Re: Lion Questions
To get to the top of the list the correct command is control option F and shift up aero I'm sorry left arrow. To get to the bottom of the list the correct command is control option F and shift right arrow HGH, Johnny Cakes On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in Lion? Thanks for the assist. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Questions
Hi, you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to get to the top of the table. About Voiceover not talking at start up, I don't think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that. At least, not away that I know of. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in Lion? Thanks for the assist. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Questions
Hi Ricardo, Okay, that did it. I thought I had interacted with the messages table, but apparently not. Thanks. Les On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to get to the top of the table. About Voiceover not talking at start up, I don't think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that. At least, not away that I know of. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in Lion? Thanks for the assist. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Questions
Hi. I also cann't move to beginning and end of the list of messages in the Mail using standard commands. In other lists and edit fields I can. AZ 28.03.2012 21:48, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Ricardo, Okay, that did it. I thought I had interacted with the messages table, but apparently not. Thanks. Les On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to get to the top of the table. About Voiceover not talking at start up, I don't think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that. At least, not away that I know of. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Krieglerkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in Lion? Thanks for the assist. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Questions
One thing I did with my mac mini was to set up at least one app to run at login time. In my case, I chose terminal as I do like to go into the shell quite often. For some reason, when I do this VoiceOver will always come up talking after login and the finder focuses me on the desktop. I have terminal start but be hidden; otherwise, it would probably take focus. On 3/28/12, AZ rosopo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I also cann't move to beginning and end of the list of messages in the Mail using standard commands. In other lists and edit fields I can. AZ 28.03.2012 21:48, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Ricardo, Okay, that did it. I thought I had interacted with the messages table, but apparently not. Thanks. Les On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to get to the top of the table. About Voiceover not talking at start up, I don't think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that. At least, not away that I know of. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Krieglerkriegle...@gmail.com wrote: This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in Lion? Thanks for the assist. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
