RE: emoticons

2014-12-28 Thread dooie13
Hello,

Quick question. What are Emojies?

Dooie13



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Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 13:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticons

Hi,
I just tried it and it works for me. Not sure what is going on here.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same results. 
 
 I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it asks me to 
 confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you trying to 
 insert Emojies in?  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the 
 menu and go to the emoticon I want. 
 
 I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down 
 arrow combo to select, nothing. 
 
 I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible. 
 
 I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I try to 
 use an emoticon. 
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: emoticons

2014-12-28 Thread Devin Prater
They are single characters that express something. They are accessible 
with iOS.

On 12/28/2014 6:52 AM, dooi...@frontier.com wrote:

Hello,

Quick question. What are Emojies?

Dooie13



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Faisal ali
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 13:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticons

Hi,
I just tried it and it works for me. Not sure what is going on here.

On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same results.

I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it asks me to 
confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi,
Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you trying to 
insert Emojies in?

On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the menu 
and go to the emoticon I want.

I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down arrow 
combo to select, nothing.

I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible.

I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I try to use 
an emoticon.

Thanks for any tips.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: emoticons

2014-12-28 Thread Bill Gallik

Does this mean that these emoticons are not accessible on OSX?

- Bill  Leader Dog Holland
- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
society.

- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: emoticons


They are single characters that express something. They are accessible
with iOS.
On 12/28/2014 6:52 AM, dooi...@frontier.com wrote:

Hello,

Quick question. What are Emojies?

Dooie13



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Faisal ali

Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 13:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticons

Hi,
I just tried it and it works for me. Not sure what is going on here.
On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same results.

I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it asks 
me to confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi,
Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you 
trying to insert Emojies in?
On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
wrote:


So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the 
menu and go to the emoticon I want.


I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down 
arrow combo to select, nothing.


I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible.

I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I 
try to use an emoticon.


Thanks for any tips.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: emoticons

2014-12-28 Thread Devin Prater

They are accessible on all Apple devices.
On 12/28/2014 12:30 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Does this mean that these emoticons are not accessible on OSX?

- Bill  Leader Dog Holland
- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
society.

- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: emoticons


They are single characters that express something. They are accessible
with iOS.
On 12/28/2014 6:52 AM, dooi...@frontier.com wrote:

Hello,

Quick question. What are Emojies?

Dooie13



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Faisal ali

Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 13:47
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticons

Hi,
I just tried it and it works for me. Not sure what is going on here.
On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jenine Stanley 
dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:


Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same 
results.


I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it 
asks me to confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com 
wrote:


Hi,
Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you 
trying to insert Emojies in?
On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley 
dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:


So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring 
up the menu and go to the emoticon I want.


I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and 
down arrow combo to select, nothing.


I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible.

I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere 
I try to use an emoticon.


Thanks for any tips.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: emoticons

2014-12-27 Thread Faisal ali
Hi,
Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you trying to 
insert Emojies in?  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the menu 
 and go to the emoticon I want. 
 
 I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down arrow 
 combo to select, nothing. 
 
 I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible. 
 
 I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I try to 
 use an emoticon. 
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: emoticons

2014-12-27 Thread Jenine Stanley
Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same results. 

I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it asks me to 
confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you trying to 
 insert Emojies in?  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the menu 
 and go to the emoticon I want. 
 
 I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down arrow 
 combo to select, nothing. 
 
 I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible. 
 
 I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I try to 
 use an emoticon. 
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: emoticons

2014-12-27 Thread Faisal ali
Hi,
I just tried it and it works for me. Not sure what is going on here.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mostly in mail and Facebook Mobile via Safari and I get the same results. 
 
 I just tried it again and I can select the emoticon I want then it asks me to 
 confirm and I hit enter but the menu doesn’t go away. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Unfortunately, Emojies cannot be used everywhere. What app are you trying to 
 insert Emojies in?  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 So I want to use emoticons. I hit control-command-space to bring up the 
 menu and go to the emoticon I want. 
 
 I then try hitting enter. Nothing. I try using the QuicNav up and down 
 arrow combo to select, nothing. 
 
 I try the VO-space to select. The emoticon menu stays visible. 
 
 I have to be doing something wrong here. This is the same anywhere I try to 
 use an emoticon. 
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Wes:
Well I'm afraid I tried that and had no luck either.  The only things that 
comes to mind is that the colon D must be given another meaning in one of the 
other emoticons in the table.  I keep landing right back in the table.  Also, 
VO will not let me view individual characters in the text boxes.  Sorry I'm not 
helpful here.
:) :( :D
Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
Tia for any further discussion.

Carolyn H
On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing face.  
 I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And all Apps 
 is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  Can someone 
 try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing?  Thanks.  
 BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct pronunciation, it 
 works.
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Wes Smith
No, I was able to read each character, and I entered it right.  There is no 
other :D symbol or anything.  The only thing I can think of, is that it's some 
sort of weird bug.  I can't do 3 for love or heart either.  I emailed the 
Apple people, told them my situation, asked them what was going on.  It just 
bugs the heck outta me when I'm trying to read a Facebook post, and someone's 
used emoticonswhich is quite frequent with my friends and I.  Maybe someone 
else has a suggestion. 
On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Wes:
 Well I'm afraid I tried that and had no luck either.  The only things that 
 comes to mind is that the colon D must be given another meaning in one of the 
 other emoticons in the table.  I keep landing right back in the table.  Also, 
 VO will not let me view individual characters in the text boxes.  Sorry I'm 
 not helpful here.
 :) :( :D
 Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
 Tia for any further discussion.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing face. 
  I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And all 
 Apps is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  Can 
 someone try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing?  
 Thanks.  BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct 
 pronunciation, it works.
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Carolyn Haas
Wes:
I need more friends like yours.  I only get occasional smilies.:) :) :)
Love did work for me as did the word quantity, and tomtits..  
Anyway, mine's sure behaving strangely.

:D 


Carolyn H
On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

 No, I was able to read each character, and I entered it right.  There is no 
 other :D symbol or anything.  The only thing I can think of, is that it's 
 some sort of weird bug.  I can't do 3 for love or heart either.  I emailed 
 the Apple people, told them my situation, asked them what was going on.  It 
 just bugs the heck outta me when I'm trying to read a Facebook post, and 
 someone's used emoticonswhich is quite frequent with my friends and I.  
 Maybe someone else has a suggestion. 
 On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Wes:
 Well I'm afraid I tried that and had no luck either.  The only things that 
 comes to mind is that the colon D must be given another meaning in one of 
 the other emoticons in the table.  I keep landing right back in the table.  
 Also, VO will not let me view individual characters in the text boxes.  
 Sorry I'm not helpful here.
 :) :( :D
 Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
 Tia for any further discussion.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing 
 face.  I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And 
 all Apps is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  
 Can someone try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing? 
  Thanks.  BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct 
 pronunciation, it works.
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Esther
Hi Carolyn, Wes, Brett, and Others,

I suspect the reason that you can't set up the VO pronunciation editor to speak 
emoticons for :D (colon d form big smile) and 3 (less 3) is that you could 
get potential confusion in situations where you are normally typing with colons 
or in mathematical expressions.  Can you imagine a passage where someone is 
using capital letters as a shortcut or code to refer to the names individuals 
(as sometimes occurs in books, or where one is reading paragraphs of a diary 
referring to people by their initials), and because there is no space between 
the colon and the d someone all of a sudden hears laughing face or big 
smile?  That would really be confusing!  Or, for example, someone who is 
trying to read a math equation comes to the part where an algebraic expression 
is less than 3, and hears love or heart in the middle?

I'd imagine that the annoyance value of having VoiceOver substitute emoticons 
under these circumstances would be considerable.  Just think of having to 
explain to your math teacher that you couldn't do your math homework because 
you've set up your screen reader to pronounce 3 correctly for emoticons on 
Facebook.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
 
 Wes Smith wrote:
 
 No, I was able to read each character, and I entered it right.  There is no 
 other :D symbol or anything.  The only thing I can think of, is that it's 
 some sort of weird bug.  I can't do 3 for love or heart either.  I emailed 
 the Apple people, told them my situation, asked them what was going on.  It 
 just bugs the heck outta me when I'm trying to read a Facebook post, and 
 someone's used emoticonswhich is quite frequent with my friends and I.  
 Maybe someone else has a suggestion. 

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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Colin M
Hi There!
On some of the facebook versions there is a - between the : and the D so :-D 
might work or not!
I used to put :-] on my emails but found that :] worked but the other version 
works on fb!
It is also funny the ones that Carolyn put say smilie but the ones I've typed 
do not [ go figure]
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 12 Feb 2011, at 22:08, Esther wrote:

 Hi Carolyn, Wes, Brett, and Others,
 
 I suspect the reason that you can't set up the VO pronunciation editor to 
 speak emoticons for :D (colon d form big smile) and 3 (less 3) is that 
 you could get potential confusion in situations where you are normally typing 
 with colons or in mathematical expressions.  Can you imagine a passage where 
 someone is using capital letters as a shortcut or code to refer to the names 
 individuals (as sometimes occurs in books, or where one is reading paragraphs 
 of a diary referring to people by their initials), and because there is no 
 space between the colon and the d someone all of a sudden hears laughing 
 face or big smile?  That would really be confusing!  Or, for example, 
 someone who is trying to read a math equation comes to the part where an 
 algebraic expression is less than 3, and hears love or heart in the 
 middle?
 
 I'd imagine that the annoyance value of having VoiceOver substitute emoticons 
 under these circumstances would be considerable.  Just think of having to 
 explain to your math teacher that you couldn't do your math homework because 
 you've set up your screen reader to pronounce 3 correctly for emoticons on 
 Facebook.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 Wes Smith wrote:
 
 No, I was able to read each character, and I entered it right.  There is no 
 other :D symbol or anything.  The only thing I can think of, is that it's 
 some sort of weird bug.  I can't do 3 for love or heart either.  I emailed 
 the Apple people, told them my situation, asked them what was going on.  It 
 just bugs the heck outta me when I'm trying to read a Facebook post, and 
 someone's used emoticonswhich is quite frequent with my friends and I.  
 Maybe someone else has a suggestion. 
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-12 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Colin:
That smiley came with Alex, and Silly as it sounds, it endeared me to him.  
It's the only one I easily remember, and I know I overuse it.:)
Can't help myself.

Carolyn H
On Feb 12, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Colin M wrote:

 Hi There!
 On some of the facebook versions there is a - between the : and the D so :-D 
 might work or not!
 I used to put :-] on my emails but found that :] worked but the other version 
 works on fb!
 It is also funny the ones that Carolyn put say smilie but the ones I've typed 
 do not [ go figure]
 Colin
 Qapla!
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
 On 12 Feb 2011, at 22:08, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Carolyn, Wes, Brett, and Others,
 
 I suspect the reason that you can't set up the VO pronunciation editor to 
 speak emoticons for :D (colon d form big smile) and 3 (less 3) is that 
 you could get potential confusion in situations where you are normally 
 typing with colons or in mathematical expressions.  Can you imagine a 
 passage where someone is using capital letters as a shortcut or code to 
 refer to the names individuals (as sometimes occurs in books, or where one 
 is reading paragraphs of a diary referring to people by their initials), and 
 because there is no space between the colon and the d someone all of a 
 sudden hears laughing face or big smile?  That would really be 
 confusing!  Or, for example, someone who is trying to read a math equation 
 comes to the part where an algebraic expression is less than 3, and hears 
 love or heart in the middle?
 
 I'd imagine that the annoyance value of having VoiceOver substitute 
 emoticons under these circumstances would be considerable.  Just think of 
 having to explain to your math teacher that you couldn't do your math 
 homework because you've set up your screen reader to pronounce 3 
 correctly for emoticons on Facebook.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 Wes Smith wrote:
 
 No, I was able to read each character, and I entered it right.  There is 
 no other :D symbol or anything.  The only thing I can think of, is that 
 it's some sort of weird bug.  I can't do 3 for love or heart either.  I 
 emailed the Apple people, told them my situation, asked them what was 
 going on.  It just bugs the heck outta me when I'm trying to read a 
 Facebook post, and someone's used emoticonswhich is quite frequent 
 with my friends and I.  Maybe someone else has a suggestion. 
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-11 Thread Brett Campbell
I have been attempting to create a labeled pronunciation  for :D for over a 
year, with no luck.  No matter how many times I try, VoiceOver just says D.  
Like you, I can create labeled pronunciations for most everything else.  I'd 
like to hear from you if you find a solution.

  
Brett C.



On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing face.  
 I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And all Apps 
 is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  Can someone 
 try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing?  Thanks.  
 BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct pronunciation, it 
 works.
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-11 Thread Carolyn Haas
Wes:
I had training in this, but can't remember how to gt to pronunciation 
dictionary.  If you or someone will refresh my apparently senior-like memory, 
I'll play with it and see if I can be of help.
TIA
Carolyn H
On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing face.  
 I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And all Apps 
 is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  Can someone 
 try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing?  Thanks.  
 BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct pronunciation, it 
 works.
 
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Re: Emoticons with VO pronunciation

2011-02-11 Thread Wes Smith
It's in the VO utility.  Under speech, than Pronunciation.
On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Wes:
 I had training in this, but can't remember how to get to pronunciation 
 dictionary.  If you or someone will refresh my apparently senior-like memory, 
 I'll play with it and see if I can be of help.
 TIA
 Carolyn H
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Wes Smith wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I've been trying to add some emoticons in the VO pronunciation dictionary.  
 But it's not working.  For example, I do :D (Collin D), for a laughing face. 
  I put :D in the first box, then laughingface, in the second.  And all 
 Apps is checked.  I even hit enter.  Is there something I'm missing?  Can 
 someone try it out and tell me if there is something that I am missing?  
 Thanks.  BTW, if I put names in there, and sub it with the correct 
 pronunciation, it works.
 
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