Re: Possible text
It's not a toggle. My guess is it is the 'embedded text and images' item. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/3/2019 11:10 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Tim and Everyone, Exactly which setting in VoiceOver Verbosity does one toggle in order to disable the “possible” text announcement? I did not see any obvious choices on my iPad. Mark From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 7:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Possible text Hi, It's just VO taking a guess at an unlabelled item. VO is analyzing the screen, when it finds something that is unlabelled, it will check close by to see if the developer is expecting the user to know what something is by what's in the vicinity and give a guess. It's saying "Possible" because it's just an educated guess. As Devin mentioned, turn it off in your Verbosity settings. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:36, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: You can turn this off in verbosity settings. On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton wrote: After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/533acbaf-0b98-c2b9-3e97-18581386017b%40icloud.com.
RE: Possible text
Hello Tim and Everyone, Exactly which setting in VoiceOver Verbosity does one toggle in order to disable the “possible” text announcement? I did not see any obvious choices on my iPad. Mark From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 7:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Possible text Hi, It's just VO taking a guess at an unlabelled item. VO is analyzing the screen, when it finds something that is unlabelled, it will check close by to see if the developer is expecting the user to know what something is by what's in the vicinity and give a guess. It's saying "Possible" because it's just an educated guess. As Devin mentioned, turn it off in your Verbosity settings. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:36, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: You can turn this off in verbosity settings. On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton wrote: After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it. Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/485C46FC-37A6-49FA-92BF-D7BF86A93D97%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B8ACE46-722A-4469-8F6C-DD2710D45A6B%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/78EE8745-5D99-461B-86F6-98417F615F9F%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list ca
Re: Possible text
Hi, It's just VO taking a guess at an unlabelled item. VO is analyzing the screen, when it finds something that is unlabelled, it will check close by to see if the developer is expecting the user to know what something is by what's in the vicinity and give a guess. It's saying "Possible" because it's just an educated guess. As Devin mentioned, turn it off in your Verbosity settings. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:36, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: You can turn this off in verbosity settings. > On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the > most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice > stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from > and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text > followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in > not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it. > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/485C46FC-37A6-49FA-92BF-D7BF86A93D97%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B8ACE46-722A-4469-8F6C-DD2710D45A6B%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/78EE8745-5D99-461B-86F6-98417F615F9F%40me.com.
Re: Possible text
Wondered about that, as well. I believe it was even happening in iOS 12. Seems to appear on things like buttons or sliders, rather than edit fields. I wonder if this is related to the Key Labels settings? Can’t recall where I last saw that setting... Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33E0F8FD-CE01-4D91-A0AB-8A05BF5BA83B%40sbcglobal.net.
Re: Possible text
You can turn this off in verbosity settings. > On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the > most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice > stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from > and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text > followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in > not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it. > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/485C46FC-37A6-49FA-92BF-D7BF86A93D97%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8B8ACE46-722A-4469-8F6C-DD2710D45A6B%40me.com.
Re: possible Text edit discovery: can anyone confirm?
Hi, That's fairly normal behaviour for a Word Processor. Consider that Bold, Italic and such are applied to specific text within a given area whereas alignment is applied to specific lines of text. Therefore, when the cursor is on a certain line of text, and the center alignment is applied, that line of text is centered. If your cursor was at the end of whatever you're typing, and you set it to Bold, then everything from then on would be bold until you turned that toggle off. If you put the cursor in the middle of some text, pressed cmd-b to start Bold, then only the new text entered would be bold. Hope that makes sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-09-25, at 5:51 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was playing with Text Edit again today and I think I figured something out. In MS Word, you highlight the text you want to format and then apply the formatting. In Text Edit, you do the same for bold or italic, but aligning seems different. I think you can just move to the start of the text to be, say, centered and press command vertical line. To stop centering, you press command left brace. No highlighting required, you just issue the commands for alignment where you want them and off you go, but remember to left-align after you are done centering or everything will be centered. Am I right here? Do even bold or other format commands work this way? thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: possible Text edit discovery: can anyone confirm?
I think so. I got some inconsistencies when trying to adjust text earlier, but I'll keep playing with it. Thanks. On Sep 25, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, That's fairly normal behaviour for a Word Processor. Consider that Bold, Italic and such are applied to specific text within a given area whereas alignment is applied to specific lines of text. Therefore, when the cursor is on a certain line of text, and the center alignment is applied, that line of text is centered. If your cursor was at the end of whatever you're typing, and you set it to Bold, then everything from then on would be bold until you turned that toggle off. If you put the cursor in the middle of some text, pressed cmd-b to start Bold, then only the new text entered would be bold. Hope that makes sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-09-25, at 5:51 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was playing with Text Edit again today and I think I figured something out. In MS Word, you highlight the text you want to format and then apply the formatting. In Text Edit, you do the same for bold or italic, but aligning seems different. I think you can just move to the start of the text to be, say, centered and press command vertical line. To stop centering, you press command left brace. No highlighting required, you just issue the commands for alignment where you want them and off you go, but remember to left-align after you are done centering or everything will be centered. Am I right here? Do even bold or other format commands work this way? thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
