Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  At all other times, 
it's essentially required that you have speech, which is really no good for 
anything except reading numbers over the phone.

And peace and quiet is right.  There's nothing quite like getting the computer 
to do what you want it to do, quietly, peacefully, and happily.  I'll play text 
adventures or read quite tirelessly in computer braille, just for the sheer 
beauty of it.

But there are legitimate questions about fatigue and efficiency, too.  I accept 
that braille has a recreational value for me, which is how I like it, thank you 
very much.  Others will naturally find differently.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently,
 but I was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic. 

I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to keys
as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most router 
now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
 text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  

Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.

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Re: Good iPhone app for recording audio snippets

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi, Paul,

Since I wasn’t looking for a recording app, I almost deleted your message 
before even reading it.  However, I’m very, very glad that I didn’t.  I 
purchased List Recorder from the Austrian app store yesterday and thus far, I 
am delighted with the app.  It was also a real pleasure hearing Neal Ewers once 
again—a real bonus.

In your note, you mentioned that List Recorder recorded in MP3 format.  When I 
went into the settings I was unable to find the setting for MP3 recording 
rates.  Could you let me know, please, if those settings are somewhere, other 
than the other recording settings where WAV and M4A are options?

Another question: I have done virtually no recording with my iPhone 4S.  Are 
the unit’s built-in microphones good enough for decent stereo recordings and, 
if not, is it possible to use binaural microphones with the unit?

Thank you very much in advance for your input,

Mike

On 22,Jun,2014, at 17:31, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 If looping audio is not your priority, and you are just looking for a good 
 recorder for your iphone that lets you organize your recordings into nice 
 folders, and which is  also completely VoiceOver accessible, then you could 
 take a look at list recorder. I'm using it all day. To rehurse my tenor parts 
 for the choir I'm in, to create short shopping lists, I keep a list of how to 
 operate our washing machine which has a display, how to operate the dish 
 washer etc, notes on things to do or remember etc, or send an audio event I 
 happen to be in, to someone else by email or IMessage., like a private audio 
 boo. It records in wav, in mp3, in m4a and in caf. Also, moving recording 
 from the phone to your computer can be done via dropbox if you want. When I 
 need more space on the phone, I just upload stuff to dropbox from list 
 recorder, so that I can delete it there. Once it's in dropbox, I can clip and 
 edit it on the mac and then store it for future use.
 
 List recorder was created with lists of recordings in mind. I initially used 
 it as such, but I found it to be such an excellent, multi-purpose  handy 
 tool, that I use it whenever recording something near me is appropriate. It's 
 by sixth mode solutions. The developer is devoted to providing good VoiceOver 
 support.
 Just look in the iphone app store.
 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:36 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 What about the app Jimmy Fallon used with Billy Joel on the Tonight Show 
 called Loopy? Dunno if it's accessible though and it's $8.
 
 http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/21/5532944/jimmy-fallon-billy-joel-sing-duet-with-ipad-app
 
 http://loopyapp.com
 
 CB
 
 On 6/18/14, 10:08 AM, Jessica D wrote:
 What about garage band? It can do this.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I want to record short guitar riffs and progressions on the iPhone, and 
 then be able to easily play them back - perhaps looping them if desired. 
 Kind of like an audio scratchpad with looping capabilities. The built-in 
 voice recorder app is not quite up to speed for my needs, but something 
 like that app would work.
 
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.
 
 Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive
 
 This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
 Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
 A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
 take up at least this space.
 A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
 Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.
 
 Instructions
 1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
 Important!
 After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App 
 Store the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will 
 be erased upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of 
 the installer where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
 2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
 image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
 arrow keys and press command-o for open.
 3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
 command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
 folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
 the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
 windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
 first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
 5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
 6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications 
 folder.
 7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
 vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With QuickNav 
 enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
 button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
 activate.
 Note
 By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
 control-option.
 8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
 operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
 9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
 GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
 your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
 Note
 If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
 volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
 Tip
 Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
 cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
 10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
 busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
 work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
 makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
 11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk 
 preferences so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated 
 bootable USB flash drive and test your creations. You are also invited to 
 make a donation to the developers which is in fact the default button so 
 pressing return will open your browser allowing you to make such a donation. 
 Finally there is a quit button which does what it says; quit the application. 
 Let's then click the open Start-up Disk Preferences button.
 12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your 
 bootable USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop 
 interacting with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and 
 stop interact with VoiceOver do one of the following:
 A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop 
 interacting.
 B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
 This is assuming QuickNav is enabled with left-right arrows.
 13. Click restart button again to confirm you want to restart the computer.
 14. Your USB flash drive should now boot up and eventually display the Mac OS 
 X Utilities with the applications table having keyboard focus. How long it 
 takes depends on your USB flash drive. On my Verbatim 64 GB USB flash drive 
 it takes about thirty seconds.
 15. To enable the whole operation to talk and output to Braille if you have 
 such facilities requires starting VoiceOver. To do this press command-F5. You 
 may hear a different voice than what you're used to. This is because in 
 effect a temporary copy of VoiceOver used for 

Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi. 

I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need the 
metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an app that 
let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not music score 
time signatures.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mike

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transferring contacts to a family member

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she is 
still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new apple id 
for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she might see what 
im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way to send her all 
his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 24 Jun 2014, at 09:02, Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net wrote:
 Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
 text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  
 
 Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
 it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.

I haven't tried it since Leopard, so I couldn't say, however the driver 
interface meant that it was extremely limited anyway.  I have since taken to 
the song and dance of configuring VMWare to pass through my USB braille device 
(BrailleNote Apex) to a Linux VM, and then pulling and re-plugging quickly 
enough after starting a VM for it to be detected and used by Linux.  Until 
VMWare pull their finger out and provide a proper way to interface serial 
devices, either to physical or software via sockets, this will have to suffice. 
 But it's worth it.  Not only is Linux a great way to get and install software, 
but it's trivial to ssh back into the Mac to get what CLI support is available 
from that platform (which I must say appears to be in a very sharp decline in 
recent times).

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
 router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router

Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, or 
buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is actually 
supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the modem is part 
of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from the ISP and can 
be AirPort.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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RE: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Scott Erichsen
Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014 7:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

Hi. 

I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread alia robinson
I have used the focus display a little bit, but the braille edge is the one I'm 
getting if I get one. I want to be able to store books on it. 

The hand-copied thermaform braille is torture. I had to read a book for school 
once with it, and I litterally had to ask for an extension on the final 
assignment my fingers were so messed up. 

I just hope with this new release mac adds some braille options or at least 
improves some people are unhappy with. thanks for the comments. 

Alia
On Jun 23, 2014, at 8:57 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:

 I know that braille displays made braille accessible to me in a way that 
 revitalized my interest in using it.  I found a single line at a time much 
 less daunting than a 5 or 10 volume bralle book.  As for thermoform... Don't 
 get me started, especially in the muggy south west ontario summer.
 
 When I first wen back to braille on receiving a braille display, my fingers 
 got very irritated.  I actually went to some braille proofers and asked if I 
 was likely to lose sensitivity by reading too much.  After they reassured me 
 I went nuts.  My fingers never actually bled though.  If you are experiencing 
 that, then your choice of braille display is extremely important and you will 
 want to make sure that the one you get is going to be gentle on your fingers. 
  Of the four models I have personally used and trained on, I think that the 
 braille edge has the smoothest most comfortable dots, but this could be 
 entirely subjective.

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 I haven't tried it since Leopard, so I couldn't say, however the driver
 interface meant that it was extremely limited anyway.  I have since taken to
 the song and dance of configuring VMWare to pass through my USB braille
 device (BrailleNote Apex) to a Linux VM, and then pulling and re-plugging
 quickly enough after starting a VM for it to be detected and used by Linux.
 Until VMWare pull their finger out and provide a proper way to interface
 serial devices, either to physical or software via sockets, this will have
 to suffice.  But it's worth it.  

It might be easier for those with genuine USB braille displays rather than
serial. Mine has USB, serial and Bluetooth interfaces.
 Not only is Linux a great way to get and
 install software, but it's trivial to ssh back into the Mac to get what CLI
 support is available from that platform (which I must say appears to be in a
 very sharp decline in recent times).

I've been using Linux for everything since 1998 or so, but decided this time
to buy a MacBook, partly for the hardware specifications, which are excellent,
and partly to try a different software environment that's nevertheless still
UNIX.

I'm still very much at the stage of having to search the Web a lot for
information as I come to terms with an unfamiliar operating system and its
supplied applications.

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Re: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom

Hi, Scott.

I downloaded the app and although several of the buttons are unlabelled, the 
app will do exactly what I want it to do.  The app is also free.

Another good thing about the app is that it will run while other audio apps are 
running, provided you launch TempoPerfect last.  By the way, the spelling of 
the app is TempoPerfect.

This app meets the bill.

Thank you very much and best regards,

Mike


On 24,Jun,2014, at 11:41, Scott Erichsen serich...@scotterichsen.com wrote:

 Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014 7:06 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?
 
 Hi. 
 
 I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
 the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
 app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
 music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi, David,

Wow, there's a name from the past.  My name is Mike Busboom, and we 
corresponded with one another in an earlier life.

I went to your website, and I will go back frequently.

Welcome to the list.  I'm still in Vienna after all these years.

Mike

On 19,Jun,2014, at 21:06, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
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 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.

Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive

This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
take up at least this space.
A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
http://liondiskmaker.com/
The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.

Instructions
1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
Important!
After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App Store 
the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will be erased 
upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of the installer 
where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
arrow keys and press command-o for open.
3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications folder.
7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With QuickNav 
enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
activate.
Note
By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
control-option.
8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
Note
If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
Tip
Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk preferences 
so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated bootable USB flash 
drive and test your creations. You are also invited to make a donation to the 
developers which is in fact the default button so pressing return will open 
your browser allowing you to make such a donation. Finally there is a quit 
button which does what it says; quit the application. Let's then click the open 
Start-up Disk Preferences button.
12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your bootable 
USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop interacting 
with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and stop interact 
with VoiceOver do one of the following:
A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop interacting.
B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
This is assuming QuickNav is enabled with left-right arrows.
13. Click restart button again to confirm you want to restart the computer.
14. Your USB flash drive should now boot up and eventually display the Mac OS X 
Utilities with the applications table having keyboard focus. How long it takes 
depends on your USB flash drive. On my Verbatim 64 GB USB flash drive it takes 
about thirty seconds.
15. To enable the whole operation to talk and output to Braille if you have 
such facilities requires starting VoiceOver. To do this press command-F5. You 

Re: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Phil Halton
An interesting note about setting the tempo: a three finger swipe in the tempo 
picker will move by 8 or 10 bpm instead of just one at a time with a dingle 
finger swipe.

On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi, Scott.
 
 I downloaded the app and although several of the buttons are unlabelled, the 
 app will do exactly what I want it to do.  The app is also free.
 
 Another good thing about the app is that it will run while other audio apps 
 are running, provided you launch TempoPerfect last.  By the way, the spelling 
 of the app is TempoPerfect.
 
 This app meets the bill.
 
 Thank you very much and best regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
 On 24,Jun,2014, at 11:41, Scott Erichsen serich...@scotterichsen.com wrote:
 
 Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014 7:06 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?
 
 Hi. 
 
 I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
 the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
 app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
 music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Jessica
what are the advantages of doing this?
what are the disadvantages as well?
why would someone want to create a bootible drive?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
 can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? 
 and please tell me how, thanks in advance
 dionipher
 On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.
 
 Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive
 
 This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to 
 install Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
 A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other 
 files take up at least this space.
 A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available 
 from
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
 Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.
 
 Instructions
 1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
 Important!
 After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App 
 Store the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will 
 be erased upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of 
 the installer where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
 2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in 
 the image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file 
 with just arrow keys and press command-o for open.
 3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
 command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your 
 applications folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, 
 command-shift-a to open the Applications folder and command-v to paste. 
 Once copied close all Finder windows with command-w so you're at the 
 desktop and eject the disk image by first highlighting it with just arrow 
 keys and press command-e for eject.
 5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
 6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications 
 folder.
 7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
 vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With quickness 
 enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
 button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
 activate.
 Note
 By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
 control-option.
 8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
 operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
 9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 
 8 GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make 
 sure your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
 Note
 If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
 volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
 Tip
 Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
 cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
 10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about 
 any busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just 
 doing its work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when 
 prompted. VoiceOver makes a clicking type sound when in password text 
 fields.
 11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk 
 preferences so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated 
 bootable USB flash drive and test your creations. You are also invited to 
 make a donation to the developers which is in fact the default button so 
 pressing return will open your browser allowing you to make such a 
 donation. Finally there is a quit button which does what it says; quit the 
 application. Let's then click the open Start-up Disk Preferences button.
 12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your 
 bootable USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop 
 interacting with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and 
 stop interact with VoiceOver do one of the following:
 A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop 
 interacting.
 B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop 
 interacting. This is assuming quickness is enabled with left-right arrows.
 13. Click restart button again to confirm you want to restart the computer.
 14. Your USB flash drive should now boot up and eventually display the Mac 
 OS X 

audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
here can help. 

I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. I 
want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 

Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to the 
Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken up by 
the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not go 
with a small USB mixer instead?


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
 here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
 I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
 computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
 up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. Something like one of the alesis multi mix USB mixers would work for that.

Cameron.





On 6/24/14, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not
 go with a small USB mixer instead?


 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
 built-in!

 On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe
 someone here can help.

 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in
 input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things
 like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic.

 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected
 to the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be
 taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :)
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a more 
practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not 
 go with a small USB mixer instead?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
 here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
 input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
 like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
 up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Erik Heil
 Hello,
One important thing mentioning here is that if you go with a USB mixer, you
will eliminate the analog to digital conversion step that will be used if
you use a tradational line-in mixer. Now this isn't saying that you will
notice any degraded audio, but this may become a problem. Also, if you
chose to go with a USB mixer, you will not experience any hums and other
annoyances, if for some reason, your line-in cable is not properly
shielded.

Erik


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a
 more practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com



 On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why
 not go with a small USB mixer instead?


 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
 built-in!

 On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe
 someone here can help.

 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in
 input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things
 like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic.

 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected
 to the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be
 taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :)
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Doesn't any body know if BRLTTY works also to support Alva Satellite 540?
I'm trying to use it with NVDA on a Win 8.0 Virtualized with VmWare Fusion, 
under my iMac, but it seems not working at all.

Thanks for every info.
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
Eric, 

What kinds of problems might I encounter with the USB mixer? I like no hum. 
Although I have a range of cables for the line-in, I haven't marked the 
troublesome ones or gotten rid of them. My bad there. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 One important thing mentioning here is that if you go with a USB mixer, you 
 will eliminate the analog to digital conversion step that will be used if you 
 use a tradational line-in mixer. Now this isn't saying that you will notice 
 any degraded audio, but this may become a problem. Also, if you chose to go 
 with a USB mixer, you will not experience any hums and other annoyances, if 
 for some reason, your line-in cable is not properly shielded. 
 
 Erik
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a 
 more practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not 
 go with a small USB mixer instead?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe 
 someone here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
 input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
 like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be 
 taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Learning bash.

2014-06-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Hi all.
I would like to face my terminal on a scientific way learning the bash 
language.

Does anybody have some basic document or web page where starting from?
My knoledge about bash old by mac terminal is zero.

Thanks.

Gabriel. 


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Re: Learning bash.

2014-06-24 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
hi, a fast feminine search gave me this from google.

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/

On 6/24/14, Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it wrote:
 Hi all.
 I would like to face my terminal on a scientific way learning the bash
 language.
 Does anybody have some basic document or web page where starting from?
 My knoledge about bash old by mac terminal is zero.

 Thanks.

 Gabriel.

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Re: iCloud and aliases

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Sabahattin,
   Thanks. It should work ok in Thunderbird for now. Its just a bit 
different from what I am used to but I can work with it and get ready to 
move over to the Mac.


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On 6/23/2014 10:38 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Robert,

An alias (in iCloud terminology) is simply another recognised address for your 
account.  Apple Mail automatically allows you to choose from among your enabled 
aliases as the sender, but in other email software you will have to manually 
supply such addresses as potential From: addresses.  You may use any of your 
aliases at any time.  Therefore, tell Thunderbird that you would like to send 
from multiple From: addresses, or if you can control the field at time of 
sending, just do that.

Be aware that iCloud SMTP servers do not allow you to send mail from any 
address not your own.  This is not normally a problem unless you are sending 
mail on behalf of someone else, which typical usage wouldn't result in you 
doing.  However, you can redirect mail from Apple Mail without issue.

Cheers,
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Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
/A

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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching for a 
screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be able to 
get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected when in 
reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if those are 
still around.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
 Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
 Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread Mickey Quenzer
Hello David:
Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac so 
you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care


*** Mickey Quenzer ***
*** Assistive Technology Training And Consulting Services LLC ***
*** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
*** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
 been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
 few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
 that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
 more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
 and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
 absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
 for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
 also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
 knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
 to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
 Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
 think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
 and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
 iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
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 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
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Re: transferring contacts to a family member

2014-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

If you already have iCloud syncing of Contacts enabled between your Mac and her 
iPhone, then this will be relatively easy.  Do the following on her iPhone:

* Go into Settings/iCloud and turn off Contact syncing.
* You will be asked what you want to do with the existing Contacts, Keep them 
on your iPhone, or Delete them from your iPhone.
* Double-tap on the Keep them on my iPhone.
* Then, setup her new Apple ID and when the iCloud options come up, make sure 
Contact syncing is turned on so that these contacts will be moved up to iCloud 
for her.
* You can then go through all those contacts if you wish removing ones that are 
not important to her life.  This will not affect your contact list at all once 
your Apple ID has been disassociated with her iPhone.

Note that, you can do similar things with other iCloud services that keep data 
both on the iDevice and within iCloud.  One other note, is that she really 
wouldn't be able to see anything you're doing on your computer from her Mac 
unless she installed some surveillance kind of software.  She may be able to 
know where you are by using Find my Mac, learn if you have any new Notes, 
Reminders, Calendar events or have added any new Contacts or apps, but, for the 
most part, nothing profound.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she 
 is still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new apple 
 id for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she might see 
 what im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way to send her 
 all his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,
 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread isaac
Hi there David welcome to the list.
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Mickey Quenzer mickey.quen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello David:
 Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac 
 so you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care
 
 
 *** Mickey Quenzer ***
 *** Assistive Technology Training And Consulting Services LLC ***
 *** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
 *** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***
 
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
 write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and 
 I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows 
 and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll 
 admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I 
 think was more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of 
 tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point 
 where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could 
 get one for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they 
 arise and I also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on 
 gaps in my knowledge which I need to fill.
 I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
 and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been 
 able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to 
 the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with 
 it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up 
 to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see 
 between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
 thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
 
 
 -- 
 David Goldfield,
 
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
 Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 Feel free to visit my new Web site
 http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
 
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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i'd rather wait for that to come :)
On 24 Jun 2014, at 11:37 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:

 On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
 router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router
 
 Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, 
 or buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is 
 actually supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the 
 modem is part of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from 
 the ISP and can be AirPort.
 
 Cheers,
 Sabahattin
 
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thanks tim

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera

On 24 Jun 2014, at 06:26 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 If you already have iCloud syncing of Contacts enabled between your Mac and 
 her iPhone, then this will be relatively easy.  Do the following on her 
 iPhone:
 
 * Go into Settings/iCloud and turn off Contact syncing.
 * You will be asked what you want to do with the existing Contacts, Keep them 
 on your iPhone, or Delete them from your iPhone.
 * Double-tap on the Keep them on my iPhone.
 * Then, setup her new Apple ID and when the iCloud options come up, make sure 
 Contact syncing is turned on so that these contacts will be moved up to 
 iCloud for her.
 * You can then go through all those contacts if you wish removing ones that 
 are not important to her life.  This will not affect your contact list at all 
 once your Apple ID has been disassociated with her iPhone.
 
 Note that, you can do similar things with other iCloud services that keep 
 data both on the iDevice and within iCloud.  One other note, is that she 
 really wouldn't be able to see anything you're doing on your computer from 
 her Mac unless she installed some surveillance kind of software.  She may be 
 able to know where you are by using Find my Mac, learn if you have any new 
 Notes, Reminders, Calendar events or have added any new Contacts or apps, 
 but, for the most part, nothing profound.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she 
 is still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new 
 apple id for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she 
 might see what im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way 
 to send her all his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,
 
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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The combo-pack may happen but I'd guess that you're not going to see a combo 
modem/airport device any time in the near future.  ISP's often have proprietary 
devices that they have entered into agreements with specific venders but, they 
often end up behind the times technology-wise.  That is, all the new Airport 
Extreme and Time Capsule devices are Wireless AC devices whereas I'd venture to 
say that those packaged with ISP's are behind a level or two.  This likely 
won't make much difference to your Internet speed but makes a huge difference 
to your internal network speed.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 i'd rather wait for that to come :)
 On 24 Jun 2014, at 11:37 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
 router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router
 
 Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, 
 or buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is 
 actually supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the 
 modem is part of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from 
 the ISP and can be AirPort.
 
 Cheers,
 Sabahattin
 
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Re: Using Vienna help

2014-06-24 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the info, and everything you said before.  I have it set to
vertical layout but this approach still isn't working - I can arrow up
and down the folder list, press right when finding a folder I want,
arrow up and down the article list.  But then when I press VO j it
jumps me back to the folder list, not the html content.  Don't know
why.

But the good news is I found another way which seems to work well.
After finding an article I want I press enter.  I haven't set it up to
open in external browser and it seems when I press enter it opens in a
new tab but doesn't select that tab.  So I then press command option
right arrow which selects the next tab and also puts VO in the html
content.  When I've finished reading I press command w to close that
tab and I land back where I was in the article list.  So in case
anyone else has trouble perhaps you can try that method as well.
Mysterious as to why the first method isn't working for me but never
mind.

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 6/23/14, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Make sure to use the vertical layout.  Choose Layout from the View Menu and
 set it to vertical.

 You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press
 the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article
 list using up and down arrows  without having to interact with anything.

 If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder
 list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on
 how much is downloaded.

 Pressing Enter should open the article.  I find what works best is to set it
 so that the article opens in the external browser.  Set this in
 Preferences/General.
 I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an
 article.


 I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list.  Well, not
 too much more but.


 On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an
 efficient/convenient way of navigating around?

 At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving
 across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I
 find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick
 open article page.  This opens the article in a separate tab and I
 need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content,
 interact with and read it.

 Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when
 in the articles list which should jump me to the html content.  I had
 this working at one point but it's not now.  When Ihˆ press VO j I get
 jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table.  I don't
 know what's different between when this was working and now that it's
 not.

 Has anyone any suggestions on how to move a bit quicker?  Would love
 to hear how other people are using vienna.

 Thanks,
 Catherine

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Re: How to remove write-protection from my USB-stick or flash-drive, whatever they call them these days

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
How long have you had it for?  Some flash chipsets respond to complete wear by, 
you guessed it, turning read-only.  I wonder if perhaps the disk has had it?

Did it come with software, do you remember?  Perhaps you have need of it now, 
to Unprotect it.  Doubt this is the real reason if you've been happily using 
it all this time though.

Good luck.

Cheers,
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
In my eyes the main advantage is no internet connection is required. 
Disadvantages well can't think of any other than the prerequisites in 
this guide.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 13:41, Jessica wrote:

what are the advantages of doing this?
what are the disadvantages as well?
why would someone want to create a bootible drive?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:


This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.

Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive

This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
take up at least this space.
A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
http://liondiskmaker.com/
The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.

Instructions
1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
Important!
After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App Store 
the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will be erased 
upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of the installer 
where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
arrow keys and press command-o for open.
3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications folder.
7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With quickness 
enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
activate.
Note
By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
control-option.
8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
Note
If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
Tip
Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk preferences 
so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated bootable USB flash 
drive and test your creations. You are also invited to make a donation to the 
developers which is in fact the default button so pressing return will open 
your browser allowing you to make such a donation. Finally there is a quit 
button which does what it says; quit the application. Let's then click the open 
Start-up Disk Preferences button.
12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your bootable 
USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop interacting 
with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and stop interact 
with VoiceOver do one of the following:
A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop interacting.
B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
This is assuming quickness is enabled 

Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio issue 
and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO specific 
question so thought someone using it who also uses different speakers to send 
VO and music through might know the answer.
On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
 addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold by 
 take control books. 
 In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
 something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
 also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
 Hope this helps.
 
 http://www.dr-carter.com
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
 beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
 for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going through 
 the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver reads 
 whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the internal 
 system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know is going 
 to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what you are 
 doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO would just 
 read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is the way it 
 is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth speakers since 
 VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help in advance.
 
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Jason, 

Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.


Thanks to all that have responded. 

Eileen 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
 was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic.

I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
keys as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
All commands are in VO Utility  braille  Assign Commands. There, as the name 
suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to reviewing 
what is already there.

As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's 
settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or disable 
contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a command to 
do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking of iOS.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jason, 
 
 Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
 using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
 document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
 commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
 noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
 assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
 still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
 on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
 the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
 The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
 use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
 
 
 Thanks to all that have responded. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
 
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
 was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
 
 I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
 keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
 VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
 press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
 commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
 braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
 combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
 
 Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
 commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
 keys as you wish.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Jessica D
Have you tried a reset of both devices? Kd that does not help, a clean install 
of osx may be needed.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jason, 
 
 Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
 using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
 document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
 commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
 noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
 assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
 still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
 on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
 the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
 The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
 use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
 
 
 Thanks to all that have responded. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
 
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
 was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
 
 I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
 keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
 VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
 press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
 commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
 braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
 combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
 
 Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
 commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
 keys as you wish.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello, 

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex. 

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
Yes to both. Those are the right keys, and the key mappings are in VO Utility  
Braille. Choose your display from the table (if you have more than one paired, 
or ever have done so) and then choose change commands. Of course, these 
assignments have nothing to do with any Windows screen readers you use, and 
you'll need to disconnect VO before any other programs can use the Apex.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, 
 
 I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
 at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
 in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
 iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
 the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
 be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
 use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
 on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
 nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
 computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
 instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
 
 Hi Eileen,
 
 To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
 doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
 to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
 up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
 I'm afraid.
 
 With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
 all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
 the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
 inner ones.
 
 I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
 try and recreate your issue.
 
 Cheers,
 Sabahattin
 
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I never got brltty to work on my mac.
So  i gave it up and do an ssh from my linux box to my mac instead.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 10:02 skrev Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net:

 Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
 text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  
 
 Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
 it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.
 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Eileen,
   Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the 
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to 
be made clear.


   The commands list in the VO guide is the list of commom commands 
that can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.


   There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each 
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands 
which on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.


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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hello,

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex.

Kind regards,
Eileen

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin



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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I suggest you buy a usb mixer as it gives you better sound quality.
Though i don't know any good once.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 14:55 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com:

 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
 here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
 I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
 computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
 up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Do you know what these converters are called?
Thanks.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:

 That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
 kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching for 
 a screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be able to 
 get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected when in 
 reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if those are 
 still around.
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
 Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
 Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
I am pretty sure you are looking for an NTSC box, but I am not totally certain. 
Still, a cheap monitor these days can't be much, especially an older one. You 
will probably need a Mini Display to VGA converter if you get the NTSC box or 
an old monitor, just FYI That adapter says Mini Display, but it is the same as 
Thunderbolt and hooks up to that jack on the Mac Mini.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 Do you know what these converters are called?
 Thanks.
 /A
 24 jun 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
 kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching 
 for a screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be 
 able to get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected 
 when in reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if 
 those are still around.
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
 Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
 Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread CJ Daniel
Jenine,

You might look in to the M-Audio Fast Track or Fast Track Pro.  Those work 
pretty well with Mac.  But, I believe they're only 2 channel for the XLR's.  
On-the-other-hand, they're are more expensive models by the same manufacturer 
with 4-channels.  Also, depending on your Mac, your not limited to USB.  There 
are firewire models as well with much less latency issues.  You can use a 
firewire to Thunder Bolt adapter, from Apple, for later Macs.

CJ

On Jun 24, 2014, at 5:55 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
 here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
 I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
 computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
 up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Doesn't any body know if BRLTTY works also to support Alva Satellite 540?

I think all of the Alva displays are supported. If you're experiencing
difficulties, the helpful people on the BRLTTY mailing list should be able to
assist.
 I'm trying to use it with NVDA on a Win 8.0 Virtualized with VmWare Fusion,
 under my iMac, but it seems not working at all.

That could be a little complicated to set up. The USB port has to be forwarded
to the virtual machine, then BRLTTY has to recognize the display, and finally
NVDA needs to connect to BRLTTY. I don't know Windows, so I can't help with
that aspect, but I use BRLTTY every day on Linux.

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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Robert, 

Thanks for that explanation. When I reviewed the command list for the Apex,
the thumb buttons should pan the document to advance or go back to the
previous chunk of 32 cells, which is the total cells on the Apex. I'll have
to dig into this more when I have another amount of spare time to devote to
it. Thanks. 

Eileen 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen,
Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to be
made clear.

The commands list in the VO guide is the list of commom commands that
can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.

There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands which
on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
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lady, How to think like a man, And how to work like a dog.
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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hello,

 I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to 
 look at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I 
 would assume in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had 
 either a Text Edit or iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys 
 on the Apex interacted with the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped 
 interacting. Is this the way it should be acting? I do have Win 8.1 
 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to use the Apex is through 
 either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS on the Mac Air, 
 but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's nice to have 
 a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the computer. 
 Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further instructions on
where to find the mapping for the Apex.

 Kind regards,
 Eileen

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin 
 Gucukoglu
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

 Hi Eileen,

 To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, 
 it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd 
 encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  
 Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from 
 the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

 With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out 
 what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  
 I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical 
 navigation to be the inner ones.

 I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and 
 I'll try and recreate your issue.

 Cheers,
 Sabahattin


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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello Jessica, 

This is the only thing that I am having problems in with ML. I won't go as
far as a clean install of the OS, since it was a bear to get Win 8.1
installed in bootcamp. That is another topic or thread for this list in the
future. I have lived without a braille display this long, I can wait until
Yosemite comes out and hope that this can be fixed in the new operating
system. Thanks for your post and taking the time to write. 

Best, 
Eileen 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Have you tried a reset of both devices? Kd that does not help, a clean
install of osx may be needed.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi Jason,
 
 Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the 
 Apex using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
 document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille 
 commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help 
 and noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't 
 assigned. I'm assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke 
 with VO. The problem still exists with the inability to pan from line 
 to line and seeing the text on the Apex's braille display in 
 uncontracted braille. I also made sure that the Apex contracted braille
was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
 The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to 
 get use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be
great.
 
 
 Thanks to all that have responded. 
 
 Eileen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
 
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
 was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
 
 I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille 
 keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you 
 invoke VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then 
 be able to press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display 
 to find out what commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver 
 documentation also lists braille display commands, most involving 
 entering braille characters in combination with the space bar, i.e., as
chords, as they used to be called.
 
 Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated 
 with commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign 
 commands to keys as you wish.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
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Re: Using Vienna help

2014-06-24 Thread Geoff Stephens
Catherine -
If you are happy with what you are doing, by all means stick with it.  The 
reason I prefer to have the articles open in an external browser is so that I 
can quickly enable the reader with Command Shift R if it is available, thus 
saving me some time trying to find the text of articles in those sometimes very 
busy news sites.  But I have experimented with things to try to duplicate what 
is happening to you and I guess there are some advantages.

One thing that might solve the issue with getting back to the article list is 
to be sure not to have more than one article tab open.  Once you are done with 
an article, press Command W to close it and I think you should land in the 
article list.  But that may also depend on the layout.


On Jun 24, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Catherine Turner 
catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the info, and everything you said before.  I have it set to
vertical layout but this approach still isn't working - I can arrow up
and down the folder list, press right when finding a folder I want,
arrow up and down the article list.  But then when I press VO j it
jumps me back to the folder list, not the html content.  Don't know
why.

But the good news is I found another way which seems to work well.
After finding an article I want I press enter.  I haven't set it up to
open in external browser and it seems when I press enter it opens in a
new tab but doesn't select that tab.  So I then press command option
right arrow which selects the next tab and also puts VO in the html
content.  When I've finished reading I press command w to close that
tab and I land back where I was in the article list.  So in case
anyone else has trouble perhaps you can try that method as well.
Mysterious as to why the first method isn't working for me but never
mind.

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 6/23/14, Geoff Stephens geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Make sure to use the vertical layout.  Choose Layout from the View Menu and
 set it to vertical.
 
 You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press
 the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article
 list using up and down arrows  without having to interact with anything.
 
 If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder
 list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on
 how much is downloaded.
 
 Pressing Enter should open the article.  I find what works best is to set it
 so that the article opens in the external browser.  Set this in
 Preferences/General.
 I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an
 article.
 
 
 I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list.  Well, not
 too much more but.
 
 
 On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner
 catherineturner2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an
 efficient/convenient way of navigating around?
 
 At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving
 across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I
 find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick
 open article page.  This opens the article in a separate tab and I
 need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content,
 interact with and read it.
 
 Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when
 in the articles list which should jump me to the html content.  I had
 this working at one point but it's not now.  When Ihˆ press VO j I get
 jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table.  I don't
 know what's different between when this was working and now that it's
 not.
 
 Has anyone any suggestions on how to move a bit quicker?  Would love
 to hear how other people are using vienna.
 
 Thanks,
 Catherine
 
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
HiAlex, 

 

You are correct that space-G will toggle between contracted and uncontracted
braille in VO. When I poked around in the VO utility-braille and clicked on
assigned keystrokes, I was only given a short countdown to input the new
keystroke to change the setting. Do I need to tab to a table for the list of
assigned keystrokes in VO for braille? This is all new to me, as I begin
increasing my skills and venturing out from the basics. 

 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

 

Best, 

Eileen 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

 

All commands are in VO Utility  braille  Assign Commands. There, as the
name suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to
reviewing what is already there.

 

As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's
settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or
disable contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a
command to do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking
of iOS.

On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:





Hi Jason, 

Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.


Thanks to all that have responded. 

Eileen 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:



Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
me in the right direction that would be fantastic.


I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
keys as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
The table should be there, with a bunch of commands. Arrow to a row, interact, 
go-space on the menu button that says what the command does, and you can choose 
a new command. Or, press cmd-b (I think) to change the key combination assigned 
to the currently selected command.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 HiAlex,
  
 You are correct that space-G will toggle between contracted and uncontracted 
 braille in VO. When I poked around in the VO utility-braille and clicked on 
 assigned keystrokes, I was only given a short countdown to input the new 
 keystroke to change the setting. Do I need to tab to a table for the list of 
 assigned keystrokes in VO for braille? This is all new to me, as I begin 
 increasing my skills and venturing out from the basics.
  
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
  
 Best,
 Eileen
  
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 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
  
 All commands are in VO Utility  braille  Assign Commands. There, as the 
 name suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to 
 reviewing what is already there.
  
 As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's 
 settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or 
 disable contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a 
 command to do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking of 
 iOS.
 On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Jason, 
 
 Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
 using it as a braille display with VO, the getting Started With VO
 document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
 commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
 noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
 assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
 still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
 on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
 the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
 The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
 use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
 
 
 Thanks to all that have responded. 
 
 Eileen 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
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 Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
 
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
 was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
 me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
 
 I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
 keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
 VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
 press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
 commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
 braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
 combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
 
 Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
 commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
 keys as you wish.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
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Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Brian,
If I personally use the app, I would help you. However I'm not familiar with it 
therefore I forwarded  to you what I was hoping would help you. At least you 
had listen to the podcast and purchase the book.  I certainly wish I could've 
been more help. I may check out the app when I can afford it. Right now funds 
are little tight.

Pam Francis

On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio issue 
and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO specific 
question so thought someone using it who also uses different speakers to send 
VO and music through might know the answer.
 On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
 addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold by 
 take control books. 
 In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
 something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
 also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
 Hope this helps.
 
 http://www.dr-carter.com
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
 beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
 for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going through 
 the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver reads 
 whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the internal 
 system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know is going 
 to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what you are 
 doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO would just 
 read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is the way it 
 is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth speakers since 
 VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help in advance.
 
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
how about try to chech the apogee duet mic
On 25 Jun 2014, at 12:37 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 I suggest you buy a usb mixer as it gives you better sound quality.
 Though i don't know any good once.
 /A
 24 jun 2014 kl. 14:55 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com:
 
 This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
 here can help. 
 
 I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
 input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
 like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
 
 Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
 the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
 up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Eileen,
   I had to check out what the pan command does. Perhaps the Apex uses 
it differently. For the Braille Sense (also a 32 cell display), it moves 
by 32 items, not cells. My note taker is set to move by line using the 
scroll buttons.


   Might this act different when the display is connected to the Mac? I 
too need to spend some time with the Edge and Mac.


Quote of the nanosecond . . .
If toast always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on
their feet, what happens if you strap toast on the back of a cat
and drop it?
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On 6/24/2014 4:42 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Robert,

Thanks for that explanation. When I reviewed the command list for the Apex,
the thumb buttons should pan the document to advance or go back to the
previous chunk of 32 cells, which is the total cells on the Apex. I'll have
to dig into this more when I have another amount of spare time to devote to
it. Thanks.

Eileen

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Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen,
 Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to be
made clear.

 The commands list in the VO guide is the list of commom commands that
can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.

 There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands which
on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Four things a woman should know: How to look like a girl, How to act like a
lady, How to think like a man, And how to work like a dog.
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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hello,

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to
look at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I
would assume in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had
either a Text Edit or iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys
on the Apex interacted with the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped
interacting. Is this the way it should be acting? I do have Win 8.1
installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to use the Apex is through
either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS on the Mac Air,
but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's nice to have
a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the computer.
Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further instructions on

where to find the mapping for the Apex.


Kind regards,
Eileen

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Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin



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Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Pam,

Honestly I don't know how useful the app is to someone who uses VoiceOver and 
already uses keyboard commander to launch the main apps that you use. What I 
have found in my limited use of Launch Bar is it does help you get to a 
specific file a little quicker and find a song in your iTunes library quicker, 
but honestly I am not sure that warrants the price, as I do find myself getting 
lost in the indexes more often than getting to something I am looking for 
quickly. I am sure with more experience I will get more accustomed to it, but 
if you are on a fixed budget I don't think you are missing anything by not 
having it. Thanks again, and unfortunately still no answer to the annoying 
VoiceOver being read through both sets of my speakers, will have to contact the 
developer I guess, have never had this happen with any other application.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Brian,
 If I personally use the app, I would help you. However I'm not familiar with 
 it therefore I forwarded  to you what I was hoping would help you. At least 
 you had listen to the podcast and purchase the book.  I certainly wish I 
 could've been more help. I may check out the app when I can afford it. Right 
 now funds are little tight.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
 bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio 
 issue and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO 
 specific question so thought someone using it who also uses different 
 speakers to send VO and music through might know the answer.
 On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
 addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold 
 by take control books. 
 In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
 something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
 also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
 Hope this helps.
 
 http://www.dr-carter.com
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
 beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
 for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going 
 through the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver 
 reads whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the 
 internal system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know 
 is going to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what 
 you are doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO 
 would just read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is 
 the way it is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth 
 speakers since VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help 
 in advance.
 
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