Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
That link didn't work for me. Did you mean http://www.smartco.org/ If so, I couldn't find any monitors or prices on the site. CB Jude DaShiell wrote: http://www.smartco-inc.org/ has many cheap used VGA displays available. Buyer is responsible for packaging and shipping costs though. On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Chris Blouch wrote: I had written up a lot of detail on this some time back which you can find in the mail archives. Short version is that in the most recent minis they now bog down unless a monitor is detected. The cheap fix used to be to get a mini to NTSC/PAL adaptor which made the mini think it was hooked up to something, but the analog stuff has been dropped from the modern minis. I was able to work around this by getting a DVI-VGA adapter and a VGA-NTSC adapter. Worked out well since we did want it hooked up to the TV anyway so the kids can get their Elmo fix. The detect is actually done by sending signals down certain pins and getting something back on other pins. With nothing hooked up this detection fails and weird stuff starts happening. A cheap used VGA display is probably the cheapest solution. They used to sell VGA terminators but every place I found on the web had them discontinued. There are tutorials out there on how to make your own if you know somebody who is good with a soldering iron. I think these might be the right things for $33, which is really steep for what should be a $5 plug. CB Simon F wrote: No one is ever forced to purchase something they don't need. Purchasing something you didn't need is a personal choice. If you purchased a mac mini and then needed a screen / monitor for it, think about who actually made you get the mini, you could have got a mac book or I mac. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 6:50 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Please, spare us this! While I think it would be nice if the mini worked without a monitor, please, don't give us this stuff about being forced to buy something you don't need. Personally, I have a vary old monitor which I keep around just in case I get in to trouble where sighted assistance is necessary. I am sure that most of us who came from windows know that does happen from time to time to even the best of us. So, even though I have never yet had a problem on the mac where sighted assistance was definitely necessary, I have learned that having a vary inexpensive monitor around is a good idea regardless. You can buy a used 1 for $50 or less, especially an old 15 inch LCD or something like that. On my mini, I have found that any old monitor would solve the problem and didn't even have to be turned on. So, I hope we don't go off on the whole needing a monitor thing, because, it's really trivial! On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
http://www.smartco-inc.org/ has many cheap used VGA displays available. Buyer is responsible for packaging and shipping costs though. On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Chris Blouch wrote: I had written up a lot of detail on this some time back which you can find in the mail archives. Short version is that in the most recent minis they now bog down unless a monitor is detected. The cheap fix used to be to get a mini to NTSC/PAL adaptor which made the mini think it was hooked up to something, but the analog stuff has been dropped from the modern minis. I was able to work around this by getting a DVI-VGA adapter and a VGA-NTSC adapter. Worked out well since we did want it hooked up to the TV anyway so the kids can get their Elmo fix. The detect is actually done by sending signals down certain pins and getting something back on other pins. With nothing hooked up this detection fails and weird stuff starts happening. A cheap used VGA display is probably the cheapest solution. They used to sell VGA terminators but every place I found on the web had them discontinued. There are tutorials out there on how to make your own if you know somebody who is good with a soldering iron. I think these might be the right things for $33, which is really steep for what should be a $5 plug. CB Simon F wrote: No one is ever forced to purchase something they don't need. Purchasing something you didn't need is a personal choice. If you purchased a mac mini and then needed a screen / monitor for it, think about who actually made you get the mini, you could have got a mac book or I mac. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 6:50 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Please, spare us this! While I think it would be nice if the mini worked without a monitor, please, don't give us this stuff about being forced to buy something you don't need. Personally, I have a vary old monitor which I keep around just in case I get in to trouble where sighted assistance is necessary. I am sure that most of us who came from windows know that does happen from time to time to even the best of us. So, even though I have never yet had a problem on the mac where sighted assistance was definitely necessary, I have learned that having a vary inexpensive monitor around is a good idea regardless. You can buy a used 1 for $50 or less, especially an old 15 inch LCD or something like that. On my mini, I have found that any old monitor would solve the problem and didn't even have to be turned on. So, I hope we don't go off on the whole needing a monitor thing, because, it's really trivial! On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
No one is ever forced to purchase something they don't need. Purchasing something you didn't need is a personal choice. If you purchased a mac mini and then needed a screen / monitor for it, think about who actually made you get the mini, you could have got a mac book or I mac. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2010 6:50 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Please, spare us this! While I think it would be nice if the mini worked without a monitor, please, don't give us this stuff about being forced to buy something you don't need. Personally, I have a vary old monitor which I keep around just in case I get in to trouble where sighted assistance is necessary. I am sure that most of us who came from windows know that does happen from time to time to even the best of us. So, even though I have never yet had a problem on the mac where sighted assistance was definitely necessary, I have learned that having a vary inexpensive monitor around is a good idea regardless. You can buy a used 1 for $50 or less, especially an old 15 inch LCD or something like that. On my mini, I have found that any old monitor would solve the problem and didn't even have to be turned on. So, I hope we don't go off on the whole needing a monitor thing, because, it's really trivial! On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Please, spare us this! While I think it would be nice if the mini worked without a monitor, please, don't give us this stuff about being forced to buy something you don't need. Personally, I have a vary old monitor which I keep around just in case I get in to trouble where sighted assistance is necessary. I am sure that most of us who came from windows know that does happen from time to time to even the best of us. So, even though I have never yet had a problem on the mac where sighted assistance was definitely necessary, I have learned that having a vary inexpensive monitor around is a good idea regardless. You can buy a used 1 for $50 or less, especially an old 15 inch LCD or something like that. On my mini, I have found that any old monitor would solve the problem and didn't even have to be turned on. So, I hope we don't go off on the whole needing a monitor thing, because, it's really trivial! On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
This is a great explanation, but, how come it works even if the monitor is turned off. Since there's no signal, I am not sure why it still thinks there is!! On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
It just doesn't. All new displays (displayport, DVI, HDMI) somehow are able to report their supported resolutions to the computer, even when they don't have mains power. Don't know how it works electronically, but it does. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Roy Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor This is a great explanation, but, how come it works even if the monitor is turned off. Since there's no signal, I am not sure why it still thinks there is!! On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Ha ha! good man, so getting back on topic and away from my personal life (grin), you gonna buy one? On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:34, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
To be honest, I want a macbook first. I just got this mini last month and felt guilty for it then. I think having another Mac mini for use with the television would be a great idea though. I have a friend who uses his own computers as a direct TV receiver and the mini might be an option for that as well. Eventually you could save the cost of the mini doing this. Kev On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Ha ha! good man, so getting back on topic and away from my personal life (grin), you gonna buy one? On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:34, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
Was Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor now remote
On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Snip... Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. Any iThing can remotely control an iTunes library which is what the Apple tv is. It is rumored that Apple will be releasing a new Apple tv shortly and for less cost. I sure hope this is the truth for I need to buy two of them to continue the way we watch tv in my house. Currently I have an airport express the remote app on the iPhone and iTunes running on the mini and it's awesome connected up to my 1962 Eico st-40. The sound of tube amplification is so wonderful when it's done right. Search the app store for remote. When you find the free one from Apple, install it and enjoy. --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Was Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor now remote
Thanks for that, but what I was meaning I am unable to use my cable box now as i can no longer read the on screen menus which control TV on demand and the EPG etc. I have a Virgin V+ box with 160GB hard drive installed. It would be useful if Virgin would update their software to enable the user interface to have Text to Speech, but I can't see it happening. So a good compromise would be to enable the iPhone to log into my Virgin account and access the cable box remotely enabling voice over to control the cable box. On 28 Jun 2010, at 1 If Apple update their Apple TV box, I would hope to find some actual TV features that enable hard disk recording and access to a digital TV guide. On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Snip... Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. Any iThing can remotely control an iTunes library which is what the Apple tv is. It is rumored that Apple will be releasing a new Apple tv shortly and for less cost. I sure hope this is the truth for I need to buy two of them to continue the way we watch tv in my house. Currently I have an airport express the remote app on the iPhone and iTunes running on the mini and it's awesome connected up to my 1962 Eico st-40. The sound of tube amplification is so wonderful when it's done right. Search the app store for remote. When you find the free one from Apple, install it and enjoy. --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, My mini is one of the newer ones, purchased it last June. It is the one where I have the monitor connected and the mini works fine. The monitor is not plugged in to AC power. On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:07:46 -0400 Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
This doesn't exactly involve the video driver. The driver for your video card is fine. It just can't find an attached monitor, so can't report to OS X what display resolutions are available on it. I don't think that a dummy driver is likely. On the Mac, you don't select video drivers. If your card is supported, the OS uses it, if not, well it doesn't. The driver for the card detects the monitor. I don't even know how Apple would go about allowing you to select some custom driver. They go out of their way to prevent people from having to select and/or manage drivers. So, making any change like that wouldn't be a simple fix. They'd have to add some new screens and options to the Display preferences, probably, and that can't be undertaken without a lot of departments becoming involved. Since the problem only affects a very few users, and those users have a very inexpensive solution (plug in a monitor), I don't think that they'll spend money and time on changing it. Really, you people that want a portable, need a MacBook. They're around $1,000, which is what you'd pay after upgrading a Mini, anyway. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
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Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS. Cheers Dónal On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote: For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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As ever, thank you Ester. On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:57, Esther wrote: Hi Dónal, According to the Mac-access list folks, who converted all their servers from Windows to the Mac at the end of last year, you could run a mac Mini with SL server on it without a monitor up through 10.6.2, but when 10.6.3 came out you needed to connect a monitor. You could ask them for more details. Here's the Mac-access mailing list info web page: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 28, 2010, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Brian I'm curious. When running Snow-Leopard server, does a monitor need to be connected? I'm half tempted to buy a mac Mini and run SL server on it, however, as I don't want to plug a monitor in, I won't bother if it needs one when running this version of the OS. Cheers Dónal On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:46, Bryan Smart wrote: For a dongle, you'd need to have something custom-made, as there isn't anything right now that I know of. Besides that, you'd need the mini displayport to VGA adaptor from Apple. By the time you got through buying those, you could have purchased a small LCD monitor for the same price. If the point is to be compact, and not to save money, then you can buy a basic MacBook for about the same money. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I am a bit confused here, another group member on here (Chris G?) said earlier he has a mac mini and has a monitor plugged into it, but never turns the monitor on. So how can the mac detect what resolution the monitor is if it is switched off? agree though for not much more you can have a Macbook with the lovely gesture trackpad. I managed to get the Macbook aluminium 13 inch before they put the price up and turned it into a Macbook Pro. On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Bryan Smart wrote: This doesn't exactly involve the video driver. The driver for your video card is fine. It just can't find an attached monitor, so can't report to OS X what display resolutions are available on it. I don't think that a dummy driver is likely. On the Mac, you don't select video drivers. If your card is supported, the OS uses it, if not, well it doesn't. The driver for the card detects the monitor. I don't even know how Apple would go about allowing you to select some custom driver. They go out of their way to prevent people from having to select and/or manage drivers. So, making any change like that wouldn't be a simple fix. They'd have to add some new screens and options to the Display preferences, probably, and that can't be undertaken without a lot of departments becoming involved. Since the problem only affects a very few users, and those users have a very inexpensive solution (plug in a monitor), I don't think that they'll spend money and time on changing it. Really, you people that want a portable, need a MacBook. They're around $1,000, which is what you'd pay after upgrading a Mini, anyway. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Wow that is clever! Oh jee the rain is getting worse here in good old blighty (England). So, if that is the case then surely ther e must be some sort of dongle available then? I wonder if the new HDMI version is so demanding... On 29 Jun 2010, at 00:02, Ricardo Walker wrote: It's true, I have my mini hooked up to my TV. When my TV is turned off the Mac still tells me the brand and resolution of my TV. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I am a bit confused here, another group member on here (Chris G?) said earlier he has a mac mini and has a monitor plugged into it, but never turns the monitor on. So how can the mac detect what resolution the monitor is if it is switched off? agree though for not much more you can have a Macbook with the lovely gesture trackpad. I managed to get the Macbook aluminium 13 inch before they put the price up and turned it into a Macbook Pro. On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Bryan Smart wrote: This doesn't exactly involve the video driver. The driver for your video card is fine. It just can't find an attached monitor, so can't report to OS X what display resolutions are available on it. I don't think that a dummy driver is likely. On the Mac, you don't select video drivers. If your card is supported, the OS uses it, if not, well it doesn't. The driver for the card detects the monitor. I don't even know how Apple would go about allowing you to select some custom driver. They go out of their way to prevent people from having to select and/or manage drivers. So, making any change like that wouldn't be a simple fix. They'd have to add some new screens and options to the Display preferences, probably, and that can't be undertaken without a lot of departments becoming involved. Since the problem only affects a very few users, and those users have a very inexpensive solution (plug in a monitor), I don't think that they'll spend money and time on changing it. Really, you people that want a portable, need a MacBook. They're around $1,000, which is what you'd pay after upgrading a Mini, anyway. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
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that is why I got a macbook instead of the mini glad i did but it cost me more money maybe that's why they did it On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
sounds kind of like the older windows machines where they wouldn't boot up unless a monitor and keyboard were connected even if you turned the monitor off. take care, max On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: It's true, I have my mini hooked up to my TV. When my TV is turned off the Mac still tells me the brand and resolution of my TV. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I am a bit confused here, another group member on here (Chris G?) said earlier he has a mac mini and has a monitor plugged into it, but never turns the monitor on. So how can the mac detect what resolution the monitor is if it is switched off? agree though for not much more you can have a Macbook with the lovely gesture trackpad. I managed to get the Macbook aluminium 13 inch before they put the price up and turned it into a Macbook Pro. On 28 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Bryan Smart wrote: This doesn't exactly involve the video driver. The driver for your video card is fine. It just can't find an attached monitor, so can't report to OS X what display resolutions are available on it. I don't think that a dummy driver is likely. On the Mac, you don't select video drivers. If your card is supported, the OS uses it, if not, well it doesn't. The driver for the card detects the monitor. I don't even know how Apple would go about allowing you to select some custom driver. They go out of their way to prevent people from having to select and/or manage drivers. So, making any change like that wouldn't be a simple fix. They'd have to add some new screens and options to the Display preferences, probably, and that can't be undertaken without a lot of departments becoming involved. Since the problem only affects a very few users, and those users have a very inexpensive solution (plug in a monitor), I don't think that they'll spend money and time on changing it. Really, you people that want a portable, need a MacBook. They're around $1,000, which is what you'd pay after upgrading a Mini, anyway. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Hello Bryan On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. You are absolutely correct. I thought that Apple could just implement a dummy video driver that one could set their own parameters. Do you see any reason why this wouldn't work? --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
how does he use a computer as a directv receiver I will happily pay pay the extr cost that directv is over cable IF I can actually operate the reciever somehow. as it is I can't stand any of the recievers or boxes as they are toally useless to me On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: To be honest, I want a macbook first. I just got this mini last month and felt guilty for it then. I think having another Mac mini for use with the television would be a great idea though. I have a friend who uses his own computers as a direct TV receiver and the mini might be an option for that as well. Eventually you could save the cost of the mini doing this. Kev On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Ha ha! good man, so getting back on topic and away from my personal life (grin), you gonna buy one? On 28 Jun 2010, at 01:34, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
I'm not sure about the new Mini but mine requires one for Safari. Everything else runs fine. Have you thought about getting a KVM to use? That would allow you to use a single monitor on multiple computers. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thanks to Mike Arrigo I found out about the monitor requirement. I bought this mac last month and spent 2 days trying to figure out why web pages loaded so slowly. Once I bought the dongle to use with my monitor, life was great and my mac experience became awesome. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, Kevin. I already have a KVM, I don't have a monitor at all, though. Do you think it would be possible to plug the KVM into the unit and that this would cause it to think a monitor is attached? Alternatively, has anyone found any sort of adapter which can fool the device into thinking that a monitor is plugged in? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor I'm not sure about the new Mini but mine requires one for Safari. Everything else runs fine. Have you thought about getting a KVM to use? That would allow you to use a single monitor on multiple computers. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thank you, Chris. What happens when the monitor is not connected, and is there a way to make the device think a monitor is plugged in when it's not? Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Speaking from personal experience. When I disconnect the monitor web browsing is all but useless. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:01:11 -0400 Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Chris. What happens when the monitor is not connected, and is there a way to make the device think a monitor is plugged in when it's not? Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
I don't know of a way of making it happen. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, Kevin. I already have a KVM, I don't have a monitor at all, though. Do you think it would be possible to plug the KVM into the unit and that this would cause it to think a monitor is attached? Alternatively, has anyone found any sort of adapter which can fool the device into thinking that a monitor is plugged in? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor I'm not sure about the new Mini but mine requires one for Safari. Everything else runs fine. Have you thought about getting a KVM to use? That would allow you to use a single monitor on multiple computers. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Life ain't fair. We save money on Gas, Lights, and reading materials. We can't complain too much. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
You really don't know what your missing. In my experience when I've disconnected my monitor Mail, Safari, Garageband, and iTunes are severely effected. Hook up the monitor again and all is right in my Mac world. lol. Well, almost. On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. Hth, Courtney On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Sure Chris, hide behind one of those names that leave you anonymous. Now I know coach, Anthropology and such things are in your vocabulary. Good advice though and coming from someone on the other team, I'll take the wisdom. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
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Thanks for being cool Chris. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Chris Moore wrote: yes, but sadly as I play for the other team I would probably keep hitting on he husbands lol On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:47, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Have you considered marriage counciling as a future career? Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Well all them pairs of shoes and hand bags she bought which were apparently on sale and saved her money were all my idea. so get your own back and set up that mac mini on your huge TV in the living room! Actually I am very jealous as this time last year when I could see I would have killed for a mac with HDMI on i for my living room. Let's just hope the updated iTV is accessible with some sort of TV content as my cable box is now useless. I am not sure if Richard Branson's Virgin team will have the foresight to add talking menus or enable the iPhone to control the device via VoiceOver and a wi fi signal. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:09, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Yeah, I'll tell my wife, I bought it because Chris told me it was OK. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Treat yourself :o) On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:53, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Come on Chris, you're gonna make me want to go buy one of the new ones now. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can also use an HD TV with the mac mini via HDMI if you have one of them kicking around. On 27 Jun 2010, at 21:35, Chris G wrote: On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst cdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Im not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
