Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 



On 18/5/21 1:02 pm, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Yeah. I have used it for years, but maybe I’ll just disable it.
I suppose it depends on your security needs. There's too much personal 
information on mine that could be misused by fraudsters or other 
organized criminals to take the risk of not encrypting it. Also, it's a 
laptop, as will be its replacement. I know how much I'd regret it if 
someone stole the machine and started taking advantage of personal 
details for identity theft or other malevolent purposes.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/2c408944-f79b-9bdc-b005-3034bd24b1f1%40jasonjgw.net.

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Just want to say thanks Brad and Harry for trying to help. I’ve looked in 
system prefs, I’ve disabled File Vault, and still no VO at startup, and no 
sounds in Mail. So I guess tomorrow I’ll call Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,
Donna

> On May 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
> Options”, from the table.
> 3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
> 4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
> activate.
> 5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at login, 
> and select the Apply button.
> 
> That should do it.
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu  and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can 
> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net
>  
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/594458BE-5865-48EA-AFEF-302040D768D8%40me.com.

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Yeah. I have used it for years, but maybe I’ll just disable it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 18, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Good point.
> I  don't use file vault,  and forget about how it affects voiceover on The 
> logon screen.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On May 18, 2021, at 11:57, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you have enabled FileVault, if you do set up VoiceOver to come in at 
> login, there is a bug affecting M1 Mac mini at least; VoiceOver does not land 
> in the password box and is unresponsive. You have to turn VoiceOver off and 
> back on again. Apple accessibility is looking for a fix. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 18 May 2021, at 17:40, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
>> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
>> 2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
>> Options”, from the table.
>> 3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
>> 4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
>> activate.
>> 5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at 
>> login, and select the Apply button.
>> 
>> That should do it.
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
>> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
>> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
>> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu  and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net
>>  
>> .
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Brad,

I’d gotten as far as number 3. But there is no Accessibility Options button.
Cheers,
Donna



> On May 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
> Options”, from the table.
> 3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
> 4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
> activate.
> 5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at login, 
> and select the Apply button.
> 
> That should do it.
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu  and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can 
> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net
>  
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4C6B41B4-C20D-47EA-B2F7-7311EDDF4E84%40me.com.

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread Brad Snyder 
Good point.
I  don't use file vault,  and forget about how it affects voiceover on The 
logon screen.

- Brad -

On May 18, 2021, at 11:57, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


If you have enabled FileVault, if you do set up VoiceOver to come in at login, 
there is a bug affecting M1 Mac mini at least; VoiceOver does not land in the 
password box and is unresponsive. You have to turn VoiceOver off and back on 
again. Apple accessibility is looking for a fix. 
Harry

> On 18 May 2021, at 17:40, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
> Options”, from the table.
> 3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
> 4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
> activate.
> 5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at login, 
> and select the Apply button.
> 
> That should do it.
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net.
-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DAA1E57F-B2AE-4539-9960-0ABA27AC5CF2%40icloud.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
If you have enabled FileVault, if you do set up VoiceOver to come in at login, 
there is a bug affecting M1 Mac mini at least; VoiceOver does not land in the 
password box and is unresponsive. You have to turn VoiceOver off and back on 
again. Apple accessibility is looking for a fix. 
Harry

> On 18 May 2021, at 17:40, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
> Options”, from the table.
> 3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
> 4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
> activate.
> 5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at login, 
> and select the Apply button.
> 
> That should do it.
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/DAA1E57F-B2AE-4539-9960-0ABA27AC5CF2%40icloud.com.

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread Brad Snyder 
Here is what you need to do to set up VO to start at the logon screen:
1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
2.  In the, "Users, groups and login options" List” table, select, “Login 
Options”, from the table.
3.  You should select the lock so you can make changes, in order to continue.
4.  Navigate to the "Accessibility Options” button, and press VO + Space to 
activate.
5.  Now, select the accessibility features you would like to enable at login, 
and select the Apply button.

That should do it.
HTH.

- Brad -


On May 18, 2021, at 10:23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like it 
has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t see a 
setting that would address this. Any ideas?
TIA,
Donna

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/37D8B93C-9B5F-4C36-A5A6-FBB4F08A5F8F%40swbell.net.

RE: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread skipper8218 
Well,
Sometimes, I wait about ten seconds.
If not, command f5 worked.
I just created a user name and password for the Mac and then brought my phone 
to the Mac.
Once I signed into both accounts, everything just works.


-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 11:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

That shouldn’t happen.  At least it never did before.
Donna

> On May 18, 2021, at 10:25 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Command f5 doesn't work?
> I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't start immediately at the login prompt.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 11:23 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/081001d74bfa%24106e24c0%24314a6e40%24%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8FA42A34-3136-4497-9375-673D355B2290%40me.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
That shouldn’t happen.  At least it never did before.
Donna

> On May 18, 2021, at 10:25 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Command f5 doesn't work?
> I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't start immediately at the login prompt.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 11:23 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
> system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like 
> it has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t 
> see a setting that would address this. Any ideas?
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/081001d74bfa%24106e24c0%24314a6e40%24%40gmail.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8FA42A34-3136-4497-9375-673D355B2290%40me.com.

RE: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread richring 
I think I'll stick with my old Mac!

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:23 AM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

Hi all,

On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like it 
has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t see a 
setting that would address this. Any ideas?
TIA,
Donna

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/000201d74bfa%2415602a50%2440207ef0%24%40gmail.com.

RE: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

2021-05-18 Thread skipper8218 
Command f5 doesn't work?
I have noticed that VoiceOver doesn't start immediately at the login prompt.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 11:23 AM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: VO not coming on at Startup on new MBA

Hi all,

On new MBA, VO does not come on at start up.  I can bring up the recovery 
system voice in order to log in, but I would like VO to start at log in like it 
has in the past.  I’ve looked in VO utility and system prefs, but don’t see a 
setting that would address this. Any ideas?
TIA,
Donna

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CC1100A3-56D8-4DD4-89C6-888A3458687F%40me.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/081001d74bfa%24106e24c0%24314a6e40%24%40gmail.com.