 
Safari, there is an option for settings for the site, and you can do things 
like tell it to always allow pop ups.

> On May 16, 2023, at 12:27, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> While on the Coast to Coast am. website I tried to play something and Firefox 
> prevented the window from popping up. how do I change this? I did look in 
> preferences and settings but I couldn’t find anything that seemed to be 
> related to it.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread Bradford Snyder

Sounds like the item on your Desktop was the volume icon.
I suspect that you did not hear VoiceOver say Volume, because you have not gone 
into your Finder preferences > Advanced, and enabled the toggle to show file 
extensions.

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On Feb 20, 2023, at 16:12, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

vo didn’t say volume but I pressed command e anyway and it went away.

> On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Bradford Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Lori
> 
> The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you end 
> up with a volume icon on your Desktop.
> When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver say 
> “Firefox Volume”, you can remove it by pressing CMD + E.
> If you do not hear VoiceOver say “Firefox Volume”, please let me know, and I 
> can advise further.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 13:43, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can 
> I delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?
> 
> thanks.
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   If the extension is .app then its good. If its .dmg it is not installed.

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On 2/20/2023 2:10 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

well, if I did that, I didn’t do it intentionally. I actually moved the 
installer to the apps folder.


On Feb 20, 2023, at 4:02 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   If this is in fact a volume it will open on Computer, not the desktop. 
Chances are its the installer that was downloaded to the desktop.

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On 2/20/2023 1:31 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:

Hi Lori
The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you end up 
with a volume icon on your Desktop.
When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver say 
“Firefox Volume”, you can remove it by pressing CMD + E.
If you do not hear VoiceOver say “Firefox Volume”, please let me know, and I 
can advise further.
HTH.
- Brad -
On Feb 20, 2023, at 13:43, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can I 
delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?
thanks.
Lorie
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread Lorie McCloud

vo didn’t say volume but I pressed command e anyway and it went away.

> On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> 
> The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you end 
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> When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver say 
> “Firefox Volume”, you can remove it by pressing CMD + E.
> If you do not hear VoiceOver say “Firefox Volume”, please let me know, and I 
> can advise further.
> 
> HTH.
> 
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> 
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> On Feb 20, 2023, at 13:43, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can 
> I delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread Lorie McCloud

well, if I did that, I didn’t do it intentionally. I actually moved the 
installer to the apps folder.

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> On 2/20/2023 1:31 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:
>> Hi Lori
>> The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you end 
>> up with a volume icon on your Desktop.
>> When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver say 
>> “Firefox Volume”, you can remove it by pressing CMD + E.
>> If you do not hear VoiceOver say “Firefox Volume”, please let me know, and I 
>> can advise further.
>> HTH.
>> - Brad -
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 13:43, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can 
>> I delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   If this is in fact a volume it will open on Computer, not the 
desktop. Chances are its the installer that was downloaded to the desktop.


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On 2/20/2023 1:31 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:

Hi Lori

The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you 
end up with a volume icon on your Desktop.
When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver 
say “Firefox Volume”, you can remove it by pressing CMD + E.
If you do not hear VoiceOver say “Firefox Volume”, please let me know, 
and I can advise further.


HTH.

- Brad -



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Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. 
can I delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?


thanks.
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread Bradford Snyder

Hi Lori

The Firefox installer you downloaded is a DMG.  When you open a DMG, you end up 
with a volume icon on your Desktop.
When you place focus on the item on your Desktop, if you hear VoiceOver say 
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HTH.

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Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can I 
delete it or is it supposed to be there. if I can delete it, how?

thanks.
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Re: Firefox on my Mac

2023-02-20 Thread maurice A. Mines

Good afternoon, if you're talking about your Mac you can move the 
program from applications to the trash. If you have to clear it your 
system will ask you to enter your password or use touch ID if you have a 
machine that has a touch bar. I hope this helps?



Sincerely Maurice Mines.


Please be aware, that I am dictating this to a virtual Windows machine. 
I hope this turns out ok?



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Firefox is on my desktop along with my drives ever since I installed it. can I 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn

OK, some step forward and some back.
1. Firefox 78 current version does not seem to support 
• Read Current character, word, sesentence, or line.
• The rotar still does not work.
• item list might work, NY TImes home page brought up about 90 items.
• Navigation commands to specific heading levels, font change, underlined text, 
bold text did not work.

Even more discouraging, Firefox nightly 80 currently is back to only reading 
where focus is, the rest of the web page is completely invisible to VoiceOVer.
Jonathan


> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for each 
> category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
> Original message:
>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
> 
>> Best wishes,
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>> Jonathan Cohn
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>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon > > wrote:
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>> I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I 
>> brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-07 Thread John Panarese

  Please let us know what you discover. I’m using 77 here I believe now.


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> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I just downloaded Firefox 78 which will become the next ESR version of 
> Firefox and hopefully I can see these rotors in action there. It would be 
> disappointing if the ESR version gets stuck with only partial VoiceOver 
> support as enterprises will be using it for at least a year forward.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo > > wrote:
>> 
>> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for 
>> each category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
>> Original message:
>>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon >>  >> >> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I 
>>> brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a 
>>> blank window.
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn

I just downloaded Firefox 78 which will become the next ESR version of Firefox 
and hopefully I can see these rotors in action there. It would be disappointing 
if the ESR version gets stuck with only partial VoiceOver support as 
enterprises will be using it for at least a year forward.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 2, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available for each 
> category, I think that support will be coming later this year.
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>> SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
>> every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-02 Thread Mike Arrigo

At this time voiceover just says there are no menu options available
for each category, I think that support will be coming later this year.

Original message:
SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all
or is every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Angus MacKinnon > wrote:

I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO +
I brings up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn

SO DOES THE ROTOR BRING UP NOTHING IN ANY CATEGORY, OR NOTHING AT all or is 
every list in it blank? Also, is this the production or beta?
 
Best wishes, 

Jonathan Cohn



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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-07-01 Thread Angus MacKinnon

I have found Firefox to work better with VoiceOver (VO). However, VO + I brings 
up a small list of Items (about 37 items). VO + U has nothing but a blank 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-06-29 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   Great, will play with this. Has Thunderbird been made accessible too?

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On 6/28/2020 11:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
I just downloaded Firefox 77 and Firefox 79 nightly on my system, and 
they have indeed made significant strides in interacting with VoiceOver. 
I only had a chance to review two or three sites. Sometimes, voiceOver 
would say unknown button, but if I moved forward and back it could then 
read the label for the button. I did not look at any advanced sites that 
use lots of JavaScript and have to manage focus, but first impressions 
were that this is something worth looking into.


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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-06-28 Thread John Panarese

 It is working much better than before. It’s a lot snappier and is, to me, 
quite usable now.


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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> Nice, please try some more sites when you can and keep us posted, it would be 
> awesome if firefox became as accessible on the mac as it is on Windows.
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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>> I just downloaded Firefox 77 and Firefox 79 nightly on my system, and they 
>> have indeed made significant strides in interacting with VoiceOver. I only 
>> had a chance to review two or three sites. Sometimes, voiceOver would say 
>> unknown button, but if I moved forward and back it could then read the label 
>> for the button. I did not look at any advanced sites that use lots of 
>> JavaScript and have to manage focus, but first impressions were that this is 
>> something worth looking into. 
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>>  Best wishes,
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-06-28 Thread Mike Arrigo

Nice, please try some more sites when you can and keep us posted, it would be 
awesome if firefox became as accessible on the mac as it is on Windows.

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded Firefox 77 and Firefox 79 nightly on my system, and they 
> have indeed made significant strides in interacting with VoiceOver. I only 
> had a chance to review two or three sites. Sometimes, voiceOver would say 
> unknown button, but if I moved forward and back it could then read the label 
> for the button. I did not look at any advanced sites that use lots of 
> JavaScript and have to manage focus, but first impressions were that this is 
> something worth looking into. 
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>   Best wishes,
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> Jonathan Cohn
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Re: Firefox on the Mac somewhat works now.

2020-06-28 Thread Michael Marshall

This is very encouraging.
I hope they continue to work at this because it would be always nice to have 
another browser option.


> On 29 Jun 2020, at 4:37 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> I just downloaded Firefox 77 and Firefox 79 nightly on my system, and they 
> have indeed made significant strides in interacting with VoiceOver. I only 
> had a chance to review two or three sites. Sometimes, voiceOver would say 
> unknown button, but if I moved forward and back it could then read the label 
> for the button. I did not look at any advanced sites that use lots of 
> JavaScript and have to manage focus, but first impressions were that this is 
> something worth looking into. 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
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Re: firefox on the mac

2015-03-16 Thread Jessica Moss

Has anyone had any luck with webvisum on the mac?  I tried a while back when it 
was more accessible to use it, and checked all the checkboxes someone on here 
recommended, which I unfortunately can't remember what those are now, sense 
it's been ages, and nothing would stick.
  they always kept unchecking again, so never could get them to stay the way I 
left them, so it never would work for me, and couldn't get rumola to autofill 
the captcha on a particular site that I go to for my job, so have to use my PC 
to go there, which I don't want to have to keep doing.
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 That's what I figured.
 
 
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   To some extent, yes. It depends on the site, but I have not noticed a 
 serious improvement to the responsiveness of FF and VoiceOver recently.
 
 
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 Subject: Re: firefox on the mac
 
 Hi,
 
 Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why 
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 Later...
 
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Re: firefox on the mac

2015-03-15 Thread John Panarese

   To some extent, yes. It depends on the site, but I have not noticed a 
serious improvement to the responsiveness of FF and VoiceOver recently.


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 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: firefox on the mac
 
 Hi,
 
 Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why 
 it would be broken.  It’s not perfect but it is usable.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
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 On Mar 11, 2015, at 15:40, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 Is firefox usable on the mac?
 Best,
 Juan M. Hernandez
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 4555 Executive Drive
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RE: firefox on the mac

2015-03-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

That's what I figured.


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Subject: Re: firefox on the mac

   To some extent, yes. It depends on the site, but I have not noticed a 
serious improvement to the responsiveness of FF and VoiceOver recently.


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 Do you still get the busy busy busy thing like before?
  
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: firefox on the mac
 
 Hi,
 
 Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why 
 it would be broken.  It’s not perfect but it is usable.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
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 On Mar 11, 2015, at 15:40, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 Is firefox usable on the mac?
 Best,
 Juan M. Hernandez
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Re: firefox on the mac

2015-03-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Do you still get the busy busy busy thing like before?

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  From: Tim Kilburn 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: firefox on the mac


  Hi,


  Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why 
it would be broken.  It’s not perfect but it is usable.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Mar 11, 2015, at 15:40, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:


  Hi All,

  Is firefox usable on the mac?

  Best,

  Juan M. Hernandez
  Access technology Specialist
  Braille Institute of America
  4555 Executive Drive
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  858-452- Ext. 5020
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Re: firefox on the mac

2015-03-11 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why it 
would be broken.  It’s not perfect but it is usable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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Hi All,
 
Is firefox usable on the mac?
 
Best,
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Harry Hogue

I just graduated with my master's degree in May, and Safari works very well 
with Blackboard.  I have never sued Blackboard with Firefox, however.

Harry

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 Firefox has been recommended for his use.  He needs to access the Blackboard 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hi.
I too am going through college.
I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things a 
lot easier.
Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
immensely!
HTH,
Matthew Campbell.


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 Firefox has been recommended for his use.  He needs to access the Blackboard 
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 Mac?  If not, has anybody used Blackboard with Safari? with success  Thanks 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Les Kriegler

Hi Matthew,

Okay, that's great to hear.  Do you use Safari or Firefox?  The gentleman with 
whom I will assist was informed that Firefox needed to be used.  Thanks.

Les
On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

 Hi.
 I too am going through college.
 I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things a 
 lot easier.
 Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
 immensely!
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
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 with success  Thanks for any assistance.
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Les Kriegler

Thanks Harry.  That's what I needed to know.

Les
On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

 I just graduated with my master's degree in May, and Safari works very well 
 with Blackboard.  I have never sued Blackboard with Firefox, however.
 
 Harry
 
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 that Firefox has been recommended for his use.  He needs to access the 
 Blackboard application and Firefox is recommended.  Is Firefox now 
 accessible with the Mac?  If not, has anybody used Blackboard with Safari? 
 with success  Thanks for any assistance.
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Harry Hogue

I will add that the reason your student has been told to use Firefox with 
Blackboard is probably because of compatibility with the Blackboard system.  
Ideally, most university websites and related services (e.g. Blackboard) will 
use Internet Explorer, which I am almost certain has very little support for 
VoiceOver.
I hope this helps,
Harry

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 Thanks Harry.  That's what I needed to know.
 
 Les
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
 
 I just graduated with my master's degree in May, and Safari works very well 
 with Blackboard.  I have never sued Blackboard with Firefox, however.
 
 Harry
 
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
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 with success  Thanks for any assistance.
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Kirsten Edmondson

Hi,

I use Safari or Google Chrome on the Mac to access blackboard, both of these 
are fine and there are no issues. I was of the understanding that Firefox does 
not yet work other than  a beyta version on the map, although I am looking 
forward to the day when it does properly. For blackboard it is probably best to 
use Safari for now, as although chrome is good, it's not totally there yet. 
Though chrome is probably second to Firefox currently. But please someone 
correct me if Firefox is fully available and accessible, because I would like 
to use Firefox myself if it is usable now.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi Matthew,
 
 Okay, that's great to hear.  Do you use Safari or Firefox?  The gentleman 
 with whom I will assist was informed that Firefox needed to be used.  Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I too am going through college.
 I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things a 
 lot easier.
 Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
 immensely!
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-10, at 1:02 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hi.
As far as I know, there are no browser restrictions for BlackBoard.
I use Safari. I can't get the supposedly accessible nightly builds of FireFox 
to work.


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 Okay, that's great to hear.  Do you use Safari or Firefox?  The gentleman 
 with whom I will assist was informed that Firefox needed to be used.  Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I too am going through college.
 I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things a 
 lot easier.
 Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
 immensely!
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-10, at 1:02 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
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Google Chrome was, Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Harry Hogue

Hi, I wasn't aware that Google Chrome worked on the Mac with VoiceOver; I 
thought only Safari was fully accessible with VoiceOver.  It's nice to know 
that other options are becoming more accessible, at least.  I know with JAWS, 
you could only really count on IE, which I, personally, always hated.
On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Kirstenwrote:

 Hi,
 
 I use Safari or Google Chrome on the Mac to access blackboard, both of these 
 are fine and there are no issues. I was of the understanding that Firefox 
 does not yet work other than  a beyta version on the map, although I am 
 looking forward to the day when it does properly. For blackboard it is 
 probably best to use Safari for now, as although chrome is good, it's not 
 totally there yet. Though chrome is probably second to Firefox currently. But 
 please someone correct me if Firefox is fully available and accessible, 
 because I would like to use Firefox myself if it is usable now.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jul 2012, at 19:21, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matthew,
 
 Okay, that's great to hear.  Do you use Safari or Firefox?  The gentleman 
 with whom I will assist was informed that Firefox needed to be used.  Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I too am going through college.
 I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things 
 a lot easier.
 Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
 immensely!
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-10, at 1:02 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
 I will be working with a college student later this month.  He indicates 
 that Firefox has been recommended for his use.  He needs to access the 
 Blackboard application and Firefox is recommended.  Is Firefox now 
 accessible with the Mac?  If not, has anybody used Blackboard with Safari? 
 with success  Thanks for any assistance.
 
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Re: Google Chrome was, Re: Firefox on the Mac

2012-07-10 Thread Daniel McGee

Adding to this, I think it better now that own companies make there products 
accessible in this case web browsers. Rather than waiting and depending on 
special scripts to built for the programme. 
I too will look forward to firefox becoming accessible on the Mac. Apparently 
there biggest bug at present is the annoying yes I guess people can guess it… 
the wonderful BUSY MESSAGES! Ah they drive me mad!!! After that herbal I hope 
it won't be long because at present I would boldly say that its not worth using 
at the moment. LOL My MBP late 2011 13 inch really starts to get warm when I 
use the browser! Of course this is just me others may have different opinions.  
 

Daniel  
On 10 Jul 2012, at 20:10, Harry Hogue wrote:

 Hi, I wasn't aware that Google Chrome worked on the Mac with VoiceOver; I 
 thought only Safari was fully accessible with VoiceOver.  It's nice to know 
 that other options are becoming more accessible, at least.  I know with JAWS, 
 you could only really count on IE, which I, personally, always hated.
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Kirsten  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use Safari or Google Chrome on the Mac to access blackboard, both of these 
 are fine and there are no issues. I was of the understanding that Firefox 
 does not yet work other than  a beyta version on the map, although I am 
 looking forward to the day when it does properly. For blackboard it is 
 probably best to use Safari for now, as although chrome is good, it's not 
 totally there yet. Though chrome is probably second to Firefox currently. 
 But please someone correct me if Firefox is fully available and accessible, 
 because I would like to use Firefox myself if it is usable now.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 10 Jul 2012, at 19:21, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matthew,
 
 Okay, that's great to hear.  Do you use Safari or Firefox?  The gentleman 
 with whom I will assist was informed that Firefox needed to be used.  
 Thanks.
 
 Les
 On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I too am going through college.
 I actually hate using BlackBoard with windows. The Mac I find makes things 
 a lot easier.
 Also, Blackboard got an update recently that has improved accessibility 
 immensely!
 HTH,
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2012-07-10, at 1:02 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
 
 I will be working with a college student later this month.  He indicates 
 that Firefox has been recommended for his use.  He needs to access the 
 Blackboard application and Firefox is recommended.  Is Firefox now 
 accessible with the Mac?  If not, has anybody used Blackboard with 
 Safari? with success  Thanks for any assistance.
 
 Les
 
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Re: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-05 Thread Mike Arrigo

Unless something has changed, firefox does not work with voiceover.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:29 PM, agent086b wrote:

 Hi,
 does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
 thanks.
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Re: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

To the best of my knowledge, someone please correct me should I be wrong, 
but I don't think so.  I'm with you though, sure wish it did, although 
Safari is amazing! in my opinion.


Chris.

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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:29 PM
Subject: Firefox on a Mac?



Hi,
does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
thanks.
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Re: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-04 Thread Karen Lewellen

Granted, I am just dropping my nose in here, but why would or does it not 
work?
did a swift google, and there  are both downloads at apple of it, os 10.4 
and instructions for installing it with os 10.5 and 10.6 at the main 
firefox site.

Why does it not work with voiceover?
Karen's nose

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, someone please correct me should I be wrong, but 
I don't think so.  I'm with you though, sure wish it did, although Safari is 
amazing! in my opinion.


Chris.

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 Hi,
 does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
 thanks.
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Re: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-04 Thread agent086b

 Safari among the least secure though.
Max.
 Original Message  
Subject: Re: Firefox on a Mac?
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:01:50 -0400
To the best of my knowledge, someone please correct me should I be 
wrong, but I don't think so.  I'm with you though, sure wish it did, 
although Safari is amazing! in my opinion.

Chris.

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Subject: Firefox on a Mac?

Hi,
does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
thanks.
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Re: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You know, I'm not really totally sure.  The only thing that I can think is 
it's not written with any of the libraries or code needed that voiceover 
knows how to recognise or do anything with.


Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox on a Mac?


Granted, I am just dropping my nose in here, but why would or does it not 
work?
did a swift google, and there  are both downloads at apple of it, os 10.4 
and instructions for installing it with os 10.5 and 10.6 at the main 
firefox site.

Why does it not work with voiceover?
Karen's nose

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, someone please correct me should I be wrong, 
but I don't think so.  I'm with you though, sure wish it did, although 
Safari is amazing! in my opinion.


Chris.

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To: Mac List macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:29 PM
Subject: Firefox on a Mac?



 Hi,
 does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
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RE: Firefox on a Mac?

2011-06-04 Thread Chantel Cuddemi

Firefox is inaccessible with voiceover. 

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Hi,
does voice Over work with Firefox on the Mac?
thanks.
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2010-05-04 Thread Sean Tikkun

Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency.  I've put the 
first one in!  

- Sean Tikkun


On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote:

 Hello all,
 about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 3.6.3 
 and the missing support for voiceover.
 They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
 So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
 I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.
 
 The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted 
 assistance to do this.
 
 I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, some 
 websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox..
 
 so, here is the link and info:
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136
 
 --- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 
 2010-04-19 00:35:01 PDT ---
 We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.
 
 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 336306 ***
 
 
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2010-05-04 Thread Chris Blouch

Hmm. The bug notes this is for PowerPC OSX. Is there one for Intel? So 
in 2006 Håkan Waara was granted $32,500 to make accessibility 
improvements for Firefox, and nothing since.


http://www.mozilla.org/grants/2006/

CB

Sean Tikkun wrote:
Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency.  I've 
put the first one in!  


- Sean Tikkun


On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote:


Hello all,
about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about 
firefox 3.6.3 and the missing support for voiceover.

They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.

The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need 
sighted assistance to do this.


I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well 
but, some websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. 
firebox..


so, here is the link and info:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136

--- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 
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We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 336306 ***



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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2010-05-04 Thread marie Howarth

It's one of those, we wait and see things I believe. I heard something was 
meant to happen this year but we'll see.

On 4 May 2010, at 20:56, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Hmm. The bug notes this is for PowerPC OSX. Is there one for Intel? So in 
 2006 Håkan Waara was granted $32,500 to make accessibility improvements for 
 Firefox, and nothing since.
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/grants/2006/
 
 CB
 
 Sean Tikkun wrote:
 
 Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency.  I've put the 
 first one in!  
 
 - Sean Tikkun
 
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 
 3.6.3 and the missing support for voiceover.
 They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
 So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
 I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.
 
 The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted 
 assistance to do this.
 
 I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, 
 some websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox..
 
 so, here is the link and info:
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136
 
 --- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 
 2010-04-19 00:35:01 PDT ---
 We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.
 
 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 336306 ***
 
 
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2010-05-04 Thread olivia norman

We'll see. I will try and report this if I can.
Olivia
On May 4, 2010, at 4:16 PM, marie Howarth wrote:

 It's one of those, we wait and see things I believe. I heard something was 
 meant to happen this year but we'll see.
 
 On 4 May 2010, at 20:56, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Hmm. The bug notes this is for PowerPC OSX. Is there one for Intel? So in 
 2006 Håkan Waara was granted $32,500 to make accessibility improvements for 
 Firefox, and nothing since.
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/grants/2006/
 
 CB
 
 Sean Tikkun wrote:
 
 Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency.  I've put the 
 first one in!  
 
 - Sean Tikkun
 
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 
 3.6.3 and the missing support for voiceover.
 They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
 So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
 I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.
 
 The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted 
 assistance to do this.
 
 I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, 
 some websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox..
 
 so, here is the link and info:
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136
 
 --- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 
 2010-04-19 00:35:01 PDT ---
 We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.
 
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Re: Firefox on the Mac

2010-05-04 Thread Sarah Alawami

I hoep it becomes accessibal. I love firefox.

Take care.
On May 4, 2010, at 1:39 PM, olivia norman wrote:

 We'll see. I will try and report this if I can.
 Olivia
 On May 4, 2010, at 4:16 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
 
 It's one of those, we wait and see things I believe. I heard something was 
 meant to happen this year but we'll see.
 
 On 4 May 2010, at 20:56, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 Hmm. The bug notes this is for PowerPC OSX. Is there one for Intel? So in 
 2006 Håkan Waara was granted $32,500 to make accessibility improvements for 
 Firefox, and nothing since.
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/grants/2006/
 
 CB
 
 Sean Tikkun wrote:
 
 Voting on this bug will increase it's importance and urgency.  I've put 
 the first one in!  
 
 - Sean Tikkun
 
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 3:58 PM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 
 3.6.3 and the missing support for voiceover.
 They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
 So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
 I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.
 
 The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted 
 assistance to do this.
 
 I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, 
 some websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox..
 
 so, here is the link and info:
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136
 
 --- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ) marco.z...@googlemail.com 
 2010-04-19 00:35:01 PDT ---
 We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.
 
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-13 Thread Chris Hofstader

Mozilla is able to get some support for OpenOffice using an accessibility layer 
built into Gecko.  I don't know how this could effect Firefox but one might 
guess that their UI common library should work at least as well as OO.

OO is weird on Mac.  Because of the gecko common UI layer, it can't support Mac 
services as the application is kept a step away from the OS by gecko.  Common 
UI libraries seem to make porting easier but they never seem to get everything 
right on any of the target platforms.

cdh 
On Jan 12, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Portia Scott wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think it's great that Mozilla is branching out and asking the community. I 
 know that if I had the talent, I would love to help.
 On Jan 11, 2010, at 3:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 However, the Mozilla folks are looking for additional help in making it 
 accessible on the Mac. If you have such talents you'd like to share, they 
 would appreciate the help.
 On Jan 11, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Firefox is inaccessible on the mac.
 
 Hth,
 
 Portia.
 On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 Doesn't work. 
 
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-12 Thread Portia Scott

Hi,

I think it's great that Mozilla is branching out and asking the community. I 
know that if I had the talent, I would love to help.
On Jan 11, 2010, at 3:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 However, the Mozilla folks are looking for additional help in making it 
 accessible on the Mac. If you have such talents you'd like to share, they 
 would appreciate the help.
 On Jan 11, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Portia Scott wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Firefox is inaccessible on the mac.
 
 Hth,
 
 Portia.
 On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 Doesn't work. 
 
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-11 Thread James Nash

Hi Anouk,-- 

You wrote:
 Hi everyone, i just dled firefox 3.5 because i wanted to try it with snow 
 leopard but if i open it i cant do anything at all, it just says firefox has 
 no windows and i can topen a menu or do anything. Does firefox not work with 
 sl or is it just totally not acccessible (i saw the release i downloaded was 
 written for mac 10.5).

As far as I am aware, the situation is as follows:

Because Firefox is a cross-platform browser, it has been very difficult for the 
developers to make the browser accessible to Voice Over users because Apple 
employs its own accessibility frameworks for Mac OS X. Therefore, the folks at 
Mozilla must create by hand all the accessibility functionality that Linux and 
Windows users have by default.

I know that the developers would welcome assistance in this, but I am not 
confident enough in programming yet to offer them this help.

I know that there are other, better qualified people on this list who could 
give you a better break down of the current situation, so if my info is 
incorrect or in any way in accurate, please feel free to set me straight. 

HTH
TC
James 
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-11 Thread Chris Blouch

Your explanation seems correct but I would tweak it to say that the
Mozilla contributors have already written the 'glue' code that connects
Firefox to the accessibility APIs on Linux or Windows. Each of those
platforms has its own accessibility framework just like the Mac. There
just hasn't been a set of deep pockets to fund the Mac dev work like on
the other platforms and volunteers so far have not made it happen.
Following the money trail is a bit difficult but I suspect IBM funded
much of the IAccessible2 work and Google probably chipped in on MSAA. If
Apple sprinkled some dollars or people resources in the right place I
would guess that FF would get happy with voiceover. Of course as the
sole developer of Safari, I'm not sure how much Apple would be motivated
to put resources into Firefox.

James Nash wrote:
Hi Anouk,--

You wrote:

As far as I am aware, the situation is as follows:

Because Firefox is a cross-platform browser, it has been very difficult for the
developers to make the browser accessible to Voice Over users because Apple
employs its own accessibility frameworks for Mac OS X. Therefore, the folks at
Mozilla must create by hand all the accessibility functionality that Linux and
Windows users have by default.

I know that the developers would welcome assistance in this, but I am not
confident enough in programming yet to offer them this help.

I know that there are other, better qualified people on this list who could give you a better break down of the current situation, so if my info is incorrect or in any way in accurate, please feel free to set me straight.

HTH
TC
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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-11 Thread James Nash

Well I would be happy to help with Firefox once i get up to scratch on
programming, although I am only just starting out. It will take me some time I
suspect before I am able to offer my help to projects like Firefox.

TC
James
On 11 Jan 2010, at 15:58, Chris Blouch wrote:

Your explanation seems correct but I would tweak it to say that the Mozilla
contributors have already written the 'glue' code that connects Firefox to
the accessibility APIs on Linux or Windows. Each of those platforms has its
own accessibility framework just like the Mac. There just hasn't been a set
of deep pockets to fund the Mac dev work like on the other platforms and
volunteers so far have not made it happen. Following the money trail is a bit
difficult but I suspect IBM funded much of the IAccessible2 work and Google
probably chipped in on MSAA. If Apple sprinkled some dollars or people
resources in the right place I would guess that FF would get happy with
voiceover. Of course as the sole developer of Safari, I'm not sure how much
Apple would be motivated to put resources into Firefox.

James Nash wrote:

Hi Anouk,--

You wrote:

As far as I am aware, the situation is as follows:

Because Firefox is a cross-platform browser, it has been very difficult for
the developers to make the browser accessible to Voice Over users because
Apple employs its own accessibility frameworks for Mac OS X. Therefore, the
folks at Mozilla must create by hand all the accessibility functionality
that Linux and Windows users have by default.

I know that the developers would welcome assistance in this, but I am not
confident enough in programming yet to offer them this help.

I know that there are other, better qualified people on this list who could
give you a better break down of the current situation, so if my info is
incorrect or in any way in accurate, please feel free to set me straight.

HTH
TC
James
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leopard but if i open it i cant do anything at all, it just says firefox
has no windows and i can topen a menu or do anything. Does firefox not work
with sl or is it just totally not acccessible (i saw the release i
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RE: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-10 Thread Bryan Smart

Doesn't work. 

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Re: firefox on a mac?

2010-01-10 Thread Portia Scott

Hello,

Firefox is inaccessible on the mac.

Hth,

Portia.
On Jan 10, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 Doesn't work. 
 
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