RE: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
Hi Ramy, When the installer goes to start installing, Hit cancel and stop the installation. Then under your applications folder find the osX sierra installer file and copy it on to a usb device to transfer it to your other machine then do the copy and paste in to that machines applications folder and it will allow you to install on both, If you don't grab the installer before the installation starts the file gets removed once installation has finished. Good luck. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2016 1:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine Hello all: now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? my 2nd question is concerning time machine: can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different from 1 to another because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the VMware that I don't need in my studio. Thanks Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
That depends, Louis. All VO+F3 does is speak what is under the Voiceover cursor. If you're not already focused on the progress, then that won't work. Good suggestion, but just bare that in mind. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "lscrivani"To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine If you do a vo + f3, it will say a percentage of the download. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine ok, thanks, but now I start downloading Sierra, there is no progress bar or something that indicates weather I'm downloading or not. any ideas? On 9/23/16, lscrivani wrote: As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If it is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes as long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better off having a separate back up unit for each. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine Hello all: now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? my 2nd question is concerning time machine: can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different from 1 to another because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the VMware that I don't need in my studio. Thanks Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
Thanks all. will do this exactly On 9/23/16, lscrivaniwrote: > If you do a vo + f3, it will say a percentage of the download. > Louis > > > -Original Message- > From: Ramy Moustafa > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:57 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time > machine > > ok, thanks, but now I start downloading Sierra, there is no progress > bar or something that indicates weather I'm downloading or not. > any ideas? > > > On 9/23/16, lscrivani wrote: >> As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If >> it >> is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes >> as >> >> long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better >> off >> having a separate back up unit for each. >> Louis >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ramy Moustafa >> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine >> >> Hello all: >> now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install >> sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. >> so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer >> in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the >> installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? >> >> my 2nd question is concerning time machine: >> can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, >> can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 >> hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, >> and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different >> from 1 to another >> because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. >> and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the >> VMware that I don't need in my studio. >> Thanks >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> Ramy MoustafaSaber >> Music instructor @: >> Faculty ofmusical education >> Music arranger and Sound engineer @: >> Harmony Recording Studio >> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> >> or >> >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: >> >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you >> >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Ramy MoustafaSaber > Music instructor @: > Faculty ofmusical education > Music arranger and Sound engineer @: > Harmony Recording Studio > https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
If you do a vo + f3, it will say a percentage of the download. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine ok, thanks, but now I start downloading Sierra, there is no progress bar or something that indicates weather I'm downloading or not. any ideas? On 9/23/16, lscrivaniwrote: As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If it is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes as long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better off having a separate back up unit for each. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine Hello all: now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? my 2nd question is concerning time machine: can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different from 1 to another because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the VMware that I don't need in my studio. Thanks Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
Hi, When the Sierra Installer downloads, it actually downloads to the Applications folder, not the Downloads folder. Also, after it downloads, it will automatically open the installer ready for you to start. If you start the process, it will automatically delete the installer after the installation is complete. to avoid this from happening, press cmd-q to Quit the Installer, then go into your Applications folder and select the Sierra installer. Copy this installer to another location, USB stick, Desktop, external HD etc. Once you have the second copy, then you can go back into the Applications folder and open the Sierra Installer. Follow the prompts and perform the installation. If you've copied the Sierra Installer to another location, you can then put it into the Applications folder on your second Mac and perform the installation once again. Hope that makes sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 23, 2016, at 08:33, lscrivaniwrote: As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If it is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes as long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better off having a separate back up unit for each. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine Hello all: now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? my 2nd question is concerning time machine: can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different from 1 to another because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the VMware that I don't need in my studio. Thanks Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
ok, thanks, but now I start downloading Sierra, there is no progress bar or something that indicates weather I'm downloading or not. any ideas? On 9/23/16, lscrivaniwrote: > As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If it > is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes as > > long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better off > having a separate back up unit for each. > Louis > > > -Original Message- > From: Ramy Moustafa > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine > > Hello all: > now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install > sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. > so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer > in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the > installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? > > my 2nd question is concerning time machine: > can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, > can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 > hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, > and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different > from 1 to another > because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. > and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the > VMware that I don't need in my studio. > Thanks > > Thanks > > > -- > Ramy MoustafaSaber > Music instructor @: > Faculty ofmusical education > Music arranger and Sound engineer @: > Harmony Recording Studio > https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine
As far as the backup, it depends on the size of the backup drive. If it is large enough to equal the size of the drives on both units, then yes as long as you create a partition on the drive first. But you are better off having a separate back up unit for each. Louis -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Installing sierra on 2 computers, and a question on time machine Hello all: now, I have my 2 macs, the mini and my MacBook pro. I need to install sierra on both, but don't want to download it twice. so, after downloading from the mac appstore, will I find the installer in the downloads folder? can I upgrade to sierra before taking the installer from downloads? or I must take it 1st if I will find it? my 2nd question is concerning time machine: can I use a hard that will be prepared to time machine on mac mini, can I use this hard to backup with MacBook pro also? or it must be 1 hd for each machine? of cores each machine will have it's own apps, and I don't want the apps to be on both? the backup will different from 1 to another because, my macmini is for my studio it has pro tools etc. and I don't want these apps to be on my MacBook pro that has the VMware that I don't need in my studio. Thanks Thanks -- Ramy MoustafaSaber Music instructor @: Faculty ofmusical education Music arranger and Sound engineer @: Harmony Recording Studio https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.