RE: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
Dam, I wish had seen this msg yesterday when I was hunting for the call end button. I've gotta find a good iphone accessibility tutorial. Has anyone got one on line that I missed the posting alert of, that they can point me towards Thanks simon From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 6:16 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS I found that my double-tap wasn't very accurate. I often ended up double tapping a nearby key or tapping once on one key and the second on another key. The 'split tap' seemed to work much better. Another thing that has worked well is the flick left and right through elements on the screen. For example, in Safari to the right of the URL entry is a very small clear button. It was hard to impossible to tap it to clear out the URL and type in a new one. With focus in the URL field a single flick right brought focus to the clear button and then a double-tap would clear out the entry field. Much easier that way. Oh, one other gesture I didn't know about initially. Doing a two-finger double tap when the phone rings will answer it while a two-finger double tap during a call will hang up. Much easier that trying to hunt for the answer and end call buttons. CB william lomas wrote: a friend of mine said he can find a key and tap it twice once he has found it to insert it On 20 Jul 2009, at 22:44, Ryan Mann wrote: Is your typing slower on the Iphone than on the mac? It seems like it would be since you're just using two fingers. On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
Umm, yes, much slower on the iPhone. On the mac I have a full-size keyboard with no need to double tap or anything. Not sure that means much though. CB Ryan Mann wrote: Is your typing slower on the Iphone than on the mac? It seems like it would be since you're just using two fingers. On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
I found that my double-tap wasn't very accurate. I often ended up double tapping a nearby key or tapping once on one key and the second on another key. The 'split tap' seemed to work much better. Another thing that has worked well is the flick left and right through elements on the screen. For example, in Safari to the right of the URL entry is a very small clear button. It was hard to impossible to tap it to clear out the URL and type in a new one. With focus in the URL field a single flick right brought focus to the clear button and then a double-tap would clear out the entry field. Much easier that way. Oh, one other gesture I didn't know about initially. Doing a two-finger double tap when the phone rings will answer it while a two-finger double tap during a call will hang up. Much easier that trying to hunt for the answer and end call buttons. CB william lomas wrote: a friend of mine said he can find a key and tap it twice once he has found it to insert it On 20 Jul 2009, at 22:44, Ryan Mann wrote: Is your typing slower on the Iphone than on the mac? It seems like it would be since you're just using two fingers. On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
a friend of mine said he can find a key and tap it twice once he has found it to insert it On 20 Jul 2009, at 22:44, Ryan Mann wrote: Is your typing slower on the Iphone than on the mac? It seems like it would be since you're just using two fingers. On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
Is your typing slower on the Iphone than on the mac? It seems like it would be since you're just using two fingers. On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I've heard that once people get good at it you hold a key on the left side of the virtual keyboard and tap with a finger on the right hand or vice versa. For now I end up hunting with one finger and tapping with another for every key. Like VO on the Mac I'm finding many iPhone apps are fairly accessible out of the box but with unlabeled buttons or form fields here and there. Pleasantly surprising since many of the apps predate VO on the iPhone. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
I haven't tried the gps but the typing feature got me for a start. You move / put one finger on the character you want and then tap the screen with another and the character is typed to the screen. I found it really easy after got the fingers working together. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Nash Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:28 a.m. To: Mac visionaries Subject: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS
Might be worth you taking a read of the thread entitled iPhone accessibility James. There's been 19 messages in the last day or so all around these same questions. There's also been more than a few podcasts and demos and suchlike, might be worth having a quick poke in the list archives for those or subscribing to an actual iPhone access list to keep on top of new ones. hth On 7/18/09, James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
