Re: [maemo-developers] xbase-clients ??
Hi, I succeeded yesterday evening building: http://thelemming.org.uk/maemo/btmice/maemo_mouse_readme.txt helped a lot. additional I had to install compositeext-2.0 from the same freedesktop source. But xauth does not seem to be included :-) But I learnd, that Xvnc has to be build within the x-server sources. As far as I understand, it is only possible with xfree and xorg, not with xserver-kdrive. Does anybody have an idea, how one might setup a virtual screen vnc server for maemo? Detlef Am Sonntag, den 28.01.2007, 08:55 +0100 schrieb Kees Jongenburger: As I am afraid xauth may depend on the version of the running x-server on 770, I hoped, somebody may have build the package. Hi . II would also be interested in having the Xnest binary. I have tried to build the kdrive-xserver yesterday but did not succeed( I did not give up yet). I guess that anybody building the package can provide booth geetings ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Xvfb for maemo?
Hi, does anybody have information on a virtual framebuffer (Xvfb) for maemo? I could not find it in the xserver-kdrive. Detlef ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Distribute Python application
Hello Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the N800, but : My package can be installed only in red pill mode. Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ? Thanks. David. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application
Is the package in the User section?: Section: user/something Greets. On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the N800, but : My package can be installed only in red pill mode. Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ? Thanks. David. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Correct place to enter N800 discount code?
On 1/27/07, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried to order my N800 just now, the only place that I could see for entering the discount code was on the screen that you get to using the Use Promotional Code button on the order summary page. But when I entered my code in the box, I got a code not valid message. This is exactly what I am currently getting. I take it you're in the UK, no? On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:56 -0800, Ty Hoffman wrote: You might also find calling easier, provided you get the right person. I think this must be the case. On Friday evening I rang Nokia Care. I knew this wasn't the right number and hoped to be passed on. After giving some details to the Nokia guy, he gave me another number to call- the Nokia Online Shop IIRC. I was told that they would be able to process my order and would be able to buy over the phone with a discount code. This is only open from 9-6 weekdays, and I think this is only for the UK: 0808 2347149. I am going to try them tomorrow (Monday), then I'll post back here with an update. Regards, -- Jonny Lamb, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jonnylamb.com GPG: 0x2E039402 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application
No, it's my own package built with the instructions in this page : http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html Álvaro J. Iradier wrote: Is the package in the User section?: Section: user/something Greets. On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the N800, but : My package can be installed only in red pill mode. Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ? Thanks. David. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance (pCPU versus vCPU featureset mismatches)
I'll keep an eye on this issue especially with the possibility of lower end systems being resurrected to run a single or pair of small current-era virtual machines. -JMills -- Jason Mills -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Virtual Appliance Partner Enablement Manager VMTN Turner of Knobs and Pusher of Buttons -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - - -- Course Developer Staff VMWorld 2006 Lab 3805 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kon Wilms Sent: Sat 27-Jan-07 11:19 To: Mathias Uebelacker Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance This is a kernel issue with Ubuntu 6.10 running on M, C3 and some other processors. I have a laptop with an M here. If I have some time this weekend I will try do a custom kernel as a boot option and hopefully that fixes it. This is because the 2.6.17-10-server kernel is compiled with HIGHMEM64G support, which requires PAE, but the Via C3 processor used on most Epias does not support PAE. You will have to use a kernel without HIGHMEM64G support (HIGHMEM4G will work, as will NOHIGHMEM). The same problem occurs on certain Pentium M CPUs. Most other CPUs since Pentium Pro support PAE. Cheers Kon On 1/27/07, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, i try VMWare Appliance and after the installation and start the VMWare Player i get an error: unkown interrupt or fault at EIP xxx any ideas was went wrong. br Mathias ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application
Yes, but what I mean, in the debian/control file there's a line that says Section:. That tutorial says: The Application Installer only shows packages in the user section. Thus, your Section: field in the control file must has the Section: user/SUBSECTION syntax, where SUBSECTION is arbitrary. Greets. On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's my own package built with the instructions in this page : http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html Álvaro J. Iradier wrote: Is the package in the User section?: Section: user/something Greets. On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the N800, but : My package can be installed only in red pill mode. Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ? Thanks. David. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 12:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there exists various APIs for GPS location data in OS2007. These APIs should be used by applications instead of connecting directly to BT GPS device. The APIs enable multiple applications to receive positioning data simultaneously i.e., one application cannot steal the GPS device to itself. As an example of the API usage, I created wiki page at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007. The wiki page describes geotagging application that uses the GPS APIs in OS2007. The geotagging tool consists of three parts and they can be found in maemo garage at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-saver/ https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-starter/ https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gtag/ Excellent. How much of this is open source? And does it use any existing open standards? For instance, is the bluetooth GPS data communicated via some standard protocol/format so that it can be expected to work with non-Nokia GPS devices? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?
hi, please follow instructions at http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/09/minimomozilla-maemo-port-repository.html regards On 1/27/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:51:53 -0400, Antonio Gomes wrote: No. I had plans to migrate all minimo maemo port stuff to maemo.garage, but due to lack of time it is not done yet. About releases, the newest one is 0.16.8-2 in matter of facts, available only at home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo/mistral , as you pointed out. *** *news* *** * I have tried it on n800, and it works fine. * I started today working on a new release, which is planed to land on friday at the most. Hello, So far I am not able to install minimo on N800; deps do not fill in ever, I'll be glad to know any workarounds. Please suggest. Regards, Kevin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- --Antonio Gomes ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?
For the lazy: ;-) Web address: http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo Distribution: mistral/ Components: (leave blank) Thanks for the hard work, Antonio. Cheers Kon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Python and maemo API documentation
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Osvaldo Santana wrote: Hi Álvaro, On 1/27/07, Álvaro J. Iradier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm developing some python applications for Nokia 770, and I think documentation is not as good as I expected. 1) First, the code in the python tutorial in here: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/pymaemo/python_maemo_howto.html Yes, this document is deprecated now. Please, take a look at the new one at: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html 2) I couldn't find docs for the Python Hildon API, but I looked at the maemo hildon API for C, it should be enough: We've a new API documentation to Hildon and LibOSSO in the package source files (I don't remember now what is the reason why this documents aren't uploaded to the site)... I'll upload it this Monday. Other entries, like API documentation control panel, status bar and home applets are empty too: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/maemo-af-desktop-sdk-doc/index.html (is this available in Python, by the way). No, unfortunately we don't have created bindings for Control Panel, Status Bar and Home Applets stuff. We have plans to make it until June. Will there be bindings for the address book interfaces? I could not seem to find any in the current python 2.5 release. Thanks. 3) I know 'help' command is not available in python for 770, but there should be another version for scratchbox with 'help' available. It would be very useful! Maybe it is already available and I missed it? We can't build two versions of the same package but you can use your distribution's Python to call help(). We don't include docstrings inside the Maemo bindings (hildon and osso modules). Thanks, Osvaldo -- John P. Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:49:54 -0800, Kon Wilms wrote: For the lazy: ;-) Web address: http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo Distribution: mistral/ Components: (leave blank) Thanks for the hard work, Antonio. Hello Kon, You got it right ! I just in time I was trying to install apps from o-hand.com I figured this one out then. Sorry not so familiar with the repo system of Maemo but this is a good amount of learning everyday. Finally I could try Minimo, sad its not use-able as of now, and crashes, soft keyboard had been trouble as well. I'll be glad to keep on testing it further and providing the feedback. Here I must say that an Epiphany port for Maemo might happen to be a good thing, while Minimo might take time or another port of it-self to adapt to use-ability features of Maemo. At-least even while using Opera on N800 so far, I badly missed smart bookmarks of Epiphany. I admit it I am so lazy ! Cheers, KEvin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] New Application catalogue
Yes, it is available of course. We use Midgard as a framework and the app catalog sources are in our subversion repo: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemo2midgard/maemo2007/applicationcatalog/ Great, I'll make some tests during the week and send some proposals + patches. Here is what I will be working on first: - Add a Latest software box on the main page - Implement a rating system (should only registered users be able to vote or anyone? If so should I implement an IP based anti-cheating system?) - Then add a Most popular box on the main page ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] fullscreen button and uimanager
Hi, So lately I've been making view-manga[1] a litte bit nicer, adding a menu and all that fluff. Seems to work nicely, _except_ for the fullscreen button[2]. What happens is this: - Launch application - Press fullscreen button - The window fullscreens alright. - Press fullscreen button - Nothing happens. Strange. The relevant bits are https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/trunk/source/main.c?content-type=text%2Fplainrev=21root=view-manga search for gtk_accel_map_change_entry(view-manga/file/fullscreen, HILDON_HARDKEY_FULLSCREEN, 0, TRUE); [1] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/view-manga/ [2] Can we please make the window manager handle both fullscreening and the fullscreen button? Having every single app handle it is strange. cheers, Danny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] unzip: file manager associations
Hi, I patched unzip a little bit in order to integrate into the desktop: URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10_armel.changes URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10_armel.deb URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10.dsc URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10.tar.gz However, when I click on the file in file manager, I get Unable to open. I put a desktop file for handling application/zip into /usr/share/applications/hildon/. I called update-desktop-database. Anything I'm missing? Also, any news how to support desktop actions (i.e. in this case Edit, Unzip, Browse, ...) on a file? Also, anyone wants to contribute a unzip program icon? cheers, Danny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Newcommer question(emulator/major work/discount)
Hi, On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0800, Rui.Zhou wrote: Hi there, Know maemo project for several months and start to do sth for it(or learn sth from it) now Well,The first thing you can do is to download and start using the maemo development platform But before that anyone can tell me something about maemo briefly: 1.has Emulator?(or must have N800 to test the application? No N800 at the moment) There is a qemu-arm emulator, but last time I tried it didn't support much. The scratchbox has many tools in different places than the real machine (and the tools have different options), so that is also not good to test how a program would behave on the device. So you need the hardware :( 2.which one is the major work?platform lib or the application? I don't understand the question. 3.How to be an Eligible developer to get a N800 at discount price(or any discount for Nokia employee)? Check the list archives, cheers, Danny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007
On 28/01/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 12:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there exists various APIs for GPS location data in OS2007. These APIs should be used by applications instead of connecting directly to BT GPS device. The APIs enable multiple applications to receive positioning data simultaneously i.e., one application cannot steal the GPS device to itself. As an example of the API usage, I created wiki page at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007. The wiki page describes geotagging application that uses the GPS APIs in OS2007. The geotagging tool consists of three parts and they can be found in maemo garage at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-saver/ https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-starter/ https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gtag/ Excellent. How much of this is open source? And does it use any existing open standards? For instance, is the bluetooth GPS data communicated via some standard protocol/format so that it can be expected to work with non-Nokia GPS devices? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com As far as I can see, it is just an organised way to spawn gpsd ( http://gpsd.berlios.de/) , and connect it to a bluetooth GPS receiver over rfcomm. gpsd then gives you a socket interface with a normalised ASCII string of position info, or you can get the NMEA stream and decode it yourself. Regards, Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] New Scratchbox installer for maemo 3.0 'bora' now available
Hello, A new Scratchbox installer script that installs and configures the Scratchbox cross-compilation toolkit for maemo 3.0 'bora' is now available. The script and the updated INSTALL.txt file can be downloaded from: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/ The name of the script is: maemo-scratchbox-install_3.0.sh Before starting the installation please read first the updated INSTALL.txt file. This installer script simplifies the process of setting up the maemo 3.0 'bora' development environment especially for new developers. The script automatically downloads Scratchbox from scratchbox.org and takes care of various SB related configurations for the developer thus minimizing manual work and potential Scratchbox misconfiguration. Happy Hacking! On behalf of the maemo SDK team: Ferenc ___ maemo-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-announce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007
ext Dave Smith wrote: Do you know of any plans to expose these APIs to Python? I wrote a GPS app in Python for the 770, but it really relied on gpsd running on another machine, so I'm pleased to see gpsd on the 800 and it'd be nice to spawn it off simply from the code. Regards, Dave Sorry, currently there are no plans for Python API. Rgds, Jukka ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Ogg Vorbis and the N800
Hi as far as I can tell the n800 with the OMAP2420 processor has a vfp (vector floating point unit; see [1] ) Based on this I wanted to find out if vorbis could take advantage of this unit by default. To make it short: Yes it works - BUT it is just painful! What I did: 1) Set up scratchbox for bora -- excellent install script! Thanks! :-) 2) downloaded the sources for libao, libogg, libvorbis from [2] 3) downloaded gst-plugins-base-0-10.9 from [3] 4) compiled on SDK_ARMEL target 5) copied the libs to the n800 6) called gst-inspect: snip- Nokia-N800-51:~# gst-inspect vorbis Plugin Details: Name: vorbis Description: Vorbis plugin library Filename: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvorbis.so Version: 0.10.9 License: LGPL Source module:gst-plugins-base Binary package: GStreamer Base Plug-ins source release Origin URL: Unknown package origin vorbisparse: VorbisParse vorbisdec: Vorbis audio decoder vorbisenc: Vorbis audio encoder 3 features: +-- 3 elements Nokia-N800-51:~# gst-inspect ogg Plugin Details: Name: ogg Description: ogg stream manipulation (info about ogg: http://xiph.org) Filename: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstogg.so Version: 0.10.9 License: LGPL Source module:gst-plugins-base Binary package: GStreamer Base Plug-ins source release Origin URL: Unknown package origin oggparse: Ogg parser ogmtextparse: OGM text stream parser ogmvideoparse: OGM video stream parser ogmaudioparse: OGM audio stream parser oggmux: Ogg muxer oggdemux: Ogg demuxer 6 features: +-- 6 elements snap- 7) ran gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=opensource.ogg ! oggdemux ! vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! dsppcmsink 8) listen to ogg vorbis :-) Conclusion: It works but the cpu load is high. Vorbis decoding takes almost 80% cpu. I also tried MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.8 which has the integer based Tremor decoder codec [4] nicely integrated. Tremor needs around 12% cpu for the same ogg file. (That is an expected scale up from the 770 experience - tremor takes around 20% cpu on the 770 - due to the faster cpu of the n800) It exceeds my skills to analyze this much further. However it seems that the vorbis decoder is not vfp optimized ;-) [yet?]. Hm, and now? Maybe someone who is more skilled than me could verify my results. It all boils down to the dsp! The dsp on the 770 and the n800 is the same. So, a once implemented plugin could support both platforms (770 and n800). -- We need a dsp based vorbis decoder! [I know: demanding is easy - implementing rather not ;-) ] As we wait for Nokia to release more codecs we can try to use the Tremor based plugins for the audioplayer [5] (great work!). Any feedback is wellcome. Regards Krischan [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#VFP [2] http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/ [3] http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/ [4] http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/Tremor/ [5] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mogg/ -- Krischan Keitsch jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4NFj7Nf6kr.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers