Re: Is my head off center?
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 04:45 -0800, ext mitcheloc wrote: > Okay, I'm not sure if this is already in the code or not but it would > be great for 3rd party apps to be able to access the XMPP layer in the > device. This will let app developers send and receive data safely and > securely from other devices allowing cool peer to peer programs to be > developed (like two-player chess). Well, Pidgin and Avahi are available from Maemo extras for OS2008. Pidgin will allow you to do link-local chat via Bonjour and Avahi will allow you to write other link-local-aware programs. Another package that will allow you to perform link-local chat is the RTcom package that includes telepathy-haze and telepathy-salut[0][1]. Gabriel [0] The home page: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ [1] The .install file for the repository: http://gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=167 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:08 -0500, ext Michael R. Head wrote: > Curious: where is it being marketed as a phone? I haven't seen any > advertising suggesting that. Go to the Nokia Web site and go to find products. There's a dropdown that says "Select a phone". When you open it, it lists the N810 thereunder. Unhealthy... Gabriel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 11:54 +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: > > 10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using > > your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key. > > I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press > the function key twice or longer for it to "stick down" for the next > key press(es?). Yes, all of the keys you'd normally hold are sticky. I'm very impressed with the input method integration on the N810. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
[No attribution line with Modest, sorry...] - Original message - > > Some personal opinions... > > ext mitcheloc wrote: > > 4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device > > while closed. > > But allows making the device smaller. > For some people that's more important. Indeed, the smaller device and sxleeker looks are more important to me; compared with having the d-pad permanently accessible. > > 10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using > > your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key. > > I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press > the function key twice or longer for it to "stick down" for the next > key press(es?). On mine I have the following options for both the Fn and shift keys: * Chorded - i.e. modifier and key held down at the same time; as an a normal keyboard. * Sticky - a single press of the modifier, followed by the right key. * Lock - two presses of the modifier to engage it permanently, until it's pressed once more. HTH, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
Hi, Some personal opinions... ext mitcheloc wrote: > 4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device > while closed. But allows making the device smaller. For some people that's more important. > 5. As far as I can tell Skype doesn't actually do video calling on this > device. Correct. > (though the audio sounds good) I'm wondering how I can video call > with someone that doesn't have an N810? I think Gizmo and Gtalk should be able to do video, can somebody confirm this? > 6. Why is this being marketed as a phone? It isn't/shouldn't. > I mean, I get the VoIP aspects > (and those are very very cool) but you can't really hold this up to your > ear. Yes you can use it in "speaker" mode but you can't use it in a private > way easily and quickly with a headset. > > 7. As a side point, one review online mentioned the keyboard was better then > the E90. I'm sure that can be left to opinion but I have an E90 and the soft > keys on it are much nicer. The reason why the keys are hard is the thinness of the keyboard. Another compromise for smaller size. > 10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using > your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key. I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press the function key twice or longer for it to "stick down" for the next key press(es?). - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:45:58AM -0800, mitcheloc wrote: :12. The price is already kind of high, why charge $130 for the navigation :software? Is it really that good? not in my experience with the N800 version of the software, MaemoMapper is free and better (for me). The unfortunate difference is that Maemo Mapper needs IP conenction to plot routes since it uses and internet service for this rather than local logic. This means unless it's paired with a phone you need to do all your rout planning near a WiFi access point not enroute. Despite that and having paid for the N800 navigation kit, I never ever use the Navicor software. my US$0.02 -Jon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Is my head off center?
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 04:45 -0800, mitcheloc wrote: > Okay, bear with me past the silly title.. > 6. Why is this being marketed as a phone? I mean, I get the VoIP > aspects (and those are very very cool) but you can't really hold this > up to your ear. Yes you can use it in "speaker" mode but you can't use > it in a private way easily and quickly with a headset. Curious: where is it being marketed as a phone? I haven't seen any advertising suggesting that. > Okay, I'm not sure if this is already in the code or not but it would > be great for 3rd party apps to be able to access the XMPP layer in the > device. This will let app developers send and receive data safely and > securely from other devices allowing cool peer to peer programs to be > developed (like two-player chess). I have a couple students working with me to develop an XMPP-based app that integrates VOIP with such an app, so I'm quite sure this is possible. > TIA - Mitchel -- Michael R. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://picasaweb.google.com/demiri.head.wedding smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Is my head off center?
Okay, bear with me past the silly title.. I bought an N800 earlier this year and ended up returning it because of many reasons (i.e. the camera was very poor quality, the picture was off center, etc). Now, I'm a big Nokia fan and in earnest I was able to get a hold of two N810s (one for me and one for my brother/sister in law) hoping that most of these issues would be resolved.. So, in my first few hours of using the N810 I realized: 1. The camera *does not point AT me!!* Instead to center my head I have to angle the device, it does look improved from the N800 but please somebody tell me how this managed to happen AGAIN? Is this product beta tested? I'm sorry for being so blunt but please I spent over $950 on these... Please angle it down too just a degree or two. Aim for arms length! 2. The build quality on the buttons to the left is very poor -- the buttons hit the frame. This only looks to be the case on one of them though. Should I be returning the other as defective? 3. The top buttons on the keyboard are hard to hit. 4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device while closed. 5. As far as I can tell Skype doesn't actually do video calling on this device. (though the audio sounds good) I'm wondering how I can video call with someone that doesn't have an N810? 6. Why is this being marketed as a phone? I mean, I get the VoIP aspects (and those are very very cool) but you can't really hold this up to your ear. Yes you can use it in "speaker" mode but you can't use it in a private way easily and quickly with a headset. 7. As a side point, one review online mentioned the keyboard was better then the E90. I'm sure that can be left to opinion but I have an E90 and the soft keys on it are much nicer. 8. The car mount kit doesn't include the arm for the windshield and is also very tough to get the N810 into without seriously scratching it. 9. The cut outs for the two buttons on the left are not cut out very well nor clear as to their purpose. 10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key. 11. Unless you use your nail the hold button can be difficult to use. 12. The price is already kind of high, why charge $130 for the navigation software? Is it really that good? These points make me really sad because I could probably get a purchase order for about 20 of these things for my family business. (#6 is especially important in this case) Please consider this constructive criticism (minus the heart break over the camera not being angled properly). Aside from those things the device seems to be going in the right direction. Hopefully we will see a version to go use on the 700mhz spectrum when it becomes available? :) GSM would be nice too but it's not a phone right? Is there any chance Maemo could run on the E90 at some point? From what I understand the E90 has the same processor. Okay, I'm not sure if this is already in the code or not but it would be great for 3rd party apps to be able to access the XMPP layer in the device. This will let app developers send and receive data safely and securely from other devices allowing cool peer to peer programs to be developed (like two-player chess). TIA - Mitchel ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
