Re: [maemo-users] new 770 hardware : silent Jaaksen?

2006-05-14 Thread Frank W. Kooistra
Andrew 



Thanks for the further info. Raise your tail !   

Ari Jaaksen not so long ago refuted the idea to upgrade the hardware

See: http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2006/01/feedback-2-ways.html

Monday, January 09, 2006
Feedback -- 2 ways

and there has been a conference in the only town with accurate time when you 
flash the latest version :

http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/

Thursday, May 04, 2006
What´s with God and open source ?
Nokia sponsored the Open Tuesday event in Helsinki this week. I gave a short 
talk and then we had a lot of discussion about open source, Nokia, 770, and 
maemo. People were really active and they had a lot of questions. Free beer. 
That was nice!  

I think he would not have  talked like this if new hardware was due. 

Ari Jaaksen 
On Sunday 14 May 2006 02:25, Andrew Barr wrote:
 Hm, maybe you should read this instead of listening to what I just said:

 http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-April/003709.html

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[maemo-users] Is RD mode harmful?

2006-05-14 Thread Marius Gedminas
Hi folks,

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot says

Once root access has been granted, it is recommended to disable RD
mode.

Why is it so?  In what way modifying /etc/sudoers or the gainroot script
is better than keeping RD mode on?

(I promise to put the answer to the wiki.)

Marius Gedminas
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Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe files. This provides more security
than wiping with decimal values.
-- Norton SystemWorks 2002 Manual


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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Sorry for beeing unfriendly and harsh but what have _you_ done in
order to make java working on the N770?
The only thing I can see is that you post like a wild cow messages to
classpath and maemo lists asking for ready-to-run packages(!!) of all
possible free java implementations and clueless stuff like that which
end up with no replies at all.
Maybe it would be better to install scratchbox and start coding
yourself instead of bothering others with your wishes and problems and
making videos of console-java applications running on the N770 ;)

good luck, lg Clemens

2006/5/11, Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi,
 We have obtained a second 770 unit and have produced better
screenshots and videos, which are available at:
http://82.193.172.109/screenshots/

RedHat et al have been making constant progress on the AWT problems when
running on the 770: two bugs have been closed and a new one opened:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27118

We will soon look into a CLDC-MIDP stack. As usual I invite all the
willing to join in.

Best Regards,

--
Philippe Laporte
Technical Director
Embedded Java and OMA DM

Gatespace Telematics
Första Långgatan 18
41328 Göteborg
Sweden
Phone: +46 702 04 35 11
Fax:   +46 31 24 16 50
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread philippe . laporte
Hi,
I am sorry that my strategy does not meet your expectations.  I am
also sorry I haven't come around to answering your last private mail
yet.

Despite Maemo being an Open Source project, not everything can be done in
the open.

I gave a talk at Linuxtag last weekend
(http://www.linuxtag.org/vcc/details.pl?id=321), similar to the impromptu
one I gave at FOSDEM. Both were well received. I had the chance to spend
several productive hours with the leaders of CACAO, Classpath and Kaffe.

My last post included a pointer to various screenshots.  Going along
meeting your demands, what was novel there was SableVM and Swing on the
770, and Knopflerfish OSGi.

Prior to that only Felix OSGi was reported as running, and the screenshot
was from the emulator.

I've been working with Scratchbox since 2003 and it is indeed a great
tool. I've been acting as the bridge between Maemo and Classpath. That's
for the activities I can reveal at this point.

There is a lot more going on. I will post information according to my
schedule. Keep on the lookout.

Best Regards,
Philippe


 Sorry for beeing unfriendly and harsh but what have _you_ done in
 order to make java working on the N770?
 The only thing I can see is that you post like a wild cow messages to
 classpath and maemo lists asking for ready-to-run packages(!!) of all
 possible free java implementations and clueless stuff like that which
 end up with no replies at all.
 Maybe it would be better to install scratchbox and start coding
 yourself instead of bothering others with your wishes and problems and
 making videos of console-java applications running on the N770 ;)

 good luck, lg Clemens

 2006/5/11, Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,
  We have obtained a second 770 unit and have produced better
 screenshots and videos, which are available at:
 http://82.193.172.109/screenshots/

 RedHat et al have been making constant progress on the AWT problems when
 running on the 770: two bugs have been closed and a new one opened:
 http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27118

 We will soon look into a CLDC-MIDP stack. As usual I invite all the
 willing to join in.

 Best Regards,

 --
 Philippe Laporte
 Technical Director
 Embedded Java and OMA DM

 Gatespace Telematics
 Första Långgatan 18
 41328 Göteborg
 Sweden
 Phone: +46 702 04 35 11
 Fax:   +46 31 24 16 50
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [maemo-users] Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-14 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hi,


Despite Maemo being an Open Source project, not everything can be done in

the open.
Sorry but I don't understand this...
I would call myself a lousy developer  but even I was able to build
myself jamvm+classpath including a dirty hack in classpath's gtk code
to make swing work. I don't develop in C nore have I used scrachbox
before.


I've been acting as the bridge between Maemo and Classpath

Yeah, well but what have you _done_ except of posting on the lists and
talking with maintainers . In fact the only mails you wrote are it
does not work, please work on this and that.


I can't help but wonder what are your hidden interests in this.

Well I was just a bit angry about the flood of useless mails in my inbox ;)


Assuming you are honest, please realize your very limited perspective and
stop bothering me with your complaints, and stop assuming they interest
the whole world.

My perspective may be limited, I just wonder why you waste so much
time writing mails to other guys asking them to do the stuff you would
like to see.
You still did not answer my question, what have _you done_ in terms of
writing code? Or why do you hestitate so much writing code?

Sorry for making you feel sad, lg Clemens
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Re: [maemo-users] new 770 hardware instead of software update to add VOIP?

2006-05-14 Thread Kasper Souren

I would not be pleased to find I shelled out $400 for a device that has
been supplanted in just a few months.


Isn't that normal with these kind of gadgets? If you care about that
you should never buy any hardware.

I would actually be pleased to see a new version with a faster CPU and
some more memory And possibly a nornal SD slot.
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