Re: Maemo 4.1 Diablo training material released
Jarmo, I wish to thank you and the rest of the team who put together the documentation. It is an excellent and very readable work product. To me, a product is not complete until it has documentation of such quality. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Maemo team is happy to announce the availability of Maemo 4.1 Diablo training material. Here is the announcement http://maemo.org/news/announcements/8fc56f28049811debcf53fcee52907820782/ Here is Training Material itself https://maemo.org/development/training/ And here is Maemo Training section in maemo wiki http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Training I want to thank everyone who has contributed and helped to get this release done. We now have some (actully very good :) baseline for Training Material to continue updating it for Fremantle. Cheers, //Jarmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 WE
Andrew, thanks for sharing that link. The point about Samba support being dropped after recently being added makes me wonder what is going on here. I have to assume that the ability to browse an SMB network share is no longer of value to the average user of a Maemo based mobile device. Not, in my opinion, a good decision if that is what in fact is going to happen. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Andrew Flegg wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, ma...@bitblit.net wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Erik Hovland wrote: There was a slide from the last maemo meetup that I saw as a video. It had the very few details of the next platform. But it mentioned about the next OMAP processor. Well even that is good to know. I believe Palm's Pre also uses OMAP3? Same processor as the next gen tablet, which has the hardware identifier RX-51, an OMAP3430. More info on various threads on ITT, including this one: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25478 The high-level information missing from the first post was announced at OSiM World by Ari Jaaksi: * OMAP3430 processor * HD camera (probably ~5MP) * HSPA data access (i.e. a SIM card slot) Expected dates around Fremantle (i.e. Maemo 5) and a next-gen tablet are here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle Hope that helps, Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Projects Nokia should support (yours?)
Quim, and of course let us allow that those 1 or 2 could include girls as well as guys. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Quim Gil wrote: ext Andrea Grandi wrote: I still don't know if I can propose an application that is not started yet. What counts is whether it can be a complete product when Maemo 5 is released. The beta SDK is expected to be available on March-May, do your math. What also counts is a developer or a team behind that you can trust. 12 totally unknown developers with a great and amazing idea count probably less that 1-2 guys known for developing A, B, C proposing something still cool but doable. This was discussed already at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-October/001143.html You might want also have a look at the rest of the thread starting at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-October/thread.html#1090 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810
Kalle, thanks for sharing that info. That suggests to me that there may be a performance security tradeoff when using the N800/N810 with encryption. Is the software implementation of the AES algorithm fast enough to be useable without noticing a performance degradation on the N800? I surmise that the use of TKIP (RC4 based) encryption would be faster although less secure than AES/CCMP. Do you know if there is any noticeable degradation with AES? Also, is the wpa_supplicant a standard part of the Nokia OS200X or is it a maemo garage type of software component? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Kalle Valo wrote: ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kalle, Hi John, does this driver provide full support for 802.11i-2004 (sometimes refereed to as WPA enterprise or WPA2 enterprise^1 ) or does it only support pre-shared key authentication? Actually the driver doesn't care, this is entirely up to the supplicant (in user space). I have used wpa_supplicant while testing the driver which supports also WPA enterprise (and almost any other method available). Actually currently the driver knows nothing about encryption or decryption because mac80211 encrypts all the frames in CPU. Hardware crypto support is in the TODO list. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810
Kalle, I took a look at the OS2008 wireless supplicant and it looks like it supports WPA and WPA with EAP but I do not see WPA2. That suggests to me then that the supplicant referred to in this thread is NOT the standard one. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kalle Valo wrote: ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kalle, Hi John, does this driver provide full support for 802.11i-2004 (sometimes refereed to as WPA enterprise or WPA2 enterprise^1 ) or does it only support pre-shared key authentication? Actually the driver doesn't care, this is entirely up to the supplicant (in user space). I have used wpa_supplicant while testing the driver which supports also WPA enterprise (and almost any other method available). Actually currently the driver knows nothing about encryption or decryption because mac80211 encrypts all the frames in CPU. Hardware crypto support is in the TODO list. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810
Frantisek, ok, you got me. bitrotting? May I surmise that that is what happens to files, hw software when you throw them in the bit bucket aka the trash-heap of digital history? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Frantisek Dufka wrote: Kalle Valo wrote: I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. Excellent news, many thanks Nokia :-) This saves our N8x0 tablets from bitrotting. And hopefully 770 too. Now it actually makes sense to beat linux-omap into working shape for all current tablets giving them extra life for years. It's using mac80211 stack included in Linux since 2.6.22. I wonder what kernel will Fremantle use. Would be nice to run it with same kernel and switch between wi-fi stacks on the fly. Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community contribution is very welcomed. Will definitely try. 770 support comes to my mind first, current stlc45xx_readXX/writeXX code uses SPI framework, 770 has the chip connected over McBSP port. Should be posible to either resurrect direct McBSP code back or maybe add its driver it into SPI framework. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo SDK VMware Appliance 0.7
Marcello, I went ahead and unzipped/fired up the first of the 4 donwload files and it looks like it is the complete x86 binary of the vmware image. Given that, then what are the other three files? Source code? Also is there a way to connect the TCP/IP stack of the Internet tablet emulated image to the TCP/IP stack of the LInux guest OS? Like an emulator for the 802.11 radio or the Bluetooth radio that runs on both sides, or at least some kind of virtual network adapter? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Marcelo Lira wrote: Jorge, Aniello, thanks for point out the problems, they are fixed now. :) unknown, yes, it's planned. it will be announced here when it's ready. Cheers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Darius, Re routing in general: dynamic self-adaptive routing goes back to the earliest days of the Arpanet circa ~1968. Here are two references on the subject from that period: John M. McQuillan. Adaptive Routing Algorithms for Distributed Networks. PhD thesis, Harvard University, May 1974 (BBN Report 2831). John M. McQuillan , Ira Richer , Eric C. Rosen, An overview of the new routing algorithm for the ARPANET, Proceedings of the sixth symposium on Data communications, p.63-68, November 27-29, 1979, Pacific Grove, California, United States [doi10.1145/800092.802981] http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=800092.802981 I do remember having many discussions with two of the above individuals about those early dynamic routing algorithms. Their early work served as a strong foundation upon which further advances in routing algorithms were made. Much work has been done and published on the subject since the above early articles and the author, John Moy, of one such modern variant, the Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) protocol (IETF RFC#2328 - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2328.txt) has written a book, OSPF: Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol (Paperback) which is available at the amazon.com www page whose url is: http://www.amazon.com/OSPF-Anatomy-Internet-Routing-Protocol/dp/0201634724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1219777530sr=8-1 I have to chuckle when reading the reviews of this book which are very positive overall. One reviewer complains that the material is very dry!. To that review I would say, Wellhello? What were you expecting, War and Peace? It actually surprises me that there are 19 reviewers on this planet who are interested enough in this subject to even read the book let alone write a review about it. I am with them in spirit even though I don't own the book. It surprised me to learn, many years later, in the early 1990's that some commercial switch/router products such as those from CISCO and others had not yet implemented these kinds of dynamic self adaptive algorithms. This realization reinforced my perception that the Internet was, and still is, in fact, a least common denominator kind of place when it comes to technology absorption. The recent vulnerabilities/exploits in the DNS protocol, which, as Dan Kaminsky^1 points out, is one of the oldest protocols on the Internet serve to reinforce my perception. Why haven't we replaced DNS with something more secure, like..DNSSEC? Re: Meraki Meraki is able to keep the cost of their product down by using a single radio for both client=AP and AP=AP link. A better, but more costly approach would be to have a separate radio in each AP for the AP=AP communications. This is in fact how many outdoor WIFI products that are designed for Muni mesh wifi networks are designed. Proxim has a dual radio (1x 802.11g and 1x 802.11a) indoor product, the AP4000, that is designed for enterprise use, and with an enterprise use price point (~$650 US in the US market). The Proxim product supports full IEEE 802.11i security with AES (aka WPA2). Here is the url to the www page at the Proxim www site for the AP4000: http://www.proxim.com/products/ap_4000/index.html 1. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=dns+dan+kaminskystart=0sa=N Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Thanks. Miraki is an interesting solution. Route around interference Meraki protocols detect and route around interference sources like microwave ovens and portable phones. The mesh routing tables are dynamic and update in seconds. Could you provide me with more details how dynamic routing is done ? On Meraki Outdoor ? Three Devices in One The Meraki Outdoor is a high-powered device of many talents. It is a gateway, a repeater, and an access point and works with all other Meraki devices. Interesting is multi SSID feature. Just need user's manual to learn how wireless mesh networks by Meraki work Darius (sorry, replies directed to you stay in draft box). --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi, looking for developers, contact persons for pending P2P VOIP, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Gizmo and the like project. What I am going to learn and work on is VOIP local telephony, like one developed by Robertson. Pls tell me if Gizmo P2P VOIP is still working, at what development state and how to have such project to work peer-2-peer in ad-hoc mode (meant locally, no server based). How to access a list of active users of Gizmo (meant available on and active). Just tested some users and voice recorder is all I can connect to. Any ideas are welcome too. Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Darius, you might also want to look into what Meraki has done with single (802.11g) wireless mesh radio systems/products. http://meraki.com/ They recently secured additional VC so their www site has been upgraded along with their products! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Darius Jack wrote: Hi, could you kindly tell me how to start with VOIP component in maemo ? I have installed Gizmo and works fine, voice quality ok. But I don't need central server . I need local server and ad-hoc peer-2-peer connectivity. Any way to setup Gizmo to run locally, no-server mode, no accessing databases, no charging as local-based wifi use only ? I an say nothing about Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone as not tested yet. To me , integrated antenna solution is not ok for wireless mesh backbone. There is a number of WDS-enabled routers/APs on a market and today called Apple to see how WDS-enabled AirPort works in mesh configuration (unfortunately not tested by local Apple staff ). I just need to know exactly how each specific WDS implementation works (no data yet) and decide or not to write iptables dynamic routing tables on my own. Graph theory for this problem is not really complicated. TSA for mesh networks is exactly what I need to modify to employ network loops for bandwidth management and load balancing. There is a number of self-configurable wireless mesh networks + hardware, decscribed on the net but details how it really works and how any such solution efficient is. I must learn a lot and can write some graphs to describe how I do expect such wireless mesh network should work for me. Some solutions just resemble work of standard switches, replacing LAN ports by wireless ports. Visited Cisco network manuals for standards and procotols again and have to write such protocol, dynamic rerouting , mesh selfconfiguration algorithms from the scratch on myself, drawing a graph of nodes (APs) and simulating connections made and packages tranfer. I did the like job developing Pipes and pipelines at Yahoo. Unfortunately , working alone, it may take me a month or so to learn what I really need and what can be accomplished with standard network hardware available on a market. WDS is my first try. Trying to contact WDS developers to discuss my problem. Thanks. Darius --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 4:35 PM Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi, looking for developers, contact persons for pending P2P VOIP, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Gizmo and the like project. What I am going to learn and work on is VOIP local telephony, like one developed by Robertson. Pls tell me if Gizmo P2P VOIP is still working, at what development state and how to have such project to work peer-2-peer in ad-hoc mode (meant locally, no server based). How to access a list of active users
Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP masquerade shell scripts + dialog - kind request
Darius, your earlier post led me to research a product called Kmyfirewall which is a GUI based front end for iptables that is designed for KDE. I asked the develolper if he knew of anyone attempting to port the front end to the Internet tabled but he does not know of any such attempt. Here also is the sourceforge www page for the project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmyfirewall If I understand correctly it sounds like you one and perhaps 2 issues to address: 1. Traffic Shaping for 802.11 clients to a given 802.11 AP on your network. 2. A convenient way to remotely manage your network using the Internet Tablet as a management terminal (e.g. using SSH, VNC,or RDP, etc.) communicating with your network through the Internet, itself accessed from your Internet tablet via Bluetooth/3G, Bluetooth/evdo, or 802.11 to a public or private 802.11 Access Point (e.g. hot spot). Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi John and others, spent last days learning how to manage bandwidth in my router + server. What I need is dynamic bandwidth management. To have 3 classes of wifi users. class 1 - superuser - full bandwidth access class 2 - users identified by MAC address class 3 - anonymous users (no MAC address entered) What I get with iptables, wshaper is wan/lan bandwidth management. What I need is wlan bandwidth management by users no. , by application, by time of day, date and the like. Remotely assigning wifi access without the need to rebot server each time. Ok. I can run iptables from command line anyway. But need a nice tool with basic graphical interface (dialog is ok) and append and remove/ delete MAC address, to generate iptables rules, when run as a shell script . Another issue is I need my router + server to access wifi Internet as a client and share the same access to wifi clients as a server, with bandwidth management on. Please refer me to some nice places with shell script solutions. thanks Darius --- On Fri, 25/7/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP masquerade shell scripts + dialog - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Friday, 25 July, 2008, 5:13 PM Darius, would a VNC client on your 770 be a solution to manage your systems? If not,why not? Alternatively you install a linux virtual machine on one of your systems and VNC into it from your 770 and then use that linux VM to control the servers in your server farm. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Darius Jack wrote: Hi, I am trying to restrict maemo wifi access to Internet on-the-fly and have one with admin's access ssh and have some preloaded shell scripts running on a server and the ability to edit shell scripts locally on maemo and sent to server to be run to avoid on-line shell script editing while wifi network is suddenly off. Ok. In plain words. I need OS2007HE (or OS2008) running 770 to act as a remote console for a number of servers and APs and to control some servers + AP remotely get traffic load data and more. Not necessary VNC . Going abroad I would like to still have a control of a server and AP, remote rebooting, remote ports closing, add/ remove MAC addresses and the like. So maemo as mobile Linux console. Any ideas, links to some scripting, dynamic iptables, firewall, NAT, masquerade thanks Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N800 as a home automation/monitoring remote
Mike, as a point of reference you might want to talk to someone on the team at Elan who have done this with the N800. Here is the url to the www page of some PR from 2007 about their use of the N800: http://www.cepro.com/article/using_nokia_n800_elan_n800_combines_web_connectivity_with_home_control/ and here is the url to their www site: http://www.elanhomesystems.com/productdetail.asp?id=1 Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* Mike Ferguson wrote: Hi all. I think I'd like to try to use my N800 as a remote terminal for home automation/monitoring and would like some advice about whether I'm thinking along the right lines. You better know up front I'm not an experienced C programmer, but know other languages, and have done some basic C things, they just take me a while and some research. My current thoughts are: *** Client *** N800 (and therefore other PCs etc) used a GIOchannel to connect to server asynchronously, so either server or client can push data or requests to each other. A GTK notebook layout approach for different automation functions etc. Server can push status/change notifications to client which will update button state/image (e.g. light has gone on, alarm etc) A really smart client would be able to request from the server what to display, but at least from now I'm more than happy to start with a hard coded client. Eventually the clients and server should connect over an SSL stream, but that can be a further stage of development. *** Server *** Again written using GLib and GIOChannel. Possibly use D-Bus to connect to different modules/programmes for connection to, say, a serial port controlled microcontroller, usb controlled uC, etc. which do the actual work/monitoring. I've got a lot of the microcontroller side almost sorted already. As above in client section - push changes to client. Can handle multiple clients. My initial questions are: First off, does this whole idea seem OK? Any general thoughts or advice? Are GIOChannels the best way to go for this on maemo, or straight unix sockets? Any good examples around of asynchronous GIOChannel client/server usage I should look at? (I've found a couple of examples, but not many...) Will keeping the client connected constantly to the server (assuming no data is being passed back and forward) have any significant effect on battery life? I.e. Is there a way to minimise battery usage, or do I just not need to worry? Is the use of a D-Bus approach on the server a good idea, or are there better ways? Is anyone aware of a similar project that I can borrow ideas from? And lastly, is anyone willing to act as a mentor to review (bad) code or point me in the right direction for things? I'm not wanting anyone to write the code for me, but just to be able to say things like check out foo function for an easier way to do bah, you probably need to handle X signal etc. But I guess if anyone else wants to contribute and use the code, I'd be more than happy to share or set this up as a garage project at some point, once I know the meager starting code won't be used as an example of what not to do! I'm not in a hurry for any of this to happen. It's all a spare time jobbie over the next year/2 years. Any help or thoughts appreciated. Thanks. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N800 as a home automation/monitoring remote
David, regarding HA protocols, the one protocol that I know of that IS wireless is the Zigbee protocol stack based on IEEE 802.15. I know of one company, Colorado VNet, that has put Zigbee + a wireless mesh router (basic I am sure) into each light switch in its wireless lighting control system. Here is the url to the www page for that product line: http://www.coloradovnet.com/wireless/wireless_system.aspx I have yet to learn how the mesh network gets its initial control profile. The sales person who initially tried to get an explanation for me left the company. I surmise that it is necessary to purchase at least one of their wired=wireless gateways in order to perform the initial config. Colorado VNet have also experimented with using the N800 as a control device although to my knowledge they have not released a product offering that uses the N800. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * David Greaves wrote: Jussi Kukkonen wrote: David Greaves wrote: Surely uPnP would go on the HA server? (the one with the hardwires too) The N800 should just be a client - then the server exposes a view on the hardware (so, for example, it can control multiple actions like lights on, curtains close). UPnP is basically a networking protocol that two or more devices use to communicate over. Obviously all of those devices need to implement the protocol, doesn't really matter if we're talking about a client (control point) or a device that provides services. It depends; from a design PoV I think you would not want your N800 talking to your light switches over uPnP. Otherwise you kinda have your N800 'discovering' random uPnP devices to talk to and not being able to talk to X10 or cbus devices. Many of these HA protocols are not wireless. No, I think you want a consolidation server (HA server, MrHouse) which then exposes a nice structured view of the HA devices via some message passing nw protocol - like CORBA/gconf. Keeps the client lightweight yet able to take advantage of the touchscreen and tablet form factor. David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
N810 Discount Code in US
All, has anyone been able to use their N810 discount code on a e-commerce site that ships to the U.S? If so can you please provide the url to the www site? The Nokia USA e-commerce site is, these days, perpetually out of stock on the N810. http://www.nokiausa.com/N810 -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
N810 Permanently Out of Stock at Nokia USA online store?
All, has anyone been able to purchase the N810 from the Nokia USA online site? It appears to be out of stock on the www site and has been so for a few days. Is this going to change or is it a permanent condition? Here is the url to the www page for that site: http://www.nokiausa.com/N810 -- -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Device Emulator 3.0 Available
All, for those working on platform agile mobile apps, the latest version of the Microsoft (Windows Mobile) Device Emulator, v3.0 is now available. This is the stand-alone release (i.e. does not require Visual Studio to run). Here is the url to the www page at the Microsoft www site for the download: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a6f6adaf-12e3-4b2f-a394-356e2c2fb114DisplayLang=en Visual Studio 2008 will also incorporate this version of the emulator. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Intel Application Energy Toolkit
All, fyi. In noticed this application from Intel while reviewing a recent issue of the Intel Software Network e-newsletter. http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/articles/eng/1631.htm?cid=sw:kmlnews1907a There is a version that can be compiled/installed on Linux as well. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Product roadmap
AJ, interestingly, just today I was driving around the neighborhoods (residential) in the vicinity of Sprints' HQ and there are work crews putting up mobile radio towers of a kind that I have not seen before. Furthermore they are being mounted on telephone poles which is unusual for this area. Given the demographics of the zip codes where these are being deployed, it appears to me that the owner of these radios (Sprint I suspect) is targeting the residential market more than the mobile market but I could be wrong on this. I know that in his commentary to the press, that Sprint CTO, Barry West ,indicated that with the Xohm (WIMAX) service, the cell-to-cell handoff experience, for now at least, is going to be more like 802.11 radio-to-radio handoff than the mobile (voice) flawlessly seamless (tee-hee) handoff process. Nonetheless I look forward to getting one of the WIMAX enabled Nokia Internet Tablets as soon as they become available so I can test/use it on the Xohm network. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, John Mitchell wrote: Agreed. I have thought this exact thing when the 770 was so quickly dropped. Why does Nokia have such problems with communicating with the community that has brought it so much? This eWeek article about Sprint's WiMax rollout (which launches end of April) mentions this: It plans to offer only a data card for laptops and a modem for desktop computers when it kicks off the service, and has no immediate plans to sell phones that include the technology, West said. Other devices will be sold through electronics retailers rather than Sprint, he said. West said he expects up to 10 WiMax devices to be available at the time Sprint launches its service. One of them is a Web browsing device that Nokia plans to sell. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Sprint-WiMax-on-Track-for-End-of-April/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
