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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-24 Thread Thuy Mallalieu

Hi Gabe. I'm having the same problems as you. The only way to make the onscreen keyboard visible is to use either external keyboard or Braille Display and the space with dots 1 4 6 a couple of times to toggle to onscreen keyboard visible. I was looking in the voiceover commands list to see if I could assign a gesture to make keyboard visible but the only way I could see was through the Braille commands. It was here that I found some strange anomalies. Listed in my Braille devices was my Sony WH1000 headphones. Sure enough the show/hide onscreen keyboard command was there in the list of available commands but nothing assigned to it. I'm wondering whether you may have paired something like those headphones which could be sending some kind of command to voiceover to hide the keyboard? I just removed it from my bluetooth devices and will see if that sorts out the problem. Very annoying as I quite like the sound of those headphones. Quite why they should show up as a Braille device is a bit of a mystery to me though? Let's hope that resolves things.CheersThuyOn 24 Nov 2023, at 04:50, Gabe Griffith wrote:Hi, Sorry if I was confusing. I'm talking about that when I activate the edit field I can type using braille screen input but the onscreen keyboard is often hidden. This causes issues because if I'm in Safari trying to get to a web page for example I can type the web address but since there is no keyboard the go button doesn't show up. If I'm in an app that has some kind of search type button that doesn't appear because the keyboard is hidden. I hope that helps clarify the issue. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:Dave,Confused. Why or where is it necessary to have the on screen keyboard show when there is no active edit field? Not sure I understand.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:34 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:hi, Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active also. This is new behavior. I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
- Brad -

On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson wrote:I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer, Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:Hello all, Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a web site or performing a product search in apps. Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/136C57DE-37AD-40BC-B3C8-A7D695D84AB7%40gmail.com.

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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-23 Thread Gabe Griffith

Hi, Sorry if I was confusing. I'm talking about that when I activate the edit field I can type using braille screen input but the onscreen keyboard is often hidden. This causes issues because if I'm in Safari trying to get to a web page for example I can type the web address but since there is no keyboard the go button doesn't show up. If I'm in an app that has some kind of search type button that doesn't appear because the keyboard is hidden. I hope that helps clarify the issue. Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:Dave,Confused. Why or where is it necessary to have the on screen keyboard show when there is no active edit field? Not sure I understand.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:34 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:hi, Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active also. This is new behavior.  I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.Thanks, Gabe     Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
- Brad -


On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hello all, Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a web site or performing a product search in apps. Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/136C57DE-37AD-40BC-B3C8-A7D695D84AB7%40gmail.com.

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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-23 Thread Dave Carlson

Dave,
Confused. Why or where is it necessary to have the on screen keyboard show when 
there is no active edit field? Not sure I understand.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:34 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

hi, 

Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active 
also. This is new behavior.  I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone 
and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.

Thanks, 


Gabe 


Gabe Griffith 
President, California Council of the Blind 
(925)222-5762
gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org


> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.
> This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field 
>> and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 
>> 14 Pro.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on 
>> screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an 
>> iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille 
>> displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is 
>> occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any 
>> keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the 
>> keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around 
>> it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting 
>> to a web site or performing a product search in apps. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Gabe 
>> 
>> 
>> Gabe Griffith 
>> President, California Council of the Blind 
>> (925)222-5762
>> gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org
>> 
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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-23 Thread Gabe Griffith

hi, Yes, I've always had the keyboard show up whenever an edit field is active also. This is new behavior.  I forgot to mention that I have rebooted my phone and that brings back the keyboard but that seems to only be temporary.Thanks, Gabe     Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.orgOn Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.
- Brad -


On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.
Dave CarlsonWoodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfardgcarlson0...@gmail.com

On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:Hello all, Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or braille displays connected to her phone Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a web site or performing a product search in apps. Thanks, Gabe Gabe Griffith President, California Council of the Blind (925)222-5762gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/136C57DE-37AD-40BC-B3C8-A7D695D84AB7%40gmail.com.

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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-23 Thread Brad Snyder

Try turning off bluetooth on the iPhone.
This should help determine if the issue has to do with a bluetooth device.

- Brad -



> On Nov 23, 2023, at 21:54, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and 
> it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 
> Pro.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen 
> keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 
> thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays 
> connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally 
> having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or 
> braille displays connected to her phone 
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the 
> keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around 
> it when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to 
> a web site or performing a product search in apps. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Gabe 
> 
> 
> Gabe Griffith 
> President, California Council of the Blind 
> (925)222-5762
> gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org
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Re: on screen keyboard

2023-11-23 Thread Dave Carlson

I would think the keyboard should show up whenever there is an edit field and 
it is active. I have not seen this behavior with iOS 17.1.1. Also iPhone 14 Pro.

Dave Carlson
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On Nov 23, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:

Hello all, 

Ever since I updated to iOS 17 I have been having an issue where my on screen 
keboard doesn't show up on my iPhone 14 Pro. I Thought it might be an iOS 17 
thing or have to do with my having a couple of different braille displays 
connected but my fiance just got a new 14 Pro yesterday and is occasionally 
having the same issue and she most definitely doesn't have any keyboards or 
braille displays connected to her phone 

Does anyone have any thoughts on what would cause this and how to get the 
keyboard to show up? I generally use braille screen input so can get around it 
when typing but it makes things quite difficult for things like getting to a 
web site or performing a product search in apps. 

Thanks, 

Gabe 


Gabe Griffith 
President, California Council of the Blind 
(925)222-5762
gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org

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