RE: [maemo-users] editor
Hi, But I must say that the first thing that prevent to use the device to do programm is the lack of a good editor adatpted to it. Slightly off-topic and maybe? a little bit flamebait, but I have never found an editor adapted for programming that wasn't a pain to use in UN*X. You mean graphical editor or text mode editor? I guess you dislike vi like I do, so here is a list of other editors: Modern graphical UI: - kate (KDE text editor, works fine on Gnome, this is my favourite, very similar to UltraEdit editor on Windows) - gedit (Gnome text editor, this has nearly the same feature set as Kate, but some little things are missing) Older style graphical UI: - XEmacs (Emacs for X, with non-standard UI) Text mode editors: - nano (small text mode editor which is easy to use) - nano-tiny (about the same as nano, but smaller footprint) - pico (looks pretty much the same as nano and is also easy to use, but not very advanced for programming, especially easy for those who have used pine text mode mail program) - emacs (the traditional editor for linux etc., some people love it, some hate it because of the commands being CTRL+X+CTRL+...+..., in my opinion still a lot more user friendly and intuitive than vi). - then there is the vi and vim for those who have different modes in their brain for typing and moving the cursor. You can play Kraftwerk-robot with this one. Some love vi and some hate it. Of the top of my head it should be able to do: - Unicode (including double-width characters) kate can do I guess - non-variable width fonts (having a variable width font in kate can do that too any kind of entry field is an accident waiting to happen) - undo Of course kate has this - virtual word wrapping (and I do mean _words_, not wrapping individual characters, like emacs does the latter) I guess kate does this - If the new line after virtual word wrapping is still too long, then insert a virtual linebreak inside it anyway, until it's fitting into the width of the client area I guess kate does this - syntax highlighting (a simple finite state machine dumpfile is enough, ala joe's own editor) kate does this - search / replace without 36 random reserved characters (while regexps are nice, being _forced_ to use them is a pain, especially when searching replacing in a text that is itself a regexp ;)) kate has search-replace which works perfectly to me - command line option to jump to line/column number on load Well Kate don't have this most likely. However, when you load the text, you can CTRL+G and type the line number where you want to go. - interface for filling extra columns like: - line number kate has this - breakpoint (modifyable) you should check out some IDEs if you need breakpoints - misc user-defined flag - line currently debugging on you should check out some IDEs if you need these - (subversion) blame annotation you should check out some IDEs if you need breakpoints - (subversion) line last changed on date you should check out some IDEs if you need breakpoints - line the user is currently on kate has this - line the other people viewing this file are currently on nope - and so on... - folding of blocks kate has this - virtual concatenation of files (I'd really prefer the _filesystem_ to support that, but...) ?? - every time someone writes . and then pauses for 1 second, call external tool (with all the text on stdin?) (Intellisense :)) ??? - every time I press the Newline key in order to create a new line, repeat the leading whitespace from the line I came from on the new line (and I mean, exactly, not expanding tabs, not grouping spaces into tabs, not trying to backstab me, ...) kate puts indent characters there, which means spaces if the person likes to keep the file human readable with any editor / viewer etc. - keep the file open while editing, so it shows up inside /proc/pid/fd/ (or lsof). No really, nobody's gonna die of that one file descriptor. - double-clicking on a word selects it. A word is delimited by one of )}]. If one really must make it more complex, ignore (only) trailing punctuation in that selection. I think kate does pretty well with double click selecting, works about the same as in UltraEdit. User interface: - no (control-..., whatever) key combinations for essential stuff The standard UI way in all modern desktop environments including Gnome, KDE, Windows, MacOSX is: CTRL-C for copy CTRL-X for cut CTRL-V for paste I am pretty sure you want to have the standard CTRL-something keys on place. - no mode-change keys (that means you, vi) (having to change mode 5 times or more in 1 minute is too much) (that does include not having stuck keys like Ctrl-K) kate doesn't have different modes, it is always available - have function keys that actually do something (and I do mean like Save, Search, ... and not inserting gibberish into the text ;)) I think kate has this - being able to move whereever I
Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770
Dear Sebas, don be so hard on yourself.. it is because of your blog i tried the installation again, and it worked finally on my unit. Now at least i have some chance to port our department's middleware to test it on the 770, and see whether can i trick my prof to believe in the nokia 770 :) keep up the good work, and let's do more tests and trials. regards, wahlau On 30/01/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm so sorry... Really, I'm terribly ashamed. My Java experiment didn't work properly. It was just a misunderstanding. It is true that the online banking pages started to work good after installing that JVM, but it was a coincidence. I've tested it and realized that those online banks don't run java applets on their sites. What really happened is that after installing the minimo, java and other related packages, I probably updated a damaged library that blocked me from entering those banking sites previously to the JVM installation. Fucking idiot (I am). 2007/1/27, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 1/26/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wahlau: (snip) So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you wait a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map view and even satellite or hybrid view if you like. I think we may have a misunderstanding here. Google Maps is based on JavaScript --no relation to Java-- and works without a JVM. I have a 770 that has been freshly flashed which shows Google Maps just fine. Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Some feedback for the new version 3 IT2006 on the 770 The web browser (opera 8.02) and flash player (6.0.82.2) are still the same version and still crash (as in browser closes, or occasionally whole OS reboots) randomly with no discernable pattern (i.e. crash on a page one moment, reload the browser and it is fine on the same page). Other than that it seems to work. To repeat an earlier grumble this is supposed to be a web tablet, I would expect the web browser to be the number one thing that works perfectly, not be the worst thing about it. We now have 20 of these out there, 2 failed screens after reboot a few days in (no doubt a good proportion of you have that experience judging by the wiki and mail lists). All suffer random browser issues (and Intranet browsing is all they are used for). The only reason we are using them is they are better than the windows equivalent PDAs. Hopefully minimo will have flash support soon and we can use that it seems better in many ways than opera 8.02 - perhaps nokia can help with the flash plugin for it? I was hopping when this release came out it might fix some of the usability issues such as telling you that their is no DHCP on the wireless and telling you when you get the KEY wrong - as opposed to the generic it doesn't work message. We have ordered some 800s to test but that will of course not help the 20 or so 770s we already have even if the 800 is better. Regards Simon At 14:05 26/01/2007, Ferenc Szekely wrote: Hello, The latest OS 2006 Edition for Nokia 770 tablets is available at: http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 The release notes: * Improved quality of WLAN connections * Wi-Fi certification included On behalf of the team, ferenc ps: flashing instructions are in the wiki: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux official Nokia support pages: http://europe.nokia.com/A4144786 ___ maemo-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-announce ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 26/01/2007 11:11 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] anyone else troubles with the camera?
Hi all. Just a quick question - does anyone else have problems with the camera? When - starting in the 03:00 position - I turn it around the image flips when the camera is in the 12:00 position, but flips back in the 11:00 position and stays that way, even when moving the camera fully to the back (which of course is unusable). I strongly suspect that this is a hardware problem, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'd hate to have to send the device back... :-) Thanks, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Built-in Media Player is also a UPnP streamer?
2007/1/30, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]: agreed - MediaStreamer is far better -- but without playlist support / control it's kind of pain to return where you left off each time. There's also no way to just play a folder of files - manually loading each one is also a bit lame. That said, if you have the right formats, it's quite cool to be streaming your content to your palm from the network. Don't know on 800 (I'm just waiting it for delivery) but on 770 to play all files in a folder you could just open the folder in filemanager, select all files and choose open from the menu. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Feature Suggestion
On 1/29/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there is no standard for how developers design home screen applets. I'd like to see there be a mandatory resize function so you could make sure that things could be smaller or larger as needed. Two examples are the GPE-Calendar and Canola applets which I'd make smaller. Although it shouldn't be mandatory as some applets will break visually if they are resized (e.g. the clock). Maemo 3 includes a resize API, but other applets haven't yet been updated to use it. In the mean time, it's possible to *force* GPE Calendar (and others as well) to be resizable: http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2007/01/29/resizing_gpe_calendar_on_os_2007 HTH, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] problem with maemomm
hello, i have a problem with the installation of libhildon-libsmm-dev libhildon-fmmm-dev I follow the tutorial: http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs/tutorial/html/ch03.html [sbox-ARMEL: ~] fakeroot apt-get update Get:1 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/free Packages [10.6kB] Get:2 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/free Release [114B] Get:3 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/non-free Packages [20B] Get:4 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/non-free Release [118B] Get:5 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/free Packages [87.1kB] Get:6 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/free Release [114B] Get:7 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/non-free Packages [6812B] Get:8 http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/non-free Release [118B] Fetched 105kB in 1m22s (1274B/s) Reading Package Lists... Done [sbox-ARMEL: ~] fakeroot apt-get install libhildon-libsmm-dev libhildon-fmmm-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package libhildon-libsmm-dev Can you help me please, thank you ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] cursed bluetooth / phone prefs!
Thanks for the advice... a few more shutdown / restarts and I am back. Hoping this gets fixes in r3 On 1/30/07, Marcel Holtmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathan, Every so often I find that my bluetooth pref is borked. Right now I am not able to actually activate it, or save my device name. If I get past that part, I can't pair with my phone. If I try from the phone app, I can't get past the initial screen New does nothing. Anyone else see this before? Reflashing / Restoring is an obvious option here, but man - you still lose your apps and have to rebuild. try rebooting it some times. Another alternative is to switch RD mode and get yourself a root shell and call hciconfig hci0 up. I am pretty sure that this is same Bluetooth startup problems, I saw with my device. I fixed it (at least I hope so) in the upstream code. Regards Marcel -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] anyone else troubles with the camera?
You need to replace your device, according to this url: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4351 On 1/30/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question - does anyone else have problems with the camera? When - starting in the 03:00 position - I turn it around the image flips when the camera is in the 12:00 position, but flips back in the 11:00 position and stays that way, even when moving the camera fully to the back (which of course is unusable). I strongly suspect that this is a hardware problem, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'd hate to have to send the device back... :-) -- Kemal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] BluOnyx and D.A.V.E.
Perhaps you already know about Agere's BluOnyx... well now Seagate has something coming as well -- D.A.V.E http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2007/01/ageres-bluonyx-box-of-wonder.html http://www.podtech.net/scobleshow/technology/1333/seagate-introduces-dave Either seems like a great addition to the tablet mobile experience! -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
Simon Moore wrote: Some feedback for the new version 3 IT2006 on the 770 The web browser (opera 8.02) and flash player (6.0.82.2) are still the same version and still crash (as in browser closes, or occasionally whole OS reboots) randomly with no discernable pattern (i.e. crash on a page one moment, reload the browser and it is fine on the same page). Other than that it seems to work. I agree with you on your points. For an internet tablet, the Nokia 770 software is very buggy. The browser randomly shuts down and sometimes reboots the Nokia, blinding me at night in the process :-) The video player is very poor. It seems to give random error messages on videos that it has played before and will play again in the future. It doesn't support that many video formats, and resolutions. Mplayer will play the same video that Nokia 770 will claim not a valid resolution. I don't even use the email client. Does anyone? I use a web front end to view my email. I see wasted time effort in developing software for the Nokia. The bright side is all the 3rd party software for the Nokia and that is its saving grace. If it wasn't 3rd party software, I would consider the Nokia 770 a disaster. my 3rd party software that I use: xterm ssh vnc mplayer Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its own. My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. I am also watching how Nokia still supports the 770 and this will impact my decision on whether I should upgrade to the 800 or the next version down the road. If they can't update the web browser on the 770, it tells me that next year, the 800 will be in the same boat. As of now, my Nokia 770 is supported quit well by 3rd party developers! Hurah! begin:vcard fn:Karl Bellve n:Bellve;Karl org:Biomedical Imaging Group;Department of Physiology adr:2 Biotech, Suite 114;;373 Plantation Street;Worcester;Massachusetts;01655;United States of America email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Assistant Professor tel;work:508-856-6514 tel;fax:508-856-6514 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] anyone else troubles with the camera?
Kemal Hadimli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You need to replace your device, according to this url: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4351 Ah thanks, seems I am not alone with my troubles... :-/ Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Usage
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:51:29PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Just so I can see how my usage patterns and view of the 770/n800 mesh with the community I'd be curious to know if I'm alone in the way I treat my noki. It is to me a palmtop not a PDA. I use it to increase my mobility and decrease my load, carrying it instead of a laptop. To me my 770 is a laptop replacement. I'm in charge of multiple data centers and it's a joy not having to lug a laptop out to dinner etc, in case I get an emergency call. However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone). Forgive me, I'm accustomed to thinking in use cases I guess. For me the #1 app is osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping. To me my 770 replaces a laptop, a car radio, portable mp3 player, and a library. Sometimes also a map. Most useful apps: 1. FBReader 2. Audio Player 3. osso-xterm + ssh 4. Opera 5. Password Safe 6. Notes 7. Maemo Mapper What I miss the most is a useful contacts app. Marius Gedminas -- Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] metalayer-crawler
Hi, ext william maddler wrote: first of all I have to say that I am *very* impressed by the N800, great device! By the way, I just found metalayer-crawler0 is eating up a lot of CPU, I have 4 processes, and at least one is eating at least 50% of my CPU, all the time. How did you trigger that (what did you do before that)? The only thing I can think of, is placing a 1GB MMC in external slot. Did it eventually stop using the CPU (without rebooting) i.e. is this a temporary problem? No, I waited about an hour, and the process was still there. Ok, then it's definitely a bug, not just a performance issue. If you reboot, can you get it again to consume that much CPU i.e. is the problem (easily) re-producable? It starts consuming CPU as soon as it starts, and keeps going. But only if your MMC is in when you reboot? Does dmesg tell anything? What happens if you remove MMC? Does the device complain that your MMC is in use? If it does, what is the output of following: for pid in $(pidof metalayer-crawler); do ls -l /proc/$pid/fd; done (Does it list any files from the MMC?) Could you file a bug to Maemo bugzilla about this (with the above info) and send link to the bug here? Sure, I was only trying if that was my fault or a real bug. Please attach also result of this (contents of MMC triggering the bug): ls -lR /media/mmc1/ to the bug report. AFAIK the crawler digs out extra information from some file types and it might be some specific file that is triggering the problem (e.g. because the file is broken in some specific way which triggers a bug in crawler), or the amount of files (e.g. of certain types). [...] 1) Has anyone else experienced same problem. 2) Could the absence of the daemon, be a problem for other applications (i.e. Media Player)? Not sure, but I think Mediaplayer gets the files in its library from the crawler database. I'll try then Thanks! - Eero PS. I tried triggering the bug by creating some partial mp3 files: cd /home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/; for i in $(seq 20); do out=/media/mmc1/test-$(($i+10)).mp3; dd bs=102400 count=$i if=Road_To_Ruin.mp3 of=$out; done; sync And re-inserting the MMC, but at least that didn't trigger the bug. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Usage
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 04:36:35PM +0100, Mathias Uebelacker wrote: dito missing a remote desktop client to manage windows based server There was an rdesktop port for OS2005. If the sources were not lost, I think it wouldn't be too hard to port it to newer OSes. A somewhat harder job would be to make the virtual keyboard work, and maybe add a toolbar like VNC Viewer has. Marius Gedminas -- MCSE == Marginal Computer Software Enthusiast signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] maemo-mapper 1.3.5 and Virtualearth URI
Did anyone managed to find a working URI for virtualearth? Thanks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: New OS 2006 firmware released
The browser randomly shuts down and sometimes reboots the Nokia, blinding me at night in the process :-) I use links, but would like to hear is minimo better than opera in base? How it compare in ram and stability? Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] anyone else troubles with the camera?
On 1/30/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. Just a quick question - does anyone else have problems with the camera? When - starting in the 03:00 position - I turn it around the image flips when the camera is in the 12:00 position, but flips back in the 11:00 position and stays that way, even when moving the camera fully to the back (which of course is unusable). I strongly suspect that this is a hardware problem, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has experienced this problem. Dammit! I *knew* something was wrong with the camera flipping :( I just hadn't taken the time to turn it slowly and figure out that it flips the image /twice/ ... Anyone got a nice'n'simple Nokia RMA guide to hand? (Or a Nokian on this list who can confirm that this can be fixed in software, perhaps?) Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews-Levine|[EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds vaguely obscene, and if there's one thing I cannot *stand*, it's vagueness. -- Dean Grennell ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its own. My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. I agree wholeheartedly with these points ! I would extend them further to ask why the 770 OS cannot be as open as a standard debian distribution. That is, comprised of a standard kernel that gets the device up and running, with proprietary drivers available as binary .debs. All the various applications distributed and installable as seperate .debs. This way unwanted applications can be removed, for example, the ridiculous email client etc. Kernels should be upgradable with a simple apt-get, the package management mess should be cleaned up and fixed. The advantage of opensource is in its flexibility and customisation. Nokia have negated this by imposing a very rigid structure around the 770. That's fine in itself, but don't pitch the device as opensource and be surprised when people get annoyed with the lack of control they have over it. Luckily for me, the one application I use very regularly, the opensource FBreader, is highly stable. Otherwise I'd get very annoyed with the device. Gavin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 as e-book reader
Would anyone have any thoughts about how to improve PDF handling? I would prefer to avoid DjVu, if at all possible. If there was a way to optimize PDF Reader, I think we have a wonderful e-book platform here. Have you tested Evince ? Although, I don't know if it's available for the n800 come to think of it. Gav ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 as e-book reader
On 1/30/07, Gavin O' Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone have any thoughts about how to improve PDF handling? I would prefer to avoid DjVu, if at all possible. If there was a way to optimize PDF Reader, I think we have a wonderful e-book platform here. Have you tested Evince ? Although, I don't know if it's available for the n800 come to think of it. I've been waiting for it on the N800 as I've heard very good things but it does not seem to have been released just yet... -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Usage
I'm using rdesktop for IT2006, works perfect, from maemo App Catalog. You just need to enter user and password, and enble the accessibility keyboard in windows. I thought it was useless before! On 1/30/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 04:36:35PM +0100, Mathias Uebelacker wrote: dito missing a remote desktop client to manage windows based server There was an rdesktop port for OS2005. If the sources were not lost, I think it wouldn't be too hard to port it to newer OSes. A somewhat harder job would be to make the virtual keyboard work, and maybe add a toolbar like VNC Viewer has. Marius Gedminas -- MCSE == Marginal Computer Software Enthusiast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFv2gikVdEXeem148RArKCAJ4/WPfYiy/7fA2utuHdeOVHEe4N3gCeLGAC pSlnbwfVDu9m0XatzKG1C/A= =CZTc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 09:10:19 Gavin O' Gorman wrote: On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its own. My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. I agree wholeheartedly with these points ! I would extend them further to ask why the 770 OS cannot be as open as a standard debian distribution. That is, comprised of a standard kernel that gets the device up and running, with proprietary drivers available as binary .debs. All the various applications distributed and installable as seperate .debs. This way unwanted applications can be removed, for example, the ridiculous email client etc. Kernels should be upgradable with a simple apt-get, the package management mess should be cleaned up and fixed. Gavin I agree and IMHO a lot of the problem seems to come from the fact that the developers where and are largely highly capable phone developers. It's a different mind set as you have noted. Now the question comes how can we encourage Nokia to leverage the tools they have available via Debian. I'm reminded that I recently talked with a friend of mine (Windows developer moved to Linux) who spent a month creating a boot loader for a micro Linux. I've not the heart to show him all the ones that already exist. James The advantage of opensource is in its flexibility and customisation. Nokia have negated this by imposing a very rigid structure around the 770. That's fine in itself, but don't pitch the device as opensource and be surprised when people get annoyed with the lack of control they have over it. Luckily for me, the one application I use very regularly, the opensource FBreader, is highly stable. Otherwise I'd get very annoyed with the device. Gavin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Usage
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 11:39:14 James Sparenberg wrote: On Tuesday 30 January 2007 07:36:35 Mathias Uebelacker wrote: dito missing a remote desktop client to manage windows based server br Mathias Mathias checkout the garage, someone is busy porting Cytrix to the 770 and there is also VNC coming along. James URL might be nice sorry. http://bleb.org/software/770/ James 2007/1/30, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:51:29PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Just so I can see how my usage patterns and view of the 770/n800 mesh with the community I'd be curious to know if I'm alone in the way I treat my noki. It is to me a palmtop not a PDA. I use it to increase my mobility and decrease my load, carrying it instead of a laptop. To me my 770 is a laptop replacement. I'm in charge of multiple data centers and it's a joy not having to lug a laptop out to dinner etc, in case I get an emergency call. However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone). Forgive me, I'm accustomed to thinking in use cases I guess. For me the #1 app is osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping. To me my 770 replaces a laptop, a car radio, portable mp3 player, and a library. Sometimes also a map. Most useful apps: 1. FBReader 2. Audio Player 3. osso-xterm + ssh 4. Opera 5. Password Safe 6. Notes 7. Maemo Mapper What I miss the most is a useful contacts app. Marius Gedminas -- Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFv2ESkVdEXeem148RAu+/AJ0QZUs2eZZ06A3cc6wNP4/kWrGhgwCeJuhy XtUgsnQ6WYvsiXpKUZFNpPg= =kXWZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] HOWTO N800+TVersity+MediaStreamer?
Hi! I'm trying to stream some picts and ausio clips from my XP box to my N800 using TVersity and Media Streamer. TVersity is apparently running and sharing, but Media Streamer is not able to detect the media server (ie. the XP box). All settings are default settings on TVersity, except Media Playback Device which has been set to Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. The N800 is able to connect to the XP box through SSH so it can see it! Any clue? TIA. Laurent, in Nantes (France). PS: Is Media Streamer for N800 able to decode video streams now? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: RE: editor
Hi,
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:51:21 +0200, Karoliina.T.Salminen wrote:
Hi,
But I must say that the first thing that prevent to use the
device to
do programm is the lack of a good editor adatpted to it.
Slightly off-topic and maybe? a little bit flamebait, but I
have never found an editor adapted for programming that wasn't
a pain to use in UN*X.
You mean graphical editor or text mode editor?
I guess you dislike vi like I do, so here is a list of other editors:
Modern graphical UI:
- kate (KDE text editor, works fine on Gnome, this is my favourite, very
similar to UltraEdit editor on Windows)
After reading your post, I must try that as soon as possible :)
[...]
- emacs (the traditional editor for linux etc., some people love it,
some hate
it because of the commands being CTRL+X+CTRL+...+..., in my opinion
still a lot more
user friendly and intuitive than vi).
Well, even the author of vi admits that most of the weird stuff is in vi
because terminals back in the day were just too darn broken (losing/repeating
characters, 10bps slow, ...) ;-)
As for emacs, I guess with some major hacking on the configuration lisp code, I
could get it to drop the Ctrl-K stuck key thing. As I'm naturally lazy, I'd
like to avoid that ;-)
- then there is the vi and vim for those who have different modes in their
brain for typing and moving the cursor. You can play Kraftwerk-robot with
this one.
heh ;-)
- command line option to jump to line/column number on load
Well Kate don't have this most likely. However, when you load the text, you
can CTRL+G and type the line number where you want to go.
Well, if it only misses that, I'm not against just adding it myself :-)
I automated most of the build and it's nice when the build system will
automagically fire up an editor at the exact line of mistake (which I
inevitable make lots of :)).
- interface for filling extra columns like:
- line number
kate has this
- breakpoint (modifyable)
you should check out some IDEs if you need breakpoints
I think you missed the part interface to. All I ask it to support is giving
it another file with data for an extra column that I fill however I want (and
which is not saved into the original file).
I do see that the UNIX lots-of-small-tools philosophy is kinda outmoded and I
should just jump on the IDE bandwagon, creating/using an app that does
everything (and nothing of it well) :-
[...]
- misc user-defined flag
[...]
- line the other people viewing this file are currently on
nope
I put this line in just to show what a simple extra column file could be used
for ;-)
- and so on...
- folding of blocks
kate has this
Really? Nice :)
Installing it as we speak...
- virtual concatenation of files (I'd really prefer the
_filesystem_ to support that, but...)
??
Hmm. If you have lots of small files, it _could_ (ideally, I know, never going
to happen) concatenate them all into one large buffer, separated by a line
stating file name. Later when saving, it could split them again.
So you could do like kate source/ (note: directory(!) path) and it would show
a great concatenated view of all the files in the directory (in one window, one
view, one buffer - making reading to get an overview and searchreplace
straightforward):
+---+
| 1 a.c: ^|
| 2 #include stdio.h ||
| 3 #include a.h ||
| 4 ||
| 5 int a() ||
| 6 {||
| 7 }||
| 8 ||
| 9 a.h: ||
| 10 #ifndef _A_H ||
| 11 #define _A_H ||
| 12 int a(void); ||
| 13 #endif /* _A_H */||
| 14 ||
| 15 main.c: ||
| 16 #include a.h ||
| 17 ||
| 18 int main(int argc, char* argv[]) ||
| 19 {||
| 20 return a(); ||
| 21 }v|
+---+
Yeah ok, so it's kinda sick ;-)
- every time someone writes . and then pauses for 1 second,
call external tool (with all the text on stdin?) (Intellisense :))
???
Hehe, I am way too accustomed to think in tools, I fear. The editor would call
an external tool to implement intellisense with (which would do whatever magic
and return the result to the editor, which would just display it in a combo
box).
- every time I press the Newline key in order to create a new
line, repeat the leading whitespace from the line I came from
on the new line (and I mean, exactly, not expanding tabs, not
grouping spaces into tabs, not trying to backstab me, ...)
kate puts indent characters there, which means spaces
Aw: Re: [maemo-users] Usage
Good evening James, thanks i will do that. Mathias - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: maemo-users@maemo.org Gesendet: Di., 30. Jan. 2007 19:39:14 GMT Betreff: Re: [maemo-users] Usage On Tuesday 30 January 2007 07:36:35 Mathias Uebelacker wrote: dito missing a remote desktop client to manage windows based server br Mathias Mathias checkout the garage, someone is busy porting Cytrix to the 770 and there is also VNC coming along. James 2007/1/30, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:51:29PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Just so I can see how my usage patterns and view of the 770/n800 mesh with the community I'd be curious to know if I'm alone in the way I treat my noki. It is to me a palmtop not a PDA. I use it to increase my mobility and decrease my load, carrying it instead of a laptop. To me my 770 is a laptop replacement. I'm in charge of multiple data centers and it's a joy not having to lug a laptop out to dinner etc, in case I get an emergency call. However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone). Forgive me, I'm accustomed to thinking in use cases I guess. For me the #1 app is osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping. To me my 770 replaces a laptop, a car radio, portable mp3 player, and a library. Sometimes also a map. Most useful apps: 1. FBReader 2. Audio Player 3. osso-xterm + ssh 4. Opera 5. Password Safe 6. Notes 7. Maemo Mapper What I miss the most is a useful contacts app. Marius Gedminas -- Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFv2ESkVdEXeem148RAu+/AJ0QZUs2eZZ06A3cc6wNP4/kWrGhgwCeJuhy XtUgsnQ6WYvsiXpKUZFNpPg= =kXWZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] HOWTO N800+TVersity+MediaStreamer?
When I set up both EyeConnect and Twonky I did not have to specify or approve any connections from the N800... it just popped it. You may have to open a port on your router for internal networking to see everything easily. 9000 and 2170 are used You're right: thank you! I've removed firewall restrictions for TVersity mediaserver.exe program and it works well now! Or at least, the N800 detects the media server: I'm now trying to add things (ie. images, video, audio) to the to-be-streamed library... -- Laurent, Nantes - France Apple PowerBook 12 Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) Nokia Internet Tablet N800 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800: virtual memory
Sorry, my mistake. It's actually xD (and SmartMedia), not microSD. Larry On 1/29/07, Gopi Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 29, 2007, at 8:54 PM, Larry Battraw wrote: spares. The only cards I know of that don't are microSD (TransFlash), and SmartMedia. In those cases software or the chipset for the interface may need to take care of it. Are you certain about that? Can't you get cheap little microSD to SD adaptors? I thought the point of microSD and miniSD was that they used the same interface as SD, letting you add them without any real extra effort. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] N800 as e-book reader
Thanks for the help -- I have the repository installed but do not see that file. Tried from the command line and got: Nokia-N800-51:/media/mmc1/apps/evince_n800# apt-get install libglade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package libglade On 1/30/07, Eduardo Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathan, The problem is you don't have libglade installed and dpkg itself can't solve dependencies. Please, add the maemo repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://repository.maemo.org bora free non-free Or if you're using the application installer: Web address: http://repository.maemo.org Distribution: bora Components: free non-free And then, as root, run apt-get install libglade. Best Regards, Etrunko. On 1/30/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/07, Eduardo Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Explode the tarball somewhere and copy the debian files to the N800. Then with xterm and root run dpkg -i *.deb. I hope this helps. Just tried this and I have to first state I was just semi-blindly going for it... I installed ssh etc and connected to my N800... ran your suggested command but received a lovely string back and some errors. Regardless --- Evince is installed in my extras folder! However it won't get past the Evince Document Viewer - Loading message... Here's the output from my terminal: Nokia-N800-51:/media/mmc1/apps/evince_n800# dpkg -i *.deb Selecting previously deselected package evince. (Reading database ... 16395 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking evince (from evince_0.5.2-indt5_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre15. Unpacking libdjvulibre15 (from libdjvulibre15_3.5.16-1indt1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libpoppler1-glib. Unpacking libpoppler1-glib (from libpoppler1-glib_0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libpoppler1. Unpacking libpoppler1 (from libpoppler1_0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package poppler-utils. Unpacking poppler-utils (from poppler-utils_0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1_armel.deb) ... Preparing to replace shared-mime-info 0.15-5 (using shared-mime-info_0.17-0indt1_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement shared-mime-info ... Selecting previously deselected package unrar. Unpacking unrar (from unrar_3.5.4-0.1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package unzip. Unpacking unzip (from unzip_5.52-10_armel.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of evince: evince depends on libglade2-0 (= 1:2.3.6); however: Package libglade2-0 is not installed. dpkg: error processing evince (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up libdjvulibre15 (3.5.16-1indt1) ... Setting up libpoppler1 (0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1) ... Setting up poppler-utils (0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1) ... Setting up shared-mime-info (0.17-0indt1) ... *** * Updating MIME database in /usr/share/mime... * Warning: Unknown media type in type 'sketch/png' Wrote 492 strings at 20 - 28a8 Wrote aliases at 28a8 - 2a54 Wrote parents at 2a54 - 33f8 Wrote literal globs at 33f8 - 3454 Wrote suffix globs at 3454 - 6d7c Wrote full globs at 6d7c - 6da0 Wrote magic at 6da0 - ccac Wrote namespace list at ccac - ccbc *** Setting up unrar (3.5.4-0.1) ... Setting up unzip (5.52-10) ... Setting up libpoppler1-glib (0.5.3-0ubuntu6-indt1) ... Errors were encountered while processing: evince Nokia-N800-51:/media/mmc1/apps/evince_n800# -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp -- Eduardo de Barros Lima INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: editor
Hi, On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:44:00 -0600, Levi Bard wrote: Slightly off-topic and maybe? a little bit flamebait, but I have never found an editor adapted for programming that wasn't a pain to use in UN*X. I'd like to know one... (certainly of all the editors there are for UN*X, there should be one that fits requirement below?) gtksourceview (the editor component used in gedit), and scintilla (the editor component used in scite and anjuta) support most of the things you listed; if these are all must-have features, you could probably create a lightweight editor based on one of these widgets without too much trouble. Thanks, I'll read up on them... cheers, Danny ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: RE: editor
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:08:05PM +, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: Well, even the author of vi admits that most of the weird stuff is in vi because terminals back in the day were just too darn broken (losing/repeating characters, 10bps slow, ...) ;-) Which, incidentally, is very handy when you have a laggy slow ssh connection. Marius Gedminas -- But perhaps ISO's central secretariat follows just the common industry practice pioneered by Microsoft: We will get it right in the third release. -- Markus Kuhn on ISO 10646 PDF CD-ROM edition signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] anyone else troubles with the camera?
I have the same problem (my unit is made in Finland). Also do developer devices come with warranty? Other question would be: can we fix this issue ourselfs? (I guess there is just a smal switch in the camera-stick?) Collin PS: my first camera app. is almost done :-) On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 16:06 +0200, Kemal Hadimli wrote: You need to replace your device, according to this url: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4351 On 1/30/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question - does anyone else have problems with the camera? When - starting in the 03:00 position - I turn it around the image flips when the camera is in the 12:00 position, but flips back in the 11:00 position and stays that way, even when moving the camera fully to the back (which of course is unusable). I strongly suspect that this is a hardware problem, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has experienced this problem. I'd hate to have to send the device back... :-) -- Collin R. Mulliner [EMAIL PROTECTED] BETAVERSiON Systems [www.betaversion.net] info/pgp: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help Microsoft fight software piracy: Give Linux to a friend today! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
