Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
But you can’t listen through audio via ssh?
I want to listen to Fotboall from Premiere League so i need a vpn.
/A
> 8 apr. 2017 kl. 07:30 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Or use ssh to do a similar job.
> 
> Secure connection to your home network.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2017 12:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi!
> I have a small question.
> I guess a mac mini also could act as a good and stable vpn-server?
> I was thinking of putting open vpn server on it and use the ethernet port for 
> incomming data and the wifi for all my stuff here.
> /A
>> 6 apr. 2017 kl. 21:01 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Nancy, there’s nothing about VPNs that make them inaccessible that I know 
>> of.  Your Mac has several fully accessible clients built in along with lots 
>> of add on packages all that work fine.  Do you by chance know what client 
>> your IT team wants you to use?  I’d be happy to speak about it directly if 
>> you know what’s being used.  In general though, I would not worry about 
>> voice over compatibility.
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to 
>>> set up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are 
>>> saying that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to 
>>> use? I understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work 
>>> with voiceover.
>>> Thanks
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from 
>>> my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
 
 VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
 can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
 securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
 communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
 in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at 
 a public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example 
 with my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your 
 name / password and over time more and more critical data as you use your 
 computer not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and 
 makes it impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public 
 WiFi.
 
 They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
 activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name 
 and password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need 
 anything more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically 
 connect once booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite 
 accessible on most platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a 
 matter of installing software.
 
 There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going 
 to leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have 
 already.  Let me know if you have any questions.
 
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent 
> from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
>> 
>> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history 
>> from ISPs
>> 
>> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-pr
>> otect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
>> 
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RE: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Or use ssh to do a similar job.

 Secure connection to your home network.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2017 12:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Hi!
I have a small question.
I guess a mac mini also could act as a good and stable vpn-server?
I was thinking of putting open vpn server on it and use the ethernet port for 
incomming data and the wifi for all my stuff here.
/A
> 6 apr. 2017 kl. 21:01 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Nancy, there’s nothing about VPNs that make them inaccessible that I know of. 
>  Your Mac has several fully accessible clients built in along with lots of 
> add on packages all that work fine.  Do you by chance know what client your 
> IT team wants you to use?  I’d be happy to speak about it directly if you 
> know what’s being used.  In general though, I would not worry about voice 
> over compatibility.
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
>> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
>> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
>> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
>> voiceover.
>> Thanks
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from 
>> my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>>> 
>>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>>> 
>>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name 
>>> and password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need 
>>> anything more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically 
>>> connect once booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite 
>>> accessible on most platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a 
>>> matter of installing software.
>>> 
>>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already. 
>>>  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
 Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
 know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent 
 from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
> 
> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history 
> from ISPs
> 
> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-pr
> otect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
> 
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

You could do that yes.  That should have way more than enough horse power.

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I have a small question.
> I guess a mac mini also could act as a good and stable vpn-server?
> I was thinking of putting open vpn server on it and use the ethernet port for 
> incomming data and the wifi for all my stuff here.
> /A
>> 6 apr. 2017 kl. 21:01 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Nancy, there’s nothing about VPNs that make them inaccessible that I know 
>> of.  Your Mac has several fully accessible clients built in along with lots 
>> of add on packages all that work fine.  Do you by chance know what client 
>> your IT team wants you to use?  I’d be happy to speak about it directly if 
>> you know what’s being used.  In general though, I would not worry about 
>> voice over compatibility.
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to 
>>> set up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are 
>>> saying that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to 
>>> use? I understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work 
>>> with voiceover.
>>> Thanks
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
 
 VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
 can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
 securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
 communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
 in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at 
 a public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example 
 with my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your 
 name / password and over time more and more critical data as you use your 
 computer not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and 
 makes it impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public 
 WiFi.
 
 They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
 activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name 
 and password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need 
 anything more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically 
 connect once booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite 
 accessible on most platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a 
 matter of installing software.
 
 There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going 
 to leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have 
 already.  Let me know if you have any questions.
 
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
> errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
>> 
>> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
>> ISPs
>> 
>> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
>> 
>> XB
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I have a small question.
I guess a mac mini also could act as a good and stable vpn-server?
I was thinking of putting open vpn server on it and use the ethernet port for 
incomming data and the wifi for all my stuff here.
/A
> 6 apr. 2017 kl. 21:01 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Nancy, there’s nothing about VPNs that make them inaccessible that I know of. 
>  Your Mac has several fully accessible clients built in along with lots of 
> add on packages all that work fine.  Do you by chance know what client your 
> IT team wants you to use?  I’d be happy to speak about it directly if you 
> know what’s being used.  In general though, I would not worry about voice 
> over compatibility.
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
>> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
>> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
>> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
>> voiceover.
>> Thanks
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>>> 
>>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>>> 
>>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name 
>>> and password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need 
>>> anything more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically 
>>> connect once booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite 
>>> accessible on most platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a 
>>> matter of installing software.
>>> 
>>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already. 
>>>  Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
 Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
 know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
> 
> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
> ISPs
> 
> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
> 
> XB
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RE: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes cisco any connect is a client that needs to communicate with a vpn service 
at your business or a provider of the vpn service.

We use the same product at work
 The cisco any connect is not a vpn service it is just a client for connecting 
or enabling your vpn connection.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, 7 April 2017 12:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Nancy,

My office uses a Cisco VPN product with DUO mobile. The client on the Macintosh 
side is called Cisco Anytime connect.

This one is fully accessible and has two factor authentication enabled.

When I launch the VPN client, I put in my password in the first password field 
and the word "push" into the second password field. A second later I get a 
notification on my iPhone. I open the DUO app and click on the word approve and 
then the dialog disappears from my computer. At this point all my network 
traffic gets re-routed as though I was directly connected in my office.  I have 
found this very straight forward. My company has about 1000 employees and we 
maintain two connection points into the network.

Hope this helps.
DUO also has the ability of working with pin numbers sent via text message, but 
I have found for me that the pin often times out before I can find it and type 
it into the box.
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger 
> wrote:

Scott,
Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set up 
a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying that 
this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
voiceover.
Thanks
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:

Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.

VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there can 
be network resources or services you want to get to privately and securely.  
Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the communication from 
your device to a wired secure destination where someone in the middle can’t 
grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a public WiFi point and 
you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with my computer I could be 
sitting a table over from you and grab your name / password and over time more 
and more critical data as you use your computer not even knowing what I’m up 
to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it impossible for me to intercept.  
That’s very important for public WiFi.

They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything more 
than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once booted. 
 It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most platforms, 
options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing software.

There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
Let me know if you have any questions.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger 
> wrote:

Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't know 
anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d. 
> wrote:


Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.

ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from ISPs

http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers

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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Nancy, there’s nothing about VPNs that make them inaccessible that I know of.  
Your Mac has several fully accessible clients built in along with lots of add 
on packages all that work fine.  Do you by chance know what client your IT team 
wants you to use?  I’d be happy to speak about it directly if you know what’s 
being used.  In general though, I would not worry about voice over 
compatibility.

> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
> voiceover.
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>> 
>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>> 
>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
>> password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything 
>> more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once 
>> booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most 
>> platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing 
>> software.
>> 
>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
>>> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
 
 
 Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
 
 ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
 ISPs
 
 http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
 
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I haven't been following the VPN discussion that closely but I did 
stumble upon this article talking about fake VPN services:


https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/04/05/1944213/phony-vpn-services-are-cashing-in-on-americas-war-on-privacy

Jump by header once to get to the actual article, which is just a 
summary with links to a couple web pages.


CB

On 4/5/17 10:59 PM, Des Delgadillo wrote:

Nancy,
I have lots of experience using HotSpot Shield on both my Mac and 
iPhone. Works like a charm. Give them a look and if you have any 
additional questions feel free to contact me off-list:

desdelgadi...@gmail.com 


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On Apr 5, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Nancy Badger > wrote:


Scott,
Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want 
to set up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So 
you are saying that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and 
easy for me to use? I understand basically what it is. I'm just not 
sure if it will work with voiceover.

Thanks
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
errors.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:


Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.

VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is 
there can be network resources or services you want to get to 
privately and securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you 
want to secure the communication from your device to a wired secure 
destination where someone in the middle can’t grab your information 
on the way by.  Say you were at a public WiFi point and you didn’t 
use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with my computer I could be 
sitting a table over from you and grab your name / password and over 
time more and more critical data as you use your computer not even 
knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.


They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer 
and you activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most 
entering in a name and password.  If you use keys you may hit 
connect only and not need anything more than that.  In other cases 
you can have them automatically connect once booted.  It’s up to the 
user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most platforms, 
options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing software.


There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m 
going to leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I 
may have already.  Let me know if you have any questions.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger > wrote:


Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I 
don't know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in 
advance.

Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
errors.


On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d. > wrote:



Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.

ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history 
from ISPs


http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers

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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Nancy,

My office uses a Cisco VPN product with DUO mobile. The client on the Macintosh 
side is called Cisco Anytime connect. 

This one is fully accessible and has two factor authentication enabled.

When I launch the VPN client, I put in my password in the first password field 
and the word "push" into the second password field. A second later I get a 
notification on my iPhone. I open the DUO app and click on the word approve and 
then the dialog disappears from my computer. At this point all my network 
traffic gets re-routed as though I was directly connected in my office.  I have 
found this very straight forward. My company has about 1000 employees and we 
maintain two connection points into the network. 

Hope this helps.
DUO also has the ability of working with pin numbers sent via text message, but 
I have found for me that the pin often times out before I can find it and type 
it into the box. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




> On Apr 5, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
> voiceover.
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>> 
>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>> 
>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
>> password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything 
>> more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once 
>> booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most 
>> platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing 
>> software.
>> 
>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
>>> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
 
 
 Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
 
 ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
 ISPs
 
 http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
 
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[David Chittenden]

If it is a VPN connection, it will be accessible. If it is a VPN app to access 
a VPN service, the app may or may not be accessible.

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> On 6/04/2017, at 13:41, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
> voiceover.
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>> 
>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>> 
>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
>> password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything 
>> more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once 
>> booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most 
>> platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing 
>> software.
>> 
>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
>>> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
 
 
 Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
 
 ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
 ISPs
 
 http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
 
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Des Delgadillo]

Nancy,
I have lots of experience using HotSpot Shield on both my Mac and iPhone. Works 
like a charm. Give them a look and if you have any additional questions feel 
free to contact me off-list:
desdelgadi...@gmail.com 


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> On Apr 5, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set 
> up a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying 
> that this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
> understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
> voiceover.
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
>> 
>> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there 
>> can be network resources or services you want to get to privately and 
>> securely.  Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the 
>> communication from your device to a wired secure destination where someone 
>> in the middle can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a 
>> public WiFi point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with 
>> my computer I could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / 
>> password and over time more and more critical data as you use your computer 
>> not even knowing what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it 
>> impossible for me to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
>> 
>> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
>> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
>> password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything 
>> more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once 
>> booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most 
>> platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing 
>> software.
>> 
>> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
>> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't 
>>> know anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
 
 
 Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
 
 ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from 
 ISPs
 
 http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
 
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Nancy Badger]

Scott,
Thanks very much for the info. I am asking because our IT people want to set up 
a VPN because of the nature of the things I do at work. So you are saying that 
this would most likely be voiceover friendly and easy for me to use? I 
understand basically what it is. I'm just not sure if it will work with 
voiceover.
Thanks
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.
> 
> VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there can 
> be network resources or services you want to get to privately and securely.  
> Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the communication 
> from your device to a wired secure destination where someone in the middle 
> can’t grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a public WiFi 
> point and you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with my computer I 
> could be sitting a table over from you and grab your name / password and over 
> time more and more critical data as you use your computer not even knowing 
> what I’m up to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it impossible for me 
> to intercept.  That’s very important for public WiFi.
> 
> They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
> activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
> password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything 
> more than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once 
> booted.  It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most 
> platforms, options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing 
> software.
> 
> There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
> leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't know 
>> anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
>>> 
>>> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from ISPs
>>> 
>>> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Donna, no I don’t believe it does.

Thanks
Scott

> On Apr 5, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Just curious, does the Airport Extreme have VPN as an option?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:21 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ah Simon, it’s like this, I’ve never seen Unix kill anyone, I have seen 
>> Windows though.  This was a long time ago but when I was on a support call 
>> where someone died as a result of a windows crash I never put any faith in 
>> it again.  That combined with the DOD (department of defense). Complete lack 
>> of security certification.  I know things have improved but in my opinion, 
>> Microsoft is a consumer operating system at best and has no place in the 
>> real operations world.  Thankfully, most large providers and enterprises 
>> agree with me.
>> 
>> That being said, I’m absolutely certain there is a port of open VPN for 
>> windows.  Clients are no problem and plentiful and servers are available at 
>> openvpn.org  if memory serves.
>> 
>> Also remember Netgear routers among others include Open VPN as a feature you 
>> can simply enable.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> What drugs you taking dude?
>>> 
>>> Linux ain't my bucket of chicken,
>>> 
>>> Windows is a differnet kettle of fish,
>>> I can find my way around linux / unix but still not what I call fun.
>>> 
>>> Is there a windows version of Open VPN ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 2:15 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could 
>>> do it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
>>> administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
>>> project.
>>> 
>>> I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
>>> apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
>>> certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a 
>>> small configuration file for the server and one per client and then just 
>>> push the config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the 
>>> client software.  Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very 
>>> powerful.  You can use 4096 bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That 
>>> will even give Uncle Sam and the tappers a run for their money.
>>> 
>>> I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is 
>>> you only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point 
>>> and or join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  
>>> You could also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.
>>> 
>>> Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear 
>>> already set up.
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 
 How complicated is open VPN to setup?
 
 And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
 
 Hi!
 Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn 
 server to?
 This could be something to dig into.
 /A
> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados  >:
> 
> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more 
> flexibility.  You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally 
> free clients (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also 
> have the advantage of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re 
> not blocked from Netflix for example.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable 

Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Scott,

Just curious, does the Airport Extreme have VPN as an option?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:21 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Ah Simon, it’s like this, I’ve never seen Unix kill anyone, I have seen 
> Windows though.  This was a long time ago but when I was on a support call 
> where someone died as a result of a windows crash I never put any faith in it 
> again.  That combined with the DOD (department of defense). Complete lack of 
> security certification.  I know things have improved but in my opinion, 
> Microsoft is a consumer operating system at best and has no place in the real 
> operations world.  Thankfully, most large providers and enterprises agree 
> with me.
> 
> That being said, I’m absolutely certain there is a port of open VPN for 
> windows.  Clients are no problem and plentiful and servers are available at 
> openvpn.org  if memory serves.
> 
> Also remember Netgear routers among others include Open VPN as a feature you 
> can simply enable.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, 
>> 
>> What drugs you taking dude?
>> 
>> Linux ain't my bucket of chicken,
>> 
>> Windows is a differnet kettle of fish,
>> I can find my way around linux / unix but still not what I call fun.
>> 
>> Is there a windows version of Open VPN ?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 2:15 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
>> 
>> Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could 
>> do it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
>> administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
>> project.
>> 
>> I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
>> apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
>> certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a 
>> small configuration file for the server and one per client and then just 
>> push the config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the 
>> client software.  Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very powerful. 
>>  You can use 4096 bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That will even 
>> give Uncle Sam and the tappers a run for their money.
>> 
>> I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is 
>> you only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point 
>> and or join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  
>> You could also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.
>> 
>> Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear 
>> already set up.
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
>>> 
>>> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
>>> to?
>>> This could be something to dig into.
>>> /A
 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados >:
 
 My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
 server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility. 
  You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
 (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the 
 advantage of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked 
 from Netflix for example.
 
 
 
> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  > wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although 
> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time 
> license fee would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I 
> 

Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Ah Simon, it’s like this, I’ve never seen Unix kill anyone, I have seen Windows 
though.  This was a long time ago but when I was on a support call where 
someone died as a result of a windows crash I never put any faith in it again.  
That combined with the DOD (department of defense). Complete lack of security 
certification.  I know things have improved but in my opinion, Microsoft is a 
consumer operating system at best and has no place in the real operations 
world.  Thankfully, most large providers and enterprises agree with me.

That being said, I’m absolutely certain there is a port of open VPN for 
windows.  Clients are no problem and plentiful and servers are available at 
openvpn.org  if memory serves.

Also remember Netgear routers among others include Open VPN as a feature you 
can simply enable.



> On Apr 4, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> What drugs you taking dude?
> 
> Linux ain't my bucket of chicken,
> 
> Windows is a differnet kettle of fish,
> I can find my way around linux / unix but still not what I call fun.
> 
> Is there a windows version of Open VPN ?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 2:15 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could 
> do it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
> administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
> project.
> 
> I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
> apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
> certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a 
> small configuration file for the server and one per client and then just push 
> the config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the client 
> software.  Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very powerful.  You 
> can use 4096 bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That will even give 
> Uncle Sam and the tappers a run for their money.
> 
> I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is 
> you only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point 
> and or join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  
> You could also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.
> 
> Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear 
> already set up.
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
>> 
>> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
>> to?
>> This could be something to dig into.
>> /A
>>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>>> 
>>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the 
>>> advantage of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked 
>>> from Netflix for example.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
 wrote:
 
 Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
 voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although
 that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time
 license fee would be preferred.
 
 I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I
 don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
 
 I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs
 are good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
 internet activities.
 
 Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
 for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
 and had no joy on either operating system...
 
 I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29
 for the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on
 any platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a
 vpn I won't be able to use.
 
 

Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Nancy, let me give you a bit of background.

VPN stands for virtual private network.  Basically what it means is there can 
be network resources or services you want to get to privately and securely.  
Another use, your use most likely, is you want to secure the communication from 
your device to a wired secure destination where someone in the middle can’t 
grab your information on the way by.  Say you were at a public WiFi point and 
you didn’t use a VPN.  It’s possible for example with my computer I could be 
sitting a table over from you and grab your name / password and over time more 
and more critical data as you use your computer not even knowing what I’m up 
to.  So a VPN encrypts that data and makes it impossible for me to intercept.  
That’s very important for public WiFi.

They are very easy to use.  A client is installed on your computer and you 
activate it by clicking connect on a panel or at most entering in a name and 
password.  If you use keys you may hit connect only and not need anything more 
than that.  In other cases you can have them automatically connect once booted. 
 It’s up to the user.  Typically they are quite accessible on most platforms, 
options range from free on up and it’s a matter of installing software.

There are other types of VPNs and all sorts of configurations, I’m going to 
leave them out for now as to not confuse you worse then I may have already.  
Let me know if you have any questions.

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't know 
> anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
>> 
>> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from ISPs
>> 
>> http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers
>> 
>> XB
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Re: Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Nancy Badger]

Are you saying that this one actually does work with voiceover? I don't know 
anything about VPNs. Are they easy to use? Thanks in advance.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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UT Chattanooga
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> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:30 AM, -dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.
> 
> ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from ISPs
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Deal, free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[-dan d.]

Current deal, $29 lifetime membership.

ScienceAlert deal: TigerVPN can help protect your browsing history from ISPs

http://www.sciencealert.com/sciencealert-deal-tigervpn-can-help-protect-your-browsing-history-from-internet-service-providers

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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Oh and thanks,

 Gives me a place to start looking.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 2:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could do 
it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
project.

I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a small 
configuration file for the server and one per client and then just push the 
config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the client software. 
 Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very powerful.  You can use 4096 
bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That will even give Uncle Sam and the 
tappers a run for their money.

I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is you 
only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point and or 
join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  You could 
also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.

Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear already 
set up.

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
> 
> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi!
> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
> to?
> This could be something to dig into.
> /A
>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage 
>> of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from 
>> Netflix for example.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
>>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although 
>>> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time 
>>> license fee would be preferred.
>>> 
>>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I 
>>> don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>>> 
>>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs 
>>> are good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
>>> internet activities.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
>>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
>>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>>> 
>>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 
>>> for the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on 
>>> any platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a 
>>> vpn I won't be able to use.
>>> 
>>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
>>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
>>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott, 

What drugs you taking dude?

 Linux ain't my bucket of chicken,

Windows is a differnet kettle of fish,
I can find my way around linux / unix but still not what I call fun.

Is there a windows version of Open VPN ?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 2:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could do 
it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
project.

I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a small 
configuration file for the server and one per client and then just push the 
config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the client software. 
 Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very powerful.  You can use 4096 
bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That will even give Uncle Sam and the 
tappers a run for their money.

I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is you 
only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point and or 
join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  You could 
also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.

Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear already 
set up.

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
> 
> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi!
> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
> to?
> This could be something to dig into.
> /A
>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage 
>> of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from 
>> Netflix for example.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
>>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although 
>>> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time 
>>> license fee would be preferred.
>>> 
>>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I 
>>> don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>>> 
>>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs 
>>> are good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
>>> internet activities.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
>>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
>>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>>> 
>>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 
>>> for the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on 
>>> any platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a 
>>> vpn I won't be able to use.
>>> 
>>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
>>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
>>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Well, if you mean your internal IP you can just reserve a DHCP reservation so 
it always receives the same IP in the lease.
If you mean your external IP, why not use dynamic DNS?  There are some 
providers that offer both free and paid solutions, google dynamic DNS providers 
or better yet go in to your router and see which services are provided as part 
of the feature.  You can then use an FQDN instead of an IP address for your 
configurations.

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
> 
> Scott
> 
> You mentioned writing a script for OpenVPN on a Rasberry Pi, below is a 
> script that I did and did not find very Screen Reader friendly.
> 
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36=137240
> 
> Now I have to redo now that i have switched my router. My roouter has a 
> dynamic IP. a Static IP is required.
> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Angus MacKinnon]

Scott

You mentioned writing a script for OpenVPN on a Rasberry Pi, below is a script 
that I did and did not find very Screen Reader friendly.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36=137240

Now I have to redo now that i have switched my router. My roouter has a dynamic 
IP. a Static IP is required.

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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Simon, for a highly skilled unix administrator like your self, you could do 
it in your sleep. As a newly and someone who wants to break in to unix 
administration like some on the list may be, a very easy but worth while 
project.

I could write something up for instructions but basically.  You use yum or 
apt-get install open vpn and the rsa kit for generating certs, you issue a 
certificate authority, use that to issue certs for your machine, write a small 
configuration file for the server and one per client and then just push the 
config and certs / keys to each client and load them in to the client software. 
 Most of this is automatic.  Very simple and very powerful.  You can use 4096 
bit keys or stronger and sha512 hashes.  That will even give Uncle Sam and the 
tappers a run for their money.

I think you could do this on a raspberry pie 3 no problem the only issue is you 
only have 1 ethernet so you’ll need to use the WiFi as an access point and or 
join the network with the WiFi and use the ethernet as the inside.  You could 
also install an ethernet USB dongle to add another wired port.

Also remember, nether routers include open vpn in their higher end gear already 
set up.

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
> 
> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi!
> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
> to?
> This could be something to dig into.
> /A
>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage 
>> of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from 
>> Netflix for example.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
>>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although
>>> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license
>>> fee would be preferred.
>>> 
>>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I
>>> don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>>> 
>>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
>>> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
>>> internet activities.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
>>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
>>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>>> 
>>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
>>> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
>>> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn
>>> I won't be able to use.
>>> 
>>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
>>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
>>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

Anders, yes you could install open VPN on a raspberry Pi.  You could use the 
WiFi side as the inside interface and the Ethernet as the outside.  I have not 
tried this but it should be possible.

> On Apr 2, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
> to?
> This could be something to dig into.
> /A
>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage 
>> of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from 
>> Netflix for example.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
>>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that
>>> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee
>>> would be preferred.
>>> 
>>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't
>>> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>>> 
>>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
>>> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
>>> internet activities.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
>>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
>>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>>> 
>>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
>>> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
>>> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I
>>> won't be able to use.
>>> 
>>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
>>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
>>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Christine Grassman]

Could someone please direct me to a site, book, tutorial for a VPN novice who 
would like to use one? I’ve been told that TorGuard, Vyper, and Mullvid are 
some of the few that do not have historical issues with leakage, that is, do 
not show all or part of your IP address. Naturally, though, I must be sure it 
works with VoiceOver, and I do not want to “mess anything up” as someone who is 
not much of a techie. I also would like to learn the basics like: What happens 
with your most visited web sites apps, and services if you use a VPN, such as 
iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, Jet, etc.? Do you have to shut it off when you use sites 
that save a shopping bag or where you have a watch list, etc.? Sorry for the 
ignorance, but I need a place to start, as I imagine most of the VPN info out 
there does not take VoiceOver and accessibility in general into account. I have 
been unable to find anything, for example, on how accessible and complicated 
the Tor browser is to set up as far as accessibility. 
Thanks for any help.
Christine

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:23 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> How complicated is open VPN to setup?
> 
> And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi!
> Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server 
> to?
> This could be something to dig into.
> /A
>> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
>> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
>> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients 
>> (windows as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage 
>> of not necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from 
>> Netflix for example.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
>>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although 
>>> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license 
>>> fee would be preferred.
>>> 
>>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I 
>>> don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>>> 
>>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are 
>>> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
>>> internet activities.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
>>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
>>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>>> 
>>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for 
>>> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any 
>>> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn 
>>> I won't be able to use.
>>> 
>>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
>>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
>>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

 How complicated is open VPN to setup?

 And yeah could it be setup on a raspberry pi 3?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Hi!
Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server to?
This could be something to dig into.
/A
> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients (windows 
> as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage of not 
> necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from Netflix for 
> example.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although 
>> that last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license 
>> fee would be preferred.
>> 
>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I 
>> don't want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>> 
>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are 
>> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
>> internet activities.
>> 
>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>> 
>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for 
>> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any 
>> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn 
>> I won't be able to use.
>> 
>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>> 
>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

Just wondering if you've looked at this from a slightly different angle,

 What about SSH?

 If you setup SSH to a machine at home or where ever it is your trying to 
connect using vpn, then connecting using that 
Might be a cheaper and easier option.

SSH is just a tick box on your mac,

Just another thought that might work for you also.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 3 April 2017 4:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing server 
cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  You can 
attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients (windows as well) 
that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage of not necessarily 
being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from Netflix for example.



> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that 
> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee 
> would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't 
> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are 
> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
> internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
> and had no joy on either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for 
> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any 
> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I 
> won't be able to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
> up my mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[M. Taylor]

I completely agree with you, Scott.  This would be my suggestion, as well.

Mark


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2017 9:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing server 
cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  You can 
attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients (windows as well) 
that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage of not necessarily 
being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from Netflix for example.



> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with 
> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that 
> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee 
> would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't 
> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are 
> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various 
> internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch 
> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows 
> and had no joy on either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for 
> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any 
> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I 
> won't be able to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make 
> up my mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, 
> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Does a server means that you can have a raspberry pi to act as a vpn server to?
This could be something to dig into.
/A
> 2 apr. 2017 kl. 18:23 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing 
> server cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  
> You can attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients (windows 
> as well) that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage of not 
> necessarily being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from Netflix for 
> example.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
>> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that
>> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee
>> would be preferred.
>> 
>> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't
>> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
>> 
>> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
>> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
>> internet activities.
>> 
>> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
>> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
>> and had no joy on either operating system...
>> 
>> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
>> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
>> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I
>> won't be able to use.
>> 
>> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
>> up my mind pretty quickly.
>> 
>> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
>> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Scott Granados]

My suggestion is to use Open VPN on a server. While you have the ongoing server 
cost as little as $5 per month, you do have a lot more flexibility.  You can 
attach your phone, tablets, or Mac with totally free clients (windows as well) 
that are totally accessible.  Y ou also have the advantage of not necessarily 
being in a VPN database so you’re not blocked from Netflix for example.



> On Apr 1, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that
> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee
> would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't
> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
> internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
> and had no joy on either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I
> won't be able to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
> up my mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[alia robinson]

I have, and it works flawlessly on mac and iphone. it’s about 44 dollars per 
year.
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Brian Hansen  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried Nord VPN? It's recommended by CNET. 

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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Brian Hansen]

Has anyone tried Nord VPN? It's recommended by CNET. 

Blessings,

Brian


> On Apr 2, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Try express vpn 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 3:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with voiceover 
> on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that last point is no 
> big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't want 
> to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are good, 
> it's not working on the older mac that I use for various internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch for some 
> reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows and had no joy on 
> either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for the 
> next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any platform 
> anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I won't be able 
> to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make up my 
> mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, any other 
> recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
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RE: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Simon Fogarty]

 Try express vpn 



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Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 3:30 PM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with voiceover 
on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that last point is no 
big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee would be preferred.

I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't want to 
pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.

I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are good, 
it's not working on the older mac that I use for various internet activities.

Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch for some 
reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows and had no joy on 
either operating system...

I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for the next 
two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any platform anywhere 
though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I won't be able to use.

This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make up my mind 
pretty quickly.

Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, any other 
recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Matthew Elliff]

I really like freedome by F secure. It's very fast, and there is a free trial 
to give it a try. I forget the monthly cost, but I am paying half of it with my 
brother for a year for multiple devices. It works great with my iPhone using 
voice over. There are other versions for windows and Mac, but I haven't tried 
them out. If you do, let me know if there are accessible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 10:30 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
> voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that
> last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee
> would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't
> want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
> good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
> internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
> for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
> and had no joy on either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
> the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
> platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I
> won't be able to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
> up my mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
> any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
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free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with
voiceover on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that
last point is no big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee
would be preferred.

I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't
want to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.

I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are
good, it's not working on the older mac that I use for various
internet activities.

Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch
for some reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows
and had no joy on either operating system...

I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for
the next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any
platform anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I
won't be able to use.

This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make
up my mind pretty quickly.

Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also,
any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Cameron.

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