Re: N900 features
Mark Haury wrote: [...] Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux version and the Windows version, all with the same results. You mean on the N900? Or anywhere at all? I've been using it under Ubuntu, Windows, Red Hat, and Maemo OS-2008 without any problems. I wouldn't expect any version of any software to run unmodified on the N900 (or N800/880/770 for that matter). It would need to be compiled with the relevant toolchain. Or did you mean you compiled it yourself? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
New config files for navit
Hello, I found that navit crashes with the old config files from http://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools#Navit I just uploaded an update. You can also start from /usr/share/navit/navit.xml and create a config file which reflects your own preferences. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 features
Peter == Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie writes: Peter I've never quite understood why, given that only 10 years Peter ago, my main system was a 64Mb desktop running Red Hat 3 or Peter something, and WordPerfect for Linux (another monolithic Peter monster) executed quite usably, if slowly. I would have Peter thought that in the intervening decade, technology would Peter have advanced a little more than this. It has -- Microsoft Word has invented lots more kinds of bloat than they had 10 years ago, so a program that tries to read all possible Word documents has to be lots bigger. Software never gets faster. When they make the hardware faster, they make the software slower to compensate. -- Laura (mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org) (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 http://www.laymusic.org/ http://www.serpentpublications.org What a natural history of religion would show is that the human experience of the divine has deep roots in psychoactive plants and fungi. (Karl Marx may have gotten it backward when he called religion the opiate of the people.) Michael Pollan, _The Botany of Desire_ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: X Server Keyboard not working
Ok, just tried openoffice remote like you showed at that does work, so it appears to be a problem with kmail or maybe kde apps. I'll do a little more exploring if anyone knows how a kde app would be different from openoffice please give me a clue. thanks again tim On Sunday 13 December 2009 08:37:12 am Tim Ashman wrote: I just noticed today that when I ssh into my home linux box from my n900 and launch an app that the hardware keyboard does not register for the app. The mouse still does, so the menus work, etc but once I click into a field I get the I-Beam indicator that usually means I can type, but when I type nothing. Once I close the app I then can see that my keystrokes are on the command line of my remoted box. What am I doing wrong I'm using the same command I always used on my 800 and 810. ssh u...@computer -X then for example to launch kmail I type kmail Is there some keyboard mapping that needs to be done on the n900?? please help this is one of the main uses I use my nokia tablet for (yes tablet not phone) and if I can't do this anymore I feel like I may need to jump back to the n810 and begin looking for a new device that can do this still. thank you tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New N900 user - Few ideas...
lol, I understand that and know it's basically 1.0 (or 0.8 beta or something) for the maemo version. I guess my point is I've come to rely upon it in my handheld and while I can take some instability, I need it to get me where I'm going most of the time. I used the beta on Symbian and went through some growing pains, but it's working well now. I hope the Ovi Maps team can get the Maemo version working well soon. I love the location syncing and choosing different voices. K On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: Please keep in mind that you just can't take the symbian version and install it to maemo. If I remember correctly there was no ovi maps for maemo 6 months ago. And N95 had maps 1.x, N95 was released 2007... Ossipena 2009/12/11 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com I'm sad Ovi maps is so lacking on the N900 because it works great on Symbian. That's kind of a dealbreaker for me as far as the N900 being a usable, main device. hopefully they're working on it heavily, or hopefully we'll see a google maps client soon. actually, how well does Google maps work on the browser? does it know location? thanks, K On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 23:11 -0500, Craig Woodward wrote: There are bug trackers for garage projects, but there's none for the core (haldon?) and it's shipped apps that I could find. See bugs.maemo.org (and feel welcome to search for existing tickets first). Needing a network on to get Ovi to start up (especially after pre-loading maps) makes it almost useless. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 And while talking about Ovi, I'm disappointed in how lacking it is. It's actually Ovi Maps. Ovi has several meanings in the Nokia world... No turn by turn, no spoken instructions (despite me downloading maps and voice files), no ability to save points or use saved points as route-to addresses. Feel free to file/check for/vote for enhancement ideas in Brainstorm at http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/ . andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 features
Mark Haury wrote: Peter Flynn wrote: Mark Haury wrote: [...] Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux version and the Windows version, all with the same results. You mean on the N900? Or anywhere at all? I've been using it under Ubuntu, Windows, Red Hat, and Maemo OS-2008 without any problems. I wouldn't expect any version of any software to run unmodified on the N900 (or N800/880/770 for that matter). It would need to be compiled with the relevant toolchain. Or did you mean you compiled it yourself? ///Peter Anywhere at all. It doesn't work on my desktops (any of them), laptop or desktop. That's interesting, and rather weird. Maybe if your documents have little to no formatting it works, but the documents I need to open invariably have lots of formatting: fonts, indents, tables, columns, graphics, etc. IMO if the only thing that matters in a given document is the text, then a plaintext file is adequate and much more portable to _any_ device. Otherwise, complete feature support is mandatory. Regardless, the fact that Abiword defaults to its own proprietary format (or the fact that it even _has_ its own unique format) makes it problematic. The last thing the world needs is yet another noncompatible document format, and being forced to go through a conversion process every time you want to create or edit a document is a PITA. All of which is true, except that all wordprocessors have their own unique default format, and always have...a relic of the days when Marketing people though it was terribly, terribly clever to trap the user with an impenetrable and incompatible file format (sadly, some of them still think like this). But the documents I use are also heavily formatted; although none of them are authored in AbiWord, which I only use (on an Ubuntu 9.10 desktop) for its ability to convert (clumsily, but fairly accurately) to LaTeX and a few other formats. For anything requiring Word compatibility, I use OpenOffice, which is why I was interested to see someone got it working on the N800. I do use AbiWord on the N800 for the occasional (but rare) document I need to write while I'm travelling and save as .doc or .odt for someone else; and (again rarely, and usually only when away) to open a downloaded .doc or .docx email attachment. In essence, it's a slightly cronky but functional tool. For anything requiring serious work I use Emacs and LaTeX: I can't imagine the nightmare of trying to do typesetting in a wordprocessor. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 features
Sebas, you might want to have your client read the following recent review at the amazon.com www site: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1T7KKC62GZ5JZ/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1T7KKC62GZ5JZ and specifically the commentary there regarding the included email client and the difficulty of getting the touch screen to work without a stylus. As of now the device is scoring an average of 4 out of 5 among the reviewers so far. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * sebastian maemo wrote: Hi everybody: One of my clients has recently asked me about the possibility to get a portable computer like my N770... :-) I've talked him about the N900, and despite the price of the unlocked device, he has asked me to check whether its features would satisfy his needs... I know how N770 works... but I have almost no idea about N900... I have read the full specs at the Nokia website http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n900/specifications, though I'd like to know whether there's any application that enables a user to open a M$ Office file, (doc or xls type, for example). I think that the answer is no, though that wouldn't be a problem if the PDF reader works well enough... -- Salut, Sebas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
opensync and n900
Hello, I am wondering if anybody has any experience with syncing the n900 addressbook with a linux desktop (kdepim) with opensync. http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync contains only the information that The N900 (preproduction) provides SyncML over Bluetooth and USB but not IP. I tried r...@blackbox:~$ syncml-obex-client -b N900 BT address 25 --slow-sync text/x-vcard contacts --wbxml --identifier PC Suite Received an transport error: Link Error: 0x0 Received an transport error: Unable to get answer Received an transport error: Link Error: 0x0 r...@blackbox:~$ but no luck with libsyncml-utils 0.4.6 Many thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
getting gpodder to use panucci on n900
I've installed panucci from the extras-testing and it seems to work just fine for the most part. However I can't get gpodder to use it. I see that gpodder doesn't have all of the settings available through the gui so I edited the /home/user/.config/gpodder.conf file's player entry to be either player = panucci player = /usr/bin/panucci I can run panucci from the command line by just typing it in but gpodder doesn't load any player when I make these changes. Can anyone shed some light. thanks tim ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: X Server Keyboard not working
I can't be certain but my guess is that this is the the X input focus issue. Apparently, Nokia changed the window manager in maemo5 so that it doesn't set input focus on windows as they are exposed. So that apps need to call XSetInputFocus() if they want input focus. Apparently most window managers don't exhibit this behavior and many apps were written assuming that they did not need to call XSetInputFocus(). There is some debate as to what the spec requires. But in any case many apps, such as emacs, and apparently also kmail, don't work with the maemo5 window manager, even when run remotely. There have been many threads on this, among them see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31696page=2 http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re-mapping_the_n900_keyboard-001/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/55127 http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-develop...@maemo.org/msg22253.html http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net/13111286.html http://maemo.org/community/maemo-users/x_keyboard_input_focus_on_n900/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36952highlight=input+focus My feeling is that while this may have been technically allowed by the spec (I don't know, I haven't read the spec) it definitely is the case that many very long-standing programs are broken by this so it was not a good idea. It is important to adhere to informal accepted practises as well as formal standards. Nokia did this for reasonable engineering reasons. It saves power on mobile devices. And apparently they felt that the majority of users would use apps specifically designed and compiled for the device. But there is a large community of users who use this device as a Linux computer, running standard Linux/Unix apps either ported to run natively in maemo, run in a chroot, or run remotely over X. And it is not reasonable to modify and recompile the huge base of Linux/Unix code to be compatible with the N900. I hope Nokia patches this, at least to make it a user-configurable option. In the short term, I almost have working a workaround, a shell script that runs in the background, detecting when windows get exposed and calling XSetInputFocus() on them. It works but is currently power hungry and specific to emacs. I'm working on making it more power efficient and more general. I'll post it when I'm done. Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
email use cases on N900
When an email arrives and I click on the orange email notification it goes directly to the email but trash is greyed out and I can't delete the message after reading it. To delete the message I need to click back|user|inbox|message to get back to the message, this time with the trash not greyed out. This is tedious. Is there a faster way? I get tons of spam and need a quick easy way to delete such. What is the mountain landscape icon? Why is it greyed out when I get to the message by clcking user|inbox|message but not greyed out when I get to the message by clicking on the notification. But what does it do? Even when it is not greyed out, the wait icon swirled for a few seconds but nothing noticible happened. Also, I have all email forked to both my desktop and N900 (with procmail). I usually read on my desktop and only read on my N900 when away from my desktop. But if I don't clean out the inbox, email can accumulate. After a few days I can get several hundre emails. As I have read them all on my desktop, I want to quickly discard them on my N900. On Chinook, I could easily select all email and click delete. I see no such easy way on Maemo5. Is there an easy way that I am missing? The lack of such a capability would destroy my use case. Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
leftmost icon on X terminal in maemo5
What does the leftmost icon on the X terminal in maemo5 do? The one that is a leftward-upward arrow that toggles with and without a red crossout line? Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: X Server Keyboard not working
Wow, thank you and what a cluster. I sure hope nokia gives us the option. I can't imagine leaving something this wrong broken. Nokia fix this and fix it soon. tim On Sunday 13 December 2009 07:20:45 pm Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: I can't be certain but my guess is that this is the the X input focus issue. Apparently, Nokia changed the window manager in maemo5 so that it doesn't set input focus on windows as they are exposed. So that apps need to call XSetInputFocus() if they want input focus. Apparently most window managers don't exhibit this behavior and many apps were written assuming that they did not need to call XSetInputFocus(). There is some debate as to what the spec requires. But in any case many apps, such as emacs, and apparently also kmail, don't work with the maemo5 window manager, even when run remotely. There have been many threads on this, among them see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31696page=2 http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re-mapping_the_n900_keyboard-00 1/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/55127 http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-develop...@maemo.org/msg22253.html http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge .net/13111286.html http://maemo.org/community/maemo-users/x_keyboard_input_focus_on_n900/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36952highlight=input+focus My feeling is that while this may have been technically allowed by the spec (I don't know, I haven't read the spec) it definitely is the case that many very long-standing programs are broken by this so it was not a good idea. It is important to adhere to informal accepted practises as well as formal standards. Nokia did this for reasonable engineering reasons. It saves power on mobile devices. And apparently they felt that the majority of users would use apps specifically designed and compiled for the device. But there is a large community of users who use this device as a Linux computer, running standard Linux/Unix apps either ported to run natively in maemo, run in a chroot, or run remotely over X. And it is not reasonable to modify and recompile the huge base of Linux/Unix code to be compatible with the N900. I hope Nokia patches this, at least to make it a user-configurable option. In the short term, I almost have working a workaround, a shell script that runs in the background, detecting when windows get exposed and calling XSetInputFocus() on them. It works but is currently power hungry and specific to emacs. I'm working on making it more power efficient and more general. I'll post it when I'm done. Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
How to (re-)download DEB packages with APT
Hi everybody: I know it's a weird question... but I'm afraid that some repositories for my N770 might disappear sometime in the future... so I'd like to know if it's possible to download via APT all the DEB packages I have already installed on my device (I removed the downloaded packages to gain empty space...) -- Salut, Sebas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to (re-)download DEB packages with APT
To list everything you have installed: dpkg --get-selections package.list You'll need to clean that up a bit (just the package names and all one line) but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. To download all the packages: apt-get -d install package.list -d will just download the packages to /var/cache/apt/archives and won't actually install anything. If you want to store them for later I'd mount that directory to some sort of file server via NFS or samba before running apt-get and save yourself the hassle of moving them somewhere else after (or risk running out of space) On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:58 PM, sebastian maemo sebastian.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody: I know it's a weird question... but I'm afraid that some repositories for my N770 might disappear sometime in the future... so I'd like to know if it's possible to download via APT all the DEB packages I have already installed on my device (I removed the downloaded packages to gain empty space...) -- Salut, Sebas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Does anyone see this?
Can someone please confirm that they can see this email? There have been some issues with post seeing my own postings (even though in the subscriber page the appropriate option is checked off as Yes) and also anyone seeing my emails on any of the two lists. Thanks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Does anyone see this?
I see it :p /Chris Can someone please confirm that they can see this email? There have been some issues with post seeing my own postings (even though in the subscriber page the appropriate option is checked off as Yes) and also anyone seeing my emails on any of the two lists. Thanks ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
