Re: Maemo contribution guidelines - v1.0 candidate draft

2008-12-31 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Great jobs.

Thanks

2008/12/30  quim@nokia.com:
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_contribution_guidelines

 This has gone through several rounds of feedback and it will be
 considered official as is unless sensible major changes are proposed.

 Feedback and precision are always welcome.

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Adding locales via Extras

2008-12-31 Thread Niels Breet
[resending as mail bounced, lists should be fixed now btw]
[Adding -developers]
On Tue, December 30, 2008 17:05, Jiri Benc wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:46:21 +0200 (CEST), Niels Breet wrote:

 It seems that you are the owner of a repository with some packages not
 available in Extras. Is there a possibility for you to move all useful
 packages to Extras and shut your own one down?

 Done for chinook and diablo, component main. All packages moved,
 repositories deleted.


Thanks for the effort!

 If you need any help with packages that need to brought over to Extras,
  please let me know. We will gladly help you with problematic packages.


 I still have a separate component czech. It contains only one package,
 posix-locales-cz
 (http://upir.cz/maemo/dists/diablo/czech/source/posix-locales-cz_2.5.0-1o
 sso1.tar.gz).

 The package adds a Czech locale support. But it's quite hackish, as a
 locale cannot be just added - all of the installed locales have to be
 replaced to achieve that. Thus, although it is just recompiled Nokia
 posix-locales package, it has intentionally a different name and replaces
  the original locales in its post-install script.

 I know, that's ugly. The question is - is that suitable for Extras? As it
  is named differently than the original posix-locales package, it won't
 be considered as an update to posix-locales, so it shouldn't cause any
 problems for those who haven't installed posix-locales-cz.

 On the other hand, I don't know what will happen for those with
 posix-locales-cz installed if Nokia decides to update posix-locales. It may
 or may not work. It could probably be fixed by some deb dependencies
 magic but I'm not skillful enough in that and don't think it's worth the
 effort.


I would like to hear from other community developers what they have done
to solve this problem? Did you also have to hijack the package or is there
a clean way in doing this?

It seems that replacing the original locales with your locales in a post
install script is a bit evil and ugly. One shouldn't have to do that.

And what if I want to add another locale? I think this is really where
things start to fall apart.

 Thanks for your opinions :-)


I am not afraid to say: I don't know :)



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Re: Removing packages from Diablo extras-devel

2008-12-31 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
Up... :)

In the meanwhile, I wish all of you a very happy new year.

Anidel

2008/12/17 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com

 Any updates on this, Niels?

 Aniello

 2008/12/8 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org

 [list in cc now ;)]
 On Sat, December 6, 2008 22:16, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
  Hi,
 Hi,

  How can I remove a package from the Diablo extras-devel repository ?

 Typically, you don't. But tell me what the problem is :)

 We really need to document what to do in this case. Time to start an
 Extras FAQ, I guess.

 
 
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Re: Removing packages from Diablo extras-devel

2008-12-31 Thread Niels Breet
Sorry,

We discussed this on IRC a bit and the consensus was that packages in
extras-devel are expected to break sometimes. Regular users shouldn't use
extras-devel and leave it enabled.

As nobody else has stepped forward to update the obviously broken package,
I can remove it for you if you really want.

I've meant to mail you back a few times, but somehow I forgot about it.
Let's make it my New Years resolution to not forget to answer your mails
;)

Happy New Year!

- Niels


On Wed, December 31, 2008 12:39, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 Up... :)


 In the meanwhile, I wish all of you a very happy new year.


 Anidel


 2008/12/17 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com


 Any updates on this, Niels?


 Aniello


 2008/12/8 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org


 [list in cc now ;)]

 On Sat, December 6, 2008 22:16, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:

 Hi,

 Hi,


 How can I remove a package from the Diablo extras-devel repository
 ?


 Typically, you don't. But tell me what the problem is :)


 We really need to document what to do in this case. Time to start an
 Extras FAQ, I guess.




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Re: Removing packages from Diablo extras-devel

2008-12-31 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
:)

it's fine Neils :)

If you could remove it, I'll be happy (me and my users).

Happy new year to you as well.

Anidel

2008/12/31 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org

 Sorry,

 We discussed this on IRC a bit and the consensus was that packages in
 extras-devel are expected to break sometimes. Regular users shouldn't use
 extras-devel and leave it enabled.

 As nobody else has stepped forward to update the obviously broken package,
 I can remove it for you if you really want.

 I've meant to mail you back a few times, but somehow I forgot about it.
 Let's make it my New Years resolution to not forget to answer your mails
 ;)

 Happy New Year!

 - Niels


 On Wed, December 31, 2008 12:39, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
  Up... :)
 
 
  In the meanwhile, I wish all of you a very happy new year.
 
 
  Anidel
 
 
  2008/12/17 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com
 
 
  Any updates on this, Niels?
 
 
  Aniello
 
 
  2008/12/8 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org
 
 
  [list in cc now ;)]
 
  On Sat, December 6, 2008 22:16, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Hi,
 
 
  How can I remove a package from the Diablo extras-devel repository
  ?
 
 
  Typically, you don't. But tell me what the problem is :)
 
 
  We really need to document what to do in this case. Time to start an
  Extras FAQ, I guess.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Removing packages from Diablo extras-devel

2008-12-31 Thread Niels Breet
On Wed, December 31, 2008 12:49, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
 :)


 it's fine Neils :)

 If you could remove it, I'll be happy (me and my users).


* done *


 Happy new year to you as well.


 Anidel


- Niels


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Re: Removing packages from Diablo extras-devel

2008-12-31 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
2008/12/31 Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org

 On Wed, December 31, 2008 12:49, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
  :)
 
 
  it's fine Neils :)
 
  If you could remove it, I'll be happy (me and my users).
 

 * done *


My new year's present :)
Thanks.

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xterm cant escape so my cursor is homeless (echo -e \033[H)

2008-12-31 Thread tz
I just tried to do some basic cursor movement using ansi sequences,
but they don't work in the standard xterm.  I know vim and other
things work but they may be using the panels or some other library.
Is this just not implemented, or does it use something completely non
ANSI/VTxx?
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Re: Maemo 'kernel-diablo' packages now support kbuild and standard way of (auto)building kernel modules in extras repo

2008-12-31 Thread tz
Could the kernel-diablo-headers be pushed, symlinked, or something to
/usr/include/linux

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3434

(apt-get install on the kernel-diablo-headers works, but the
/usr/include/linux version is 2.6.16 - I know it will be fixed in
freemantle, but since you have the tree ready I thought maybe a
pre-backport might be possible).

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:19 AM,  jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On behalf of our kernel development fellows maemo team has this short
 announcement to make…

 ***
 The 'kernel-diablo' source package has now been modified to provide kbuild
 functionality. With these changes building kernel modules will no longer
 require the entire kernel sources to be built. Notice also that all kernel
 modules in Diablo extras repository can now use 'kernel-diablo-headers'
 package as build dependency instead of 'kernel-diablo' package. All maemo
 'kernel-diablo' packages can be found from maemo Diablo repository
 [http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1.2/free/k/kernel-diablo/].

 ***

 Cheers,
 //Jarmo

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Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an upgrade?

2008-12-31 Thread tz
Thanks again for fixing this.  I'm did an apt-get update from
scratchbox and am getting the new version (through apt-get source, not
manually downloading).

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Soumya Bijjal
soumya.3.bij...@nokia.com wrote:
 Hi,

 The bluez-utils sources is pointing to version 3.28-0osso6 now.

 Regards,
 Soumya



 Bijjal Soumya.3 (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:

 Hello!

 bluez-utils 3.28-0osso7 in the SDK repository is a costly mistake.  We
 sincerely apologize for the pain this has caused. We have tried to rectify
 it on Friday. But apparently, its source is still not pointing to osso6
 version. As soon as this is fixed, I will post here again.

 Regards,
 Soumya





 -Original Message-
 From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org on behalf of ext tz
 Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 4:53 PM
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Subject: Re: Why can't Nokia/Maemo release consistent versions for an
 upgrade?

 Thank You to Nokia.  Bluez-utils 3.28-osso6 appeared on Friday and I'm
 doing the required fixes to my packaging now.  (apt-get update doesn't
 see it so the Packages.gz generator probably hasn't seen it or
 something is still cached as apt-get source still pulls osso4).
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Re: Contact Manager APIs

2008-12-31 Thread Mario Hozano
Hi.

The Easy API [1] provides an module to manage maemo contacts. It uses the
evolution.ebook API. See the contact.py module at SVN repository.

Regards.
Mario Hozano.

[1] http://easy.garage.maemo.org



On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Deepak Kr. Sharma, Noida
deepa...@hcl.inwrote:

  Hi All,



 I am trying to update any contact using an API but the current method
 updates it using a dialog (a UI).



 Is there any such API present? Can somebody explain me how exactly contact
 management is done on maemo?



 Thanks in advance.



 Regards,

 Deepak
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Download stats for maemo extras packages?

2008-12-31 Thread Jason Edgecombe
hi,

Are there any download stats for the packages in maemo extras or 
extras-devel?

I would like to see how popular the krb5 and openafs packages are.

Thanks,
Jason
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