Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Kees Blom]

Paul Klapperich wrote:

On 2/7/07, *Andrew Barr* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
> Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio
chip in
> the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)



Not sure on the license, but Andrew Flegg posted it on the maemo-users 
list. It seems the packages list isn't up to date yet, so use the 
direct download for now.


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Andrew Flegg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: Feb 7, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [maemo-users] Radio (was: Contacts on N800)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org 

On 2/7/07, Jens Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> It was in the Catalogue 3rd party software
>
> Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)
>
> * Web address
>   http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/
>
> * Distribution
>   bora
>
> * Components
>   user

Direct download:


http://repository.maemo.org/catalogue/certified/pool/bora/user/f/fmradio/fmradio_1.2.0_armel.deb


Once installed, start XTerm and run "fmradio". Headphones are required
to be plugged in to act as an aerial, but it will output to either
the
speakers or the headphones - there are toolbar buttons to select.

HTH,

Andrew

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Thank you. I just downloaded it, it works. For headphones to work I 
needed to

reboot. It is available as an applet in "Home"->"Select applets..", no xterm
needed I think.

Kees Blom.

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew Barr]

On 2/7/07, David Hagood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

For me, it just showed up in the applications manager when I did a refresh.

The license seems to be a closed license from Nokia - however, the
drivers are all exported to userspace, so I would guess that you could
roll your own pretty easily.


I suspect it has not cleared the legal department and Nokia wanted to
put it in tablet owners' hands instead of waiting.

There is no reason for such a thing not to be open source, there is
absolutely _nothing_ secret here that I could think of...

Lawyers, gotta love 'em.

Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[David Hagood]

For me, it just showed up in the applications manager when I did a refresh.

The license seems to be a closed license from Nokia - however, the 
drivers are all exported to userspace, so I would guess that you could 
roll your own pretty easily.


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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew Barr]

On 2/7/07, Andrew Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
> Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in
> the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)



Ummm, there's a click-through license *groans* That's not a good sign.

Good news is that AFAIK the radio uses the V4L2 API so a free rewrite
or port of existing code should not be such a big deal.

Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Paul Klapperich]

On 2/7/07, Andrew Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
> Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in
> the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)




Not sure on the license, but Andrew Flegg posted it on the maemo-users list.
It seems the packages list isn't up to date yet, so use the direct download
for now.

-- Forwarded message --

From: Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Feb 7, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [maemo-users] Radio (was: Contacts on N800)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org

On 2/7/07, Jens Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was in the Catalogue 3rd party software
>
> Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)
>
> * Web address
>   http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/
>
> * Distribution
>   bora
>
> * Components
>   user

Direct download:


http://repository.maemo.org/catalogue/certified/pool/bora/user/f/fmradio/fmradio_1.2.0_armel.deb

Once installed, start XTerm and run "fmradio". Headphones are required
to be plugged in to act as an aerial, but it will output to either the
speakers or the headphones - there are toolbar buttons to select.

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew Barr]

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
> Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in 
> the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)

> No, this isn't an April Fools - I'm listening to FM radio on my N800 
> right now.
> 
> The application plugs into the desktop, so you have to activate it on 
> the desktop rather than from the application menu.
> 
> Nokia really kept that one under their hats - kudos.

Indeed

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[David Hagood]

Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in 
the unit.


No, this isn't an April Fools - I'm listening to FM radio on my N800 
right now.


The application plugs into the desktop, so you have to activate it on 
the desktop rather than from the application menu.


Nokia really kept that one under their hats - kudos.

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Matthew Allum]

On 2/7/07, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


A user suggests it is:

http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-February/003605.html

> The repoository link did work well for me. Furthermore ive tested the
> fm-radio app from o-hand.com rep. Didnt ever know that it is possible to
> hear radiio with headset connected.

However, I can't see an "fm-radio" app in the Opened Hand repo from
looking at Packages.gz.



Um, I dont know where this confusion is coming from, but we at OH have
never written an app called fm-radio (or even heard of one). We know
nothing about the radio. Sorry :(

 -- Matthew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew Flegg]

On 2/7/07, Andrew J. Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.


A user suggests it is:

   http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-February/003605.html


The repoository link did work well for me. Furthermore ive tested the
fm-radio app from o-hand.com rep. Didnt ever know that it is possible to
hear radiio with headset connected.


However, I can't see an "fm-radio" app in the Opened Hand repo from
looking at Packages.gz.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Paul Klapperich]

On 2/6/07, inode0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose
chips
> [1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though,
but
> maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the
> other operating...
>
> [1] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9262656554.html

Or perhaps it is this one?

http://www.nxp.com/news/infocus/fm_radio_solutions/index.html



I'm betting on the NXP BGB260FM [1]. I took your lead, then did some
googling. It's a combined Bluetooth and FM stereo on a chip, but uses the
TEA5671 as it's FM component. From the block diagram it has seems to have
separate antenna inputs, so I'd assume it's not connected. Or maybe the
quality is just lower than that cheap camera so Nokia left it disabled ;)

[1] - http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/literature/9397/75015439.pdf

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Andrew,

actually what I mean is easter eggs in the hardware, waiting to be 
discovered.


Best Regards,



John Holmblad





Andrew J. Barr wrote:

On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote:
  

Andrew,

maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation  of an easter
egg!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)




Nope.

radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.

  

Best Regards,

John Holmblad
 

 





Andrew J. Barr wrote: 


Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?

/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name 
TEA5761 FM-Radio


Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[inode0]

On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose chips
[1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though, but
maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the
other operating...

[1] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9262656554.html


Or perhaps it is this one?

http://www.nxp.com/news/infocus/fm_radio_solutions/index.html

John
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Paul Klapperich]

Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose chips
[1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though, but
maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the
other operating...

[1] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9262656554.html

--Paul

On 2/6/07, Andrew J. Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation  of an easter
> egg!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)


Nope.

radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.

> Best Regards,
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> > Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?
> >
> > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name
> > TEA5761 FM-Radio
> >
> > Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew J. Barr]

On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote:
> Andrew,
> 
> maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation  of an easter
> egg!
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)


Nope.

radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.

> Best Regards,
>
> John Holmblad
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew J. Barr wrote: 
> > Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?
> > 
> > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name 
> > TEA5761 FM-Radio
> > 
> > Andrew
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[maemo-developers] radio?!

[Andrew J. Barr]

Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?

/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name 
TEA5761 FM-Radio

Andrew
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[maemo-developers] Radio Segment on Norwegian SW Developers

[John B. Holmblad]

For all those Norwegian SW Engineers/Developers on this list,

today's edition of the Radio Program, The World, 

          http://www.theworld.org/index.shtml

has a segment on

New Web Technology 
  The computer application that gets you onto the
world wide web works great on your desktop. But how about your cell
phone? Some software engineers in Norway are designing small, simple
web browser technology for hand-helds and mobile phones. And a
worldwide network of dedicated users is helping them do it. 
Here is a url to a radio station that has a live internet feed::

          http://www.wamu.org/

-- 
Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Televerage International




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