Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble

2006-09-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:38:11PM -0500, Willie McKemie wrote:
 Well, a bit more progress:
 1) I flashed back to Nokia_770_SE2005_5_2006_13_7.bin, which worked 
 fine.  Got information from my DHCP server, used that for internet 
 access, allowed internet browsing
 2) Flashed back to SU-18_2006SE_1.2006~PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin, which (this 
 time) had internet access through my LAN.
 
 I have to conclude that at least some of my prior trouble was caused by 
 a bad flash.
 
 BUT, after installing files from the memory card, I still have the 
 X Terminal failing to start.  I wonder if I should have installed 
 both those curses packages:
 ncurses-base_5.4-4_all.deb
 libncurses5_5.4-4_armel.deb

Probably, yes.

 After installing 
 dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb
 I still do not have ssh access to the 770.

What do you get instead -- connection refused, or permission denied?

(I use OpenSSH myself.)

 I still have not gotten the ApplicationsCatalog2006 thing to work.  
 Maybe that's a cockpit error.  I go to 
 ApplicationManagerToolsApplicationCatalog and try to select one or 
 both of the tableteer URLs.  New seems to not do what I want; it 
 requires me to type in a URL.  What SHOULD I be doing to get one or 
 more repositories specified here?

Precisely that: type in a URL.  Or use copy  paste.  The list of
repositories is in the wiki (ApplicationRepositories), and the
application catalog also should have repository, distribution and
component fields that you're supposed to fill in when you add a new
application, uh, catalog.

 Is there some documentation that I've failed to find?

I don't think so.  If the documentation provided on the maemo wiki is
not sufficient, maybe you can add a sentence or two after you've figured
things out?

 I REALLY didn't expect this stuff to be so troublesome.

Yeah, if we had something like Ubuntu's universe repository, that
could be enabled by checking an option somewhere in the application
catalog, and all popular 3rd-party apps lived there, things would be
much easier.

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Re: [maemo-users] Handwriting problems in osso-xterm?

2006-09-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:55:25PM -0400, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga wrote:
 I'm having problems with handwrting recognition in osso-xterm. I 
 upgraded my 770 to 2006, and installed osso-xterm from repository.maemo.org.
 
 When I select the handwriting input method, each succesive letter causes 
 the letters before it to be doubled, so if I input ls, the 770 reads 
 lls. I've uninstalled and reinstalled osso-xterm to no avail.
 
 Anyone seen similar behaviour? Suggestions?

osso-xterm from http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ does not have this
problem.  Other differences from the original osso-xterm are listed
here: http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm

It has another problem to annoy me instead:
http://maemo-hackers.org/ticket/25

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Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble

2006-09-20 Thread Willie McKemie
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 08:05:40PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
 
  After installing 
  dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb
  I still do not have ssh access to the 770.
 
 What do you get instead -- connection refused, or permission denied?

no route to host
DHCP server has given the 770 192.168.110.248, which is reasonable; my 
local subnet is 192.168.110.x.
Host attempting to ssh into 770 gets many response from other hosts 
with:
ping -b 192.16.110.0
Since I haven't set up any user accounts on the 770, I don't know what 
to expect when I ssh into the 770.
 
 (I use OpenSSH myself.)

I'll put openssh in my ever growing list of things to try.  :-)


 
  I still have not gotten the ApplicationsCatalog2006 thing to work.  
  Maybe that's a cockpit error.  I go to 
  ApplicationManagerToolsApplicationCatalog and try to select one or 
  both of the tableteer URLs.  New seems to not do what I want; it 
  requires me to type in a URL.  What SHOULD I be doing to get one or 
  more repositories specified here?
 
 Precisely that: type in a URL.  Or use copy  paste.  The list of
 repositories is in the wiki (ApplicationRepositories), and the
 application catalog also should have repository, distribution and
 component fields that you're supposed to fill in when you add a new
 application, uh, catalog.

It appears that it is set up to automatically use 
http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user
and
http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user
Not so?  I guess not, it is clearly not working for me.  I'll try 
manually entering some other repositories.  Thanks for pointing me 
toward the complete repository list in the wiki.  If I just had a term, 
I could probably get it going.  Even better, if I could ssh into the 
770 and use a real keyboard.

 
  Is there some documentation that I've failed to find?
 
 I don't think so.  If the documentation provided on the maemo wiki is
 not sufficient, maybe you can add a sentence or two after you've figured
 things out?

I will.  IF I ever get the thing figured out.

   I REALLY didn't expect this stuff to be so troublesome.
 
 Yeah, if we had something like Ubuntu's universe repository, that
 could be enabled by checking an option somewhere in the application
 catalog, and all popular 3rd-party apps lived there, things would be
 much easier.

I could deal with the scattered packages in scattered repositories.  I 
was speaking of the trouble I've had
1) getting a term up
2) getting ANY packages installed and working
3) getting access to repositories.

Wouldn't it be nice.. if there were a flashable image that had 
term, mc, and ssh built in.

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Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble

2006-09-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:06:23 -0500 Willie McKemie mckemie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 08:05:40PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
  
   After installing 
   dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb
   I still do not have ssh access to the 770.
  
  What do you get instead -- connection refused, or permission denied?
 
 no route to host

This is what happens when the 770 is offline, or you use a wrong IP address.

 DHCP server has given the 770 192.168.110.248, which is reasonable; my 
 local subnet is 192.168.110.x.
 Host attempting to ssh into 770 gets many response from other hosts 
 with:
 ping -b 192.16.110.0

But does it get a ping response from 192.168.110.248?

 Since I haven't set up any user accounts on the 770, I don't know what 
 to expect when I ssh into the 770.

A password prompt followed by a Permission denied error.

You need to either use SSH pubkey authentication (and specify the username
'user'), or log in as root and set a password for the 'user' account.

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] will work with the password 'rootme'.  That's
probably not what you want in the long term.  I suggest changing the
root password.  (Or locking the root account with 'passwd -l' after you've
set up pubkey auth and granted the user 'user' full sudo rights.)

  (I use OpenSSH myself.)
 
 I'll put openssh in my ever growing list of things to try.  :-)

Easiest way to install it: first install becomeroot and xterm (and remove
dropbear), then open a terminal and do

  sudo su
  apt-get install ssh

Alternatively, if you're happy with dropbear, stick with it.  I think it is
supposed to be smaller.

 It appears that it is set up to automatically use 
 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user
 and
 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user
 Not so?

Yes, but those repositories do not contain anything interesting (yet).

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Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble

2006-09-20 Thread Willie McKemie
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:22:31PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
After installing 
dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb
I still do not have ssh access to the 770.
   
   What do you get instead -- connection refused, or permission denied?
  
  no route to host
 
 This is what happens when the 770 is offline, or you use a wrong IP address.
 
  DHCP server has given the 770 192.168.110.248, which is reasonable; my 
  local subnet is 192.168.110.x.
  Host attempting to ssh into 770 gets many response from other hosts 
  with:
  ping -b 192.16.110.0
 
 But does it get a ping response from 192.168.110.248?

---
sarge-netinstall-b:~# ssh 192.168.110.248
ssh: connect to host 192.168.110.248 port 22: No route to host
sarge-netinstall-b:~# ping 192.168.110.248
PING 192.168.110.248 (192.168.110.248) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.110.223 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.110.223 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
---
sarge-netinstall-b:~# ping 192.168.110.0 -b
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
PING 192.168.110.0 (192.168.110.0) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.110.223: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.157 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.110.16: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=9.44 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.238: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=10.0 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.25: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=23.9 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.21: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=35.5 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=70.7 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.23: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=86.5 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.224: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=96.3 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.117: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=106 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.228: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=108 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.115: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=110 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.212: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=112 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.110.223: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.112 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.110.238: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=4.47 ms (DUP!)
---
The 770 THINKS it's online.  I didn't know whether or not the 770 would 
respond to a ping even if it's configured correctly.
ConnectionManagerInternetConnectionIPAddress gives the right stuff.  
And it browses through my gateway.

Thanks for the directions on using ssh.

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Re: [maemo-users] Flash to 2006 trouble

2006-09-20 Thread Willie McKemie
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 11:22:31PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
  It appears that it is set up to automatically use 
  http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user
  and
  http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user
  Not so?
 
 Yes, but those repositories do not contain anything interesting (yet).

Alright, I've manually added a couple of repositories and get the same 
(no) results.  I get a download window, but little or no activity.  
Looking at the log, I see all failed to fetch and couldn't stat 
source lines.

I do Debian stuff on this LAN all the time with no such trouble.  
I CAN download Maemo .debs from a laptop connected to the same wireless 
AP as the 770 and move the .debs to the 770 for file install.  
It sure looks like the 770 is not happy with my LAN.  
But, it browses.  I'm stumped.  I noticed one other poster is having a 
problem that may be the same as mine.  No one else?

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