subject:"Smart refrigerators"

Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-24 Thread lenron brown

I thought there was talk of a fridge that would roll up to you and
offer you a beer or something a bit ago.

On 8/23/18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> What's this paid thing you speak of Janina?
>
>  I don't want to have to pay my slave / servants.
>
> If I have to pay them I may as well find myself a girl friend and get all
> the benefits
>
> Personally that's just over the top.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2018 3:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
>
> Well, Simon, I guess when it comes right down to it, there's nothing like
> personalized human assistance--especially if they're paid well enough so you
> can get away with being grumpy sometimes! 
>
> Frankly, and in all candor, I'm not convinced that the self-service world we
> is much of an improvement.I prefer humans to apps for many things. But, come
> to think of it, not all things. I guess my screen reader does a better job
> of reading my mail.
>
> So, there I go, ambivalent again!
>
> Janina
>
> Simon Fogarty writes:
>> Actually Janina,
>>
>> The first one was a trick,
>>
>> I'm gluten free so I can't drink beer.
>>
>>  But cyder is an option,
>> But no it's still not good enough,
>>
>> I'll have to find myself a small servant person to do everything I don't
>> want to do.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:58 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
>>
>> Simon Fogarty writes:
>> > Hang on,
>> >
>> >  A smart refrigerator?
>> >
>> >  Really?
>> >
>> >  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
>> >
>> No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands and
>> some kind of tool to perform.
>> >  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook
>> > it?
>> >
>> Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is
>> the idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
>> date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.
>>
>> > And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red
>> > wine in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
>> >
>>
>> Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this
>> will come in version 2.0
>>
>> > If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
>> >
>>
>> So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>> > 
>> > Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
>> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> > Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
>> >
>> > Hi, Sarai:
>> >
>> > I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's
>> > Accessibility Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report
>> > they demonstrated their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I
>> > haven, however, not personally tried to use the app.
>> >
>> > Janina
>> >
>> > Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
>> > > Hi all:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have
>> > > one? Are the apps accessible?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Sarai D Bucciarelli
>> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
>> > > www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>> > >
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-23 Thread Simon Fogarty

What's this paid thing you speak of Janina?

 I don't want to have to pay my slave / servants.

If I have to pay them I may as well find myself a girl friend and get all the 
benefits 

Personally that's just over the top.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2018 3:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

Well, Simon, I guess when it comes right down to it, there's nothing like 
personalized human assistance--especially if they're paid well enough so you 
can get away with being grumpy sometimes! 

Frankly, and in all candor, I'm not convinced that the self-service world we is 
much of an improvement.I prefer humans to apps for many things. But, come to 
think of it, not all things. I guess my screen reader does a better job of 
reading my mail.

So, there I go, ambivalent again!

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Actually Janina,
> 
> The first one was a trick,
> 
> I'm gluten free so I can't drink beer.
> 
>  But cyder is an option,
> But no it's still not good enough,
> 
> I'll have to find myself a small servant person to do everything I don't want 
> to do.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hang on,
> > 
> >  A smart refrigerator?
> > 
> >  Really?
> > 
> >  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> > 
> No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands and 
> some kind of tool to perform. 
> >  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> > 
> Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is the 
> idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
> date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.
> 
> > And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red 
> > wine in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> > 
> 
> Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this 
> will come in version 2.0
> 
> > If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> > 
> 
> So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?
> 
> Janina
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> > 
> > Hi, Sarai:
> > 
> > I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> > Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they 
> > demonstrated their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, 
> > however, not personally tried to use the app.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> > > Hi all:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > > one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Sarai D Bucciarelli  
> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
> > > www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> > > 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-22 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Well, Simon, I guess when it comes right down to it, there's nothing
like personalized human assistance--especially if they're paid well
enough so you can get away with being grumpy sometimes! 

Frankly, and in all candor, I'm not convinced that the self-service
world we is much of an improvement.I prefer humans to apps for many
things. But, come to think of it, not all things. I guess my screen
reader does a better job of reading my mail.

So, there I go, ambivalent again!

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Actually Janina,
> 
> The first one was a trick,
> 
> I'm gluten free so I can't drink beer.
> 
>  But cyder is an option,
> But no it's still not good enough,
> 
> I'll have to find myself a small servant person to do everything I don't want 
> to do.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hang on,
> > 
> >  A smart refrigerator?
> > 
> >  Really?
> > 
> >  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> > 
> No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands and 
> some kind of tool to perform. 
> >  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> > 
> Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is the 
> idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
> date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.
> 
> > And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red 
> > wine in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> > 
> 
> Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this will 
> come in version 2.0
> 
> > If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> > 
> 
> So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?
> 
> Janina
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> > 
> > Hi, Sarai:
> > 
> > I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> > Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they 
> > demonstrated their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, 
> > however, not personally tried to use the app.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> > > Hi all:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > > one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Sarai D Bucciarelli  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
> > > www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> > > 
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-22 Thread Simon Fogarty

Actually Janina,

The first one was a trick,

I'm gluten free so I can't drink beer.

 But cyder is an option,
But no it's still not good enough,

I'll have to find myself a small servant person to do everything I don't want 
to do.
-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hang on,
> 
>  A smart refrigerator?
> 
>  Really?
> 
>  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> 
No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands and some 
kind of tool to perform. 
>  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> 
Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is the 
idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.

> And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
> in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> 

Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this will come 
in version 2.0

> If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> 

So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?

Janina

> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Hi, Sarai:
> 
> I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
> their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
> personally tried to use the app.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > one? Are the apps accessible?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sarai D Bucciarelli  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
> > www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> > 
> >  
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-20 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Personally, I would look for two things ...

1.) An accessible app

2.) A published accessibility policy from the manufacturer on their
web site. Because, if the company isn't committed to make their products
accessible, the app you can use today will likely become the app you
can't use on some upgrade in the future.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
> I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
> I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
> But i have to test the app with it first.
> /A
> 
> > 17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any 
> > reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I 
> > believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance 
> > companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.
> > 
> > I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in 
> > tidbits.com  which sounded quiet intriguing
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > 
> > Jonathan .
> >> On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
> >> mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi all:
> >>  
> >> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have one? 
> >> Are the apps accessible? 
> >>  
> >> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> >> 
> >>  
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-20 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hang on,
> 
>  A smart refrigerator?
> 
>  Really?
> 
>  Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> 
No. No little robots hanging around performing tasks we use our hands
and some kind of tool to perform. 
>  Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> 
Yes. If the expiration date is tagged in machine readable form, which is
the idea, then yes. Note that it can only tell you the chicken "use by"
date has passed. You still have to do the tossing yourself.

> And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
> in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> 

Yes, I can see this use case being met as well, though I expect this
will come in version 2.0

> If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> 

So, how do you feel about 2 out of 3?

Janina

> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Hi, Sarai:
> 
> I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
> their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
> personally tried to use the app.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> > Hi all:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > one? Are the apps accessible?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sarai D Bucciarelli  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
> > www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> > 
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen

I see...that is interesting.
Granted mine does not produce ice or water via the door.
Still all the other settings, containers for storage, over all settings, 
etc., are all manual and perfectly tactile.
 Interesting to  discover some companies believe people are not capable of 
managing  such things laughs.

Kare

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi:
Well the smart fridges supposedly let you set temperatures and other seting. 
Unfortunatley, not ice settings though. They also give filter changing 
reminders.
My fridge shoping was not fun. All fridges, smart or not, are nothing but touch 
pannels. Sucks when you want to change ice/water settings.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:04 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

What happened to the request not to post one liners?
further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for
information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.
Kare

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

  Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.

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On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second,
 the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
 I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work from
 a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
 Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a
 fridge...which is why I asked.

 Kare

 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

   Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access
 to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the
 smart fridge?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?

 On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

  ahem,
  May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
  I mean its a fridge...so?

  On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

  Hi,

  The related app is the way that many of these smart items become

  somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi

 thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted
 help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually
 proceed normally from >  there.

  Later...
  Tim Kilburn

  Apple Teacher
  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada

  On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg

  >  wrote:

  Hi!

  I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
  I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
  I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
  But i have to test the app with it first.
  /A

  17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn

  >  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:

  Hello,
  I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor

 have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations.
 Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are
 plugged in at the > >  showrooms of appliance companies so you should
 have a good chance of > >  trying it out.

  I also recently read a review of  remote control

 thermometers in > >  tidbits.com <http://tidbits.com/> which sounded
 quiet intriguing

  Best Wishes,
  Jonathan .

  On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > >

 mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> >

  wrote:

  Hi all:
  My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges.

 Anyone have > > >  one? Are the apps accessible?

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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen


In what way?
Frankly I am concerned as to your own replies...not on point whatsoever.



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:


  You poor thing. (shakes head)

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On 8/19/2018 1:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 What happened to the request not to post one liners?
 further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for
 information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.
 Kare



 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>    Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...

>    ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  Many believe that we have been visited
>  in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>  On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >   Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and 
> >  second,

> >   the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
> >   I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you 
> >  work from
> >   a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, 
> >  dictionary.
> >   Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for 
> >  a

> >   fridge...which is why I asked.
> > 
> >   Kare
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > 
> > >     Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more 
> >  access >  to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. 
> >  Why not the >  smart fridge?

> > > >   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > >     ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > >   Many believe that we have been visited
> > >   in the past. What if it were true?
> > > >   On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > >    ahem,
> > > >    May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
> > > >    I mean its a fridge...so?
> > > > > > > > > >    On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via 
> >  MacVisionaries wrote:

> > > > > > >    Hi,
> > > > > >    The related app is the way that many of these smart items 
> >  become > > >   somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, 
> >  WiFi > >  thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit 
> >  of sighted > >  help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO 
> >  users can usually > >  proceed normally from >  there.

> > > > > >    Later...
> > > > > >    Tim Kilburn
> > > > >    Apple Teacher
> > > > >    (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> > > > >    Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> > > > > >    On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg > > 
> >   >  wrote:

> > > > > >    Hi!
> > > > >    I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
> > > > >    I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
> > > > >    I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from 
> > > > >  S.M.A.R.T.

> > > > >    But i have to test the app with it first.
> > > > >    /A
> > > > > > >    17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn > > 
> >   >  >:

> > > > > > > >    Hello,
> > > > > > > >    I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in 
> > > > > > > >  action 
> >  nor > >  have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness 
> >  organizations. > >  Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe 
> >  most refrigerators are > >  plugged in at the > >  showrooms of 
> >  appliance companies so you should > >  have a good chance of > > 
> >  trying it out.
> > > > > > > >    I also recently read a review of  remote control > > 
> >  thermometers in > >  tidbits.com  which sounded 
> > > >   quiet intriguing

> > > > > > > >    Best Wishes,
> > > > > > > >    Jonathan .
> > > > > > >    On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > > > > 
> >  mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > 
> > > > > >    wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >    Hi all:
> > > > > > > > > >    My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart 
> >  fridges. > >  Anyone have > > >  one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > > > > > > > >    Sarai D Bucciarelli > > 
> >  www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli > > > > > 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread David Chittenden

This is early days of smart fridges. They are working on developing the ability 
for the fridge to detect and report when products are no longer in the fridge. 
For example, if one adds eggs to the always have category, when the egg carton 
is taken out and not replaced, eggs are added automatically to the shopping 
list. And, the fridge that has an egg tray, it will keep track of how many eggs 
are still in the fridge.

Initially, this scanning is expected to be in the door shelves because this is 
a smaller area to monitor.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Aug 2018, at 08:00, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> Well the smart fridges supposedly let you set temperatures and other seting. 
> Unfortunatley, not ice settings though. They also give filter changing 
> reminders.
> My fridge shoping was not fun. All fridges, smart or not, are nothing but 
> touch pannels. Sucks when you want to change ice/water settings.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:04 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators
> 
> What happened to the request not to post one liners?
> further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for 
> information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>  Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second,
>>> the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
>>> I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work from
>>> a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
>>> Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a
>>> fridge...which is why I asked.
>>> 
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access 
>>>> to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the 
>>>> smart fridge?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>  ahem,
>>>>>  May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
>>>>>  I mean its a fridge...so?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>  The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
>>>>>>  somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi 
>>>>> thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted 
>>>>> help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually 
>>>>> proceed normally from >  there.
>>>>>>>  Later...
>>>>>>>  Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>  Apple Teacher
>>>>>>  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>  Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>  On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg 
>>>>>  >  wrote:
>>>>>>>  Hi!
>>>>>>  I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
>>>>>>  I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
>>>>>>  I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
>>>>>>  But i have to test the app with it first.
>>>>>>  /A
>>>>>>>>  17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn 
>>>>>  >  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>>>>  I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor 
>>>>> have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. 
>>

RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

Hi:
Well the smart fridges supposedly let you set temperatures and other seting. 
Unfortunatley, not ice settings though. They also give filter changing 
reminders.
My fridge shoping was not fun. All fridges, smart or not, are nothing but touch 
pannels. Sucks when you want to change ice/water settings.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 3:04 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

What happened to the request not to post one liners?
further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for 
information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.
Kare



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>   Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second,
>>  the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
>>  I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work from
>>  a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
>>  Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a
>>  fridge...which is why I asked.
>>
>>  Kare
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>> >Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access 
>> >  to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the 
>> >  smart fridge?
>> > 
>> >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> >ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> >  Many believe that we have been visited
>> >  in the past. What if it were true?
>> > 
>> >  On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > >   ahem,
>> > >   May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
>> > >   I mean its a fridge...so?
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >   Hi,
>> > > > >   The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
>> > > >   somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi 
>> > >  thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted 
>> > >  help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually 
>> > >  proceed normally from >  there.
>> > > > >   Later...
>> > > > >   Tim Kilburn
>> > > >   Apple Teacher
>> > > >   (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> > > >   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> > > > >   On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg 
>> > >   >  wrote:
>> > > > >   Hi!
>> > > >   I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
>> > > >   I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
>> > > >   I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
>> > > >   But i have to test the app with it first.
>> > > >   /A
>> > > > > >   17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn 
>> > >   >  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:
>> > > > > > >   Hello,
>> > > > > > >   I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor 
>> > >  have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. 
>> > >  Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are 
>> > >  plugged in at the > >  showrooms of appliance companies so you should 
>> > >  have a good chance of > >  trying it out.
>> > > > > > >   I also recently read a review of  remote control 
>> > >  thermometers in > >  tidbits.com <http://tidbits.com/> which sounded 
>> > >  quiet intriguing
>> > > > > > >   Best Wishes,
>> > > > > > >   Jonathan .
>> > > > > >   On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > > 
>> > >  mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > 
>> > > > >   wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >   Hi all:
>> > > > > > > > >   My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. 
>> > >  Anyone have >

Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   You poor thing. (shakes head)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 8/19/2018 1:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

What happened to the request not to post one liners?
further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for 
information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.

Kare



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:


  Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second,
 the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
 I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work 
from

 a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
 Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a
 fridge...which is why I asked.

 Kare



 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>    Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more 
access >  to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. 
Why not the >  smart fridge?

> >  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>    ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>  Many believe that we have been visited
>  in the past. What if it were true?
> >  On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >   ahem,
> >   May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
> >   I mean its a fridge...so?
> > > > > > > >   On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via 
MacVisionaries wrote:

> > > > >   Hi,
> > > >   The related app is the way that many of these smart items 
become > > >   somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, 
WiFi > >  thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit 
of sighted > >  help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO 
users can usually > >  proceed normally from >  there.

> > > >   Later...
> > > >   Tim Kilburn
> > >   Apple Teacher
> > >   (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> > >   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> > > >   On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg > >  
 >  wrote:

> > > >   Hi!
> > >   I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
> > >   I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
> > >   I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
> > >   But i have to test the app with it first.
> > >   /A
> > > > >   17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >  
 >  >:

> > > > > >   Hello,
> > > > > >   I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action 
nor > >  have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness 
organizations. > >  Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe 
most refrigerators are > >  plugged in at the > >  showrooms of 
appliance companies so you should > >  have a good chance of > >  
trying it out.
> > > > > >   I also recently read a review of  remote control > >  
thermometers in > >  tidbits.com  which sounded 
> >  quiet intriguing

> > > > > >   Best Wishes,
> > > > > >   Jonathan .
> > > > >   On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > > > >  
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > 
> > > >   wrote:

> > > > > > > >   Hi all:
> > > > > > > >   My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart 
fridges. > >  Anyone have > > >  one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > > > > > >   Sarai D Bucciarelli > >  
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli > > > > >  

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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen


What happened to the request not to post one liners?
further, who  is Charlie?  If you are referencing Brown, my request for 
information, still not honored, is a Linus sort of thing.

Kare



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:


  Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.

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On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second,
 the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
 I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work from
 a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
 Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a
 fridge...which is why I asked.

 Kare



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>    Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access 
>  to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the 
>  smart fridge?
> 
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>  On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> >   ahem,
> >   May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
> >   I mean its a fridge...so?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> > 
> > >   Hi,
> > > >   The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
> > >   somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi 
> >  thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted 
> >  help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually 
> >  proceed normally from >  there.

> > > >   Later...
> > > >   Tim Kilburn
> > >   Apple Teacher
> > >   (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> > >   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> > > >   On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg 
> >   >  wrote:

> > > >   Hi!
> > >   I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
> > >   I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
> > >   I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
> > >   But i have to test the app with it first.
> > >   /A
> > > > >   17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn 
> >   >  >:

> > > > > >   Hello,
> > > > > >   I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor 
> >  have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. 
> >  Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are 
> >  plugged in at the > >  showrooms of appliance companies so you should 
> >  have a good chance of > >  trying it out.
> > > > > >   I also recently read a review of  remote control 
> >  thermometers in > >  tidbits.com  which sounded 
> >  quiet intriguing

> > > > > >   Best Wishes,
> > > > > >   Jonathan .
> > > > >   On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > > 
> >  mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > 
> > > >   wrote:

> > > > > > > >   Hi all:
> > > > > > > >   My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. 
> >  Anyone have > > >  one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > > > > > >   Sarai D Bucciarelli 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   Good grief Charlie give it a rest already.

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On 8/19/2018 12:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second, 
the question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work 
from a generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a 
fridge...which is why I asked.


Kare



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

  Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access 
to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the 
smart fridge?


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On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 ahem,
 May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
 I mean its a fridge...so?



 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>  Hi,
> >  The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
>  somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi 
thermostats >  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted 
help to set up, >  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually 
proceed normally from >  there.

> >  Later...
> >  Tim Kilburn
>  Apple Teacher
>  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>  Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >  On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg 
 >  wrote:

> >  Hi!
>  I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
>  I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
>  I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
>  But i have to test the app with it first.
>  /A
> > >  17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn 
 >  >:

> > > >  Hello,
> > > >  I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor 
have I > >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. 
Generally though > >  unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are 
plugged in at the > >  showrooms of appliance companies so you should 
have a good chance of > >  trying it out.
> > > >  I also recently read a review of  remote control 
thermometers in > >  tidbits.com  which sounded 
quiet intriguing

> > > >  Best Wishes,
> > > >  Jonathan .
> > >  On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > >  
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> > 
> >  wrote:

> > > > > >  Hi all:
> > > > > >  My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. 
Anyone have > > >  one? Are the apps accessible?
> > > > > >  Sarai D Bucciarelli 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen

Perhaps first because there is no generalized "the blind.  and second, the 
question is what the device does that is actually well needful?
I am not being provocative, just interested.  Especially as you work from a 
generalized, everyone sharing a label benefits equally, dictionary.
Speaking for myself, I cannot think of a function comparative  for a 
fridge...which is why I asked.


Kare



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

  Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access to 
many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the smart 
fridge?


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On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 ahem,
 May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
 I mean its a fridge...so?



 On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>  Hi,
> 
>  The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
>  somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi thermostats 
>  etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted help to set up, 
>  but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually proceed normally from 
>  there.
> 
>  Later...
> 
>  Tim Kilburn

>  Apple Teacher
>  (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>  Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>  On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi!

>  I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
>  I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
>  I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
>  But i have to test the app with it first.
>  /A
> 
> >  17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn > >  >:
> > 
> >  Hello,
> > 
> >  I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I 
> >  seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though 
> >  unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the 
> >  showrooms of appliance companies so you should have a good chance of 
> >  trying it out.
> > 
> >  I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in 
> >  tidbits.com  which sounded quiet intriguing
> > 
> >  Best Wishes,
> > 
> >  Jonathan .
> > >  On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
> > >  mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hi all:
> > > 
> > >  My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> > >  one? Are the apps accessible?
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   Think about it some. The smart phone has given the blind more access 
to many things, as has the smart TV, the smart thermostat. Why not the 
smart fridge?


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On 8/19/2018 11:41 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

ahem,
May I ask what role a smart refrigerator  serves?
I mean its a fridge...so?



On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

The related app is the way that many of these smart items become 
somewhat accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi thermostats 
etc, the device itself often requires a bit of sighted help to set up, 
but if the app is accessible, VO users can usually proceed normally 
from there.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
But i have to test the app with it first.
/A

17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn >:


Hello,

I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I 
seen any reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though 
unlike stoves, I believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the 
showrooms of appliance companies so you should have a good chance of 
trying it out.


I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in 
tidbits.com  which sounded quiet intriguing


Best Wishes,

Jonathan .
On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Hi all:

My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
one? Are the apps accessible?


Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 




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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Karen Lewellen

ahem,
May I ask what role a smart refrigerator serves?
I mean its a fridge...so?

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

The related app is the way that many of these smart items become somewhat
accessible. Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi thermostats etc, the device
itself often requires a bit of sighted help to set up, but if the app is
accessible, VO users can usually proceed normally from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
I don???t have a smart refridgirator though.
I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
But i have to test the app with it first.
/A

17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>>:

Hello,

I can???t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any
reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I
believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance
companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.

I also recently read a review of remote control thermometers in tidbits.com
which sounded quiet intriguing

Best Wishes,

Jonathan .

On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have one? Are the
apps accessible?

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

The related app is the way that many of these smart items become somewhat 
accessible.  Smart scales, smart appliances, WiFi thermostats etc, the device 
itself often requires a bit of sighted help to set up, but if the app is 
accessible, VO users can usually proceed normally from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:25, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
But i have to test the app with it first.
/A

> 17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn  >:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any 
> reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I 
> believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance 
> companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.
> 
> I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in tidbits.com 
>  which sounded quiet intriguing
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan .
>> On Aug 17, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>>  
>> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have one? Are 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
I think at least some of these have an app related to it.
I don’t have a smart refridgirator though.
I was thinking of bying a smart coffee machine from S.M.A.R.T.
But i have to test the app with it first.
/A

> 17 aug. 2018 kl. 19:34 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any 
> reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I 
> believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance 
> companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.
> 
> I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in tidbits.com 
>  which sounded quiet intriguing
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan .
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
And use punctuations if you know what that is.
/A

> 17 aug. 2018 kl. 17:32 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 8/17/2018 8:20 AM, Pavel Yefetov wrote:
>> no
>> пятница, 17 августа 2018 г., 14:46:50 UTC+3 пользователь Sarai Bucciarelli 
>> написал:
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-19 Thread Jonathan Cohn

A mini door where you can grab a soda or beer without opening the main door is 
my understanding of the grab and go. I believe the insulation is not as good 
when you have one of these doors. But then my Fridge doesn't even have a water 
dispenser. I am so third world. What we really need is a fridge that comes with 
an R2D2 like unit and brings us cold drinks every 60 minutes no matter where in 
the house we are. 

Happy Sunday Everybody!
So please excuse the sarcasm. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 18, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'll ask.
> 
> What's a grab and go door?
> 
> Is that like grand theft larsenie  for a fridge or what?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart refrigerators
> 
> With the price of them, it better do all the above.
> All fridges are stupid touch screens. Bought the lesser of two evils.
> Did get one of the Kenmores with the grab-and-go doors.
> 
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> To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: RE: Smart refrigerators
> 
> Hang on,
> 
> A smart refrigerator?
> 
> Really?
> 
> Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?
> 
> Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?
> 
> And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
> in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?
> 
> If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Hi, Sarai:
> 
> I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
> Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
> their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
> personally tried to use the app.
> 
> Janina
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>> 
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty

Ok, I'll ask.

What's a grab and go door?

 Is that like grand theft larsenie  for a fridge or what?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart refrigerators

With the price of them, it better do all the above.
All fridges are stupid touch screens. Bought the lesser of two evils.
Did get one of the Kenmores with the grab-and-go doors.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:37 PM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Smart refrigerators

Hang on,

 A smart refrigerator?

 Really?

 Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?

 Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?

And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?

If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

Hi, Sarai:

I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
personally tried to use the app.

Janina

Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> Hi all:
> 
>  
> 
> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
> one? Are the apps accessible?
> 
>  
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> Sarai D Bucciarelli  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli>
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

With the price of them, it better do all the above.
All fridges are stupid touch screens. Bought the lesser of two evils.
Did get one of the Kenmores with the grab-and-go doors.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:37 PM
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Smart refrigerators

Hang on,

 A smart refrigerator?

 Really?

 Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?

 Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?

And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?

If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

Hi, Sarai:

I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
personally tried to use the app.

Janina

Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
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> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
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RE: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hang on,

 A smart refrigerator?

 Really?

 Does it open the beer bottle before it hands it to you?

 Will it know when to thor out my frozen chicken before I go to cook it?

And the really important question, will it know if I put a bottle of red wine 
in the fridge that it should only be kept at room temp?

If it can't do those things then its not smart enough for me.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart refrigerators

Hi, Sarai:

I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's Accessibility 
Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report they demonstrated 
their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I haven, however, not 
personally tried to use the app.

Janina

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> My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have 
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-18 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Hi, Sarai:

I have no personal experience. However, I have been on LG's
Accessibility Acvisory Committee for quite a few years, and I can report
they demonstrated their smart refridgerator to one of our meetings. I
haven, however, not personally tried to use the app.

Janina

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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn

Hello,

I can’t say I have seen a smart refrigerator in action nor have I seen any 
reviews from any blindness organizations. Generally though unlike stoves, I 
believe most refrigerators are plugged in at the showrooms of appliance 
companies so you should have a good chance of trying it out.

I also recently read a review of  remote control thermometers in tidbits.com 
 which sounded quiet intriguing

Best Wishes,

Jonathan .
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-17 Thread Phil Halton

Could you back up that “no“ with a little more substance? I’m kind of 
interested in this to end a one-word answer is not believable. For example what 
is your experience with them, why do you say no and so forth. Thanks, it would 
be a lot more helpful if you gave us a little more than just two letters strung 
together.

Sent from my IPhone


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>> no
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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   Pavel can you stop sending one liners?

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On 8/17/2018 8:20 AM, Pavel Yefetov wrote:

no

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Re: Smart refrigerators

2018-08-17 Thread Pavel Yefetov

no 

пятница, 17 августа 2018 г., 14:46:50 UTC+3 пользователь Sarai Bucciarelli 
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Smart refrigerators

2018-08-17 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

Hi all:

 

My fridge crashed. I was looking at the smart fridges. Anyone have one? Are
the apps accessible? 

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli  
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 

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