Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No i have other complications that does not show the name.
And it wants me to log in to my apple id .
/A

> 22 maj 2020 kl. 20:59 skrev 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Interesting thought.

Apple couldn’t figure it out as the complication is there it’s just voiceover 
doesn’t speak the complication.

But it’s also not all of them, just ones I add to the watch face,

The face / screen I use is the modula  with things I find useful during the day.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2020 3:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.


On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press
record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover
notification comes back

The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the
icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
try to look in to it.

I just don't worry now.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes this is what I find also.

If you remember what complications you have on your watch face then you will 
know what is blank and what isn’t

Currently my just press record
Messages,
Mail and music are all blank but I can tap on them to open thenm and all the 
things I need to know are there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2020 11:59 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

Hi all,

I'm catching up on this thread. My heart rate complication sometimes comes and 
goes. As someone else said, it's been happening for a while. I occasionally 
have a blank space in my complications but if I doubletap on the blank space it 
does show my heart rate.

Gabe




On May 23, 2020, at 8:57 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.


On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.


On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press
record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover
notification comes back

The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the
icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
try to look in to it.

I just don't worry now.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,

I'm catching up on this thread. My heart rate complication sometimes comes and 
goes. As someone else said, it's been happening for a while. I occasionally 
have a blank space in my complications but if I doubletap on the blank space it 
does show my heart rate.

Gabe



> On May 23, 2020, at 8:57 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.
> 
>> On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
>> suggest you erase and restore it.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>> 
>> My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all 
>> is fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and 
>> breathe functions on the watch be it complications or not.
>> 
>>> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
>>> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
>>> notification comes back
>>> 
>>> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
>>> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would 
>>> only try to look in to it.
>>> 
>>> I just don't worry now.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

It’s fine this morning and hopefully I won’t have to reset it.

> On 23 May 2020, at 16:10, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
> suggest you erase and restore it.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all 
> is fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and 
> breathe functions on the watch be it complications or not.
> 
>> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
>> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
>> notification comes back
>> 
>> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
>> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would 
>> only try to look in to it.
>> 
>> I just don't worry now.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
>> 
>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It sounds to me like the update did not apply properly to your watch.  I 
suggest you erase and restore it.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 23, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
> notification comes back
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
> try to look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
> 
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it's been happening for me for a while now it's not something new.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 8:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press 
> record The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover 
> notification comes back
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the 
> icon up Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only 
> try to look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
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> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

My watch has now gone back to normal after I put it on this morning. So all is 
fine. Simon has it right. Voice-over is not picking up the heart and breathe 
functions on the watch be it complications or not.

> On 23 May 2020, at 7:07 am, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press record 
> The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover notification comes 
> back 
> 
> The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the icon up 
> Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only try to 
> look in to it.
> 
> I just don't worry now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
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RE: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I've got the same issue now with messages and mail just press record 
The same thing where if I restart the watch the voiceover notification comes 
back 

The app icon is seemingly there it's just voiceover isn't pickng the icon up 
Apple pretty much told me there was nothing wrong and they would only try to 
look in to it.

 I just don't worry now.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 23 May 2020 6:59 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications although 
they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this problem and if 
so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly but once you reboot 
the watch, they come back but this time it’s not happening. Thank you for your 
help.

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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Brad Snyder]

Modular is a watch face, not a complication.

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 17:23, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I have the modular complication. And within that complication, my heart rate 
and breathing used to show up. I thought that the heart rate and breathing was 
a complication. I disabled every other complication. As I did prefer that one. 
So maybe tomorrow, I will reset the watch and see what happens after wishing to 
throw it out of the window if I cannot get the Bluetooth passcode on the watch 
quick enough.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:55 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of 
> a better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
> For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
> complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
> complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
> positions on the watch face.
> 
> Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for 
> many years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
> that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can 
> have.  So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos 
> complication, the Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four 
> complications available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right 
> changes the watch-face to the next or previous complication on the 
> watch-face.  Things like Weather, Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much 
> more are Watch apps and usually come pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  
> These are not purchased, although, yes, there are purchasable apps.  You are 
> able to set which apps show up on your Dock as well as the watch will often 
> place apps you use regularly onto the Dock for you.  So, when I suggest 
> double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, or the Heart Rate item from 
> within a complication, then both of these action will open the Heart Rate app 
> and allow you to view the accumulated data within that app.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
> as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
> but I don’t use that one. 
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the 
>> complications.  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my 
>> Dock.  Once I double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in 
>> the Photos complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as 
>> part of its complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is 
>> displayed and announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular 
>> Heart Rate data is available.
>> 
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
>> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what 
>> happens.  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the 
>> bluetooth thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on 
>> the phone to do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a 
>> drawback on things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as 
 the breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
 although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had 

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Brad Snyder]

Tim,

What you were calling a Complication is actually a watch face.  A complication 
is something that appears on a watch face and provides information such as the 
day/date,  temperature or some other information. .

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 17:18, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

hi Brad,

Thanks for the clarification.  So, basically, the thing that I was calling a 
complication is really a collection of complications.  Cool.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they 

Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I have the modular complication. And within that complication, my heart rate 
and breathing used to show up. I thought that the heart rate and breathing was 
a complication. I disabled every other complication. As I did prefer that one. 
So maybe tomorrow, I will reset the watch and see what happens after wishing to 
throw it out of the window if I cannot get the Bluetooth passcode on the watch 
quick enough.

> On 22 May 2020, at 10:55 pm, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of 
> a better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
> For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
> complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
> complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
> positions on the watch face.
> 
> Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for 
> many years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
> that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can 
> have.  So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos 
> complication, the Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four 
> complications available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right 
> changes the watch-face to the next or previous complication on the 
> watch-face.  Things like Weather, Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much 
> more are Watch apps and usually come pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  
> These are not purchased, although, yes, there are purchasable apps.  You are 
> able to set which apps show up on your Dock as well as the watch will often 
> place apps you use regularly onto the Dock for you.  So, when I suggest 
> double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, or the Heart Rate item from 
> within a complication, then both of these action will open the Heart Rate app 
> and allow you to view the accumulated data within that app.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
> as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
> but I don’t use that one. 
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the 
>> complications.  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my 
>> Dock.  Once I double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in 
>> the Photos complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as 
>> part of its complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is 
>> displayed and announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular 
>> Heart Rate data is available.
>> 
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
>> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what 
>> happens.  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the 
>> bluetooth thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on 
>> the phone to do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a 
>> drawback on things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
>> 
>>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as 
 the breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
 although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
 problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
 but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
 happening. Thank you for your help.
 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

hi Brad,

Thanks for the clarification.  So, basically, the thing that I was calling a 
complication is really a collection of complications.  Cool.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

[Brad Snyder]

Tim,

Actually, the term “complication” refers to the various widgets, for lack of a 
better term, that can be used in different positions on a watch face.
For example, on the Utility watch face, I have the Sun rise/sun set 
complication in the upper left corner, I have the Weather conditions 
complication in the upper right corner, and other complications in other 
positions on the watch face.

Apparently, the term complication has been used in the watch industry for many 
years, and is not something that is new or specific to the Apple Watch.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 22, 2020, at 15:58, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Maybe we’re getting confused here with terminology.  It is my understanding 
that “complications” are the various watch-face collections that you can have.  
So, for example, I have the Modular complication, the Photos complication, the 
Siri complication and the Activity complication as the four complications 
available on my watch.  A two-finger swipe left or right changes the watch-face 
to the next or previous complication on the watch-face.  Things like Weather, 
Heart Rate, Remote, Apple Store and much more are Watch apps and usually come 
pre-installed on your Apple Watch.  These are not purchased, although, yes, 
there are purchasable apps.  You are able to set which apps show up on your 
Dock as well as the watch will often place apps you use regularly onto the Dock 
for you.  So, when I suggest double-tapping the Heart Rate app from your Dock, 
or the Heart Rate item from within a complication, then both of these action 
will open the Heart Rate app and allow you to view the accumulated data within 
that app.

I hope this makes sense.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I don’t buy any apps for the watch as I don’t really know what is good for us 
as I just use it as it is.  Even the breathe is not showing as a complication 
but I don’t use that one. 

> On 22 May 2020, at 21:39, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications. 
>  I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
> double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
> complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
> complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
> announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
> available.
> 
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in 
> the complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens. 
>  I am reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth 
> thing quick enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to 
> do it but I might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on 
> things, as Apple make you update even if you don’t want to.
> 
>> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
>> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
>> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Like Donna, I normally don’t access the Heart Rate through the complications.  
I usually just press the side button, and it’s part of my Dock.  Once I 
double-tap it from there, all works normally.  I did look in the Photos 
complication though, which does appear to have the Heart Rate as part of its 
complication.  When using that complication, the Heart Rate is displayed and 
announced on the screen and when I double-tap it, regular Heart Rate data is 
available.

Later…
 

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 22, 2020, at 2:21 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in the 
complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens.  I am 
reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth thing quick 
enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to do it but I 
might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on things, as Apple 
make you update even if you don’t want to.

> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I can also bring it up in the apps on my watch but it was always showing in the 
complications.  May be I’ll customise the face again to see what happens.  I am 
reluctant to reset it as I can’t get the thing to get the bluetooth thing quick 
enough.  I have never been able to use the camera on the phone to do it but I 
might try.  Why do updating things always have a drawback on things, as Apple 
make you update even if you don’t want to.

> On 22 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
> complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
> comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
>> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
>> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
>> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
>> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
>> happening. Thank you for your help.
>> 
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Re: New update for Apple Watch. A problem?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Kawal,

I'm not experiencing this. I don't have heart-rate set as one of my 
complications, so if you're talking about having it show up there, I can't 
comment. But I can easily bring it up in the apps.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 22, 2020, at 1:59 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have just updated my watch and I have probably started it 10 times as the 
> breathing and heart rate are not showing on my watch as complications 
> although they are there but they are invisible. Has anyone else had this 
> problem and if so how did they fix it. This problem occurs quite regularly 
> but once you reboot the watch, they come back but this time it’s not 
> happening. Thank you for your help.
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