Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Barry, Thanks. I didn’t think of doing VO-Right arrow after interacting with the button because VO said “Interacting with title of button”. That saves me several steps, Cheers, Anne On 28 Oct 2013, at 01:27, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, You can just interact with the button to read the button title. That is the currently selected style. I guess you have to dumb down like me to figure things like that out. :) What is happening is that voiceover isn’t reading the title of the button at all. For some reason a developer at Apple thought it would be more helpful for Voiceover users to set the accessibility description. Whenever that is set, vo will read it instead of the actual button title. cheers. On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Not true. iWorks is only free if you have bought a new mac or iOS device after September 1. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 28/10/2013 08:34, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Actually, it is true that if you already have an installed copy of iWork, the upgrade is free. I know this for a fact, because I bought iWork09 when it first came out and it was installed on my MBA when I upgraded to Mavericks. I got the upgrade of iWork free. The old version must be installed, however. So you must install Mavericks on top of your existing OS, at least once, so that the new iWork applications go into your purchase history. Cheers, Anne On 28 Oct 2013, at 10:05, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. iWorks is only free if you have bought a new mac or iOS device after September 1. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 28/10/2013 08:34, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Really, cause when I signed in to the mac app store after my upgrade, it told me that numbers, and pages were both being updated. Kliphton ~iMessageEmail~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 “Personal blog-read at your own risk!” http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris H Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 4:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems Not true. iWorks is only free if you have bought a new mac or iOS device after September 1. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 28/10/2013 08:34, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi everyone. I wanted to add my voice to Anne’s and say that I got upgraded from iWork 09. I also originally purchased it on disk and it was upgraded to the new version released with Mavericks. HTH Matthew Campbell. On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Actually, it is true that if you already have an installed copy of iWork, the upgrade is free. I know this for a fact, because I bought iWork09 when it first came out and it was installed on my MBA when I upgraded to Mavericks. I got the upgrade of iWork free. The old version must be installed, however. So you must install Mavericks on top of your existing OS, at least once, so that the new iWork applications go into your purchase history. Cheers, Anne On 28 Oct 2013, at 10:05, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. iWorks is only free if you have bought a new mac or iOS device after September 1. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 28/10/2013 08:34, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi, Not sure what the actual rules are for this. I did have a licensed copy of iWorks and was able to update to the newest Pages, Keynote and Numbers for free through the App Store. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 28, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. iWorks is only free if you have bought a new mac or iOS device after September 1. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 28/10/2013 08:34, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi listers, Am I correct, that the Iworks upgrades will be free if you have already an installed copy of the software? kr -Peter On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:32:24PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
OK Anne! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Well, I am also giving things a try, and may be we can talk at some point to bring things in common. As soon as I have something, I will let you know. Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 23:37, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk escribió: Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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That is very very bad, as there is a lot of people who works with many paragraph stiles and fields. I really don’ like it, hope it can be fixed, may be we can try reporting it to the iWork team and see what they say. Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Daniela, You can report problems directly from the Pages app. In the Pages menu is an item called Provide Pages Feedback which goes to the appropriate page on the Apple website. I’ve already done this as I’m furious about the degradation in the functionality of Pages. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 11:03, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: That is very very bad, as there is a lot of people who works with many paragraph stiles and fields. I really don’ like it, hope it can be fixed, may be we can try reporting it to the iWork team and see what they say. Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Anne, There are actually lots of keystrokes for changing font stiles and such. Have you looked in the keyboard shortcuts list in the help documentation? It seems that the hotkeys that could be set for paragraph styles are gone, but I don’t see that as a big degradation. It is actually very easy to jump into the formatter to set them. I understand the problems for some people caused by the absence of the mail merge fields and I haven’t been able to figure out how saving to rtf got left out, but I think that there is a good chance that they will be coming back soon. I think these apps have been totally re written and some features just haven’t made it back in yet. Most actually are there and people just can’t be bothered to find them. I’ve seen a lot of talk on the web saying that these apps have been dumbed down, and I personally think that those comments are really unfortunate and unfair. There is a lot here, and What is here seems quite good to me, and for the things that are missing, I think for now everybody should be willing to give them a chance. This is the app store age where new features can be instantly pushed out to millions of people for free. Take care. On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Barry, Whether you think that Pages has been dumbed down or not depends on how you use it. For my purposes as a translator, the new version is not good at all. Yes, it’s easy to jump to the paragraph styles button in the formatter, but VO doesn’t read the name of the current style. Curiously, VO-Shift-c actually copies the name of the current style to the clipboard which can then be read in the Finder, but this is a lot of keystrokes to accomplish what I use to do with VO-Cmd-Hotspot number. The lack of sender fields and merge fields is also a very serious omission for people who run their own businesses. I have looked at the table of short cuts for Pages, but I don’t see anything that solves my problems. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 14:41, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Anne, There are actually lots of keystrokes for changing font stiles and such. Have you looked in the keyboard shortcuts list in the help documentation? It seems that the hotkeys that could be set for paragraph styles are gone, but I don’t see that as a big degradation. It is actually very easy to jump into the formatter to set them. I understand the problems for some people caused by the absence of the mail merge fields and I haven’t been able to figure out how saving to rtf got left out, but I think that there is a good chance that they will be coming back soon. I think these apps have been totally re written and some features just haven’t made it back in yet. Most actually are there and people just can’t be bothered to find them. I’ve seen a lot of talk on the web saying that these apps have been dumbed down, and I personally think that those comments are really unfortunate and unfair. There is a lot here, and What is here seems quite good to me, and for the things that are missing, I think for now everybody should be willing to give them a chance. This is the app store age where new features can be instantly pushed out to millions of people for free. Take care. On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Anne, You can just interact with the button to read the button title. That is the currently selected style. I guess you have to dumb down like me to figure things like that out. :) What is happening is that voiceover isn’t reading the title of the button at all. For some reason a developer at Apple thought it would be more helpful for Voiceover users to set the accessibility description. Whenever that is set, vo will read it instead of the actual button title. cheers. On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com escribió: If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi, Unfortunately, you are correct. We have lost all those features, which is rather annoying just power users. I also don't like the fact that we can't export to RTF files anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi For RTF, you can copy your text in to text edit and save it to RTF that way right? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Unfortunately, you are correct. We have lost all those features, which is rather annoying just power users. I also don't like the fact that we can't export to RTF files anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Thanks, Daniel, I’ll report this as a problem. This is going to prevent my husband from upgrading to Mavericks as he relies on the merge fields for invoicing. How very short-sighted of Apple to do this. They seem to have made the iWork suite as near to the IOS version as possible. A very bad idea as far as I’m concerned. Cheers, Anne On 26 Oct 2013, at 22:14, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Unfortunately, you are correct. We have lost all those features, which is rather annoying just power users. I also don't like the fact that we can't export to RTF files anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Yes, I agree. Stripping the ability to save in rtf was incredibly shortsided. However, yes you can copy your text into text edit and save in rtf. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Thanks, Daniel, I’ll report this as a problem. This is going to prevent my husband from upgrading to Mavericks as he relies on the merge fields for invoicing. How very short-sighted of Apple to do this. They seem to have made the iWork suite as near to the IOS version as possible. A very bad idea as far as I’m concerned. Cheers, Anne On 26 Oct 2013, at 22:14, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Unfortunately, you are correct. We have lost all those features, which is rather annoying just power users. I also don't like the fact that we can't export to RTF files anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
