Re: How to install an applicaiton on emulaor?

2010-01-15 Thread Amit Sethi
Try the app manager in the sdk . you can also aptitude/apt-get to install
packages . But you should first add

deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle free non-free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free


Maemo is much like any other debian based system .


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Lalit Kumar lalit_hed...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello All,

 I am trying my hands on the Maemo platform.

 I have installed the Maemo Fremantle SDK along with scratchbox and Xephyr.

 I have also download the the tutorial document from Maemo wiki.

 Also I tried the exaples in it, they were running fine when  I run them
 using the  run-standalone.sh script.

 But I am confused how to install the application on the emulator( some says
 it as SDK)

 can anybody put some light on this basic question on how to install an
 applicaiton on emulaor?


 Many Thanks.
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Re: Programmatically showing the desktop in Fremantle

2010-01-15 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 00:56 +0200, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
 I'll use this thread for a question regarding hildon-desktop. Where is 
 hildon-desktop developed? In other words If I want a patch to be 
 included in hildon-desktop, whom should I contact?

Have a look here:
http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop

Cheers!
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Extras-devel repository index out of control?

2010-01-15 Thread Marius Vollmer
Hi,

even I have noticed now that apt uses a lot more space than it used to.

One reason is that the package index files in the repository contain
entries for multiple versions of a package.  This increases the size of
what apt has to download, process, and store significantly, and for no
real benefit.

For example, 


http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages

is about 13M, and has 25 versions of conboy-midgard listed in it, and 29
versions of gpxview[1].

I don't know if there is a mechanism in place to control this growth,
but there should be.

I think it would be fine to retain only the most recent version for each
package in extras-devel.  We can still keep older versions in the pool,
and we can even make a extras-history repository that indexes all these
old versions.  But for extras-devel itself, I think having only one
version is best.


[1] But only 5 versions of mussorgsky.  Ivan, release early, release
often!
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Error accessing extras-devel fremantle package index

2010-01-15 Thread Marat Radchenko
URL: 
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages

Result:
Can't locate object method remote_ip via package
Apache2::Connection at /var/www/dhandler line 59.


Trace begun at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Exceptions.pm line 129
HTML::Mason::Exceptions::rethrow_exception('Can\'t locate object
method remote_ip via package Apache2::Connection at
/var/www/dhandler line 59.^J') called at /var/www/dhandler line 59
HTML::Mason::Commands::__ANON__ at
/usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Component.pm line 135
HTML::Mason::Component::run('HTML::Mason::Component::FileBased=HASH(0xa2765f8)')
called at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Request.pm line 1273
eval {...} at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Request.pm line 1268
HTML::Mason::Request::comp(undef, undef, undef) called at
/usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Request.pm line 467
eval {...} at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Request.pm line 467
eval {...} at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/Request.pm line 419
HTML::Mason::Request::exec('HTML::Mason::Request::ApacheHandler=HASH(0xa2a36c0)')
called at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/ApacheHandler.pm line 165
HTML::Mason::Request::ApacheHandler::exec('HTML::Mason::Request::ApacheHandler=HASH(0xa2a36c0)')
called at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/ApacheHandler.pm line 831
HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler::handle_request('HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler=HASH(0xa270b90)',
'Apache2::RequestRec=SCALAR(0xa2a0240)') called at (eval 37) line 8
HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler::handler('HTML::Mason::ApacheHandler',
'Apache2::RequestRec=SCALAR(0xa2a0240)') called at -e line 0
eval {...} at -e line 0
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Re: Package building error with the armel target

2010-01-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster

On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Petite Escalope wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm trying to build a package for the armel target but it fails on this error 
 :
 
 dpkg-genchanges -b
 dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or 
 directory
 
 
 Everything is working with x86 
 
 What's the problem?

In general dpkg-genchanges wants to see a file called debian/files to generate 
a .changes file for the eventual deb. Do you have a debian/files file?

Jeremiah
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Re: Extras-devel repository index out of control?

2010-01-15 Thread Jeremiah Foster

On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:

 Hi,
 
 even I have noticed now that apt uses a lot more space than it used to.
 
 One reason is that the package index files in the repository contain
 entries for multiple versions of a package.  This increases the size of
 what apt has to download, process, and store significantly, and for no
 real benefit.

With the new repository tool we're going to use (reprepro) that problem will 
disappear because it is significantly easier to manage what is in the repos and 
to move old packages cleanly. This will shrink the repos and the resulting 
index files.

Jeremiah
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Re: Package importer down?

2010-01-15 Thread Sascha Makela
I got the same problem. It started yesterday for me.
Thanks,
Sascha
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- Original message -
 Overnight, I've seen a number of packages not being imported to the
 repos after a successful build.
 Is the importer down? Paused? (or overwhelmed? :-)

 Examples:
 http://maemo.org/packages/view/headphoned/
 http://maemo.org/packages/view/pkg-kde-tools/

 Thanks
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Re: Extras-devel repository index out of control?

2010-01-15 Thread Niels Breet
 Hi,
Hi,

 even I have noticed now that apt uses a lot more space than it used to.

 One reason is that the package index files in the repository contain
 entries for multiple versions of a package.  This increases the size of
 what apt has to download, process, and store significantly, and for no
 real benefit.

snip

 I don't know if there is a mechanism in place to control this growth,
 but there should be.

That is on the agenda for this Sprint or the next. But it is something we
will address.

Server move had priority over improvements.

 I think it would be fine to retain only the most recent version for each
 package in extras-devel.  We can still keep older versions in the pool, and
 we can even make a extras-history repository that indexes all these old
 versions.  But for extras-devel itself, I think having only one version is
 best.

If there are no dependencies on older versions, yes.

But we must also not forget that extras-devel is really not for end-users,
so this should not affect a lot of people.

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Re: Programmatically showing the desktop in Fremantle

2010-01-15 Thread Piñeiro
From: obb770 obb...@gmail.com

 Given that if there isn't a good way to do this, then it might not
 be fixed in the Fremantle lifetime - is there an ugly way to show the
 desktop? like simulating pressing the right place on the screen,
 somehow getting into non-public API of hildon-desktop, or something
 else?

One option would use the current hildon-desktop a11y support. But
probably it isn't really useful, as to do that you would require to
install on the device libbonobo, at-spi, cally, etc.

Then you could access to the tast-switcher button and click on it, or
simulate the X event on the screen.

Anyway, as I just said, this solution doesn't seems really
comfortable, and seems a über-workaround.

Just FYI

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Re: Package building error with the armel target

2010-01-15 Thread Petite Escalope
Hi! Thank you for the answer. I dont have this file, but i found the error:

I had Architecture: i386  instead of any in my control file.
Everything is right now
thanx

2010/1/15 Jeremiah Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com


 On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Petite Escalope wrote:

  Hello,
  I'm trying to build a package for the armel target but it fails on this
 error :
 
  dpkg-genchanges -b
  dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or
 directory
 
 
  Everything is working with x86
 
  What's the problem?

 In general dpkg-genchanges wants to see a file called debian/files to
 generate a .changes file for the eventual deb. Do you have a debian/files
 file?

 Jeremiah




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Broken state of repositories

2010-01-15 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz

Hi

On my N900 I have all three Extras repositories enabled (normal, testing, 
devel) to check what is going on in Maemo5 world.

The problem is that some time ago there was (a bit crazy) idea about pushing 
everything from Diablo extras to be built for Fremantle. OK, some good apps 
arrived that way (hail Claws, die Modest) but there are some strange things 
too.

For example: we have Frozen Bubble (awesome game) but it is not installable:

Nokia-N900-42-11:~# apt-get install frozen-bubble
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  frozen-bubble: Depends: perl (= 5.8.3-3) but it is not going to be 
installed
E: Broken packages
Nokia-N900-42-11:~# apt-get install frozen-bubble perl
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  perl: Depends: perl-modules (= 5.8.3-3osso11+0m5) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages
Nokia-N900-42-11:~# apt-get install frozen-bubble perl perl-modules
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package perl-modules is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  perl perl-base
E: Package perl-modules has no installation candidate

How it get into repository is unknown for me - it should not be there as it's 
dependencies should land first.

Other thing: *-dbg packages in extras-devel. OK, this is repo for developers 
rather then users but can't we move such packages into debug section where 
they should reside? Developers will fetch them by apt-get.

Another: usbcontrol - this is 770/n8x0 package not usable on n900 due to 
official lack of usb host functionality. Why it is in Fremantle?

Yet another: all those extras-devel packages which depends on maemo-select-
menu-location package which do not exists at all in Fremantle. We have nearly 
one hundred of them.

Many packages do not have description even - just name of one line of 
information.

Why we have that? Maemo always was mentioned as based on Debian but for me (as 
user of all versions of Maemo) it looks rather like it was maybe years ago. We 
do not even try to get close to it with quality of community packages.

How can we improve situation?

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Clutter and text rendering issues

2010-01-15 Thread Andrew Godwin
I'm not entirely sure this is the right place, but I imagine it's an 
n900-specific issue...


Anyway, when using clutter 1.0 to render text (either the one in 
extras-devel, or one I compile myself), if you change the colour of the 
text at all, it renders each glyph as a white box [1]. I'm not sure why 
this is the case, but there's an unanswered post in the forums about it 
as well [2], so it's not just me.


Any ideas? I would ask the Clutter mailing list, but this clearly isn't 
an issue with Clutter in general, just it running under the OpenGL ES 
implementation on the device.


(I haven't tried with clutter 0.8, since it doesn't have all the 
features I need, but I suspect it works there, as otherwise other apps 
using it would be having issues)


Andrew

[1]: http://www.aeracode.org/static/screenshot01.png
[2]: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=455407#post455407

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Re: Broken state of repositories

2010-01-15 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

Am Freitag 15 Januar 2010 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
 Other thing: *-dbg packages in extras-devel. OK, this is repo for developers 
 rather then users but can't we move such packages into debug section where 
That's the point: This repository _is_ for  developers. You have a repository 
that fixes all the things you complain about: It's named extras. Or if you 
want a little more adventure then use extras-testing.

If you think there's a real need for end users to use extras-devel because of 
some package that you consider end user ready, then get in contact with its 
author and ask why that package didn't make it yet into extras-testing or 
extras,

Till
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apt-get pinning Extras repositories

2010-01-15 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Hi,

Quite recently the extras-testing and extras-devel repositories had a

Label: extras-testing

set in the Release file. This allowed me to use /etc/apt/preferences to
pin the testing/devel repositories to a lower priority, so that I
wouldn't need to worry about getting unwanted upgrades from them.

But recently, these labels vanished from the release file, and the
extras and extras-testing Release files seem identical, allowing no way
to pin them.

Could the repo maintainers add the Label back, so that pinning would
still be possible and easy? (Or is there an alternative way to do the
pinning?)

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Re: apt-get pinning Extras repositories

2010-01-15 Thread Niels Breet
 Hi,


 Quite recently the extras-testing and extras-devel repositories had a


 Label: extras-testing


 set in the Release file. This allowed me to use /etc/apt/preferences to
 pin the testing/devel repositories to a lower priority, so that I wouldn't
 need to worry about getting unwanted upgrades from them.

 But recently, these labels vanished from the release file, and the
 extras and extras-testing Release files seem identical, allowing no way to
 pin them.

 Could the repo maintainers add the Label back, so that pinning would
 still be possible and easy? (Or is there an alternative way to do the
 pinning?)

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8072

I've fixed that, will take some time for it to be visible.


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Re: apt-get pinning Extras repositories

2010-01-15 Thread Pauli Virtanen
Hi,

pe, 2010-01-15 kello 21:14 +0100, Niels Breet kirjoitti:
[clip]
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8072
 
 I've fixed that, will take some time for it to be visible.

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SVN moved permanently?

2010-01-15 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

$ svn up
svn: Repository moved permanently to 'https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/maep'; please 
relocate

Is there anything _i_ have to do about this or will this be fixed on server 
side?

Till
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Re: SVN moved permanently?

2010-01-15 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello Till,

Till Harbaum / Lists wrote:
 Hi,
 
 $ svn up
 svn: Repository moved permanently to 'https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/maep'; please 
 relocate
 
 Is there anything _i_ have to do about this or will this be fixed on server 
 side?
 
The repositories are handled by vcs.maemo.org from today onwards. You
get the message from your svn client, because we did an HTTP redirect on
the garage side. We will not do more. Unfortunately the previous
garage.* URLs could not be preserved.

Please check out your project's subversion repo using the new URL. It
should not take more than a couple of minutes (even less than that for
maep).

I hope that in the long run all garage projects will enjoy the benefits
of today's server move.

 Till
Cheers,
ferenc
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Re: SVN moved permanently?

2010-01-15 Thread Henning Heinold

Hi,

there is an svn relocate command which should do fine.

Bye Henning


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RE: Fremantle Dev - Testing promotion issue

2010-01-15 Thread Nathan Anderson


Erps, Looks like I dropped this thread into the wrong mailing list.
LOL, no wonder I didn't get a response.

Although now the error has changed to:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 104857600 bytes exhausted (tried to
allocate 72 bytes) in
/mnt/netapp/pear/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/_dbfactory.php on line 487

So, I would guess a configuration issue on the size php is allowed
to allocate on the new servers.

Nathan

 

-Original Message-
From: maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Anderson
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:19 PM
To: 'List for community development'
Subject: RE: Fremantle Dev - Testing promotion issue

It apparently isn't just me; someone on TMO also has asked the same
question.   Is this related to the server moves, or does someone need to
kick something on the server to get this to work again.   I can see the
detail page on other peoples packages fine; but apparently if the page is
for my own package it either times out or goes into la la land showing
loading forever. 

Nathan


-Original Message-
From: maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:12 PM
To: 'List for community development'
Subject: Fremantle Dev - Testing promotion issue


I've been trying to actually see the page to promote my cifs
and ntfs modules from dev into testing and the web site has been either
timing out (or going into lala land) for the last day or so.   Anybody able
to poke the machine to find out what is wrong with it.   These are armel
only packages (if that matters?)

Nathan

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Re: SVN moved permanently?

2010-01-15 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 21:24, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote:

 svn: Repository moved permanently to 'https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/maep';
 please relocate

 The repositories are handled by vcs.maemo.org from today onwards. You
 get the message from your svn client, because we did an HTTP redirect on
 the garage side. We will not do more. Unfortunately the previous
 garage.* URLs could not be preserved.

What is the effect on git? Does this need to be more widely
communicated in a definitive page containing what/why/how etc.?

 Please check out your project's subversion repo using the new URL. It
 should not take more than a couple of minutes (even less than that for
 maep).

What is the impact of someone *not* doing this with their working copy?

 I hope that in the long run all garage projects will enjoy the benefits
 of today's server move.

Today's server move: good; however is this a suggestion that more
needs to be done on a project-by-project basis to realise the
benefits?

Cheers,

Andrew

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