Re: [maemo-developers] WLAN problem after upgrade to 2005.42-9

2005-11-04 Thread Samuel Ortiz
Hi,

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> after the upgrade to 2005.42-9 my N770
> couldn't connect to my WLAN router (fritz box 7050 firmware 14.03.88).
Could you provide us with dmesg output ?

Cheers,
Samuel.

> With 2005.40-18 it was no problem to connect to the box (WPA).
> Has someone else the same problem?
> I'm perplexed because I entered the same data.
> In the meantime I flashed the old version 2005.40-18  :-(
>
> Best Regards
>  Olli
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Re: [maemo-developers] U.S. developer devices query

2005-11-04 Thread Rui Carmo
Well, it isn't available in all European countries. Portugal has been skipped, despite our penchant for being early adopters, 104% mobile penetration, Eur. 30/month 3G flat rate data plans, a massive Nokia presence in the handset market, and more ADSL and Wi-Fi access than you'd probably expect...I posted the question to maemo-users yesterday, but having had no replies, I'll try again here (and apologise for the general broadcast) - any way of buying one in Portugal? Anyone in Nokia that I can reach to get some feedback on this?Thanks,Rui Carmohttp://the.taoofmac.comOn Nov 4, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Roger Sperberg wrote:Now that the Nokia 770 is already for sale in Europe, and sales are reported to begin next Friday in the U.S., I'm wondering if the developer devices for non-E.U. countries are being made available?  Are there any U.S.-based developers who have gotten their code? Or non-E.U.-based developers?  Thanks. If anyone from Nokia would care to provide hard information, that would be especially welcome.  Roger  PS: I've been told I'm way too impatient on this matter, more than once. Apologies for this impatience breaking out again. :-)-- firstinitial lastname at gmail.com Internet Tablet Users blog (Nokia 770: http://www.internettablettalk.com/blog/ )Teleread (e-books: http://teleread.org/blog/ )Electric Forest (digital libraries: http://altheim.com/ef/)___maemo-developers mailing listmaemo-developers@maemo.orghttps://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___
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Re: [maemo-developers] WLAN problem after upgrade to 2005.42-9

2005-11-04 Thread Jochen Eisinger
see bug #192

regards
-- jochen

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Re: [maemo-developers] How to install/start python

2005-11-04 Thread trfm64q02
Hi,

> Florian Boor florian.boor-at-kernelconcepts.de |maemo|:

> that's not really true: The Application Installer takes care of this on its 
> own.
> Usually this message means that the package doesn't depend on "maemo". There 
> is
> some script around to fix these dependencies the AI doesn't like.

Which script do you mean?
Can you please tell me (exact) what I have to do to install python on my N770?

Thanxs
 Olli
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[maemo-developers] WLAN problem after upgrade to 2005.42-9

2005-11-04 Thread trfm64q02
Hi,

after the upgrade to 2005.42-9 my N770
couldn't connect to my WLAN router (fritz box 7050 firmware 14.03.88).
With 2005.40-18 it was no problem to connect to the box (WPA).
Has someone else the same problem?
I'm perplexed because I entered the same data.
In the meantime I flashed the old version 2005.40-18  :-( 

Best Regards
 Olli

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[maemo-developers] U.S. developer devices query

2005-11-04 Thread Roger Sperberg
Now that the Nokia 770 is already for sale in Europe, and sales are
reported to begin next Friday in the U.S., I'm wondering if the
developer devices for non-E.U. countries are being made available?

Are there any U.S.-based developers who have gotten their code? Or non-E.U.-based developers?

Thanks. If anyone from Nokia would care to provide hard information, that would be especially welcome.

Roger

PS: I've been told I'm way too impatient on this matter, more than once. Apologies for this impatience breaking out again. :-)-- firstinitial lastname at gmail.com
Internet Tablet Users blog (Nokia 770: http://www.internettablettalk.com/blog/ )Teleread (e-books: http://teleread.org/blog/
)Electric Forest (digital libraries: http://altheim.com/ef/)
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Re: [maemo-developers] How to install/start python

2005-11-04 Thread Florian Boor
Hi,

Martin Grimme wrote:

> I think "package is integrated" means that the package attempts to
> install files outside of /var/lib/install, which is forbidden on

that's not really true: The Application Installer takes care of this on its own.
Usually this message means that the package doesn't depend on "maemo". There is
some script around to fix these dependencies the AI doesn't like.

Greetings

Florian

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Re: [maemo-developers] How to install/start python

2005-11-04 Thread Martin Grimme
Am Freitag, den 04.11.2005, 16:30 + schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I tried to install the python package (from sourceforge 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pymaemo/ ) on my N770. But the device said 
> that the package is already installed.
> Afterwards I tried to start python on the device (typing python on the X 
> Terminal) but it seems not to be there.
> What is going wrong?
> How can I execute an python script on the N770?

I think "package is integrated" means that the package attempts to
install files outside of /var/lib/install, which is forbidden on
the Nokia 770. The Python deb package was made for maemo and not for
the device. You can unpack the package manually and copy the files
in place. Or even put the files into your home directory if you
don't want to mess with the root file system. In that case you
have to adjust the LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable to include the
path to the Python interpreter library.
If you need more information about installing Python into your
home directory on the device, I can give you a detailed description
how I did this.


Regards, Martin

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[maemo-developers] How to install/start python

2005-11-04 Thread trfm64q02
Hi,

I tried to install the python package (from sourceforge 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pymaemo/ ) on my N770. But the device said that 
the package is already installed.
Afterwards I tried to start python on the device (typing python on the X 
Terminal) but it seems not to be there.
What is going wrong?
How can I execute an python script on the N770?

Best Regards
 Olli
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Re: [maemo-developers] rotating the screen (was: Maemo and Independent software vendors or commercial software vendors)

2005-11-04 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Or does some hardware (OMAP?) support DMA going backwards when sending 
data to LCD?


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Re: [maemo-developers] rotating the screen (was: Maemo and Independent software vendors or commercial software vendors)

2005-11-04 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Koen Kooi wrote:

Matthew Allum pointed me to a patch that can help with this sort of
thing: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537
We are using an adapted patch for kdrive in OpenEmbedded for devices
where the real framebuffer doesn't match the orientation of the screen.

regards,

Koen


Is there some chance to have it faster for 180 degree rotation (i.e. for 
left handed people using N770) preferably without shadow buffer?


For 180 degree rotation writing to place framebufferstart+x means in 
fact writing to place framebufferend-x, correct? Can this be done 
transparently without additional copy of framebuffer on some abstraction 
level?


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Re: [maemo-developers] Questions to HOWTO:Set up CPU transparency with your device and sbrsh

2005-11-04 Thread Timo Steuerwald

Riku Voipio wrote:

That would indicate that sbrshd (the daemon on the target device) is faling to 
mount. Which user is sbrshd running as? with kill -SIGUSR1 `pidof sbrshd` you 
can get it to log to /tmp


 


<--snip--->
nokia770:~# ps -Al|grep sbrshd
1234 root652 S   sbrshd
1472 root424 S   grep sbrshd
<--snip--->

Activating logging was a very good idea and solutes my problem.
It says:
<---snip-->
04-11-2005 13:06:13.396  1234  DAEMON Warning: Passwords don't match
04-11-2005 13:06:13.396  1234  DAEMON Sending message: Permission denied
<---snip-->

Often there are the easiest things which went wrong: I added a space at 
the password in one file, at the other not. after fixing that, it works. 
:-((( *bangingmyheadonthedesk*


Thanks for your help, guys!

Cheers,

Timo
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Re: [maemo-developers] rotating the screen (was: Maemo and Independent software vendors or commercial software vendors)

2005-11-04 Thread Koen Kooi
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Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
>>The screen is brilliant and bright enough for day use. However it
>>is currently not possible to rotate the content.
> 
> 
> In the SDK it's easy to test how rotating the screen affects Maemo.
> Just use 'xrandr' to rotate / resize the Xephyr screen and see how
> the SW and gfx works in portrait mode...
> 
> If HW doesn't support rotation, all operations need to go through
> X shadow framebuffer which can slow down things considerably.

Matthew Allum pointed me to a patch that can help with this sort of
thing: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537
We are using an adapted patch for kdrive in OpenEmbedded for devices
where the real framebuffer doesn't match the orientation of the screen.

regards,

Koen


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Re: [maemo-developers] rotating the screen (was: Maemo and Independent software vendors or commercial software vendors)

2005-11-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

> The screen is brilliant and bright enough for day use. However it
> is currently not possible to rotate the content.

In the SDK it's easy to test how rotating the screen affects Maemo.
Just use 'xrandr' to rotate / resize the Xephyr screen and see how
the SW and gfx works in portrait mode...

If HW doesn't support rotation, all operations need to go through
X shadow framebuffer which can slow down things considerably.

- Eero

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Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo and Independent software vendors or commercial software vendors

2005-11-04 Thread Victor Toni

Devesh Kothari wrote:


I want to open a dialog with all ISV/Commercial vendors wanting to work
with developing solutions for maemo based devices like the Nokia 770
Internet tablet

Objectives
- To understand your requirements and expectations
- Proposals from your side what we need to improve
- Proposals what you would like us to do (given an option differently:)

If you feel more comfortable, you can  write private email to me

Best Regards
Devesh Kothari
 


I would expect two more features to be available for this platform (to
be more specific for the 770):

1) Java.
AFAIK the CPU has even support for hardware acceleration for Java.
There may be some issues with proprietary implatemtations using Jazelle
but there are other implementations available for ARM CPUs (eg. Kaffe or
Blackdown)
Python is fine but there are many applications out there written in Java
waiting to be run on other devices.
This can be a wide range from desktop applications to applications
writen for J2ME means one can use all the fine programs from ones moblie
on a device with a more powerfull CPU and a better display.

2) Screen rotation
The screen is brilliant and bright enough for day use. However it is
currently not possible to rotate the content.
There some use cases where I see an increased value of such functionality:
   a) left-handed people could use the device in a more natural way
  (180 degree)
   b) for e-books: I prefer short lines and would like to read  books
  that way (90 degree)
   c) using the on-screen keyboard in horizontal mode makes the screen
  even smaller especially things like taking notes (where one needs
  the keyboard all the time) would benefit from a rotated display
   d) enterprise use: I could think of the device being used in company
  to do checks, validation, inventory there may be already
  specialized tools for this tasks but having the possibility to
  check things in stock, etc with one device seems quite
  "attractive"
  having a check list in vertical mode seems more natural

Surely there are applications which could / should not be rotated (eg.
fixed layout games), so it way be usefull to enable applications to
enforce a certain mode.

I hope this remarks are in the scope of your question.

Kindest regards,
Victor Toni



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Re: [maemo-developers] Questions to HOWTO:Set up CPU transparency with your device and sbrsh

2005-11-04 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thursday 03 November 2005 18:46, Timo Steuerwald wrote:
> I already have written that here:
> http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2005-November/001665.html

doh, this messages has splitted to so many threads it's hard to follow...

> <--snip--->
> [sbox-OLD_ARM: ~] > sbrsh OLD_ARM
> sbrsh: Permission denied
> <--snip--->

That would indicate that sbrshd (the daemon on the target device) is faling to 
mount. Which user is sbrshd running as? with kill -SIGUSR1 `pidof sbrshd` you 
can get it to log to /tmp
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