Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
On 11/30/06, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: Remembering, of course, that 99%+ of the 770s sold have been, IMHO, *not* on contract, but with the end user paying the full retail price. Why would the 770 be sold by mobile phone companies in the first place? And if so, why would there be a service agreement tied to it? That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Following from this *and* the 770's fairly (let's be nice :-)) /niche/ market, the 870/780/880/whatever needs to be both a compelling device for new buyers AND a compelling upgrade for existing 770 owners! All IMHO, of course :-) Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds vaguely obscene, and if there's one thing I cannot *stand*, it's vagueness. -- Dean Grennell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] OS 2006 updates announcement
Hi, I recently found out (more or less by chance) that the OS 2006 was updated some while ago (to version 2.2006.39-14). Does anybody know of a list (or RSS feed) that announces such news? -eyal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
2006/12/4, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold by operators with contracts. Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts, doesn't fit their needs. Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it, there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in love with it. Joel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Hello, On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 11:59 +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Just jumping in on this: here in Austria I guess 80-90% of phones are sold by mobile operators including a contract (binding customers usually for 24 months). The phones are usually SIM/Network-locked and also branded by the operator, but usually way cheaper than when buying them without contract (most low end phones are given away with the contract for free), which is probably the reason why they do get sold that way at all. So this artificial market does exist, and the manufacturers do produce crappy phones for this market, because customers don't invest money to buy them (well, at least not directly, of course the binding contract costs money) and will not complain as much as if they had bought it for the retail price. No idea about the rest of Europe (even though in .fi I remember most people wondering about SIM-locked phones as well), so maybe it's just the usual Austrian way of being a bit behind the times. ;) Kind regards WK -- Using Unison on the Nokia 770 http://linux.spiney.org/debian_linux_maemo_nokia_770_unison_port ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
On Mon Dec 4 10:59:27 2006, Frantisek Dufka wrote: Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Not in the UK, at least. In the UK, the majority of phones - especially higher end ones - are bought with a pay-monthly contract. This either lowers the price or renders the phone free, but in return, also locks the phone to a specific operator. I'm pretty sure this is a common pattern thoughout much of Europe - our operators include T-Mobile (so I assume the same applies in Germany), and Orange, which is French owned. Even prepay phones are heavily subsidized by the operators, although by no means as much, and the phone selection is much more limited anyway. This leads me to suspect that actually the operators could provide subsidized 770s, since a 770 owner is more likely to use increased mobile data, which in turn the operators can recoup the costs from. But they don't, perhaps because it's a whole new area to them that they'd much rather stay out of, perhaps because they perceive it as too much of a niche market, and perhaps because unlike the phones, which they can essentially customize to their services, they'd never have the same degree of control over the 770. Whatever the reasons, though, this does eliminate a large selling tool that Nokia's phones have, which was Jonathan's point. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
[...] Just jumping in on this: here in Austria I guess 80-90% of phones are sold by mobile operators including a contract (binding customers usually for 24 months). The phones are usually SIM/Network-locked and also branded by the operator, but usually way cheaper than when buying them without contract (most low end phones are given away with the contract for free), which is probably the reason why they do get sold that way at all. [...] In Spain this is also true. People usually buy their phones branded/locked by operators. The non-locked unbranded phones are denominated free, and in the last year or so their are also sold in big commercial stores, so I guess their sales are growing a lot... but most of the people I know have a branded phone. -- Eloi Crespillo Itchart ZEN Programari lliure i xarxes SLL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ikuszen.com | www.grupoikusnet.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Wolfgang Karall wrote: Just jumping in on this: here in Austria I guess 80-90% of phones are sold by mobile operators including a contract (binding customers usually for 24 months). The phones are usually SIM/Network-locked and also branded by the operator, but usually way cheaper than when buying them without contract (most low end phones are given away with the contract for free), which is probably the reason why they do get sold that way at all. Well, so maybe we are lucky in Czech Republic after all. That number 70% of customers with prepaid cards I found in some press release of one operator here. I also found we currently have 11.45 milion active SIM cards (population is less that 10milion) so it means 114 active cards to 100 people. Sim locking was used here too but it was abandoned year or two ago by all operators. Probably because customers hated such phones. It was harder to use when switching prepaid cards and harder to sell them second hand. Phones are branded too which is still reason why not to buy them :-) They are (IMHO) cheaper only if you really call a lot (i.e being a businessman with expensive contract) otherwise even 'discounted' operator phones (even with contract) are still a bit more expensive or have similar price like regular ones you buy on each corner. Also young people switch phones like socks (I mean often :-) so new 'discounted' phone after two years of contract is not very attractive. As for operators all three we have were local but were recently bought one by one by T-mobile, Vodafone and O2 so maybe things will get worse. But maybe not. But we have similar monopolistic behaviour with banks. You pay monthly fee for simply having bank account and then pay for each little thing you do (local money transfers both for send and receive, drawing cash from ATM, ...). Banks were recently sold too but this still remains. One bank here recently cancelled fees when you receive money because some people wanted to annoy co-worker and told friends to send him 1CZK via money transfer and he had to pay hundreds (incoming fee was 5CZK) and balance went below zero. It was a bit medialized then :-) But this is really off topic now :-) Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
If the 870 had a pull-out keyboard, that would be compelling enough for me. Otherwise, I'd probably skip a generation or two. K -- Sent from my Nokia 770 http://astroturfgarden.com - Original message - From: Jonathan Matthews-Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Mon Dec 4 2006 04:29:32 AM EST Subject: Re: [maemo-users] 770 on the way On 11/30/06, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: Remembering, of course, that 99%+ of the 770s sold have been, IMHO, *not* on contract, but with the end user paying the full retail price. Why would the 770 be sold by mobile phone companies in the first place? And if so, why would there be a service agreement tied to it? That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Following from this *and* the 770's fairly (let's be nice :-)) /niche/ market, the 870/780/880/whatever needs to be both a compelling device for new buyers AND a compelling upgrade for existing 770 owners! All IMHO, of course :-) Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds vaguely obscene, and if there's one thing I cannot *stand*, it's vagueness. -- Dean Grennell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold by operators with contracts. Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts, doesn't fit their needs. Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it, there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in love with it. Joel Hi there, The internet shop is not the only point of sale. Nokia 770 does sell in several retail chains, for example El Corte Ingles used to have them, CompUSA seems to have them too and I even saw them on sale at airport in Venice;-) However they are not on offer in the usual mobile operator stores, with the notable exception of the Nokia Flagship Stores (AFAIK). Br, --jakub ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] dependencies in maemopad+
Kemal, I tried to install maemopad+ on a scirocco system. I am wondering now, if the dependency on sqlite is wrong and should be sqlite3 instead. Thanks, Rainer Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -i maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb Selecting previously deselected package maemopadplus. (Reading database ... 11836 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking maemopadplus (from maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of maemopadplus: maemopadplus depends on sqlite (= 3.0); however: Package sqlite is not installed. dpkg: error processing maemopadplus (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: maemopadplus Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -s sqlite3 Package: sqlite3 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: user/misc Installed-Size: 28 Maintainer: Cezary Jackiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: armel Version: 3.3.8-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libreadline4 (= 4.3-1), libsqlite3-0 (= 3.3.8) Suggests: sqlite3-doc Description: A command line interface for SQLite 3 SQLite is a C library that implements an SQL database engine. Programs that link with the SQLite library can have SQL database access without running a separate RDBMS process. Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] dependencies in maemopad+
There seems to be no problem when forcing maempad+ (i.e. it runs well): Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg --force-depends -i maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb (Reading database ... 11858 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace maemopadplus 0.23 (using maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement maemopadplus ... dpkg: maemopadplus: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request: maemopadplus depends on sqlite (= 3.0); however: Package sqlite is not installed. Setting up maemopadplus (0.23) ... Cache file created successfully. Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# Thanks, Rainer Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 17:59 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: Kemal, I tried to install maemopad+ on a scirocco system. I am wondering now, if the dependency on sqlite is wrong and should be sqlite3 instead. Thanks, Rainer Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -i maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb Selecting previously deselected package maemopadplus. (Reading database ... 11836 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking maemopadplus (from maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of maemopadplus: maemopadplus depends on sqlite (= 3.0); however: Package sqlite is not installed. dpkg: error processing maemopadplus (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: maemopadplus Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -s sqlite3 Package: sqlite3 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: user/misc Installed-Size: 28 Maintainer: Cezary Jackiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: armel Version: 3.3.8-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libreadline4 (= 4.3-1), libsqlite3-0 (= 3.3.8) Suggests: sqlite3-doc Description: A command line interface for SQLite 3 SQLite is a C library that implements an SQL database engine. Programs that link with the SQLite library can have SQL database access without running a separate RDBMS process. Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). Certainly everyone I know in the UK gets a phone as part of the line rental package (or at least discounted by it) from their service provider/operator (e.g. Vodafone, Orange, etc.). Seems like there are major differences within Europe too (not too surprisingly). Regards, Simon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Aw: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Hello there are several stores in germany which sell the device with contracts, expes. with upgrades that meens that the customers have a mobile and gget the device cheaper. - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: maemo-users@maemo.org Gesendet: Mo., 4. Dez. 2006 12:24:05 CET Betreff: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold by operators with contracts. Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts, doesn't fit their needs. Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it, there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in love with it. Joel Hi there, The internet shop is not the only point of sale. Nokia 770 does sell in several retail chains, for example El Corte Ingles used to have them, CompUSA seems to have them too and I even saw them on sale at airport in Venice;-) However they are not on offer in the usual mobile operator stores, with the notable exception of the Nokia Flagship Stores (AFAIK). Br, --jakub Attachment:___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Crashing 770
Shivkumar, ... whenever I start GPE calendar after a long break it always crashes. It requires a second attempt to come up. Report this at http://bugzilla.handhelds.org/. I think that hildon may kill apps that take too long to start, and if you have many calendar entries you may be getting bitten by this. I had a similar problem with my calendar when I first upgraded to ITOS2006, I believe gpe-cal was doing some database cleanup during the first startup that took too long and it was consistently crashing (or being killed) on startup. For me, running gpe-calendar once from an xterm using run-standalone.sh allowed the first run to complete and I haven't had trouble since (with about 650 calendar entries). You're problem may be different and/or unrelated, but I would try using run-standalone.sh and see if that improves things, and also see if Florian has anything to say. Thanks, Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way
Hi, all This entire thread seems to be referring to the Nokia N770 as a phone, which it is certainly not unless one considers GoogleTalk a phone feature of the like of GSM and UMTS phones. The N770 is a pocket computer first and foremost. It does come from a company that, among other things, is well known for phones. B.R. - Original Message - From: Mathias Uebelacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Aw: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way Hello there are several stores in germany which sell the device with contracts, expes. with upgrades that meens that the customers have a mobile and gget the device cheaper. - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: maemo-users@maemo.org Gesendet: Mo., 4. Dez. 2006 12:24:05 CET Betreff: RE: [maemo-users] 770 on the way That was sort of my *point* :-) I was attempting (badly!) to make the point that the usual product pattern for Nokia/SE/whoever - where they release some new, interesting device and then release incremental/facelift upgrades that'll support themselves through the artificially buoyed up market of telco contracts - may not be very well suited to the full-price, no-contract-available 770 upgrade. Are you from US? Because most people around me (and I guess generally in Europe) buy their phones themselves and not from mobile operator. Operators offer phones too, yes, but they are generally overpriced, outdated and the choice is limited. Maybe companies use this but for average person it does not make sense. Phones and cellular operators are different things. Or do you buy TV from your cable/TV operator? Also majority of people here (70%) use prepaid cards without contract and even have more such cards from different operators and swap them in one phone. Maybe mobile market is more competitive in Europe (or in my country)? I remember phones bought from operators were blocked in firmware to prevent using with other cellular networks but this is history too (maybe noone bought such phones?). So to sum it up I don't think such artifical market exist here or is too important and manufacturers can produce crappy phones because of this. Frantisek As far as I know, here, in France, most of the phones are sold by operators with contracts. Well, I guess the N770, since it can't be sold with contracts, doesn't fit their needs. Anyway It would be cool if it could be sold in stores instead of nokia's internet shop only. If people could try it before buying it, there'd be many more sales. Everybody who put a hand on mine felt in love with it. Joel Hi there, The internet shop is not the only point of sale. Nokia 770 does sell in several retail chains, for example El Corte Ingles used to have them, CompUSA seems to have them too and I even saw them on sale at airport in Venice;-) However they are not on offer in the usual mobile operator stores, with the notable exception of the Nokia Flagship Stores (AFAIK). Br, --jakub Attachment: -- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] To the Maemo-Users List Manager: Setting the default reply to: for this list
How about setting the default reply-to for the maemo-users list to maemo-users rather than to each individual list contributer. This way, replies would be posted back to the list by default rather than being sent to the one person to whose point/question/comment one is immediately replying. B.R., ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] To the Maemo-Users List Manager: Setting the default reply to: for this list
I second that ... On 12/4/06, Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about setting the default reply-to for the maemo-users list to maemo-users rather than to each individual list contributer. This way, replies would be posted back to the list by default rather than being sent to the one person to whose point/question/comment one is immediately replying. B.R., ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] To the Maemo-Users List Manager: Setting the default reply to: for this list
On 12/4/06, Paule Ecimovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about setting the default reply-to for the maemo-users list to maemo-users rather than to each individual list contributer. This way, replies would be posted back to the list by default rather than being sent to the one person to whose point/question/comment one is immediately replying. I mentioned that previously and some people reacted strongly (see thread titled Mailing list Reply-to). There are some out there that are passionate about having automatic list-mailers not rewriting the headers of emails. I don't care strongly enough to argue about it though. Just be forewarned :] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Should I change repos?
Hi all, I was trying to make Canola work. I wasn't able to make it work and suddenly I noticed the installation instructions dictate to change the repo distro to scirocco if I have 2.2006.39-14 (which I have). So, my question is: should I edit all mistral occurrences to scirocco? Thanks! -- ::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm --- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
