Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

[Kliph Senior]

Yes, we have about 6 or 7 Braille display users in the group.

Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  Then 
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Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.

> On Aug 24, 2020, at 6:29 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I hope people are testing the Braille displays with the new software as it’s 
> about time Braille for OS was improved.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2020, at 01:40, Kliph Senior > <mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need
>> 
>> 
>> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
>> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
>> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
>> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
>> <mailto:public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io>
>> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
>> tester, please don’t join the group.
>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Maurice,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
>>> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines >>> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
>>>> list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
>>>> testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that 
>>>> testing. Please note however that if you got something that really is 
>>>> serious go to beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there 
>>>> it has been my experience that the beta feedback form that is included 
>>>> with each kind of beta software, is not very accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Maurice Mines.
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>>>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>>>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>>>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort 
>>>> to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above 
>>>> written text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>>>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>>>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the 
>>>> life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a 
>>>> proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of 
>>>> members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's 
>>>> blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they 
>>>> want.
>>>> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi.

I hope people are testing the Braille displays with the new software as it’s 
about time Braille for OS was improved.

Kawal.

> On 24 Aug 2020, at 01:40, Kliph Senior  wrote:
> 
> I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need
> 
> 
> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
> <mailto:public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io>
> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
> tester, please don’t join the group.
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Maurice,
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
>> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines >> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
>>> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
>>> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
>>> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
>>> beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there it has been my 
>>> experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind of 
>>> beta software, is not very accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maurice Mines.
>>> 
>>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort 
>>> to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above 
>>> written text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the 
>>> life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a 
>>> proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of 
>>> members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's 
>>> blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they 
>>> want.
>>> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

[maurice mines]

good evening, here's all the information regarding the public beta users 
list please remember everyone you please subscribe to this list this 
does not necessarily replace giving feedback back to Apple via the B 
backup or more importantly to beta.apple.com. Also remember that it's 
probably not a good idea to discuss any of this on this list meeting and 
posting the information on the list here, that's where any discussion of 
data related things belongs. I'm sure the Edmonds would appreciate not 
having things that are potentially breaking the nondisclosure agreement 
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sincerely Maurice Mines.

Please note that the text above excluding the copy of the information on 
the group, has been dictated to the computer. By means of dictation 
software. If there's something in my comments excluding what I mentioned 
above that you don't understand, please write me and ask me what my 
original intent was. I will make every effort to clear up any 
misunderstandings that the text above that I prefer to may have caused 
thank you very much for reading this. PS please also note that this is 
being dictated on a Windows machine because Nuance the maker of the 
dictation software no longer makes an OS X version of the dictation 
software so that's I'm having to use Windows in terms of the dictation 
software because of the lack of availability of an OS X version of the 
software.


On 8/23/2020 1:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hello Maurice,

Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i 
could subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?


Andrew
On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:


good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of 
that testing. Please note however that if you got something that 
really is serious go to beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com> and 
report it there it has been my experience that the beta feedback form 
that is included with each kind of beta software, is not very accessible.



Maurice Mines.

Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by 
means of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the 
above text, which is the email. If there's something that you don't 
understand, please write me and ask me what my original intent was? I 
will make every effort to try to clear up any misunderstandings that 
may arise from the above written text. Thank you very much for 
reading this.




On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew


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of the Blind Deafblind Division, a proud division of the National 
Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and friends who 
believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every day we 
work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

[Kliph Senior]

I am the owner of that list, and here is the info you need


Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  Then 
come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these 
bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io
Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Maurice,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
> subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines > <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
>> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
>> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
>> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
>> beta.apple.com <http://beta.apple.com/> and report it there it has been my 
>> experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind of 
>> beta software, is not very   accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maurice Mines.
>> 
>> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means 
>> of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, 
>> which is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please 
>> write me and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort to 
>> try to clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above written 
>> text. Thank you very much for reading this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>> -- 
>> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
>> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/>
>> Live the life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
>> Division, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a 
>> community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the 
>> nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the 
>> lives they want.
>> 
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>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Maurice,

Thank you for your reply.  Would you have the website address where i could 
subscribe to the public beta testers’ list?

Andrew
> On 23 Aug 2020, at 20:57, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users list. 
> On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while testing for 
> accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that testing. Please 
> note however that if you got something that really is serious go to 
> beta.apple.com and report it there it has been my experience that the beta 
> feedback form that is included with each kind of beta software, is not very 
> accessible.
> 
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
> Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by means of 
> dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the above text, which 
> is the email. If there's something that you don't understand, please write me 
> and ask me what my original intent was? I will make every effort to try to 
> clear up any misunderstandings that may arise from the above written text. 
> Thank you very much for reading this.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
> -- 
> Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
> Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org <mailto:boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org> 
> Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> Live the life 
> you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind Division, a proud 
> division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members 
> and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every 
> day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> 
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Re: Voiceover beta testers discussion group

[maurice mines]

good afternoon, the list you are looking for is the public beta users 
list. On that list we discussed in general issues we encounter while 
testing for accessibility. Of course voiceover is at the heart of that 
testing. Please note however that if you got something that really is 
serious go to beta.apple.com and report it there it has been my 
experience that the beta feedback form that is included with each kind 
of beta software, is not very accessible.



Maurice Mines.

Please note that the above text has been dictated to the computer by 
means of dictation software. There in fact may be some errors in the 
above text, which is the email. If there's something that you don't 
understand, please write me and ask me what my original intent was? I 
will make every effort to try to clear up any misunderstandings that may 
arise from the above written text. Thank you very much for reading this.




On 8/23/2020 12:46 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew


--
Maurice Mines, Board Member National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
Division Email: boa...@nfbdeaf-blind.org Website: www.nfbdeaf-blind.org 
Live the life you want. The National Federation of the Blind Deafblind 
Division, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind, is a 
community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of 
the nation's blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live 
the lives they want.


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Voiceover beta testers discussion group

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Does anyone know where to find voiceover beta testers discussion group?

Andrew

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RE: beta testers?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cheers for the clarification.

I’ll try and get in to it, but you guys are on the other side of the planet,
Time zones might be an issue to my sleep patterns

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kliph Senior
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2020 3:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: beta testers?

In general, any beta you use qualifies.  For 14 and Big Sur, developer beta’s 
but for iOS 13 you can discuss in the group any time
Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  Then 
come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these 
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Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.



On Jun 28, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Cliff

Is this for IOS / iPadOs 14 or in general?

As yet I’m still running IOS 13 PB and don’t expect that to change until Appple 
drop the PB in July.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Kliph Senior
Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 7:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: beta testers?

If you are running the public beta, and would like to chat about it.  Contact 
me at
sturi...@icloud.com<mailto:sturi...@icloud.com>
Gonna have a zoom meeting to discuss experiences and bugs.


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Re: beta testers?

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

If anyone has any feedback about the new VoiceOver recognition features, please 
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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Michael Marshall  
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> 
> Unfortunately the chat is in the middle of the night my time but I wish to 
> talk to anyone off list obviously that is running a test version of the new 
> Mac operating system.
> I'm deciding if I should test or not and any major problems
> I would be grateful for any assistance.
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:11 am, Kliph Senior > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes donna, this group has been active for the last 3 years.  I only use 
>> beta’s now because they are so stable.  The group info is below.  Also for 
>> anyone running the dev beta and wants to chat about it just email me at 
>> sturi...@icloud.com  I will be hosting a zoom 
>> call tomorrow
>> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
>> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
>> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
>> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
>> 
>> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
>> tester, please don’t join the group.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hey Kliph,
>>> 
>>> I was just thinking about installing the beta. Is that group still live?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Kliph Senior >>> > wrote:
 
 I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14
 
 
> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kliph Senior  > wrote:
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> If you are running the public beta, and would like to chat about it.  
> Contact me at
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> Gonna have a zoom meeting to discuss experiences and bugs.
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Re: beta testers?

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Unfortunately the chat is in the middle of the night my time but I wish to talk 
to anyone off list obviously that is running a test version of the new Mac 
operating system.
I'm deciding if I should test or not and any major problems
I would be grateful for any assistance.

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 1:11 am, Kliph Senior  wrote:
> 
> Yes donna, this group has been active for the last 3 years.  I only use 
> beta’s now because they are so stable.  The group info is below.  Also for 
> anyone running the dev beta and wants to chat about it just email me at 
> sturi...@icloud.com  I will be hosting a zoom 
> call tomorrow
> Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  
> Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash 
> these bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
> public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io 
> 
> Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
> tester, please don’t join the group.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> Hey Kliph,
>> 
>> I was just thinking about installing the beta. Is that group still live?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Kliph Senior >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kliph Senior >>> > wrote:
 
 If you are running the public beta, and would like to chat about it.  
 Contact me at
 sturi...@icloud.com 
 Gonna have a zoom meeting to discuss experiences and bugs.
 
 
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Re: beta testers?

[Kliph Senior]

In general, any beta you use qualifies.  For 14 and Big Sur, developer beta’s 
but for iOS 13 you can discuss in the group any time
Are you testing an apple beta?  want to discuss bugs with other testers?  Then 
come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these 
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Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.


> On Jun 28, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Cliff 
>  
> Is this for IOS / iPadOs 14 or in general?
>  
> As yet I’m still running IOS 13 PB and don’t expect that to change until 
> Appple drop the PB in July.
>  
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Re: beta testers?

[Kliph Senior]

Yes donna, this group has been active for the last 3 years.  I only use beta’s 
now because they are so stable.  The group info is below.  Also for anyone 
running the dev beta and wants to chat about it just email me at 
sturi...@icloud.com  I will be hosting a zoom call 
tomorrow
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come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these 
bugs together, and report them to apple. Subscribe here
public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io
Because of the non disclosure agreement, I have to say if your not a beta 
tester, please don’t join the group.


> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Kliph,
> 
> I was just thinking about installing the beta. Is that group still live?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Kliph Senior > > wrote:
>> 
>> I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kliph Senior >> > wrote:
>>> 
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>>> Contact me at
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>>> Gonna have a zoom meeting to discuss experiences and bugs.
>>> 
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Re: beta testers?

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

One personal invite I got from Apple had as subject header “ AppleSeed:  You're 
Invited to test macOS Bug Sur!” - do you think their mid-spelling of the name 
is an ominous sign?
Harry

> On 28 Jun 2020, at 09:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Cheers,
> Ignore my previous message.
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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>  
> I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14
>  
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RE: beta testers?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cheers,
Ignore my previous message.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 7:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: beta testers?

I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14



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If you are running the public beta, and would like to chat about it.  Contact 
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Gonna have a zoom meeting to discuss experiences and bugs.



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RE: beta testers?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Cliff

Is this for IOS / iPadOs 14 or in general?

As yet I’m still running IOS 13 PB and don’t expect that to change until Appple 
drop the PB in July.

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If you are running the public beta, and would like to chat about it.  Contact 
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Re: beta testers?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Kliph,

I was just thinking about installing the beta. Is that group still live?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Kliph Senior  wrote:
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> I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14
> 
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>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kliph Senior > > wrote:
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>> Contact me at
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Re: beta testers?

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I am sorry, meant dev beta for 14


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beta testers?

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RE: Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers email list?

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Yeah Maurice 

 The following should help you if no one else has passed it on previously.

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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 7:26 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers 
email list?

Hello, my subject line pretty much says that all. I’m having beta test issues 
but of course cannot discuss the open meet on a list. So I am wondering if 
there is an email list that has been set up specifically for the purpose of 
those of us were beta testing discussing issues amongst ourselves. I hope 
someone has information that could be helpful? 
Thank you in advance.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.


PS one final small question, is when Kong even usable with VoiceOver?

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Re: Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers email list?

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public-beta-users+subscr...@groups.io


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I will 
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> On Aug 24, 2019, at 3:26 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
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> issues but of course cannot discuss the open meet on a list. So I am 
> wondering if there is an email list that has been set up specifically for the 
> purpose of those of us were beta testing discussing issues amongst ourselves. 
> I hope someone has information that could be helpful? Thank you in advance.
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> PS one final small question, is when Kong even usable with VoiceOver?
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Looking for information on how to subscribe to the Apple beta testers email list?

[maurice.mines]

Hello, my subject line pretty much says that all. I’m having beta test 
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Sincerely Maurice Mines.


PS one final small question, is when Kong even usable with VoiceOver?

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only 6 of the 10 Wordpress beta testers left

[Michael Babcock]

Hey:
I sent a message last week explaining how I’ve created a training platform 
walking blind entrepreneurs through the process of installing and configuring 
Wordpress from a voiceover users point of view. I also explained that I will be 
releasing windows versions of these videos as well in the near future! However 
I need beta testers. If you're interested, listen to this audio message to 
learn more. 
(NOTE: I stated in the audio message i was looking for 10 people, 4 people have 
taken me up on this offer, and you could be the next one.)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6285342/Need%20Empowering%20The%20Blind%20Beta%20Testers.m4a
 
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6285342/Need%20Empowering%20The%20Blind%20Beta%20Testers.m4a>

and hear is a sample of the first video, so you can hear some of my trainings 
before you take action and decide to get involved:
https://yourownpay.wistia.com/medias/g4dbymi1d8 
<https://yourownpay.wistia.com/medias/g4dbymi1d8>
finally, hear is my email, please send me an email if you are interested in 
this comprehensive training package.
mich...@yourownpay.com <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>
look forward to helping you.

Michael Babcock
Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
@payown on periscope and twitter.
http://yourownpay <http://yourownpay/>.com/
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Needing 10 beta testers for this wordpress training i've created

[Michael Babcock]

good day:
I've created a training platform walking blind entrepreneurs through the 
process of installing and configuring Wordpress from a voiceover users point of 
view. I will be releasing windows versions of these videos as well in the near 
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message to learn more.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6285342/Need%20Empowering%20The%20Blind%20Beta%20Testers.m4a
 
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6285342/Need%20Empowering%20The%20Blind%20Beta%20Testers.m4a>

and hear is a sample of the first video, so you can hear some of my trainings 
before you take action and decide to get involved:
https://yourownpay.wistia.com/medias/g4dbymi1d8 
<https://yourownpay.wistia.com/medias/g4dbymi1d8>
finally, hear is my email, please send me an email if you are interested in 
this comprehensive training package.
mich...@yourownpay.com <mailto:mich...@yourownpay.com>
look forward to helping you.

Michael Babcock
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Re: Question To Beta Testers *Please* Answer Off List

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

no i don't think that you are breaking any rules. i think we can still report 
things on the feedback but i think they are not doing anything. i reported some 
bugs but until now it's not fix.
Il giorno 26/dic/2014, alle ore 07:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
ha scritto:

 Hi all beta testers of Yosemite. I'm not sure if this is breaking any rules 
 so as the subject line says, please reply off list. I know the Feedback 
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Question To Beta Testers *Please* Answer Off List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi all beta testers of Yosemite. I'm not sure if this is breaking any rules so 
as the subject line says, please reply off list. I know the Feedback Assistant 
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Shawn
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Beta Testers for Budget Program

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Hello,

Some here will be familiar with my work in the past when I developed ZCaptcha. 
This time I've been developing a budgeting application that I've tried to make 
as accessible as possible.

I need some people who are willing to test it out and give me suggestions. 
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Re: Beta Testers for Budget Program

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Hello,
I'm quite interested. However, what's your best email address to use to contact 
you off list?

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 Some here will be familiar with my work in the past when I developed 
 ZCaptcha. This time I've been developing a budgeting application that I've 
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Re: Beta Testers for Budget Program

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My email is: programmer2...@gmail.com

Glad you are interested. :)

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Fwd: OpenOffice/Seeking Beta Testers to Test accessibility

[erik burggraaf]

 MONDAY MAR 10, 2014
 Seeking Beta Testers for Apache OpenOffice 4.1
 We're looking for users interested in test driving our new Apache
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Re: OpenOffice/Seeking Beta Testers to Test accessibility

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I would love to test the open office beta .
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 The 4.1.0 Beta features:
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 *Annotations of text ranges in Writer.
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Re: OpenOffice/Seeking Beta Testers to Test accessibility

[Chris Blouch]

Hmmm. Doesn't mention much in the way of Voiceover bugfixes, but I guess 
that wouldn't be a major feature. Just 64-bit support for OSX. 
iAccessible2 is a windows/linux accessibility API so that's not going to 
matter for OSX/Voiceover.


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I would love to test the open office beta .
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Seeking Beta Testers for Apache OpenOffice 4.1
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users.

Beta versions may have more bugs than our final GA releases and may
not be suitable for tasks which require the highest level of stability.
Beta versions are recommended for experienced users who are willing to
share their feedback with the OpenOffice project.
The 4.1.0 Beta features:
.Mac OS X version is now 64-bit and requires OS X version 10.7 or 
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.Integrated iAccessible2 support, offering better integration with
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.Annotations of text ranges in Writer.
.In-place editing of text fields in Writer.
.Interactive image crop feature for Impress and Draw.
.Enhanced support for 3D charts.
.New language translations: Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmĺl
and Thai.
.Many bug fixes and smaller improvements as detailed in the Release 
Notes.

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https://issues.apache.org/ooo/. Questions and other feedback, good or
bad, can be sent to our users mailing list at 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

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I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be interested in 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

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hello,

I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
mac.

thanks

Mauricio

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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

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It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client

Sent from my iPod

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 mac.
 
 thanks
 
 Mauricio
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

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Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be 
integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
completely accessible before that can happen


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 It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
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 wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
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 mac.
 
 thanks
 
 Mauricio
 
 On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
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 in testing your client as well.
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

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That will be amazing! Will the sound packs be available too?

Sent from my iPod

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 Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be 
 integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
 completely accessible before that can happen
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
 for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
 mac.
 
 thanks
 
 Mauricio
 
 On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be interested
 in testing your client as well.
 
 -Greg
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Tyler Thompson]

MSP MSDP MCCP GMCP and ZMP will all be supported (eventually) … so short answer 
is yes sound packs will be available.

The client will also be available on IOS in the future (it'll be accessible 
there as well). 

As of this moment my client is a little over 10,000 lines of code. creating all 
the MUD protocol support will be a huge task so i can't tell you exactly when 
it'll all happen, just that it will


On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 That will be amazing! Will the sound packs be available too?
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all be 
 integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
 completely accessible before that can happen
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
 for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
 mac.
 
 thanks
 
 Mauricio
 
 On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be 
 interested
 in testing your client as well.
 
 -Greg
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Devin Prater]

That will be amazing, as the mud rammer client doesn't seem to allow the 
adding of additional MUD's.

Sent from my iPod

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 MSP MSDP MCCP GMCP and ZMP will all be supported (eventually) … so short 
 answer is yes sound packs will be available.
 
 The client will also be available on IOS in the future (it'll be accessible 
 there as well). 
 
 As of this moment my client is a little over 10,000 lines of code. creating 
 all the MUD protocol support will be a huge task so i can't tell you exactly 
 when it'll all happen, just that it will
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 That will be amazing! Will the sound packs be available too?
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Scripts from tt++, MUSH, zMud, cMud, alter aeon, python and ruby will all 
 be integrated at some point, although i've got to finish making everything 
 completely accessible before that can happen
 
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 It'd b good if we could import the scripts for alter aeon into the client
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mauricio Almeida 
 mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hello,
 
 I would be interested  in testing this as well, as i have played muds
 for more than five years now and never found a good cliente for the
 mac.
 
 thanks
 
 Mauricio
 
 On 6/7/13, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have been fairly satisfied with tintin for mac, but I would be 
 interested
 in testing your client as well.
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello!
Please, let us know how we can help to beta test the client. It is great some 
one make one accessible for mac!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507






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 triggers timers and variables. If you'd be interested in beta testing the 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Devin Prater]

In 3 weeks I can test 

Sent from my iPod

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 Hello!
 Please, let us know how we can help to beta test the client. It is great some 
 one make one accessible for mac!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 escribió:
 
 Hello
 
  My name is Tyler and I'm an apple developer. I've been making a MUD 
 client (as I've never been satisfied with the ones available for mac). The 
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 triggers timers and variables. If you'd be interested in beta testing the 
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Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Tyler Thompson]

Hello

My name is Tyler and I'm an apple developer. I've been making a MUD 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[May and Noah]

I'm definitely interested. Please let me know how I can help.


May and Prince Noah
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Kjsc Radio]

I Would also like to become a tester Let me know

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 I'm definitely interested. Please let me know how I can help.
 
 
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for accessible Mud Client

[Blake Sinnett]

Hello,

While I don't MUD and don't wish to become a tester, I just wanted to say 
that it's awesome to see a developer putting forth some effort to insure 
accessibility. We need to see more of this kind of stuff. Thanks a lot for 
doing that.


Blake


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I Would also like to become a tester Let me know

Sent from my iPhone

On 03/06/2013, at 1:57 PM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:


I'm definitely interested. Please let me know how I can help.


May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-06-03, at 4:34 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hello

   My name is Tyler and I'm an apple developer. I've been making a MUD 
client (as I've never been satisfied with the ones available for mac). 
The client has regular expression support as well as the standard 
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Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Ed Worrell]

HEllo listers, I am wrighting to let the list know that I have been working 
with an app developer to get his Facebook client app more accessible. He is now 
ready to have the app tested, and is wanting some people in the blind community 
to test it and make sure it works with Voiceover. Here is the link to get 
registered 
http://bit.ly/Hv7FPU
Please help out this developer and give him some good feedback.
Thanks
Ed




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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Krister Ekstrom]

Ok, i have signed up, now to see if i get accepted.:-)
/Krister

25 apr 2012 kl. 17:01 skrev Ed Worrell:

 HEllo listers, I am wrighting to let the list know that I have been working 
 with an app developer to get his Facebook client app more accessible. He is 
 now ready to have the app tested, and is wanting some people in the blind 
 community to test it and make sure it works with Voiceover. Here is the link 
 to get registered 
 http://bit.ly/Hv7FPU
 Please help out this developer and give him some good feedback.
 Thanks
 Ed
 
 
 
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Mika Pyyhkala]

Hi,
I have signed up as well, you may want to post more of a description,
and we could encourage people on Twitter who follow the #a11y hashtag
to sign up also.  Or people on Facebook.

Thanks,
Mika

On 4/25/12, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Ok, i have signed up, now to see if i get accepted.:-)
 /Krister

 25 apr 2012 kl. 17:01 skrev Ed Worrell:

 HEllo listers, I am wrighting to let the list know that I have been
 working with an app developer to get his Facebook client app more
 accessible. He is now ready to have the app tested, and is wanting some
 people in the blind community to test it and make sure it works with
 Voiceover. Here is the link to get registered
 http://bit.ly/Hv7FPU
 Please help out this developer and give him some good feedback.
 Thanks
 Ed




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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Ed Worrell]

The beta test is for a Facebook app called FaceDekk, This was the first app 
that I used outside of the Facebook.com app, I got in touch with the developer 
and he is willing to make the app 100% accessible to the blind, infact this app 
is in the app store, he is currently making a new version of the app for 
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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Ray Foret Jr]

How you sign up?  I saw the web site but there ain't no edit boxes or links to 
sign up with.


Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Apr 25, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Ok, i have signed up, now to see if i get accepted.:-)
 /Krister
 
 25 apr 2012 kl. 17:01 skrev Ed Worrell:
 
 HEllo listers, I am wrighting to let the list know that I have been working 
 with an app developer to get his Facebook client app more accessible. He is 
 now ready to have the app tested, and is wanting some people in the blind 
 community to test it and make sure it works with Voiceover. Here is the link 
 to get registered 
 http://bit.ly/Hv7FPU
 Please help out this developer and give him some good feedback.
 Thanks
 Ed
 
 
 
 
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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[chris hallsworth]

I signed up so am just waiting for the build to be made available for my 
device iPhone 4.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/04/2012 18:40, Ed Worrell wrote:

The beta test is for a Facebook app called FaceDekk, This was the first app 
that I used outside of the Facebook.com app, I got in touch with the developer 
and he is willing to make the app 100% accessible to the blind, infact this app 
is in the app store, he is currently making a new version of the app for 
everyone else, but he is devoted to making a fully accessible Facebook client 
app with all the features of the Facebook.com app but more straight forward to 
use for the blind.
Ed



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RE: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Missy Hoppe]

I was going to sign up, but then I saw this was for Ios only, so I can't use it 
on my macbook, which is currently the only
apple device I own.

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On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
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I signed up so am just waiting for the build to be made available for my device 
iPhone 4.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/04/2012 18:40, Ed Worrell wrote:
 The beta test is for a Facebook app called FaceDekk, This was the first app 
 that I used outside of the Facebook.com app, I
got in touch with the developer and he is willing to make the app 100% 
accessible to the blind, infact this app is in the app
store, he is currently making a new version of the app for everyone else, but 
he is devoted to making a fully accessible
Facebook client app with all the features of the Facebook.com app but more 
straight forward to use for the blind.
 Ed


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Re: Beta testers needed for Accessible Facebook app

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I second that confusion; I even got the Confirm Email, but since I don't have 
an IOD device to log in with, I bailed at that point.  This message is really 
better suited to the VIPhone list.


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Re: current mac beta testers

[Ricardo Walker]

I don't think Apple even knows the official release date. lol.  They just 
released the developer preview for Lion a month ago.  Apple said it will be out 
this summer.  But I don't think anyone really knows more than that.

hth

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On Mar 31, 2011, at 12:11 AM, KliphSharrie wrote:

 When is the official release?
 
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 Hi,
 
 For those who are currently mac developers and testing the latest os and
 respecting the Non Disclosure Agreement, could you please mail me off-list
 to compare notes and bulk send bug reports and requests through the
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 I have been spending a lot of time writing down all the changes and need to
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current mac beta testers

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi,

For those who are currently mac developers and testing the latest os and 
respecting the Non Disclosure Agreement, could you please mail me off-list to 
compare notes and bulk send bug reports and requests through the developer's 
portal?

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RE: current mac beta testers

[KliphSharrie]

When is the official release?

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Hi,

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