N810: available in UK web shop

2007-12-11 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Now, you can buy N810 @ shop.nokia.co.uk. Discount codes do not work yet.

Sergey
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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:24:15AM -0800, Mike Klein wrote:
 The apple wireless keyboard...while A+ in the looks department is more 
 like a B- when it comes to actual work. The keys are NOT full-sized and 
 don't have appropriate amount of travel. Larger keys would've made 
 footprint larger though.

It's exactly the same size as the keyboard on my T-series ThinkPad,
which is the same size as the alphanumeric section of a random USB
keyboard I have by my desk.  Vertically, no, the keys are not that deep,
but I always assumed full-size meant the size and relative positions
of the keys rather than their depth.

 I can tough type  120wpm and the Apple keyboard brings me down to like 
 30wpm...it isn't easy to type on when on your lap as it's so narrow. The 
 HappyHacking keyboard is better example of small keyboard (although 
 wired) with full-size keys and travel.

Right, the Apple keyboard is too small for comfortable typing while
holding it on your lap.

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Re: N810: available in UK web shop

2007-12-11 Thread A J Thew
Expansys have been selling it for a while but appear to have run out.

www.expansys.co.uk

A Thew

On 11/12/2007, Sergey Udaltsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now, you can buy N810 @ shop.nokia.co.uk. Discount codes do not work yet.

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Re: DVD to tablet

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Dec 10, 2007 11:45 PM, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:27:02PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote:

  htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html

 I had to comment out the line that starts

 #die mplayer doesn't support lavc encoder\n unless

That's peculiar. But it still transcoded video properly?

Could you send me the output of `mencoder -ovc help' and `mencoder -oac help'?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread Ognen Duzlevski
Levi Bard wrote:
 Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
 a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
 keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
 that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
 No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
 to access
 https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
 

 If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
 lowercase version.

   
Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
Ognen
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Re: maemo.org login problem

2007-12-11 Thread digger vermont

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:52 -0500, Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
 Levi Bard wrote:
  Anyone else experiencing login problems to the maemo.org site? I created
  a garage username on Dec 8th and still cannot login to maemo.org. It
  keeps telling me that the username or password is invalid with a note
  that if I created a garage account, it should be active in 15 min or so.
  No link on the page to anywhere to complain about the issue. I am trying
  to access
  https://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_4-0_porting_guide.html
  
 
  If your login has any uppercase characters, try logging in with its
  lowercase version.
 

 Nope, the username has only lowercase characters.
 Ognen

You are not alone.  I tried creating a second account just to make sure
and it's the same problem.

Another reply I got regarding it said it may be due to a server
relocation.

As far as the link you want for the porting guide, try changing https:
to http: I believe it will work.


digger

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Re: Keyboard for N800

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Flynn
Jonathan D. Proulx wrote:
 My BlueTooth  icon is always there unless I'm in off line mode adn
 does auto connect to any trusted device in range (my keyboard or GPS).

Hmm. Mine disappears when you click Switch Off Bluetooth.
I just downloaded the Start BT applet, maybe this will help.

///Peter
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Jonathan Greene
You don't have to use OSX Mail.app... I only open it on rare occasion
to archive from Gmail.  I can do mailto with the google notifier (menu
bar).

I'd like to kill / not use the built in mail app as well.  I thought I
recall a post from Quim here that said the mail app will be
replaceable in the same way that the microb browser was released
within OS2007.



On Dec 11, 2007 10:11 PM, Steve Yelvington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program

 I would very much like to ditch the official email program in every
 possible way. Can it be uninstalled? I'm willing to edit files in order
 to do so.

 One of my biggest complaints against OSX is the inability to rid one's
 self of the truly awful standard Apple email program. Nokia/Maemo should
 not make the same mistake.



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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Steve Yelvington
  - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program

I would very much like to ditch the official email program in every 
possible way. Can it be uninstalled? I'm willing to edit files in order 
to do so.

One of my biggest complaints against OSX is the inability to rid one's 
self of the truly awful standard Apple email program. Nokia/Maemo should 
not make the same mistake.


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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Norman Ramsey
  If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in 
  the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)

I'm not ready for the bleeding edge of Chinook, but would love to try
modest using OS2007 (bora).  I've been meaning to compile it for the
last week or two but have had other distractions.  Now suddenly it is
no longer promised to work on OS2007!  O pain! 

Since the beta release, has anyone tried to compile modest for OS2007?


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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Austin Che

 I'd like to kill / not use the built in mail app as well.  I thought I
 recall a post from Quim here that said the mail app will be
 replaceable in the same way that the microb browser was released
 within OS2007.

Try:
apt-get remove osso-email-engine osso-email-ui osso-email-*l10n*
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Re: Noob Questions

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Steve Yelvington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 dnsmasq has all grown up since last time I looked at the manpage, but
 won't this do what you're seeking?

 *S, --local,
 --server=[/[domain]/[domain/]][ipaddr[#port][@source[#port]]]*
Specify IP address of upstream servers directly. Setting this flag
does not suppress reading of /etc/resolv.conf, use -R to do that. If
one or more optional domains are given, that server is used only for
those domains and they are queried only using the specified server.
This is intended for private nameservers: if you have a nameserver
on your network which deals with names of the form
xxx.internal.thekelleys.org.uk at 192.168.1.1 then giving the flag
*-S /internal.thekelleys.org.uk/192.168.1.1 * will send all queries
for internal machines to that nameserver, everything else will go to
the servers in /etc/resolv.conf.

That's not it (if I understood it correctly). What we are after is
domain search functionality, that is we if a DNS query fails the DNS
resolver would need to to expand the query with the domain. Here's a
simplified example where domain search contains 'example.com':

- DNS query server1.
- no answer
- DNS query server1.example.com1.
- server1.example.com1 is at 123.122.121.120

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Fw: Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Joshua Layne
apologies - I really thought I had replied all, this probably breaks threading 
for this message...

- Original message -
From: Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Tue Dec 11 2007 08:39:23 PM GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available


 - Original message -
  Dear Maemo-Users,
 
  If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in
  the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)
 
  [ Scroll down for the install file (but please read this mail
  first!). ]
 
  We've been working on Modest for a while now, with great
  contributions from Igalia (http://www.igalia.com/news/modest),
  Philip Van Hoof (Tinymail), Openismus and others. And while
  it's not finished or bugfree yet, you might want to give
  it a try. We'll be blogging on Planet Maemo with news and
  updates.
 
  Some highlights:
      - the basics: POP/IMAP/SMTP (normal/secure);
      - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE (push-email)
      - easy setup of new accounts
      - send and receive of rich text-emails
      - managing mail with your fingers
      - 100% open-source with a BSD-like license
     

 It works great in general, 'beta' maybe, but better than the included client.

 A few nits:
 1) respect the 'subscribed folders' aspect of IMAP -- I have a lot of folders,
 but they aren't all active so I don't clutter my clients. 2) have 'reply-all' 
 as
 one of the default bar icons in addition to the reply - I would rather not 
 have
 to use the menu when replying to this list (for example). 3) just replace the
 included client already!!! :)

 Question - does it tie into the system notifications in the same way as the
 included app?

 Thanks much (sent using modest mail from my N810
 josh

  Some important notes:
      - modest will *not* replace the official e-mail program
      - it does have the same name/icon in the menus, so don't
          get confused!
      - modest uses English, regardless of your settings
      - modest works great with Gmail; don't forget to use
          '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as your username, not just 'user'.
 
  You can find an install file here:
  http://modest.garage.maemo.org/repos/modest-chinook.install
 
  This is for OS2008 (Chinook), and will *not* work on OS2007.
  It's bèta release, not for production use, so use at your own
  risk!
 
  If you do, please let us know what you think of modest. Please
  refer  to our webpage to see the various communication
  channels that are available -- thanks.
 
  Best wishes,
  The Modest Team.
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Re: what exactly is the GPS management framework for N810?

2007-12-11 Thread Joshua Layne

- Original message -
 I am continuing to have problems with the gps functionality on my N810.
 Please note the use of functionality here - from everything I can tell,
 the gps hardware works fine - this looks to be a firmware/driver bug or a
 problem somewhere else in the management stack of the gps 'subsystem'

 The problem is this:
 When newly booted, the GPS works basically fine - seems to take a little
 long to get a fix, but workable.  If I then shut the GPS off (using the
 panel applet, or by closing the map application.  When I try to start the
 GPS back up, I get nothing.  A `cat /dev/pgps` gives absolutely nothing, so
 there is a problem somewhere in the stack, not with getting a fix - when
 the gps is activated and gpsd is running, /dev/pgps should ALWAYS be
 emitting some form of data.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

 `killall -HUP gpsdriver`
 and
 `killall -HUP gpsd`

 do not solve the problem.  A reboot does (although sometimes the reboot
 doesn't seem to entirely 'take' and has to be repeated)

 My understanding of the gps stack (from forums and `ps -aef|grep gps` is:
 ---
 SirfIII gps hardware

 gpsd 1.0-23 (osso branded) (/usr/sbin/gpsd -n -N -F /tmp/.gpsd_ctrl_sock
 /dev/pgp) -- I believe it is really /dev/pgps and is being truncated for
 some reason in ps

 gpsdriver (?proprietary? - no help available for runtime parametes) --
 (/usr/sbin/gpsdriver)

 [gpsd] -- ?what is this?  I have never seen anything like this with gpsd on
 other systems

 /usr/libexec/navicore-gpsd-helper (bundled 3rd party binary app that kick
 starts the gps unit) OR the control panel applet.
 ---

 How can I trace what is going when the gps subsystem fails?  Do I actually
 have a bad unit?  I'm past the return from where I bought it so this would
 be a warranty issue, but I really think it is a bug somewhere in the
 software stack, not a problem in the hardware.

 I would appreciate any pointers on troubleshooting this - when the GPS
 works, it is great, but it is _extremely_ frustrating to have these kind of
 issues on a $450 device.

disabling the gps (using the checkbox in the applet control) and re-enqabling 
it seems to kick it back to working when it fails.

I still think something is wrong either at the firmware or driver level and 
would be interested in helping troubleshoot it further, but I need some help on 
this.  I'll submit a bugreport tomorrow, as I think I finally have enough info 
to make it useful.


 Also, if there is (or can be made) any documentation available for how to
 programmatically interface to the gps, that would be very helpful.  I did
 not buy this unit for the built in mapping program and have no intention of
 using it - I want to be able to control the gps (including power on and
 power off) from the OS (and not using GUI applets or binary-only 3rd party
 apps).

I spoke prematurely here.  I apologize.  I just found today the information 
here:
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/4-x/

and specifically, this:
http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/gpsmgr/index.html

which is exactly what I was looking for.
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Re: OS2008: beta version of Modest e-mail client available

2007-12-11 Thread Kalle Valo
ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

I really hate our mail servers and their From line mangling...

 If you're using OS2008 (Chinook), you might be interested in 
 the Modest email program (http://modest.garage.maemo.org)

Excellent, I will certainly try it.

   - IMAP folders support, and IMAP-IDLE (push-email)

IMAP-IDLE is very nice. What kind of traffic pattern would you expect
with the IDLE mode when there is no new email? For example, is there
any polling and if so, what's the interval?

I'm just thinking about the WLAN power consumption here.

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Re: what exactly is the GPS management framework for N810?

2007-12-11 Thread Jukka Rissanen
On Dec 12, 2007 12:20 AM, Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original message -
  How can I trace what is going when the gps subsystem fails? Do I actually
  have a bad unit? I'm past the return from where I bought it so this would
  be a warranty issue, but I really think it is a bug somewhere in the
  software stack, not a problem in the hardware.

There are bug fixes to GPS subsystem in OS2008 final release that is
coming soon, probably the bugs you are seeing are already fixed there.


 I spoke prematurely here.  I apologize.  I just found today the information 
 here:
 http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/4-x/

 and specifically, this:
 http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/gpsmgr/index.html

 which is exactly what I was looking for.

You might also want to look http://gps-saver.garage.maemo.org/
sources, it shows how to use the gpsbt and gpsmgr APIs.


Jukka
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