Re: Contact imports
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 22:05 +0100, Mustali Dalal wrote: Hello, On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, l...@soeiro.com.br wrote: This will be difficult for me because I don't have any Windows computer to play with (I use Debian and Kubuntu on all my personal and work computers). So you own a Windows phone but not a Windows desktop OS ;) Heh - give the guy a break - he's gotten the first linux device that you can rely on as a day-to-day phone and wants to use it with the 'native' OS - not an unreasonable desire :) (OK, I'm especially sympathetic since I have the same prob) Personally I'd give him +1 for Debian, +1 for KDE/Qt and +1 for N900 - some karma already... Hey Luis - are you on irc? freenode #maemo David/lbt ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Contact imports
Hi, l...@soeiro.com.br wrote: Another question: what kind of issues do you expect when mass exporting /importing contacts? Lost things? Duplicates? I had issues with detecting eliminating duplicates. I had more issues with performance when I had over 3000 email contacts imported. Performance on the phone, which filters on contacts with phone numbers, is better - I only have about a thousand of them. Cheerts, Dave. -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dne...@maemo.org Jabber: bo...@jabber.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t suppor t 850/1900 UMTS...
Timo Pelkonen wrote: Wait for something to happend to the situation. Aka hope for the best from n900's successor or frequency changes to 3g network. There is nothing more to do. This is unfortunate but everybody in the world can't be pleased because there are so many standards etc. Do you mean that people in the USA cannot use a N900 and will have to wait for a successor??? I think the marketing guy who allowed that must have been drunk... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Do you mean that people in the USA cannot use a N900 and will have to wait for a successor??? I think the marketing guy who allowed that must have been drunk... N900 works in the USA I presume because the device is sold there. I have no interest keeping track of frequency messes at wireless data transfer for developing countries of 3g. So no use asking me about your situation. Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t suppor t 850/1900 UMTS...
Timo Pelkonen wrote: N900 works in the USA I presume because the device is sold there. Maybe for a particular carrier, but the official frequencies in the USA are those that are not supported by the N900. So, useless device. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Brainstorm for feature requests (was Re: stop media player when ...)
Hi, ext D M German wrote: Hi everybody, I am not sure if this is the place to make this request... See http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Brainstorm -- Quim Gil ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UMTS...
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 11:18:38 Alejandro López wrote: Timo Pelkonen wrote: N900 works in the USA I presume because the device is sold there. Maybe for a particular carrier, but the official frequencies in the USA are those that are not supported by the N900. So, useless device. Let's not get carried away. As I understood the situation, the N900 works on all providers in the USA, the question being the tech level (=speed) supported on a particular provider. Yes, we'd certainly all like to see 3.5G as our connection icon, but let's not equate 'not optimum use case scenario' with 'useless'. Regards, Attila ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t suppor t 850/1900 UMTS...
Attila Csipa wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009 11:18:38 Alejandro López wrote: Let's not get carried away. As I understood the situation, the N900 works on all providers in the USA, the question being the tech level (=speed) supported on a particular provider. Yes, we'd certainly all like to see 3.5G as our connection icon, but let's not equate 'not optimum use case scenario' with 'useless'. There you got a point. However, if you buy a (quite expensive) 3G device and when you try to use it you found out that it will not work on 3G, wouldn't you be disappointed? And when I say you find out, I actually mean millions of people in North and South America. Isn't this ridiculous? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
that's why people must know what they are buying *before* really buying the product. if no 3g is dealbreaker, then it is. Ossipena 2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Attila Csipa wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009 11:18:38 Alejandro López wrote: Let's not get carried away. As I understood the situation, the N900 works on all providers in the USA, the question being the tech level (=speed) supported on a particular provider. Yes, we'd certainly all like to see 3.5G as our connection icon, but let's not equate 'not optimum use case scenario' with 'useless'. There you got a point. However, if you buy a (quite expensive) 3G device and when you try to use it you found out that it will not work on 3G, wouldn't you be disappointed? And when I say you find out, I actually mean millions of people in North and South America. Isn't this ridiculous? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t suppor t 850/1900 UMTS...
Timo Pelkonen wrote: that's why people must know what they are buying *before* really buying the product. if no 3g is dealbreaker, then it is. That's how this discussion started. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
ok, answer to first question: yes it was. end of discussion. Ossipena 2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Timo Pelkonen wrote: that's why people must know what they are buying *before* really buying the product. if no 3g is dealbreaker, then it is. That's how this discussion started. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: stop media player when the headphones are pulled
die 08/12/09, ad 23h59, D M German d...@uvic.ca dixit : The default N900 Media Player does not stop music when the headphones are pulled. This would be a nice feature to add (as other phones/media players work, such as those by apple). At least to make it optional. There is a package for N810 which does that. I don't know if it is compatible. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: stop media player when the headphones are pulled
On Wednesday 09 December 2009 02:45:58 am Andre Klapper wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 08.12.2009, 14:59 -0800 schrieb D M German: The default N900 Media Player does not stop music when the headphones are pulled. This would be a nice feature to add (as other phones/media players work, such as those by apple). At least to make it optional. See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5797 . andre Thank you. I've added my comments to the bug. tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N900 $510
N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. You mean like the N95 through N97 selling poorly in the US? Agreed. But at least the N8x0 showed that they could go down in price over time. E -- Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org http://hovland.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. You mean like the N95 through N97 selling poorly in the US? Agreed. But at least the N8x0 showed that they could go down in price over time. E -- Erik Hovland e...@hovland.org http://hovland.org/ But not enough, and certainly not quickly enough. The N8x0s only came down to a palatable price well after production had stopped and they were already getting scarce. That's not the way to sell lots of units. Mark Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/o/ogden_nash.html ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
new Fennec build for maemo?
nowhere in this CNet article or the mozilla project page does it mention when it will release or whether the new build will also run on N8X0 devices but I'll check their mailing list archives... -Gary http://mobile.cnet.com/site?t=gEVl8Ob9F2sYuFb-0-DK5w q.v. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Fennec ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Mark wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Hey, Mark, you mistyped https://ssl.buy.com/ac/contact/contactlogin.aspx as maemo-users@maemo.org Easy mistake. Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. Would you please give me your opinion on the price of Ferrari's too. They're expensive and they break down a lot. I guess they've got no chance of commercial success. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. Amazing insight into economic theory there. But don't you think they'd sell even more at $50 each unlocked? David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: Mark wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Hey, Mark, you mistyped https://ssl.buy.com/ac/contact/contactlogin.aspx as maemo-users@maemo.org Easy mistake. Simply supplying the only info I've yet seen on the availability of the N900 in the USA. Do you know of a better/cheaper source? If so, let's have it! Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. Would you please give me your opinion on the price of Ferrari's too. They're expensive and they break down a lot. I guess they've got no chance of commercial success. That's called a straw man fallacy. I'm not going to bother to respond. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. Amazing insight into economic theory there. But don't you think they'd sell even more at $50 each unlocked? David Sarcasm noted, but I'm simply quoting iPhone territory. There are only two possibilities: either the N900 is intended to compete with the iPhone, which means it must come in at an equivalent price point; or it isn't intended to compete with the iPhone, in which case it must be cheaper than the iPhone. More expensive is simply not an option if they want it to be a success. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 15:24 -0700 schrieb Mark: There are only two possibilities: either the N900 is intended to compete with the iPhone, which means it must come in at an equivalent price point; or it isn't intended to compete with the iPhone, in which case it must be cheaper than the iPhone. Marketing lectures at the university taught me that the world is a bit complexer than it's in your thoughts. But I'm not going to bother to respond or elaborate either, pretty good idea. :-) andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Am 09.12.09 23:19, schrieb Mark: You can complain about reality all you want, but that's not going to change it. The reality is that NO ONE is paying $900 for an unlocked iPhone, and the unlocked price for an iPhone is far, far below what it will be for an N900 if when they make a deal with a carrier. Erm. Everybody is paying that price for an *UNLOCKED* iPhone. Subsidized ones seem cheaper, but probably aren't (depending on contract). So the iPhone *is* more expensive than the N900 *when* you buy an *UNLOCKED* one and don't want to be bound to a carrier. *IF* you want to buy a subsidized N900, well go complain to your carrier. Ralph ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ralph Angenendt ralph.angene...@gmail.com wrote: Am 09.12.09 23:19, schrieb Mark: You can complain about reality all you want, but that's not going to change it. The reality is that NO ONE is paying $900 for an unlocked iPhone, and the unlocked price for an iPhone is far, far below what it will be for an N900 if when they make a deal with a carrier. Erm. Everybody is paying that price for an *UNLOCKED* iPhone. Subsidized ones seem cheaper, but probably aren't (depending on contract). Baloney. They are either paying far less than that or are jailbreaking a locked one. No one smart enough to demand an unlocked phone is stupid enough to pay that much for one. So the iPhone *is* more expensive than the N900 *when* you buy an *UNLOCKED* one and don't want to be bound to a carrier. Patently untrue. *IF* you want to buy a subsidized N900, well go complain to your carrier. Ralph Yeah, it's always somebody else's fault, isn't it? Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote: The price of an unlocked iPhone 3GS is $900: How can nearly half that price for similar hardware be way too expensive?! What magic wand can you wave to reduce the price of materials and RD costs to make these devices palatably priced in the marketplace? (Obviously high price is the barrier which makes Apple so successful and Nokia less so, in the US at least. Oh, no - hang on...) Cheers, Andrew Apple's hardware is no less expensive to produce, and probably more so because of the compactness (specifically referring to the iPhone). And Apple is NOT all that successful with anything besides the iPhone. If they hadn't come out with the iPod when they did, and subsequently the iPhone, they wouldn't still be with us. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Contact imports
David Greaves wrote: What about Fumabol? Have anyone tried that? http://www.funambol.com/opensource/ You're not alone :) Although we linux users are seen as a key community and development resource, we're sadly rather unsupported when it comes to contacts. Yep. I'm open to anything (even if I have to setup my own OpenLdap...) David must have no friends 'cos he's a linux user Greaves Here I know exactly how you feel...The issue is that beyond a certain point it is very hard to go back to a proprietary environment. You get more and more addicted to customization, helping others out and even suggesting some changes. Anyway, it is a very good feeling to know that most apps that you might ever want are just an aptitude (or mouse click) away... I'm very excited by the N900 device just because of this: it is the first time there is fully operational, unlocked and free (as in install and change whatever you want) Linux phone. And it seems it is not a bit inferior to other smartphones, either. I still haven't put my hands on it, though. It is on the way. I'm just getting ahead of myself. I've played a little with the SDK. I've read some info. I'm also trying to prepare for a holly grail: be able to sync it with Linux! play with (I use Debian and Kubuntu on all my personal and work computers). So you own a Windows phone but not a Windows desktop OS ;) It is indeed funny when you look at that this way...When I've bought the WM5 phone I thought it was just a phone with some interesting features (touchscreen, possibility of installing a few things, etc) and that Windows wouldn't get in the way. I was somewhat mistaken. :-( Anyway, thanks for everybody's hints. Cheers, Luis ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Am 09.12.09 23:19, schrieb Mark: You can complain about reality all you want, but that's not going to change it. The reality is that NO ONE is paying $900 for an unlocked iPhone, and the unlocked price for an iPhone is far, far below what it will be for an N900 if when they make a deal with a carrier. Erm. Everybody is paying that price for an *UNLOCKED* iPhone. Subsidized ones seem cheaper, but probably aren't (depending on contract). So the iPhone *is* more expensive than the N900 *when* you buy an *UNLOCKED* one and don't want to be bound to a carrier. Cheapest I've seen an unlocked iPhone 3GS is €399. But here (Ireland) no-one who knows jack buys a locked phone when you can get them unlocked for a fiver at any independent phone store. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Mark wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 If that's true then it might put me back in the market. But it would have to do *everything* my N800 does, without error. The fact that it's a phone as well is merely slightly interesting. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 $510
Mark, re your point concerning the locked price point of $200 for a high end smartphone, I should point out that that price point has now been breached by Verizon Wireless in the U.S. with their current offer of the Motorola Droid (a quite worthy competitor to the iphone) for $199.00 with a 2 year contract. Here, fyi is the url to the www page for the offer: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirstaction=viewPhoneDetailselectedPhoneId=5069 I am confident that the Verizon Wireless+Motorola Droid offer will put a much bigger hurt on Iphone profit margins (on the iphone product, not the app store service) than the N900 ever will if (or should I say when?) the N900 makes it into the U.S. mobile smartphone market. It does not help Apple Iphone sales and future market share that ATT seems to be considering ways of extracting more revenue from high-bandwidth users of Iphones. That, by itself, could swing users toward Verizon Wireless+Droid and away from ATT+Iphone. I do believe that Nokia, with its current N900 pricing, is attempting to keep too much money in its own corporate pockets under current market conditions including competitive pressures from products like the IPhone and more recently, the Droid, combined with weakened worldwide demand due to the prolonged and very nasty recession. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Mark wrote: N900 $510 http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582 Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3.5G is network dependent and NOT quadband. Even at this very discounted price, it's still way too expensive for most people. If they get it below $200 locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices it's going to sell very poorly. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
