Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi donna,

All good, thanks for letting me know.  I used that command in the 
distant past with older Mac OS.  I think this is working pretty well over all 
and I’m looking forward to fine tuning it.

 the tips from this thread are very helpful. 

Eric Caron 


On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:54, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Eric,

Sorry, my bad.  I was in the car, so not at my computer at the time.  I did 
think I had done that before, but maybe that command has been removed.  Or 
maybe I'm just imagining that I did it that way.  But you are right, saying 
"computer, what time is it?" does not work.  Sorry for the bum steer.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi donna,
> 
>   saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
> and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
> works but is more awkward. 
> 
> The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I 
> like keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things 
> like switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 
> 
> I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
> challenge.
> So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is 
> a “send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem 
> to do anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, 
> you can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>>  Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
>> 
>> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
>> 
>> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
>> 
>> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
>> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 OK,
 
I got it working again.
 
I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
 table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
 back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area 
 but it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed 
 to check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
 
 I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
 all.”  And it just works. 
 
 Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
 to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
 my phone.
 
 has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
 prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
 found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
 
 All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be 
 available.
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked 
> the settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing 
> 

Re: Dictation and accessability

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Eric,

Sorry, my bad.  I was in the car, so not at my computer at the time.  I did 
think I had done that before, but maybe that command has been removed.  Or 
maybe I'm just imagining that I did it that way.  But you are right, saying 
"computer, what time is it?" does not work.  Sorry for the bum steer.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi donna,
> 
>   saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
> and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
> works but is more awkward. 
> 
> The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I 
> like keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things 
> like switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 
> 
> I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
> challenge.
> So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is 
> a “send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem 
> to do anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, 
> you can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>>  Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
>> 
>> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
>> 
>> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
>> 
>> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
>> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 OK,
 
I got it working again.
 
I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
 table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
 back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area 
 but it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed 
 to check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
 
 I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
 all.”  And it just works. 
 
 Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
 to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
 my phone.
 
 has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
 prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
 found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
 
 All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be 
 available.
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked 
> the settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing 
> seems to happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather 
> enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve 

Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi All,

This is really a lot of fun.  I’m focussing on the ways the computer 
will follow commands I ask it.  I just created a command to start a new email 
and it works great.

One glitch I’m noticing.  When I do something like say “computer, start Siri.” 
it actually starts repeating the last text I dictated using actual dictation in 
a word processor or in a email body.  Is this happening to any others?  Is 
there a fix?

example,

I dictate a email and then later on I start Siri and it starts repeating my 
last dictated email.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:34, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Agreed, it used to be there before Siri, but now does not work for me nor does 
"computer tell me a joke", and I know I tried that in Sierra when I was first 
playing with Siri and dictation. 

I do wonder what the Safari "Make this speakable" command is actually doing.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi donna,
> 
>   saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
> and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
> works but is more awkward. 
> 
> The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I 
> like keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things 
> like switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 
> 
> I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
> challenge.
> So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is 
> a “send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem 
> to do anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, 
> you can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>>  Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
>> 
>> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
>> 
>> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
>> 
>> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
>> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 OK,
 
I got it working again.
 
I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
 table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
 back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area 
 but it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed 
 to check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
 
 I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
 all.”  And it just works. 
 
 Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
 to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
 my phone.
 
 has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
 prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
 found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
 
 All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be 
 available.
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the 

Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi donna,
> 
>   saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
> and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
> works but is more awkward. 
> 
> The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I 
> like keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things 
> like switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 
> 
> I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
> challenge.
> So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is 
> a “send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem 
> to do anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, 
> you can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>>  Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
>> 
>> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
>> 
>> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
>> 
>> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
>> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 OK,
 
I got it working again.
 
I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
 table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
 back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area 
 but it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed 
 to check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
 
 I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
 all.”  And it just works. 
 
 Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
 to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
 my phone.
 
 has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
 prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
 found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
 
 All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be 
 available.
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked 
> the settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing 
> seems to happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather 
> enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area. 
>  I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
> mic  and that made no difference.
> 
> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 

Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Agreed, it used to be there before Siri, but now does not work for me nor does 
"computer tell me a joke", and I know I tried that in Sierra when I was first 
playing with Siri and dictation. 

I do wonder what the Safari "Make this speakable" command is actually doing.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi donna,
> 
>   saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
> and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
> works but is more awkward. 
> 
> The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I 
> like keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things 
> like switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 
> 
> I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
> challenge.
> So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is 
> a “send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem 
> to do anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, 
> you can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>>  Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
>> 
>> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
>> 
>> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
>> 
>> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
>> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 OK,
 
I got it working again.
 
I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
 table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
 back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area 
 but it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed 
 to check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
 
 I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
 all.”  And it just works. 
 
 Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
 to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
 my phone.
 
 has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
 
 Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
 prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
 found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
 
 All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be 
 available.
 
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
 
 
> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked 
> the settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing 
> seems to happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather 
> enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve 

Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Eric,

I was speaking of the automator app that has been discussed on this list a 
little. Automator is a application that allows one to drag a set of fairly 
standard sequences into an order and have them be performed. It is supposed to 
be the common man's answer to AppleScript. So you can easily add grab selection 
of photographs and attach to a new e-mail. Automator has had a Save as 
dictation command as one of the options for a couple of years now. 

I am also appending the URL for how to actually have an AppleScript be used as 
a speakable item. This guide says to save them in the Speakable Items area of 
your Library and not in the Scripts folder. So, this information supersedes my 
last e-mail. 

https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/LanguagesUtilities/Conceptual/MacAutomationScriptingGuide/UseDictationtoRunScripts.html

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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi donna,

saying” computer, what time is it.” doesn’t do anything on my computer 
and I don’t see that as a command.  Did you set that up on your own?  Siri 
works but is more awkward. 

The more I play with this and learn commands the more enjoyable it is.  I like 
keeping my hands on the computer home keys and this is great for things like 
switching between applications or opening and closing applications. 

I”m making progress on navigating mail mostly with voice and it is a fun 
challenge.
So did you set this time command up yourself? and related question, there is a 
“send that command” I was hoping to use that for mail but it doesn’t seem to do 
anything.  Does that work for you or anyone else?

Thanks,


Eric Caron 


On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:01, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Eric,

That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, you 
can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron > wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
>   Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
> 
> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
> 
> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
> 
> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK,
>>> 
>>> I got it working again.
>>> 
>>> I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>>> 
>>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>>> all.”  And it just works. 
>>> 
>>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>>> my phone.
>>> 
>>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>>> 
>>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron > wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
 a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
 beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
 settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
 happen.
 
to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
 the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
 
If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
 glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
 it.
 
 I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
 I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
 mic  and that made no difference.
 
 I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
 happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
 
 Best,
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Eric,

That’s a piece of cake. Just say computer, what time is it. Alternatively, you 
can start Siri, and ask Siri what time it is.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
>   Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
> 
> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
> 
> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
> 
> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK,
>>> 
>>> I got it working again.
>>> 
>>> I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>>> 
>>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>>> all.”  And it just works. 
>>> 
>>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>>> my phone.
>>> 
>>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>>> 
>>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
 a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
 beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
 settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
 happen.
 
to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
 the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
 
If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
 glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
 it.
 
 I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
 I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
 mic  and that made no difference.
 
 I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
 happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
 
 Best,
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

Trying some fancy Apple Mail formatting here… So might need to resend without 
that.
Find /Library/Scripts/VoiceOver  (command-shift-G in Finder is your friend 
here).
Find the Get Time of day script.
Copy this to your home library Scripts folder.
Save a copy as a runnable script.
Add a custom open item to dictation and point to the runnable Apple Script.
I am not quite sure about step  4 though I have done it in the past.




Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:09 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
>   Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.
> 
> My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 
> 
> Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?
> 
> I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk 
> with my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I 
>> just have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound 
>> devices could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see 
>> any of the instructions to add automator actions to speech?
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK,
>>> 
>>> I got it working again.
>>> 
>>> I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>>> 
>>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>>> all.”  And it just works. 
>>> 
>>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>>> my phone.
>>> 
>>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>>> 
>>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
 
 Hi listers,
 
I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
 a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
 beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
 settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
 happen.
 
to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
 the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
 
If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
 glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
 it.
 
 I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
 I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
 mic  and that made no difference.
 
 I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
 happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
 
 Best,
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi Donna,

Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.

My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 

Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?

I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk with 
my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 

Best, 

Eric Caron 

On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin > wrote:

Eric,

To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I just 
> have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound devices 
> could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see any of the 
> instructions to add automator actions to speech?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> OK,
>> 
>>  I got it working again.
>> 
>>  I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>> 
>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>> all.”  And it just works. 
>> 
>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>> 
>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
>>> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
>>> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
>>> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
>>> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
>>> 
>>> If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
>>> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
>>> I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
>>> mic  and that made no difference.
>>> 
>>> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
>>> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi Donna,

Sweet!  That works perfectly and I don’t even have to do any fancy work.

My next goal is to be able to ask my computer for the time. 

Before I work on assigning a command do you have a idea for that?

I actually like being able to use a mix of hands on keyboard work and talk with 
my computer.  When it works it makes tasks flow and is just fun. 

Best, 

Eric Caron 

On Jan 14, 2018, at 10:03, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Eric,

To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I just 
> have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound devices 
> could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see any of the 
> instructions to add automator actions to speech?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> OK,
>> 
>>  I got it working again.
>> 
>>  I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>> 
>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>> all.”  And it just works. 
>> 
>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>> 
>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
>>> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
>>> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
>>> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
>>> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
>>> 
>>> If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
>>> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
>>> I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
>>> mic  and that made no difference.
>>> 
>>> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
>>> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jonathan,  I’m just getting started but if you can assign a key stroke like 
command s to something it looks like you can assign that in the dictation area 
in accessibility in system preferences.  that should give you the functionality.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 14, 2018, at 09:40, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I just 
have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound devices could 
be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see any of the 
instructions to add automator actions to speech?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> OK,
> 
>   I got it working again.
> 
>   I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me back 
> most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but it 
> didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to check 
> it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
> 
> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select all.” 
>  And it just works. 
> 
> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way to 
> get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on my 
> phone.
> 
> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
> 
> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
>> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
>> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
>> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
>> happen.
>> 
>>  to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
>> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
>> 
>>  If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
>> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
>> it.
>> 
>> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  I 
>> looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal mic  
>> and that made no difference.
>> 
>> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
>> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Donna Goodin]

Eric,

To Start Siri using dictation, just say "Start Siri.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I just 
> have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound devices 
> could be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see any of the 
> instructions to add automator actions to speech?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> OK,
>> 
>>  I got it working again.
>> 
>>  I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
>> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me 
>> back most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but 
>> it didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to 
>> check it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
>> 
>> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select 
>> all.”  And it just works. 
>> 
>> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way 
>> to get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
>> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
>> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
>> 
>> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
>>> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
>>> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
>>> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
>>> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
>>> 
>>> If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
>>> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  
>>> I looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal 
>>> mic  and that made no difference.
>>> 
>>> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
>>> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Glad to hear you got it working. I personally don't use dictation much I just 
have learned to think through my fingers. My code to switch sound devices could 
be very cool if it was set up as a speech item. Did you see any of the 
instructions to add automator actions to speech?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> OK,
> 
>   I got it working again.
> 
>   I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
> table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me back 
> most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but it 
> didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to check 
> it and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 
> 
> I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select all.” 
>  And it just works. 
> 
> Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way to 
> get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on my 
> phone.
> 
> has anyone out there accomplished that yet?
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
> prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
> found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.
> 
> All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
>> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
>> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
>> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
>> happen.
>> 
>>  to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
>> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
>> 
>>  If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
>> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying 
>> it.
>> 
>> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  I 
>> looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal mic  
>> and that made no difference.
>> 
>> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
>> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

OK,

I got it working again.

I went to accessibility and dictation.  I first went to the commands 
table and unchecked and rechecked each item and . that seemed to give me back 
most functions.  I tried to check the advanced button in this area but it 
didn’t seemed to stay checked.  finally using the space bar seemed to check it 
and I hit done and now things seemed to work as before. 

I’m enjoying being able to say, computer, “ go to beginning” or “select all.”  
And it just works. 

Now I’m off to see if I can follow some directions I found to set up a way to 
get Siri to work from a voice command on my Mac, similar to Hey Siri on my 
phone.

has anyone out there accomplished that yet?

Eric Caron 


On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.

All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.


Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
> happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  I 
> looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal mic  
> and that made no difference.
> 
> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jonathan,

the press FN key twice is working for text dictation for me.  It 
doesn’t work for the commands I was using with the computer keywords like 
“select all” or go to beginning. 

I keep thinking it must be something I have done to mess this up as it 
used to work nicely.  Now it acts like it isn’t on.  yet I think I’ve turned 
everything on.

thanks for the suggestion it will keep me searching.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 13, 2018, at 15:06, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.

All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.


Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
> happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  I 
> looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal mic  
> and that made no difference.
> 
> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Dictation and accessability

[Jonathan Cohn]

Look at the dictation area of the Keyboard system preferences. I generally 
prefer using the hit Fn button twice to associating with a keyword. I have 
found otherwise sometimes Voiceover causes dictation to start.

All the commands listed in the Accessibility area should still be available.


Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   I made some progress with the dictation feature that allows you to say 
> a word like “computer” and then give commands like open mail, or go to 
> beginning.  Now, I can’t seem to get it to work any longer.  I checked the 
> settings I could find and the ones I used to start it and nothing seems to 
> happen.
> 
>   to start using it I went to accessibility in system preferences and in 
> the table found dictation and checked the box to listen for the key word. 
> 
>   If there is a way I may have  accidentally stop it from working I’d be 
> glad for a tip on what I can do to get it up again.  I was rather enjoying it.
> 
> I’ve tried unchecking and checking the check boxes in the dictation area.  I 
> looked in sounds and it is set to automatic.  I changed it to internal mic  
> and that made no difference.
> 
> I know it is a long shot but I’d thought I’d ask to see if this may have 
> happened to someone else and they have a suggestion.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Eric Caron 
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