Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandra,

Your trackpad does the same thing as the mouse. You can turn VoiceOver off and 
press the trackpad to click the mouse. However, I just make sure that the 
trackpad commander is off and click with the trackpad without turning VoiceOver 
off.
Also, I installed a handy utility that allows me to move the mouse without 
turning on Mousekeys. In VoiceOver Utility, under Verbosity/Announcements, I: 
check the checkbox Speak text under mouse after delay, and set the delay to 
zero. I can then move the mouse with the trackpad and hear where it is.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 25 Apr 2016, at 19:40, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> Gary this is a very interesting solution. The only problem is I don't have a 
> mouse. I have a trackpad on my Mac. Thanks for the help though I see what 
> you're doing and I think it makes sense
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Gary  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope this isn’t too late, but sometimes when I have this issue, I make 
>> sure I’m on the radio button or check box that I need to be on, and turn off 
>> VoiceOver, press a mouse click, turn on VoiceOver and verify that my 
>> selection worked.
>> Gary
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
>>> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
>>> 1. I am applying for myself and
>>> 2 I am helping someone else.
>>> 
>>> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
>>> avail. 
>>> 
>>> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
>>> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
>>> In short, what would you do? 
>>> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do 
>>> you figure it out?
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Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Gary]

press down on the track pad for a mouse click.
Gary

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> Gary this is a very interesting solution. The only problem is I don't have a 
> mouse. I have a trackpad on my Mac. Thanks for the help though I see what 
> you're doing and I think it makes sense
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Gary  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope this isn’t too late, but sometimes when I have this issue, I make 
>> sure I’m on the radio button or check box that I need to be on, and turn off 
>> VoiceOver, press a mouse click, turn on VoiceOver and verify that my 
>> selection worked.
>> Gary
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
>>> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
>>> 1. I am applying for myself and
>>> 2 I am helping someone else.
>>> 
>>> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
>>> avail. 
>>> 
>>> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
>>> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
>>> In short, what would you do? 
>>> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do 
>>> you figure it out?
>>> 
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Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Sandra E. Finley]

Gary this is a very interesting solution. The only problem is I don't have a 
mouse. I have a trackpad on my Mac. Thanks for the help though I see what 
you're doing and I think it makes sense

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> I hope this isn’t too late, but sometimes when I have this issue, I make sure 
> I’m on the radio button or check box that I need to be on, and turn off 
> VoiceOver, press a mouse click, turn on VoiceOver and verify that my 
> selection worked.
> Gary
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
>> 
>> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
>> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
>> 1. I am applying for myself and
>> 2 I am helping someone else.
>> 
>> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
>> avail. 
>> 
>> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
>> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
>> In short, what would you do? 
>> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do 
>> you figure it out?
>> 
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Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Gary]

I hope this isn’t too late, but sometimes when I have this issue, I make sure 
I’m on the radio button or check box that I need to be on, and turn off 
VoiceOver, press a mouse click, turn on VoiceOver and verify that my selection 
worked.
Gary
 
> On Apr 24, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
> 1. I am applying for myself and
> 2 I am helping someone else.
> 
> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
> avail. 
> 
> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
> In short, what would you do? 
> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do you 
> figure it out?
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Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Jonathan Cohn]

Did you enable the accessible mode? When looking at 
https://secure.ssa.gov/iClaim/Ent001Submit.do
There were two sets of radio buttons. If you use the arrow keys and tab keys on 
the radio buttons then what is spoken is what is selected, and VoiceOver in 
high verbosity mode did speak selected when a radio button was selected. 

The second question (radio button ) asks if you are blind and using the 
accessible version of the application. I did not fool with that button. I did 
tell Safari to not load Flash for the SSA.gov domain, so that might have 
effected my results.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On 24 Apr 2016, at 14:56, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
> 1. I am applying for myself and
> 2 I am helping someone else.
> 
> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
> avail. 
> 
> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
> In short, what would you do? 
> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do you 
> figure it out?
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Re: Selecting an option on the Social Security web site

[Phil Halton]

I would try to click with the mouse. One, bring the mouse to the element by 
pressing command vo plus F5. Two), then test to see if what is under the mouse 
is what you want by pressing VO five. If that reports the desired item. Then do 
a mouse click with vo shift spacebar. Sometimes routing the mouse to the BO 
cursor doesn't work very well. That's why I suggest that you check what's under 
the mouse after you do the route. If the thing you want to click is not 
reported with vo plus f five, then clicking the mouse won't work.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 24, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> I hate to acknowledge this but I am old enough to be applying for Medicare. 
> On the Social Security site the very first question  offers two selections:
> 1. I am applying for myself and
> 2 I am helping someone else.
> 
> I cannot select one. I have tried spacebar, VO spacebar and enter but to no 
> avail. 
> 
> I also tried pressing VO H H and then typing "select." That pulled up the 
> keystroke combination of option, control enter, but that also did not work. 
> In short, what would you do? 
> More importantly, if you don't know how to do something like this, how do you 
> figure it out?
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