Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Happy to hear that you have a temporary solution. As Ferenc pointed out garage was never designed to be a file sharing location, it's a version control service for developers. Having really large rootfs images (and debian repositories for that matter) does have an impact on the servers and therefore the quality of service everyone experiences. We can talk and see if there is a need for a place for really large files in maemo.org. Some interest does exist, but I have only heard of about three to five projects where large files would need to be shared. So it's borderline whether it makes sense to set up the infrastructure for so few cases. Tero On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 01:16 +0200, ext Qole wrote: Thank you, Graham, and those who championed the raising of garage.maemo.org's file size limits. I still think maemo.org needs to allow big Maemo and tablet related downloads, but we've got some more time to discuss this now. I have managed to get a stay of execution for a year, by purchasing an unlimited bandwidth hosting account from dreamhost.com for $9.24 for a year. I will update my Easy Debian package to point to the new server this week. You can go visit my new site at qole.org and feel free to download away! On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Monday 27 April 2009 18:40:26 you wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. Of course, the best idea is a Maemo server but if you need somewhere for a limited time, I might be able to host them on my personal Internet server. I have plenty of disk space but bandwidth is limited on my hosting package -- any idea how much bandwidth you use each month? Graham -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Qole wrote: I have managed to get a stay of execution for a year, by purchasing an unlimited bandwidth hosting account from dreamhost.com http://dreamhost.com for $9.24 for a year. and have them revoke that after a month because your files are taxing their server and connection to much... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Andrew Flegg wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 20:18, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. I don't think anyone was suggesting putting the image in Subversion, instead using the garage project's downloads facility. Right. That is not subversion, true. But it is not a proper download service either for such files. Other options: * Amazon S3 storage gives auto-torrent access, and direct downloads: http://aws.amazon.com/s3/ * I've got lots of webspace and bandwidth. * maddler's got maemopeople.org - that may be suitable if he's asked nicely. Cheers, Andrew Br, ferenc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 20:18, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. I don't think anyone was suggesting putting the image in Subversion, instead using the garage project's downloads facility. Other options: * Amazon S3 storage gives auto-torrent access, and direct downloads: http://aws.amazon.com/s3/ * I've got lots of webspace and bandwidth. * maddler's got maemopeople.org - that may be suitable if he's asked nicely. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
New home for Easy Debian?
Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). If I can't find a host for, at least, my Easy Debian rootfs image, I will have to remove Easy Debian from the extras repository. -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
garage.maemo.org seems like the appropriate place. Would splitting the file be a possibility that would allow garage usage (at the expense of end user convenience)? Frank On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). If I can't find a host for, at least, my Easy Debian rootfs image, I will have to remove Easy Debian from the extras repository. -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Apr 27, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Hello, Ryan Abel wrote: On Apr 27, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... It is a pity we did not make it clear enough that the www place is for simple, static web pages and nothing else. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council member Br, ferenc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote: Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... Looks to me like something like Launchpad's PPA (see e.g.: https://launchpad.net/~lizardo/+archive/boost1.38-jaunty) It would be very interesting to have a similar service in garage. Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Monday 27 April 2009 21:18:19 Ferenc Szekely wrote: Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... Sounds like torrent land to me. Maybe a tracker would be enough + a few kind souls with dedicated seeds - and then garage gets only the .torrent files. If this sounds silly or 'been there, done that', chalk it up to me being new here. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs wrote: Sounds like torrent land to me. Maybe a tracker would be enough + a few kind souls with dedicated seeds - and then garage gets only the .torrent files. If this sounds silly or 'been there, done that', chalk it up to me being new here. Sounds like time to dust off apt-torrent. -- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Thank you, Graham, and those who championed the raising of garage.maemo.org's file size limits. I still think maemo.org needs to allow big Maemo and tablet related downloads, but we've got some more time to discuss this now. I have managed to get a stay of execution for a year, by purchasing an unlimited bandwidth hosting account from dreamhost.com for $9.24 for a year. I will update my Easy Debian package to point to the new server this week. You can go visit my new site at qole.org and feel free to download away! On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.netg%2b...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Monday 27 April 2009 18:40:26 you wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. Of course, the best idea is a Maemo server but if you need somewhere for a limited time, I might be able to host them on my personal Internet server. I have plenty of disk space but bandwidth is limited on my hosting package -- any idea how much bandwidth you use each month? Graham -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
