Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-24 Thread Nebojsa Tasic 



I'll try.

All of you guys, I really thank you.



On 23.2.2020. 21:26, dan d. wrote:

Try it, it works in the bash shell in termimal.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Nebojsa Tasic wrote:


I use Terminal for running a PHP framework. I'm pleased how it works now.

The only thing, on Windows, using up arrow,?? I can select previous used
commands and don't have to type them again. Is it possible on Mac?


On 22.2.2020. 20:49, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then
obviously you don???t need to do anything further. In my experience, the
terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn???t
wish to use it for running text editors or other interactive
applications a lot, as it???s rather awkward. To do that, I would much
rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, fortunately, my
other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).

*From: * on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic

*Reply-To: *
*Date: *Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
*To: *
*Subject: *Re: Accessible Terminal

I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and
word by word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in
Catalina? Maybe I will not need to install TDSR.

On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

 Sorry, I???ll add links:

 TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

 Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

 A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak
 on the Mac and working with it:
 https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043



 On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen
 mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
 wrote:

 devin,
 Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of
 our list archive?
 Kare



 On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:


 Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along
 with a shell that I think is somewhat usable, its main
 advantage being, to me, that unlike most terminals, Emas???
 Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but
 entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell
 command, may allow this as well, but gosh being able to
 search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the best
 terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive
 commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such
 connectors to remote services.


 On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic
 mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:


 Hi Devin!


 Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace
 Voice Over?


 On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

 Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

 If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs
 with Emacspeak:
 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




 On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic
 mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:


 Hi All!


 Could you recommend me a program or add-on for
 more accessible work in Terminal?


 Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-23 Thread dan d. 
Try it, it works in the bash shell in termimal.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Nebojsa Tasic wrote:

>
> I use Terminal for running a PHP framework. I'm pleased how it works now.
>
> The only thing, on Windows, using up arrow,?? I can select previous used
> commands and don't have to type them again. Is it possible on Mac?
>
>
> On 22.2.2020. 20:49, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >
> > If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then
> > obviously you don???t need to do anything further. In my experience, the
> > terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn???t
> > wish to use it for running text editors or other interactive
> > applications a lot, as it???s rather awkward. To do that, I would much
> > rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, fortunately, my
> > other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).
> >
> > *From: * on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic
> > 
> > *Reply-To: *
> > *Date: *Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
> > *To: *
> > *Subject: *Re: Accessible Terminal
> >
> > I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During
> > instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and
> > word by word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in
> > Catalina? Maybe I will not need to install TDSR.
> >
> > On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I???ll add links:
> >
> > TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
> >
> > Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
> >
> > Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak
> >
> > A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak
> > on the Mac and working with it:
> > https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen
> > mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > devin,
> > Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of
> > our list archive?
> > Kare
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >
> >
> > Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along
> > with a shell that I think is somewhat usable, its main
> > advantage being, to me, that unlike most terminals, Emas???
> > Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but
> > entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell
> > command, may allow this as well, but gosh being able to
> > search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the best
> > terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive
> > commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such
> > connectors to remote services.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic
> > mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Devin!
> >
> >
> > Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace
> > Voice Over?
> >
> >
> > On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
> > wrote:
> >
> > Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
> >
> > If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs
> > with Emacspeak:
> > 
> > https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic
> >  > <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> >
> > Could you recommend me a program or add-on for
> > more accessible work in Terminal?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-23 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
I have barely used the Catalina terminal, and I have not heard anything about 
it being more accessible. I have always been able to navigate via word and 
character with the Mac terminal program and it certainly was less frustrating 
than using an SSH client I was forced to use on Windows 10 years ago with JAWS. 
The trick was one clear out the buffer occasionally with command-k and make 
sure you interact with the text. So before I did anything that might produce a 
lot of output I always clear out the scroll back buffer or redirect the output 
using the tee program.
Jonathan
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then 
> obviously you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the 
> terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to 
> use it for running text editors or other interactive applications a lot, as 
> it’s rather awkward. To do that, I would much rather run Linux and use the 
> console directly (and, fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a 
> dual-boot configuration).
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 
> 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal
>  
>  
> I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
> instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
> word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I 
> will not need to install TDSR.
>  
> On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Sorry, I’ll add links:
>>  
>> TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>  
>> Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ 
>> <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>
>>  
>> Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak 
>> <https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak>
>>  
>> A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the 
>> Mac and working with it: 
>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen >> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> devin,
>>> Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list 
>>> archive?
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that 
>>>> I think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike 
>>>> most terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, 
>>>> but entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, 
>>>> may allow this as well, but gosh being able to search the history is 
>>>> great. TDSR, though, is the best terminal screen reader on Mac for more 
>>>> interactive commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such 
>>>> connectors to remote services.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic >>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Devin!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>>>>>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic >>>>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you recommend me a program or add-on for mor

Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-23 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Yes, and all of the Emacs-style key bindings that you would expect to work do 
work.

 

From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 

Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 07:26
To: 
Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal

 

 

I use Terminal for running a PHP framework. I'm pleased how it works now.

The only thing, on Windows, using up arrow,  I can select previous used 
commands and don't have to type them again. Is it possible on Mac?

 

On 22.2.2020. 20:49, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then obviously 
you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the terminal is usable 
in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to use it for running text 
editors or other interactive applications a lot, as it’s rather awkward. To do 
that, I would much rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, 
fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).

 

 

From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 

Reply-To: 
Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
To: 
Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal

 

 

I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I will 
not need to install TDSR.

 

On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links: 

 

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

 

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

 

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the Mac 
and working with it: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

 

devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list archive?
Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:




Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but entire 
history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow this as 
well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the 
best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or things 
like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.




On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:



Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043






On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-23 Thread Nebojsa Tasic 


I use Terminal for running a PHP framework. I'm pleased how it works now.

The only thing, on Windows, using up arrow,  I can select previous used 
commands and don't have to type them again. Is it possible on Mac?



On 22.2.2020. 20:49, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:


If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then 
obviously you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the 
terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t 
wish to use it for running text editors or other interactive 
applications a lot, as it’s rather awkward. To do that, I would much 
rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, fortunately, my 
other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).


*From: * on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 


*Reply-To: *
*Date: *Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
*To: *
*Subject: *Re: Accessible Terminal

I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and 
word by word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in 
Catalina? Maybe I will not need to install TDSR.


On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links:

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak
on the Mac and working with it:
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
wrote:

devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of
our list archive?
Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along
with a shell that I think is somewhat usable, its main
advantage being, to me, that unlike most terminals, Emas’
Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but
entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell
command, may allow this as well, but gosh being able to
search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the best
terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive
commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such
connectors to remote services.


On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic
mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>>
wrote:


Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace
Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs
with Emacspeak:

https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic
mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for
more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-22 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then obviously 
you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the terminal is usable 
in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to use it for running text 
editors or other interactive applications a lot, as it’s rather awkward. To do 
that, I would much rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, 
fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).

 

 

From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 

Reply-To: 
Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
To: 
Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal

 

 

I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I will 
not need to install TDSR.

 

On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links: 

 

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

 

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

 

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the Mac 
and working with it: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

 

devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list archive?
Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:



Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but entire 
history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow this as 
well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the 
best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or things 
like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043





On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-22 Thread Nebojsa Tasic 


I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word 
by word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? 
Maybe I will not need to install TDSR.



On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links:

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on 
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https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043


On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen > wrote:


devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our 
list archive?

Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a 
shell that I think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to 
me, that unlike most terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not 
just a page of output, but entire history. Something like TDSR with 
Screen, the shell command, may allow this as well, but gosh being 
able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the best 
terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or 
things like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.


On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic > wrote:



Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic > wrote:



Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible 
work in Terminal?



Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-18 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Sorry, I’ll add links:

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr 

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ 

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak 


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> On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> devin,
> Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list 
> archive?
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
>> think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
>> terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but 
>> entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may 
>> allow this as well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. 
>> TDSR, though, is the best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive 
>> commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote 
>> services.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Devin!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
 
 If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
 https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043
 
 
 
> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All!
> 
> 
> Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in 
> Terminal?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-18 Thread Karen Lewellen 

devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list 
archive?

Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but entire 
history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow this as 
well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the 
best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or things 
like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.


On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-18 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
To expand on this, Emacs is a text editor with adding to be an IRC client, 
terminal, Git client, blog handler, and plenty more. Emacspeak is the subsystem 
which makes it self-voicing.

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:31 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
> think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
> terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but 
> entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow 
> this as well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, 
> though, is the best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive 
> commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote 
> services.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Devin!
>> 
>> 
>> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
>> 
>> 
>> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
>>> 
>>> If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
>>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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 Hi All!
 
 
 Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in 
 Terminal?
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-18 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but entire 
history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow this as 
well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the 
best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or things 
like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Devin!
> 
> 
> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
> 
> 
> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
>> 
>> If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in 
>>> Terminal?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-18 Thread Nebojsa Tasic 



Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




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Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-13 Thread Nebojsa Tasic 



Thank you a lot, Devin. I'm gonna try both solutions. I really need 
this, because I work in Terminal every day.




On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




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Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-13 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043



> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:
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> Hi All!
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> Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in 
> Terminal?
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> Thanks in advance.
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