Re: [maemo-developers] xbase-clients ??

2007-01-28 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hi,

I succeeded yesterday evening building:
http://thelemming.org.uk/maemo/btmice/maemo_mouse_readme.txt

helped a lot.
additional I had to install compositeext-2.0 from the same freedesktop
source.

But xauth does not seem to be included :-)

But I learnd, that Xvnc has to be build within the x-server sources. As
far as I understand, it is only possible with xfree and xorg, not with
xserver-kdrive.

Does anybody have an idea, how one might setup a virtual screen vnc
server for maemo?

Detlef

Am Sonntag, den 28.01.2007, 08:55 +0100 schrieb Kees Jongenburger:
  As I am afraid xauth may depend on the version of the running
x-server
  on 770, I hoped, somebody may have build the package.
 
 Hi .
 
 II would also be interested in having the Xnest binary. I have tried
 to build the
 kdrive-xserver yesterday but did not succeed( I did not give up yet).
 I guess that anybody building the package can provide booth
 
 geetings
 


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[maemo-developers] Xvfb for maemo?

2007-01-28 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Hi,

does anybody have information on a virtual framebuffer (Xvfb) for maemo?

I could not find it in the xserver-kdrive. 

Detlef



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[maemo-developers] Distribute Python application

2007-01-28 Thread David Hautbois

Hello
Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the 
N800, but :


My package can be installed only in red pill mode.
Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ?

Thanks.

David.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application

2007-01-28 Thread Álvaro J. Iradier

Is the package in the User section?:

Section: user/something

Greets.

On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello
Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the
N800, but :

My package can be installed only in red pill mode.
Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ?

Thanks.

David.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Correct place to enter N800 discount code?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonny Lamb
  On 1/27/07, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When I tried to order my N800 just now, the only place that I could
  see for entering the discount code was on the screen that you get to
  using the Use Promotional Code button on the order summary page.
  But when I entered my code in the box, I got a code not valid
  message.

This is exactly what I am currently getting. I take it you're in the UK,
no?

On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:56 -0800, Ty Hoffman wrote:
 You might also find calling easier, provided you get the right person.

I think this must be the case. On Friday evening I rang Nokia Care.  I
knew this wasn't the right number and hoped to be passed on. After
giving some details to the Nokia guy, he gave me another number to call-
the Nokia Online Shop IIRC. I was told that they would be able to
process my order and would be able to buy over the phone with a discount
code. This is only open from 9-6 weekdays, and I think this is only for
the UK: 0808 2347149. I am going to try them tomorrow (Monday), then
I'll post back here with an update.

Regards,

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Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application

2007-01-28 Thread David Hautbois

No, it's my own package built with the instructions in this page :
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html


Álvaro J. Iradier wrote:

Is the package in the User section?:

Section: user/something

Greets.

On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello
Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the
N800, but :

My package can be installed only in red pill mode.
Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ?

Thanks.

David.

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RE: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance (pCPU versus vCPU featureset mismatches)

2007-01-28 Thread Jason Mills
I'll keep an eye on this issue especially with the possibility of lower end
systems being resurrected to run a single or pair of small current-era
virtual machines.
 
-JMills
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kon Wilms
Sent: Sat 27-Jan-07 11:19
To: Mathias Uebelacker
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] VMWare Appliance


This is a kernel issue with Ubuntu 6.10 running on M, C3 and some other
processors. I have a laptop with an M here. If I have some time this weekend
I will try do a custom kernel as a boot option and hopefully that fixes it.

This is because the 2.6.17-10-server kernel is compiled with HIGHMEM64G
support, which requires PAE, but the Via C3 processor used on most Epias does
not support PAE. You will have to use a kernel without HIGHMEM64G support
(HIGHMEM4G will work, as will NOHIGHMEM).

The same problem occurs on certain Pentium M CPUs. Most other CPUs since
Pentium Pro support PAE.

Cheers
Kon


On 1/27/07, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hello everybody,

i try VMWare Appliance and after the installation and start the
VMWare Player i get an error:

unkown interrupt or fault at EIP xxx

any ideas was went wrong.

br 
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Re: [maemo-developers] Distribute Python application

2007-01-28 Thread Álvaro J. Iradier

Yes, but what I mean, in the debian/control file there's a line that
says Section:.

That tutorial says:

The Application Installer only shows packages in the user section.
Thus, your Section: field in the control file must has the Section:
user/SUBSECTION syntax, where SUBSECTION is arbitrary.

Greets.

On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No, it's my own package built with the instructions in this page :
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html


Álvaro J. Iradier wrote:
 Is the package in the User section?:

 Section: user/something

 Greets.

 On 1/28/07, David Hautbois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello
 Actually, i can build a package to install my python application on the
 N800, but :

 My package can be installed only in red pill mode.
 Do you know how to make a package installable in blue pill mode ?

 Thanks.

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Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007

2007-01-28 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 12:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 there exists various APIs for GPS location data in OS2007. These APIs
 should be used by applications instead of connecting directly to BT
 GPS device. The APIs enable multiple applications to receive
 positioning data simultaneously i.e., one application cannot steal the
 GPS device to itself.
 
 As an example of the API usage, I created wiki page at
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007. The wiki page
 describes geotagging application that uses the GPS APIs in OS2007.
 
 The geotagging tool consists of three parts and they can be found in
 maemo garage at 
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-saver/ 
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-starter/ 
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gtag/

Excellent.

How much of this is open source?

And does it use any existing open standards? For instance, is the
bluetooth GPS data communicated via some standard protocol/format so
that it can be expected to work with non-Nokia GPS devices?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-28 Thread Antonio Gomes

hi,

please follow instructions at
http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/09/minimomozilla-maemo-port-repository.html

regards

On 1/27/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:51:53 -0400, Antonio Gomes wrote:

 No. I had plans to migrate all minimo maemo port stuff to maemo.garage,
 but due to lack of time it is not done yet. About releases,  the newest
 one is 0.16.8-2 in matter of facts, available only at
 home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo/mistral , as you pointed out.

 ***
 *news*
 ***

 * I have tried it on n800, and it works fine. * I started today working on
 a new release, which is planed to land on friday  at the most.

Hello,

So far I am not able to install minimo on N800; deps do not fill in ever,
I'll be glad to know any workarounds.

Please suggest.

Regards,
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-28 Thread Kon Wilms

For the lazy: ;-)

Web address: http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo
Distribution: mistral/
Components: (leave blank)

Thanks for the hard work, Antonio.

Cheers
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Re: [maemo-developers] Python and maemo API documentation

2007-01-28 Thread John P. Mitchell

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Osvaldo Santana wrote:


Hi Álvaro,

On 1/27/07, Álvaro J. Iradier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I'm developing some python applications for Nokia 770, and I think
documentation is not as good as I expected.

1) First, the code in the python tutorial in here:

http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/pymaemo/python_maemo_howto.html


Yes, this document is deprecated now. Please, take a look at the new one at:

http://maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html


2) I couldn't find docs for the Python Hildon API, but I looked at the
maemo hildon API for C, it should be enough:


We've a new API documentation to Hildon and LibOSSO in the package
source files (I don't remember now what is the reason why this
documents aren't uploaded to the site)...

I'll upload it this Monday.


Other entries, like  API documentation control panel, status bar and
home applets are empty too:

http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/maemo-af-desktop-sdk-doc/index.html

(is this available in Python, by the way).


No, unfortunately we don't have created bindings for Control Panel,
Status Bar and Home Applets stuff. We have plans to make it until
June.


Will there be bindings for the address book interfaces? I could not 
seem to find any in the current python 2.5 release. Thanks.





3) I know 'help' command is not available in python for 770, but there
should be another version for scratchbox with 'help' available. It
would be very useful! Maybe it is already available and I missed it?


We can't build two versions of the same package but you can use your
distribution's Python to call help(). We don't include docstrings
inside the Maemo bindings (hildon and osso modules).

Thanks,
Osvaldo




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[maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-28 Thread Anuj Verma (Kevin)
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:49:54 -0800, Kon Wilms wrote:

 For the lazy: ;-)
 
 Web address: http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo Distribution: mistral/
 Components: (leave blank)
 
 Thanks for the hard work, Antonio.

Hello Kon, 

You got it right ! 

I just in time I was trying to install apps from o-hand.com I figured this
one out then. Sorry not so familiar with the repo system of Maemo but
this is a good amount of learning everyday. 

Finally I could try Minimo, sad its not use-able as of now, and crashes,
soft keyboard had been trouble as well. I'll be glad to keep on testing it
further and providing the feedback. 

Here I must say that an Epiphany port for Maemo might happen to be a good
thing, while Minimo might take time or another port of it-self to adapt to
use-ability features of Maemo.

At-least even while using Opera on N800 so far, I badly missed smart
bookmarks of Epiphany. I admit it I am so lazy !

Cheers,
KEvin

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Re: [maemo-developers] New Application catalogue

2007-01-28 Thread Nicolas FR

Yes, it is available of course. We use Midgard as a framework and the
app catalog sources are in our subversion repo:
https://garage.maemo.org/svn/maemo2midgard/maemo2007/applicationcatalog/


Great, I'll make some tests during the week and send some proposals + patches.

Here is what I will be working on first:
- Add a Latest software box on the main page
- Implement a rating system (should only registered users be able to
vote or anyone? If so should I implement an IP based anti-cheating
system?)
- Then add a Most popular box on the main page
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[maemo-developers] fullscreen button and uimanager

2007-01-28 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

So lately I've been making view-manga[1] a litte bit nicer, adding a menu and 
all that fluff. Seems to work nicely, _except_ for the fullscreen button[2].

What happens is this:
- Launch application
- Press fullscreen button
- The window fullscreens alright.
- Press fullscreen button
- Nothing happens. Strange.

The relevant bits are 

https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/trunk/source/main.c?content-type=text%2Fplainrev=21root=view-manga

search for
gtk_accel_map_change_entry(view-manga/file/fullscreen, 
HILDON_HARDKEY_FULLSCREEN, 0, TRUE);

[1] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/view-manga/
[2] Can we please make the window manager handle both fullscreening and the 
fullscreen button? Having every single app handle it is strange.

cheers,
  Danny

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[maemo-developers] unzip: file manager associations

2007-01-28 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

I patched unzip a little bit in order to integrate into the desktop:

URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10_armel.changes
URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10_armel.deb
URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10.dsc
URL: http://www.scratchpost.org/patches/unzip_5.52-10.tar.gz

However, when I click on the file in file manager, I get Unable to open.

I put a desktop file for handling application/zip into 
/usr/share/applications/hildon/. I called update-desktop-database.

Anything I'm missing?

Also, any news how to support desktop actions (i.e. in this case Edit, Unzip, 
Browse, ...) on a file?

Also, anyone wants to contribute a unzip program icon? 

cheers,
  Danny

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[maemo-developers] Re: Newcommer question(emulator/major work/discount)

2007-01-28 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0800, Rui.Zhou wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 Know maemo project for several months and start to do sth for it(or
 learn sth from it) now
 
 Well,The first thing you can do is to download and start using the
 maemo development platform
 
 But before that anyone can tell me something about  maemo briefly:
 
 1.has Emulator?(or must have N800 to test the application? No N800 at
 the moment)

There is a qemu-arm emulator, but last time I tried it didn't support much.
The scratchbox has many tools in different places than the real machine (and 
the tools have different options), so that is also not good to test how a 
program would behave on the device.

So you need the hardware :(

 2.which one is the major work?platform lib or the application?

I don't understand the question.

 3.How to be an Eligible developer to get a N800 at discount price(or any
 discount for Nokia employee)? 

Check the list archives,

cheers,
  Danny

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Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007

2007-01-28 Thread Dave Smith

On 28/01/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 12:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 there exists various APIs for GPS location data in OS2007. These APIs
 should be used by applications instead of connecting directly to BT
 GPS device. The APIs enable multiple applications to receive
 positioning data simultaneously i.e., one application cannot steal the
 GPS device to itself.

 As an example of the API usage, I created wiki page at
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToUseGPSFrameworkInOS2007. The wiki page
 describes geotagging application that uses the GPS APIs in OS2007.

 The geotagging tool consists of three parts and they can be found in
 maemo garage at
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-saver/
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gps-starter/
 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/gtag/

Excellent.

How much of this is open source?

And does it use any existing open standards? For instance, is the
bluetooth GPS data communicated via some standard protocol/format so
that it can be expected to work with non-Nokia GPS devices?

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.murrayc.com
www.openismus.com



As far as I can see, it is just an organised way to spawn gpsd  (
http://gpsd.berlios.de/) , and connect it to a bluetooth GPS receiver over
rfcomm.  gpsd then gives you a socket interface with a normalised ASCII
string of position  info, or you can get the NMEA stream and decode it
yourself.

Regards,
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[maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] New Scratchbox installer for maemo 3.0 'bora' now available

2007-01-28 Thread Ferenc Szekely

Hello,

A new Scratchbox installer script that installs and configures the
Scratchbox cross-compilation toolkit for maemo 3.0 'bora' is now available.

The script and the updated INSTALL.txt file can be downloaded from:

http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/

The name of the script is: maemo-scratchbox-install_3.0.sh

Before starting the installation please read first the updated INSTALL.txt file.

This installer script simplifies the process of setting up the
maemo 3.0 'bora' development environment especially for new developers. The
script automatically downloads Scratchbox from scratchbox.org and takes
care of various SB related configurations for the developer thus
minimizing manual work and potential Scratchbox misconfiguration.

Happy Hacking!

On behalf of the maemo SDK team:
Ferenc
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Re: [maemo-developers] GPS APIs in OS2007

2007-01-28 Thread Jukka Rissanen

ext Dave Smith wrote:


Do you know of any plans to expose these APIs to Python?  I wrote a 
GPS app in Python for the 770, but it really relied on gpsd running on 
another machine, so I'm pleased to see gpsd on the 800 and it'd be 
nice to spawn it off simply from the code.


Regards,
Dave



Sorry, currently there are no plans for Python API.

Rgds, Jukka


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[maemo-developers] Ogg Vorbis and the N800

2007-01-28 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Hi

as far as I can tell the n800 with the OMAP2420 processor has a vfp (vector 
floating point unit; see [1] ) Based on this I wanted to find out if vorbis  
could take advantage of this unit by default.

To make it short: Yes it works - BUT it is just painful! 

What I did:
1) Set up scratchbox for bora -- excellent install script! Thanks! :-) 
2) downloaded the sources for libao, libogg, libvorbis from [2]
3) downloaded gst-plugins-base-0-10.9 from [3]
4) compiled on SDK_ARMEL target
5) copied the libs to the n800
6) called gst-inspect: 
snip-
Nokia-N800-51:~# gst-inspect vorbis
Plugin Details:
  Name: vorbis
  Description:  Vorbis plugin library
  Filename: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvorbis.so
  Version:  0.10.9
  License:  LGPL
  Source module:gst-plugins-base
  Binary package:   GStreamer Base Plug-ins source release
  Origin URL:   Unknown package origin

  vorbisparse: VorbisParse
  vorbisdec: Vorbis audio decoder
  vorbisenc: Vorbis audio encoder

  3 features:
  +-- 3 elements

Nokia-N800-51:~# gst-inspect ogg
Plugin Details:
  Name: ogg
  Description:  ogg stream manipulation (info about ogg: 
http://xiph.org)
  Filename: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstogg.so
  Version:  0.10.9
  License:  LGPL
  Source module:gst-plugins-base
  Binary package:   GStreamer Base Plug-ins source release
  Origin URL:   Unknown package origin

  oggparse: Ogg parser
  ogmtextparse: OGM text stream parser
  ogmvideoparse: OGM video stream parser
  ogmaudioparse: OGM audio stream parser
  oggmux: Ogg muxer
  oggdemux: Ogg demuxer

  6 features:
  +-- 6 elements
snap-
7) ran gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=opensource.ogg  ! oggdemux ! 
vorbisdec ! audioconvert ! dsppcmsink

8) listen to ogg vorbis :-)

Conclusion:
It works but the cpu load is high. Vorbis decoding takes almost 80% cpu. I 
also tried MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.8 which has the integer based Tremor decoder 
codec [4] nicely integrated. Tremor needs around 12% cpu for the same ogg 
file. (That is an expected scale up from the 770 experience - tremor takes 
around 20% cpu on the 770 - due to the faster cpu of the n800)

It exceeds my skills to analyze this much further. However it seems that the 
vorbis decoder is not vfp optimized ;-) [yet?].

Hm, and now?
Maybe someone who is more skilled than me could verify my results.
It all boils down to the dsp! The dsp on the 770 and the n800 is the same. So, 
a once implemented plugin could support both platforms (770 and n800).

-- We need a dsp based vorbis decoder! 
[I know: demanding is easy - implementing rather not ;-) ] 

As we wait for Nokia to release more codecs we can try to use the Tremor based 
plugins for the audioplayer [5] (great work!).

Any feedback is wellcome.

Regards Krischan

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#VFP
[2] http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/
[3] http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/
[4] http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/Tremor/
[5] https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mogg/
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