Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Wow, very impressive! Thanks for the quick response, and I'll certainly give that podcast a listen. I understand about the accuracy, but I will say this: with Sendero's app, my accuracy was almost alwasy 16 or 33 feet (about 5 to 10 meters) so you might be able to get better than 7 meters in may cases. I don't know how all this works, I am simply letting you know that it may be possible. On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Thank you for this info. IPhone5 and any external device I have tried, reports best accuracy of 5 meters. I never give instructions about direction if you are closer than reported accuracy. My strategy is to get to the edge of accuracy to be able to report last direction. So, you should be able to know direction where to go and actually get closer than this last reported direction. Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 20.44: Wow, very impressive! Thanks for the quick response, and I'll certainly give that podcast a listen. I understand about the accuracy, but I will say this: with Sendero's app, my accuracy was almost alwasy 16 or 33 feet (about 5 to 10 meters) so you might be able to get better than 7 meters in may cases. I don't know how all this works, I am simply letting you know that it may be possible. On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Usually 3rd party app has selection for that. To my knowledge, Navigon, Tomtom and Navigon does. BlindSquare support also simulation so you can plan your trip beforehand, lookaround virtually to find bus stops, favourite them and set alerts by distance. When you are in simulated place, BSq limits 3rd party app integeration to apps that allow planning route by giving both start and end location. Only Google Maps and Apple Maps provide this (both are free) but they don't have accessible pedestrian instructions (yet), but in simulation you can still check the route. Lähetetty iPadista Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 21.22: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
What do you mean about structured discovery? Lähetetty iPhonesta Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11: Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com --
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Hi Alex Think about this too. You don't always need the turn by turn because a lot of times you may be going places that you already know, but you want BlindSquare for the bus stop. I had the situation today. I knew exactly where the place was that I wanted to go to, but the Dallas area rapid transit GPS on the bus was not working. This is something that happens quite often, and you never know when it's going to happen. So, I was able to find my own busstops. But I didn't need NAVIGON this time because I didn't need to turn by turn. Also, in this case I didn't really want very much announcement on points of interest because I wanted to come straight home. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Indeed, I often know the streets but just don'w know where on a street a destination is. So, I can get to the street, then use Blindsquare to tell me whre to go from there, or even get into the area and have it tell me. At least, I imagine I can - I don't currently have $20 to drop on this app, but it will be my next big purchase. On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Think about this too. You don't always need the turn by turn because a lot of times you may be going places that you already know, but you want BlindSquare for the bus stop. I had the situation today. I knew exactly where the place was that I wanted to go to, but the Dallas area rapid transit GPS on the bus was not working. This is something that happens quite often, and you never know when it's going to happen. So, I was able to find my own busstops. But I didn't need NAVIGON this time because I didn't need to turn by turn. Also, in this case I didn't really want very much announcement on points of interest because I wanted to come straight home. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once again considering Blindsquare. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
What I mean is that it is possible to observe what is arround you and thus to find your way to any place you wish even if you don't know the area. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean about structured discovery? Lähetetty iPhonesta Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11: Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter? 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never know. 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to destinations? Thanks in
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Certainly, in most situations and given enough time, you can probably find what you want to. However, some destinations are going to be hard to find, or there will be no one around to ask, or you don't have time to spend trying to sort things out, or the bus driver will forget your stop, and the list goes on. Technology just offers a great independence tool that enriches many people's travel experience in many ways. On Jul 12, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: What I mean is that it is possible to observe what is arround you and thus to find your way to any place you wish even if you don't know the area. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean about structured discovery? Lähetetty iPhonesta Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11: Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method?
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
I'm definitely a fan of structured discovery. However, I appreciate the ability to do the equivalent of sign reading that my sighted peers enjoy. Combining technology and alternative techniques works - smile! I'm a satisfied user of BlindSquare! On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: What I mean is that it is possible to observe what is arround you and thus to find your way to any place you wish even if you don't know the area. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean about structured discovery? Lähetetty iPhonesta Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11: Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com mailto:mehg...@gmail.com kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 15.47: Hi all, All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions: 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a getting warmer method? 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location broadcast to everyone else on
Re: So, this Blindsquare thing...
Yes, BlindSquare has feature called Look Around for that. You can select your view radius (25m - 2 km) and then point your device to different directions. You will hear heading, then intersections in that direction (closest first) and then list of what kindof places you find from that direction. For all place announcements BlindSquare can rate what should be read first. Rating is based in multiple factors and I'm not revealing all the intelligence, but using the fact it's based on local people playing a game, it gives lot of factors that can be used. Same algorithms are used when you are walking, so you will hear mentioned only most popular places automatically, ifbyou haven't filted their category out. Many people have told their story how Look Around has saved them when they have been totally lost. Lähetetty iPadista Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 13.7.2013 kello 0.48: What I mean is that it is possible to observe what is arround you and thus to find your way to any place you wish even if you don't know the area. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean about structured discovery? Lähetetty iPhonesta Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11: Me, I'd rather use structured discovery. It's free and let's you go anywhere. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but that's just me. On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Gee wizz. Three apps just to get around? Better just to use a cane or guide dog then right? I mean, three apps just to get around? Ain't that getting just a bit cumbersome? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the default? Original message: 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never go away 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs follow automatically. 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce intersections in high speed also 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer Lähetetty iPadista Alex Hall
