Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Hi, In defence of Jenny, let me say this, in many, not all but many cases at least on the IPhone, there simply is no built in help or documentation for the program one is working with, at least that's my experience. I have seen a lot of cases, though i can't think of any at the moment where there's no reference to any documentation whatsoever in the app. At the risk of being flamed to bits, let me say that i have come late to this thread so may not know the whole story here, but answering a plee for help in an almost rude manner in my book is uncalled for. I left the Linux world because of that attitude, and even though it didn't hit me directly i felt sorry for the newbies that asked questions and got almost rude answers that in short said rtfm. Yes surely Google among other sources is your friend, but if you don't even begin to know what you are going to search for, how can you then begin searching? We have all been newbies in the beginning and have had different difficulty levels and different ways of tackling a problem. One bit of advice that i have followed and that has proven useful to me during my explorations of the graphical interface is this: If you want to learn to know your app, firstly take a look at its menus. There you will see what the app can do for you and you also in the bargain get the hot keys for different situations. Ok i'm off my soap box now and putting on flame proof clothes just in case. lol /Krister 5 maj 2012 kl. 22:28 skrev Ray Foret Jr: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Hi, No doubt your post has much good advice. But I think you should read the thread from the beginning before choosing sides in who was rude and why. Its hard enough to judge intent with just the written word without cheating yourself of reading the entire thread to get the context. etc. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 6, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, In defence of Jenny, let me say this, in many, not all but many cases at least on the IPhone, there simply is no built in help or documentation for the program one is working with, at least that's my experience. I have seen a lot of cases, though i can't think of any at the moment where there's no reference to any documentation whatsoever in the app. At the risk of being flamed to bits, let me say that i have come late to this thread so may not know the whole story here, but answering a plee for help in an almost rude manner in my book is uncalled for. I left the Linux world because of that attitude, and even though it didn't hit me directly i felt sorry for the newbies that asked questions and got almost rude answers that in short said rtfm. Yes surely Google among other sources is your friend, but if you don't even begin to know what you are going to search for, how can you then begin searching? We have all been newbies in the beginning and have had different difficulty levels and different ways of tackling a problem. One bit of advice that i have followed and that has proven useful to me during my explorations of the graphical interface is this: If you want to learn to know your app, firstly take a look at its menus. There you will see what the app can do for you and you also in the bargain get the hot keys for different situations. Ok i'm off my soap box now and putting on flame proof clothes just in case. lol /Krister 5 maj 2012 kl. 22:28 skrev Ray Foret Jr: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty
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Hi all, first off, this is not targeted toward anyone of you. Please let's close this thread now. If people would like to offer real assistance without social disagreement on manners and such, then please do feel free to start a new topic and keep it informational. Remember, this list is not a place to air arguments or issues you may have with others. If you don't like how someone answers a question or how someone poses one then simply refrain from writing back. Keep this sort of thing off the list. When you respond here do it with an informational post please keep social commentary out of it… This is not to say be automatons,:) but this is to say, do be aware that your words affect others; and in ways you may not expect. so please do the best you can to show only respect here. I ask you this so we can keep this list the wonderful, friendly informational resource we've all come to know and enjoy. K? Thanks to you all for reading and do have a wonderful day / evening! Smiles, Cara :) On May 6, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, No doubt your post has much good advice. But I think you should read the thread from the beginning before choosing sides in who was rude and why. Its hard enough to judge intent with just the written word without cheating yourself of reading the entire thread to get the context. etc. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 6, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, In defence of Jenny, let me say this, in many, not all but many cases at least on the IPhone, there simply is no built in help or documentation for the program one is working with, at least that's my experience. I have seen a lot of cases, though i can't think of any at the moment where there's no reference to any documentation whatsoever in the app. At the risk of being flamed to bits, let me say that i have come late to this thread so may not know the whole story here, but answering a plee for help in an almost rude manner in my book is uncalled for. I left the Linux world because of that attitude, and even though it didn't hit me directly i felt sorry for the newbies that asked questions and got almost rude answers that in short said rtfm. Yes surely Google among other sources is your friend, but if you don't even begin to know what you are going to search for, how can you then begin searching? We have all been newbies in the beginning and have had different difficulty levels and different ways of tackling a problem. One bit of advice that i have followed and that has proven useful to me during my explorations of the graphical interface is this: If you want to learn to know your app, firstly take a look at its menus. There you will see what the app can do for you and you also in the bargain get the hot keys for different situations. Ok i'm off my soap box now and putting on flame proof clothes just in case. lol /Krister 5 maj 2012 kl. 22:28 skrev Ray Foret Jr: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having
Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we could do without the emotional aspect of this. It ain't helpin' anybody. I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not. Some do, some don't. As for me, I ain't never goin' back to windows ever. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have
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thank you, I don't need, or want your attitude, or help at all. I think the moderator should see this and I intend to nake sure he does. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Wow. Excuse my language, but when did this list turn into a pissing contest? From what I read of this thread, all she was asking for was a simple answer. Unfortunately, I don't know said answer, so I never responded until reading these last few drama-filled crapfests. I do agree that Cara or another mod needs to step in, however. This is getting way out of hand. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast? thank you, I don't need, or want your attitude, or help at all. I think the moderator should see this and I intend to nake sure he does. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time
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I have worked in the Assistive Training field, and there is evidence that people have different ways of learning. I had some clients who needed their fingers placed on the keys in order to get the hang of a concept, and others who just asked me to leave them alone for half an hour while they practiced. My guess is, Jenny, that you may need individual training. Depending on the warranty that came with your Mac, you may be able to get individualized training at an Apple Store or from an Access Tech Trainer. I think you might benefit from this a lot. The problem with a list like this is that it mostly lends itself to quick answers for quick questions. If questions are stated clearly and coherently, with a specific task in mind, it's easier to help the questioner. If the question is too vague or there are too many in one post, it's difficult for both the questioner and the person responding to make sense of everything. When I send a question to the list, I ask myself: what specifically do I want to accomplish. If I'm so confused that I'm not sure what to do first, or if I'm very frustrated, taking a break from the situation without posting helps me gain perspective on my problem. hTh, Teresa On May 5, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we could do without the emotional aspect of this. It ain't helpin' anybody. I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not. Some do, some don't. As for me, I ain't never goin' back to windows ever. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Fine, since everyone else can ask questions and not be abused and berated on this list. I'll be happy to unsubscribe. As far as using some kind of help and trying the aps out, that's what I've tried to do and that's when I get stuck. If I knew of any help thing to look up things on I would. Since I'm too stupid to be on this list I'm out of here. On May 5, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we could do without the emotional aspect of this. It ain't helpin' anybody. I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not. Some do, some don't. As for me, I ain't never goin' back to windows ever. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Scott Howell wrote: FIrst let me tell you lady I am anything but lazy and I think a lot of people have made a considerable amount of effort to help you on this list. You know Jenny with that damned attitude you cannot possibly expect help. FOr the love of God can't you at least indicate that you tried to find the bloddy answer first THe way you ask all of your questions indicates to me that you have not even attempted to look at the help files etc. You do know how to use the search facilities on GOogle do you not? Do you know how to use the help facilities in the application? You know some of your questions are so confusing that it is not even clear what you are talking about at times. I should know better than to even waste time encouraging you to do the research because this is exactly the type of response I should expect. You most definitely come across as though you want to be fed the information just in the way you post your messages. No one minds helping you, but at least demonstrate you have tried. As far as the podcast is concerned I am truly unclear as to how you become more confused. You talk about how it is not the way you learn, so then explain how you do learn. You cannot expect folks on the list to know your learning style and sit down to write mini tutorials with step 1 open the application etc. If that is what you want then say so, otherwise how does anyone know how to feed you information. So I guess I'll just be to lazy to lower myself to help you in the future and your crappy attitude certainly took care of that. Good luck, you're going to need it. On May 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I
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Hi all, I'm not seeing the family and friends stuff that she's seeing. I wonder if this is a new feature in Lion. I do have delegates on the left hand side, as well as work or home calendars. I don't have any family or friend options. I'm guessing this is a new feature of iCal in 10.7. I'm still running 10.6.8 here. It could explain why more people aren't seeing this, and thus, don't know the answer. On May 5, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
there are new components in iCal for OS X lion and some of which are a little on the unnecessary. I'm investigating this issue at present and will have some useful answers to all concerned in 24 hours. lew On 5 May 2012, at 22:04, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote: Hi all, I'm not seeing the family and friends stuff that she's seeing. I wonder if this is a new feature in Lion. I do have delegates on the left hand side, as well as work or home calendars. I don't have any family or friend options. I'm guessing this is a new feature of iCal in 10.7. I'm still running 10.6.8 here. It could explain why more people aren't seeing this, and thus, don't know the answer. On May 5, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell me what I need till my mind is so overloaded that I can't absorb any more information. Anyway, could someone just tell me in baby steps what all that is for and if you have my number, just call if you want to. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Ray, you are correct. My anger is the fact that I'm being called lazy and I can't bother to lower myself to answer the question. So, could I have handled that better perhaps so; however, I do not regret what I said. So, I have nothing further to say on the issue. On May 5, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: You know, Scot, I agree with most all your points; but, I really do believe we could do without the emotional aspect of this. It ain't helpin' anybody. I guess maybe she'll either catch on or not. Some do, some don't. As for me, I ain't never goin' back to windows ever. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I mostly use the home calendar, since I'm at home most of the time. There are other items in the calendar list, such as Facebook, ICloud, Gmail, and Meetup. I think these were added when I added activities from these categories to ICal. I'm using Lion, and I still haven't come across Friends and Family. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On May 5, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: there are new components in iCal for OS X lion and some of which are a little on the unnecessary. I'm investigating this issue at present and will have some useful answers to all concerned in 24 hours. lew On 5 May 2012, at 22:04, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote: Hi all, I'm not seeing the family and friends stuff that she's seeing. I wonder if this is a new feature in Lion. I do have delegates on the left hand side, as well as work or home calendars. I don't have any family or friend options. I'm guessing this is a new feature of iCal in 10.7. I'm still running 10.6.8 here. It could explain why more people aren't seeing this, and thus, don't know the answer. On May 5, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and how quickly. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience anyone with my question. As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more frustrated and confused than I started out. If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod cast. That, in my opinion, is taking the lazy way out anyway, cause it prevents you from having to lower yourself to answer such a simple and insignificant question. Again, what is this list for if you can't get simple and understandable answers to simple questions. If I wanted a pod cast, I would've looked one up. Excuse me for bothering those of you that are just too good to answer my simple question. Again, I'll just not say anything and again, if I can't get answers to simple questions, but others do't get treated that way, then this list will certainly leave my inbox. Jenny On May 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Have you tried reading the help files? THey contain a lot of information and there is also Google. You really expect someone to produce a step-by-step tutorial on iCal just for you? No offense, but it seems to me that you have not researched the questions very thoroughly on your own and just want to be spoon-fed the information. Asking for help is fine and encouraged, but it seems that you would ask only when you have already tried finding the answers elsewhere. There are plenty of resources and the podcast someone suggested is a great way to learn how to use an app. Of course then you seem to get cross with folks because they won't just give you what you want when you want it and I hope you understand you are being unfair to those who are providing you the resources. On May 5, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: I need to know what those lists like friends and family, and stuff are for. I don't understand all that stuff, though I did learn how to delete a reminder. I have a list of reminders and all of them are coming up though I thought I had other reminders. I don't see any old ones though. Anyway, Pod Casts give me too much information at one time and a lot of it I already know, or don't understand in the first place cause it's too advanced for me, or doesn't tell
Re: Ical question
Hello Marc, To create a new event in iCal, press Cmd-n then type something like: Dental appointment on Friday March 2nd at 3:30 pm, then press Return. iCal will format the event for you and you can add bits or change things by navigating right to the scroll area, where you interact. Here you'll find all the possible fields, including the menu for selecting the appropriate calendar. To go to a particular date, press Cmd-Shift-t and start typing the date you want. iCal will autofill the field and you can adjust it to what you want, then press Return. To look at the week's events, interact with the grid. Navigate using the VO keys and you'll hear something like Monday 2 events. Tuesday list. Where it just says List, there are no events. To look at the events on a particular day, interact with the list. HTH, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi: Set your calendar to view by day, that way you can see your events. I believe there is a table to the left of the calendar that has a list events. On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: Hi Kawal, No problem. I suspected you might be referring to the addressbook. It seems like there is a lot of interacting necessary in order to browse a calendar. I will see if the iphone app is more efficient. On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Oh Mark, I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the calendar for no good reason. But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to interact again with the information once you find an entry that you want to read. I normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than my Mac although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and when putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right tro where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are all filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, then vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the information. Again please accept my apology. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
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Thanks for this tip. I notice that working pretty well except that as i command-right-arrow through dates, if there is an event on a particular date, voiceover doesn't tell me that fact unless i move back to the events list. It would be nice if there were some indication. I wonder if there is some voiceover setting or other trick that could be employed to get this info spoken. Marc On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: Set your calendar to view by day, that way you can see your events. I believe there is a table to the left of the calendar that has a list events. On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: Hi Kawal, No problem. I suspected you might be referring to the addressbook. It seems like there is a lot of interacting necessary in order to browse a calendar. I will see if the iphone app is more efficient. On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Oh Mark, I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the calendar for no good reason. But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to interact again with the information once you find an entry that you want to read. I normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than my Mac although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and when putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right tro where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are all filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, then vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the information. Again please accept my apology. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Ical question
Hi Anne, Thanks for your ical tips. Do you know of a quick way to get to the grid of dates? Once in add event mode things get a little unpredictable. Thanks. Marc On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Marc, To create a new event in iCal, press Cmd-n then type something like: Dental appointment on Friday March 2nd at 3:30 pm, then press Return. iCal will format the event for you and you can add bits or change things by navigating right to the scroll area, where you interact. Here you'll find all the possible fields, including the menu for selecting the appropriate calendar. To go to a particular date, press Cmd-Shift-t and start typing the date you want. iCal will autofill the field and you can adjust it to what you want, then press Return. To look at the week's events, interact with the grid. Navigate using the VO keys and you'll hear something like Monday 2 events. Tuesday list. Where it just says List, there are no events. To look at the events on a particular day, interact with the list. HTH, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello Marc, You can get to the first day in the grid by pressing VO-Cmd-x (go to next list). Cheers, Anne On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:33, Marc Sutton wrote: Hi Anne, Thanks for your ical tips. Do you know of a quick way to get to the grid of dates? Once in add event mode things get a little unpredictable. Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Oh Mark, I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the calendar for no good reason. But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to interact again with the information once you find an entry that you want to read. I normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than my Mac although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and when putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right tro where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are all filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, then vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the information. Again please accept my apology. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Ical question
Hi Kawal, No problem. I suspected you might be referring to the addressbook. It seems like there is a lot of interacting necessary in order to browse a calendar. I will see if the iphone app is more efficient. On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Oh Mark, I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the calendar for no good reason. But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to interact again with the information once you find an entry that you want to read. I normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than my Mac although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and when putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right tro where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are all filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, then vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the information. Again please accept my apology. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Ical question
Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kiwal, I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu choice for this under view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Mark. I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your calendar entries. Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Creating Calendars in iCal Question
Hi guys: When I attempt to create a new Calendar, It just says untitled. I cannot create a title for my calendar. I cannot even edit it, just delete. I tried creating on my Mac, and under iCloud with no luck. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Creating Calendars in iCal Question
Sarai, I do not have any problems with creating and changing the names of calendars. Follow these steps: 1. Go to the menu/File/New Calendar (a submenu). 2. Choose where you want the calendar. 3. The popover appears and you need to interact with the calendar table. 4. Navigate to Column two and interact with the Untitled name. 5. Begin typing over or erase and insert your own text. I hope that helps. On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi guys: When I attempt to create a new Calendar, It just says untitled. I cannot create a title for my calendar. I cannot even edit it, just delete. I tried creating on my Mac, and under iCloud with no luck. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ICal question
I figured it out. Turns out I had the show all day events box checked. Thanks for the help though. Jes On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Try command-1 for day view and perhaps this will help or command-2 for week view. hth Scott On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Jes Smith wrote: Hi all, Something really strange is happening with ICal. Whenever I create an event and then scroll to the particular date on which that event falls, I can't get the events corresponding to that day. For example, if I have an event at 3 pm on April 15th, I go to April 15, but don't see the event for just that day. Any help? Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ICal question
Hi all, Something really strange is happening with ICal. Whenever I create an event and then scroll to the particular date on which that event falls, I can't get the events corresponding to that day. For example, if I have an event at 3 pm on April 15th, I go to April 15, but don't see the event for just that day. Any help? Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ICal question
Try command-1 for day view and perhaps this will help or command-2 for week view. hth Scott On Mar 23, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Jes Smith wrote: Hi all, Something really strange is happening with ICal. Whenever I create an event and then scroll to the particular date on which that event falls, I can't get the events corresponding to that day. For example, if I have an event at 3 pm on April 15th, I go to April 15, but don't see the event for just that day. Any help? Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ical question/problem
Hello all, I use Ical for all my events/appointments and this works, not perfect but enough for me. One of the problems I have is that , I think only past events, are poping up on my screen also if I am in another program then Ical. If someone recognizes this situation, it would be very nice to know how I can set ical not to do this. Of course, when a reminder is coming up, I would like to see that reminder. Thanx for your help, best regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ical question/problem
1. Are you sure that the timezone is set for your location? 2. You could change the time in advance that you want to be notified. 3. You could (though I don't particularily recommend it) set up a notification that calls an APpleScript. That Apple Script could minumize all windows or use the say function to talk to you for example. Jon Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Feb 27, 2011, at 5:12 PM, William Windels wrote: Hello all, I use Ical for all my events/appointments and this works, not perfect but enough for me. One of the problems I have is that , I think only past events, are poping up on my screen also if I am in another program then Ical. If someone recognizes this situation, it would be very nice to know how I can set ical not to do this. Of course, when a reminder is coming up, I would like to see that reminder. Thanx for your help, best regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ical question
hi all, i wanted to try my hand at ical, but do not see the box where you enter the beginning and ending time for appointments. as for the settings i switched to the day view as opposed to the week view. are there any other settings i should change to more effectively use ical? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ical question
Hi there. I am not fully adept at customizing iCal myself at this point, but can work it well enough to make good use of it anyway. To create an event, just press command-n, and then press command-E to edit the new event. There, you can give it a title, location, date/time, set alarms, etc. Just tab to Done when you are through, and the new event will automatically sort itself into the correct place on your calendar. Just a quick note from my own experience, when tabbing through the Edit Event box, the list boxes for the month, date, year and time do not read automatically. Once I tab to a field that doesn't read, I just use my arrow keys to get voiceover to announce the highlighted selection in the list. -- Jenny Wood Phone: (972) 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:16 PM, denise avant wrote: hi all, i wanted to try my hand at ical, but do not see the box where you enter the beginning and ending time for appointments. as for the settings i switched to the day view as opposed to the week view. are there any other settings i should change to more effectively use ical? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
Hi. In my office, I am the only Mac user. Everyone else uses Outlook running Windows to keep track of their appointments. Furthermore, they send out appointment notifications via e-mail that all of us are supposed to put into our work calendars. Is there an easy way for me to send them my appointments and have them appear in their Outlook calendars as well as theirs automatically appearing in iCal? Thank you, Mike On 20,Aug,2010, at 2:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote: No problem Mark and I am not an iCal expert, but it does work incredibly well. I know some have seen old data hanging around and all of this can be configured via the preferences (command-comma). There may be a good book, but most of what I have learned came as a result of my desire to switch to the Mac at work. Oh and of course my failing memory and an angry wife because I could not remember all those dates. :) On Aug 19, 2010, at 5:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Scott, Thank you so much. Following your excellent instructions, I realize that I did not uncheck the All Day Checkbox. All is working perfectly, now. Thank you ever so much. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, Follow these steps, I think it will help you. 1. command-n to create a new event. 2. command-i for inspector. 3. you first are on the title of the event, navigate right with VO and interact with the details scroll area. 4. first field is location, followed by all day checkbox, then you encounter as you navigate to the right, the From field. (NOTE: make sure the all day checkbox is not checked. If it is, you will not see the time in the date field. You instead will only see the date.) 5. Navigate to the right until you hear the date and interact to set the date/time. 6. Next will be the end date/time. (NOTE: again, make sure the all day checkbox is not checked or you will only see the date, not the hours.) 7. Next you may have a timezone popup assuming you have set this option in preferences. 8. You will encounter the Repeat options. 9. Show as option. 10. Calendar (On which calendar the event is to be recorded). 11. Alarm/notification options follow. 12. Another alarm option. 13. Invitees options. 14. Place for a URL. 15. A place to type notes. Command w to save. hth, On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hi, What I am saying is that I cannot find the Start and End time fields. Yes, I know this is hard to believe but, I swear, I cannot locate these fields. All I can find is the Start and Ending date fields. The steps I am taking to create a new event are: 1. From within iCal, while focused on the Canvas area, I Tap Command+N. 2. This brings up a New Event Text Box in which I type in the Appointment Info such as Eye Doctor Appointment. 3. Then, I open the Inspector and enter more details including the Start and End Dates. Nowhere do I see the Start and Ending Time fields. Clearly there is another way to create a new event but I don't know what it is. Thank you all for helping me on this one. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
An iCal Question
Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
What happens when you interact with the date and time field and use vo and and down? Take care. On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
Sara I do not understand your question. If he is interacting with the date/time field, the values in the field change and VO will verbalize the information. If I understand Mark correctly, he wants to see some field/information that indicates the length of an event. If that is so, there is no such field to the best of my knowledge. Actually if you are looking at an event, which has already been created, the to and from fields are the only fields I suspect you will see. So, whether you are creating or viewing an event, the to/from fields seem to be the only indicators of date/time. On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: What happens when you interact with the date and time field and use vo and and down? Take care. On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
Hi, What I am saying is that I cannot find the Start and End time fields. Yes, I know this is hard to believe but, I swear, I cannot locate these fields. All I can find is the Start and Ending date fields. The steps I am taking to create a new event are: 1. From within iCal, while focused on the Canvas area, I Tap Command+N. 2. This brings up a New Event Text Box in which I type in the Appointment Info such as Eye Doctor Appointment. 3. Then, I open the Inspector and enter more details including the Start and End Dates. Nowhere do I see the Start and Ending Time fields. Clearly there is another way to create a new event but I don't know what it is. Thank you all for helping me on this one. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
Hello Scott, Thank you so much. Following your excellent instructions, I realize that I did not uncheck the All Day Checkbox. All is working perfectly, now. Thank you ever so much. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, Follow these steps, I think it will help you. 1. command-n to create a new event. 2. command-i for inspector. 3. you first are on the title of the event, navigate right with VO and interact with the details scroll area. 4. first field is location, followed by all day checkbox, then you encounter as you navigate to the right, the From field. (NOTE: make sure the all day checkbox is not checked. If it is, you will not see the time in the date field. You instead will only see the date.) 5. Navigate to the right until you hear the date and interact to set the date/time. 6. Next will be the end date/time. (NOTE: again, make sure the all day checkbox is not checked or you will only see the date, not the hours.) 7. Next you may have a timezone popup assuming you have set this option in preferences. 8. You will encounter the Repeat options. 9. Show as option. 10. Calendar (On which calendar the event is to be recorded). 11. Alarm/notification options follow. 12. Another alarm option. 13. Invitees options. 14. Place for a URL. 15. A place to type notes. Command w to save. hth, On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hi, What I am saying is that I cannot find the Start and End time fields. Yes, I know this is hard to believe but, I swear, I cannot locate these fields. All I can find is the Start and Ending date fields. The steps I am taking to create a new event are: 1. From within iCal, while focused on the Canvas area, I Tap Command+N. 2. This brings up a New Event Text Box in which I type in the Appointment Info such as Eye Doctor Appointment. 3. Then, I open the Inspector and enter more details including the Start and End Dates. Nowhere do I see the Start and Ending Time fields. Clearly there is another way to create a new event but I don't know what it is. Thank you all for helping me on this one. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An iCal Question
No problem Mark and I am not an iCal expert, but it does work incredibly well. I know some have seen old data hanging around and all of this can be configured via the preferences (command-comma). There may be a good book, but most of what I have learned came as a result of my desire to switch to the Mac at work. Oh and of course my failing memory and an angry wife because I could not remember all those dates. :) On Aug 19, 2010, at 5:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Scott, Thank you so much. Following your excellent instructions, I realize that I did not uncheck the All Day Checkbox. All is working perfectly, now. Thank you ever so much. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, Follow these steps, I think it will help you. 1. command-n to create a new event. 2. command-i for inspector. 3. you first are on the title of the event, navigate right with VO and interact with the details scroll area. 4. first field is location, followed by all day checkbox, then you encounter as you navigate to the right, the From field. (NOTE: make sure the all day checkbox is not checked. If it is, you will not see the time in the date field. You instead will only see the date.) 5. Navigate to the right until you hear the date and interact to set the date/time. 6. Next will be the end date/time. (NOTE: again, make sure the all day checkbox is not checked or you will only see the date, not the hours.) 7. Next you may have a timezone popup assuming you have set this option in preferences. 8. You will encounter the Repeat options. 9. Show as option. 10. Calendar (On which calendar the event is to be recorded). 11. Alarm/notification options follow. 12. Another alarm option. 13. Invitees options. 14. Place for a URL. 15. A place to type notes. Command w to save. hth, On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hi, What I am saying is that I cannot find the Start and End time fields. Yes, I know this is hard to believe but, I swear, I cannot locate these fields. All I can find is the Start and Ending date fields. The steps I am taking to create a new event are: 1. From within iCal, while focused on the Canvas area, I Tap Command+N. 2. This brings up a New Event Text Box in which I type in the Appointment Info such as Eye Doctor Appointment. 3. Then, I open the Inspector and enter more details including the Start and End Dates. Nowhere do I see the Start and Ending Time fields. Clearly there is another way to create a new event but I don't know what it is. Thank you all for helping me on this one. Mark On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Mark, the only fields I am aware of is the start and end times for an event. Are you saying there should be a field that specifically states the event will be one hour or are you saying there is a field where you can indicate length of time versus a specific end time in hours/minutes? On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:16 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, When I create a new event in iCal, I cannot seem to locate the fields that determines how long the event will last. All I can see in the inspector is the date fields. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
iCal question
Hi guys: I've figured out how to create calendars, and add events to Calendars; however all of my appointments are showing up in the canvass area. I've tried to show the work calendar only, but my personal appointments are showing up as well. How can I se only one calendar at a time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iCal question
You can VO left arrow one time from the canvas area, there you will hear calendar list. Interact with the list and you can check and uncheck the calendars you wish to view. Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi guys: I've figured out how to create calendars, and add events to Calendars; however all of my appointments are showing up in the canvass area. I've tried to show the work calendar only, but my personal appointments are showing up as well. How can I se only one calendar at a time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iCal question
that check box didn't have a help tag.Thanks! On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: You can VO left arrow one time from the canvas area, there you will hear calendar list. Interact with the list and you can check and uncheck the calendars you wish to view. Brett C. On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi guys: I've figured out how to create calendars, and add events to Calendars; however all of my appointments are showing up in the canvass area. I've tried to show the work calendar only, but my personal appointments are showing up as well. How can I se only one calendar at a time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ical question: sending email to another person
Ok this might be a stupid question alert but here goes. I'm trying to, or wanting to send an email to someone else in my contacts from ical listening my events. Can this be done? I only saw mine I can forward it but tthat wold leave mor ework on my part and I might forget to do it. Thanks. Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com msn: chell...@hotmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/feeds -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
