Re: Recording calls
2010/1/19 Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: IMO *developer could* *wash his/hers hands* just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software. but I'm not lawyer so this is uneducated guess. reasoned from the fact that kitchen knives can be sold even after people are stabbed to death with few of those sold... You mean like every image viewer has a warning that viewing some images might be illegal in some places? Or like every text editor has a warning that you should make sure that what you write is legal where you are? -- Matan. No, read what I wrote. Point bolded. Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Deactivate buggy portrait mode on N900
2010/1/18 Andrea Borgia and...@borgia.bo.it - Original message - since last week, I can use my N900 in portrait mode after using the phone app in portrait mode and hanging up. However, it is Seems like you hit a bug in the transition from portrait to landscape: afaik it is not yet possible to use the application manager in portrait mode. Please file a bug, with as much detail as you can especially if you can reproduce it. A. It is an easter egg. only bugreport that is reasonable could be that easter egg can't be disabled. but one has to input ctr+shift+o when at browser to enable the easter egg aka portrait mode for the browser. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Recording calls
2010/1/16 Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com I know the legality of recording calls varies greatly in many countries. In the US where I live it varies from state to state not only if you may record calls, but if those recordings may be published or used for legal purposes in a court of law. In general in the US you need to be a known participant in the call, and in some states that's enough, in others you need to inform some or all parties that the call is being recorded. In any case, this is not new territory for phones in general or for Nokia. Several Nokia phones have had the ability to record conversations. My Nokia 6230i has the ability to record calls, but for legal notification reasons emits a muted beep/tone every 5 seconds while it's recording. The tone is at about 10% of the volume of the call and lasts 1/2 second, every 5 seconds. In any case, I doubt any country would have laws that would punish a developer for making an application for the phone. Rather most laws would target the person who installed and/or used the application in a way that did not conform with local laws. sebastian maemo sebastian.ma...@gmail.com wrote: = 2010/1/14 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com Recording conversations is a useful tool, but also illegal or highly regulated in many jurisdictions, so that might deter developers somewhat. I'm not a lawyer... but I think you're wrong (in general). Of course, laws depend very much on the country you live... but IMHO recording a conversation in YOUR own phone is perfectly legal and you don't need to warn anybody about it, because you are recording YOUR conversation... What is completely illegal is to record conversations of other people, or even making illegal use of your own conversations when other people is involved... That's MHO and I'm not a lawyer :-P -- Salut, Sebas IMO developer could was his/hers hands just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software. but I'm not lawyer so this is uneducated guess. reasoned from the fact that kitchen knives can be sold even after people are stabbed to death with few of those sold... Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: repository.maemo.org gone?
2010/1/18 David Hagood david.hag...@gmail.com I went to install Carman today, and it seemps repository.maemo.org is not resolving - I get an NXDOMAIN on it, from several sources, including going directly to the name servers for maemo.org. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users Problem with servers because of the server move. Just wait and try again for example in 2-4 hours. Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Developing for WebOS on the WEB -- can Nokia step up
2010/1/17 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com Watching Coding with Bryan on the Jupiterbroadcasting.com network I learn about the Ares project from the guys at Palm and about their WebOS system, he showed a developer platform on the web. http://ares.palm.com/Ares/about.html Everyone in the chat was delighted and wonder if Maemo could do something like for their widgets at least. Maybe it could be cool to have. I know Nokia is well invested in the Qt platform but doing a web driven development could be something that could result pretty awesome stuff. All you need is a browser and you are ready to code. -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! ___ Isn't there a similar thing for symbian? found this in 10 seconds, don't know for sure if it is the same http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technology_Topics/Web_Technologies/Web_Runtime/ Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How do I press Alt-F1 on N900
2010/1/15 Tim Ashman t...@ashmans.net I'm using rdesktop to access a remote windows machine. I need to be able to press Alt-F1 to get a menu to pop up. How can I do this on the N900? tim I guess only way is to bind 2 buttons from kb: alt and f1. or does on-screen keyboard work? its layout should be possible to change with apps found in extras-devel (if I remember correctly) Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Facebook app is just a commercial after update
So question, is there a facebook app or is it just the widget? Maybe I can go to uninstall and remove the add and then the real app will show up (althought I doubt it). Maybe I should google at maemo repo and learn what really is out there. I would love to have a facebook app that allow me to upload my camera pics. -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! You allready have app that allows uploading of pics if you have installed the facebook app (with installer or from HAM, doesn't matter) are you familiar how media sharing is done with N900? I suggest you look at user manual. Timo / Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Default lock code device
12345 ? mentioned in manual, page 13 ossipena / timo 2010/1/7 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com Hi I want to setup my lock code on the n900 but it seems it already comes with a default one which I dont seem to know which one is. There was no initial code setup when I start my N900. -- Kahlil Johnson Ya tengo GMAIL!! ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Slow writes from linux to N900 in USB Mass Storage Mode
5. tammikuuta 2010 13.29 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: Hi, On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 22:38 +0100, ext Paul Hartman wrote: Hi, I'm using linux kernel 2.6.32 on my PC and mount N900 in mass storage mode using vfat (async). If I write one file then sync/umount, write speed is about 17MB/sec, same as I get on Windows Vista. However, if I write more than one file and then sync/umount, speed is terrible, around 2MB/sec (and in kernel 2.6.31 that speed was about 450kb/sec using the old pdflush code). So it seems linux is maybe creating multiple write streams and N900 doesn't deal with that well at all. There has been some USB speed-ups since the sales release, but I'm not sure if they fix this multiple file copying problem. I think it's best to file a bug to maemo.org, so Maemo kernel guys get the word (I think too few of them read this mailing list). -Kimmo Size doesn't seem to matter, copying one 1gb file followed by sync is around 8 times faster than copying 2 500gb files followed by sync. In other words, as long as every single file copy is followed immediately by sync before moving on to the next file, speed is fine. If more than 1 file is copied before sync, it's bad. Does anyone else experience the same problem or have any ideas how to solve it? I'm no USB guru an every other USB device I have seems to work properly and at full speed. dmesg shows no messages (on PC) and it is running USB 2.0 etc. So far my only workaround is to copy/sync/copy/sync/copy/sync but that's annoying. However, the difference of taking 1 minute to write 1gb versus taking 20 minutes to write 1gb is also annoying. Thanks :) I suggest you try to change your settings in linux first http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=453521postcount=24 Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: possible bug in N900 Maemo 5 desktop ??
Mark, why are you in this mailing list anyway? I have seen only _very_ negative comments from you. Most of them inappropiate... Is there a way to ignore people within maemo mailing lists? Ossipena / Timo 2010/1/5 Mark wolfm...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com wrote: Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 17:34:53 schrieb Mark: Beautiful. :-/ The solution to a bug is to just remove the feature involved. As if no one will miss the feature... Many people don't understand why there is a second application menu level instead of just scrolling down in the first one. Me neither. Enjoy being probably the only person missing it. Because some people appreciate organization more than others. However, since it apparently isn't configurable, that makes the point moot. Maemo4 has a second level in the application menus and it works beautifully. I very much prefer two levels of menu over having to scroll for days to find the app I want. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: newbie question: out of space on n810
2010/1/4 ScottW sc...@sw41.com I am having issues with my n810: What gui application is good for figuring out where I am out of space, what I can delete, and have it delete it for me? unfortunately you already have that one installed: terminal. Either there are a hell lot of GUI programs out there for OS2008 that i've missed or you just have to learn how to use terminal... df gives you disk space used in different partitions... then just look at the Mounted on -part and you'll know where to search something for deletion. but I'd suggest you just remove couple programs and see if problem goes away... and if you haven't done it already, remove user manuals with file manager (Documents -). And in general everything you delete in file manager, will free up space from root partition. (note that removing files from memory card isn't good thing to do in your situation!) Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
2009/12/24 Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Hi All; I just got a new N900 - it rocks. However I cannot download any of the lcars theme's. On my N900, I browse to maemo.org then select Downloads and I select OS2008. In the Desktop Environment category I find the lcars-complete and click on it's download link. my device then automatically takes me to the app manager, then I see a 'preparing for installation message', then after that's done I see this message: Unable to download 'lcars-complete' Application package not found. I've tried downloading the file and browsing to it via the file manager and I get the same results. Same thing happens for all the start trek themes Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance Well, first thing could be that you don't try to install packages that belong to older OS to your device? OS2008 is an os that can be found in n8xx models, n900 has maemo5. Ossipena/ Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New N900 user - Few ideas...
Please keep in mind that you just can't take the symbian version and install it to maemo. If I remember correctly there was no ovi maps for maemo 6 months ago. And N95 had maps 1.x, N95 was released 2007... Ossipena 2009/12/11 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com I'm sad Ovi maps is so lacking on the N900 because it works great on Symbian. That's kind of a dealbreaker for me as far as the N900 being a usable, main device. hopefully they're working on it heavily, or hopefully we'll see a google maps client soon. actually, how well does Google maps work on the browser? does it know location? thanks, K On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 23:11 -0500, Craig Woodward wrote: There are bug trackers for garage projects, but there's none for the core (haldon?) and it's shipped apps that I could find. See bugs.maemo.org (and feel welcome to search for existing tickets first). Needing a network on to get Ovi to start up (especially after pre-loading maps) makes it almost useless. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337 And while talking about Ovi, I'm disappointed in how lacking it is. It's actually Ovi Maps. Ovi has several meanings in the Nokia world... No turn by turn, no spoken instructions (despite me downloading maps and voice files), no ability to save points or use saved points as route-to addresses. Feel free to file/check for/vote for enhancement ideas in Brainstorm at http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/ . andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 - Problems with builtin apps
3. Email Username/Password warning. - In setting up the n900 I was reading the manual or quick start guide and came across a note about how my username's and passwords WOULD not might but would be sent to nokia I don't get that sentence. I don't entirely remember where I saw this. I will look in my documentation tonight, but it seemed like for every email account you setup nokia was going to get your username and password, almost like they had setup a proxy within modest instead of direct access. you saw it in the news some time ago. it is a feature in s60 that sends your username and password to nokia automatically and it can't be prevented unless creating the mailbox a bit like keeping a voodoo ceremony. (data is sent unencrypted too if i remember correct) Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Do you mean that people in the USA cannot use a N900 and will have to wait for a successor??? I think the marketing guy who allowed that must have been drunk... N900 works in the USA I presume because the device is sold there. I have no interest keeping track of frequency messes at wireless data transfer for developing countries of 3g. So no use asking me about your situation. Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
that's why people must know what they are buying *before* really buying the product. if no 3g is dealbreaker, then it is. Ossipena 2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Attila Csipa wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009 11:18:38 Alejandro López wrote: Let's not get carried away. As I understood the situation, the N900 works on all providers in the USA, the question being the tech level (=speed) supported on a particular provider. Yes, we'd certainly all like to see 3.5G as our connection icon, but let's not equate 'not optimum use case scenario' with 'useless'. There you got a point. However, if you buy a (quite expensive) 3G device and when you try to use it you found out that it will not work on 3G, wouldn't you be disappointed? And when I say you find out, I actually mean millions of people in North and South America. Isn't this ridiculous? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
ok, answer to first question: yes it was. end of discussion. Ossipena 2009/12/9 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Timo Pelkonen wrote: that's why people must know what they are buying *before* really buying the product. if no 3g is dealbreaker, then it is. That's how this discussion started. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
N900 doesn't have variations, every device has similar frequencies. Ossipena There is nothing else to do except wait 2009/12/8 Alejandro López listas@googlemail.com Fernando, I think Argentina uses the same frequencies as the US, so I would be very surprised if those frequencies are not supported by the N900. Maybe the supported frequencies depend where you buy it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS.2FHSDPA.2FHSUPA_frequency_bands_deployment I don't know if this is the case for the N900 (I hope not), but with the N80 there was a funny problem. In Argentina the European version was sold as it supported the Spanish language, but it would not work on UMTS because it used the European bands. To have the N80 working on 3G you needed to buy it in the US, but in that case it would not support Spanish. Nice, ain't it? Good luck. Alejandro. Fernando Cassia wrote: Sheesh, I was ready to order the N900 but then I found it only supports WCDMA at 900-1800-2100. Down here in Argentina 3G uses 850 and 1900 Mhz. Was it too difficult for Nokia to include worldwide 3G compatibility? Oh well... FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can´t believe N900 doesn´t support 850/1900 UM TS...
2009/12/8 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: Wait for what? A version with updated radio?. I think that might happen sooner than the government auctioning the 2100 Mhz band for WCDMA/UMTS... FC Wait for something to happend to the situation. Aka hope for the best from n900's successor or frequency changes to 3g network. There is nothing more to do. This is unfortunate but everybody in the world can't be pleased because there are so many standards etc. Ossipena Well, at least RIM did something.. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/02/26/rim-releases-a-quad-band-3g-bold-in-japan/ the Japanese Bold that went on sale over the weekend is a quad-band 3G device containing the 2100, 1900, 850 and 800 MHz bands of UMTS/HSDPA FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Dream of the Daily Mail It is the Holy Grail And then the BBC Your life would be complete -Manic Street Preachers, Royal Correspondent Well, at least rim didn't have step 4/5 device where they stuffed quad band if N97 mini has it, maemo6 device could also have it. but just yesterday I argued with chinese people who couldn't understand why chinese input wasn't there (and at the same time no portrait mode, no mms, bugs, ...) and I am certain that people have no vision what n900 is or isn't. I myself work with devices that start from someones drawing table and with tight timetable we make single device that is proto when we test it and end user device when it is shipped. It requires hell lot of compromises. I'm just pissed off about this iwannahaveallandifidontgetitinthreesecondsiwillbeverypissedandwriteangryblognotesandtrollatforumsandcallcompanyxxxnames -attitude. I bet quad band were left out because there was no time to get it working at the first place and it probably will be added to successors..(atleast if there are good experiences from n97 minis implementation) Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth keyboards and N900
2009/12/2 Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie Timo Pelkonen wrote: Then let the markets decide it instead of your speculation, markets are always right unlike persons. And the Tooth Fairy will still visit you. Markets are easily swayed and perverted. People -- especially experts with good judgment -- are right much more often than markets. ///Peter But even when perverted, markets are still right. Can you buy something at a price that is opposite to market prices(without fraud)? Or does somebody force you to buy overpriced goods against your own will? Didn't you ever notice that people == markets? ps. I'd like to have some sources to your claim that experts are right much more than markets... So you mean that a group of people (experts with good judgement) doesn't make a single mistake in couple years? Lets stop here, this will go straight from maemo-users into economics in 2 seconds. Ossipena / Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bluetooth keyboards and N900
2009/11/30 Mark Haury wolfm...@gmail.com Qole wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Jeffrey Mark Siskind q...@purdue.edu mailto:q...@purdue.edu wrote: This could be a showstopper for me as it would break my central use case. And I would need to cancel my order and consider buying something else (like a Pandora, Netwalker, or M1/M2). I too would like to see full keyboard support in Maemo 5. But why the threats to buy a competing device? Are you hoping to scare someone into fixing this? It's merely a reminder that consumers need devices that work, and work the way _they_ want them to, not the way that some narrow-minded developer thinks they should work. Consumers are going to go elsewhere in droves if the major shortcomings of the N900 are not addressed. Of course, a few of those are hardware, so you've lost a bunch already... Mark ___ Then let the markets decide it instead of your speculation, markets are always right unlike persons. Ossipena/Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
bricked n900 under 24 hours
How can i get my n900 connected to PC when it freezes when 5 bubbles are shown in screen in bootup (animated stuff, one bubble is bigger and moves)? with n800 you needed to press one of the keys when booting up, but atleast shift or blue shift (no idea what the real name is) doesn't do the trick. machine sees the device for a second and thats it. any tips please? installed crash-reporter because of random reboots (i suspect MfE + regular google) and after that plus manual reboot, the device was bricked. -Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bricked n900 under 24 hours
Hi I got it working. Win 7 wants to install a driver of its own so it blocks very effectively functionality of flasher-3.5. No idea if there is a way to get around it. So Win 7 updates cant be done unless you get your device to pc-suite -mode unless somebody gets a way around (if). I downloaded the firmware 42 three times and third time got it working. Managed to flash without problems using pen drive ubuntu. but now the whole device isn't so much better from a solid brick. -Web browser doesnt accept text input to text boxes, reloads the page couple of times when trying and finally renders a page Päivitä(its finnish with broken umlauts,päivitä, means: update) plus a link to the page you tried to open -app manager can't install anything. tried to install foreca weather and log shows this: *dpkg:unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package 'fmtx-middleware':Structure need* -email app starts but shows blank screen and the circle that indicates loading have I done something wrong? is there something wrong in the 42 image? is there problems with my hardware? should I just file a bug per point? -Ossipena/Timo 2009/11/24 Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni li...@prometoys.net Hi, Am Dienstag, den 24.11.2009, 10:10 +0200 schrieb Timo Pelkonen: How can i get my n900 connected to PC when it freezes when 5 bubbles are shown in screen in bootup (animated stuff, one bubble is bigger and moves)? with n800 you needed to press one of the keys when booting up, but atleast shift or blue shift (no idea what the real name is) doesn't do the trick. machine sees the device for a second and thats it. if you want flash it you don't need to push a special key anymore. Just start flasher and then connect the n900 via usb to the computer. If you turn it on, flasher will gain control over the device. Good luck, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net peo...@world:/# apt-get --purge remove capitalism After unpacking world will be freed. You are about to do something potentially beneficial To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as We say!' ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bricked n900 under 24 hours
I reflashed with NSU just in case and now it seems that every problem has perished. Has there been any changes to 42.11 image recently? Or some transfer problems? It appears to be very mystical because the third time i downloaded the image it started to work at the first place and with that those problems appeared. But when reflashed again with Win7 + NSU, the device works as out of the box. -Ossipena/Timo 24. marraskuuta 2009 14.02 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 12:52 +0100, ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: Hi I got it working. Win 7 wants to install a driver of its own so it blocks very effectively functionality of flasher-3.5. No idea if there is a way to get around it. So Win 7 updates cant be done unless you get your device to pc-suite -mode unless somebody gets a way around (if). I downloaded the firmware 42 three times and third time got it working. Managed to flash without problems using pen drive ubuntu. but now the whole device isn't so much better from a solid brick. -Web browser doesnt accept text input to text boxes, reloads the page couple of times when trying and finally renders a page Päivitä(its finnish with broken umlauts,päivitä, means: update) plus a link to the page you tried to open -app manager can't install anything. tried to install foreca weather and log shows this: dpkg:unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package 'fmtx-middleware':Structure need -email app starts but shows blank screen and the circle that indicates loading have I done something wrong? is there something wrong in the 42 image? is there problems with my hardware? should I just file a bug per point? Could you give the output of cat /proc/partitions and mount? Maybe your eMMC image is too old... -Kimmo -Ossipena/Timo 2009/11/24 Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni li...@prometoys.net Hi, Am Dienstag, den 24.11.2009, 10:10 +0200 schrieb Timo Pelkonen: How can i get my n900 connected to PC when it freezes when 5 bubbles are shown in screen in bootup (animated stuff, one bubble is bigger and moves)? with n800 you needed to press one of the keys when booting up, but atleast shift or blue shift (no idea what the real name is) doesn't do the trick. machine sees the device for a second and thats it. if you want flash it you don't need to push a special key anymore. Just start flasher and then connect the n900 via usb to the computer. If you turn it on, flasher will gain control over the device. Good luck, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net peo...@world:/# apt-get --purge remove capitalism After unpacking world will be freed. You are about to do something potentially beneficial To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as We say!' ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: bricked n900 under 24 hours
24. marraskuuta 2009 14.34 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 13:22 +0100, ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: I reflashed with NSU just in case and now it seems that every problem has perished. Has there been any changes to 42.11 image recently? Or some transfer problems? It appears to be very mystical because the third time i downloaded the image it started to work at the first place and with that those problems appeared. But when reflashed again with Win7 + NSU, the device works as out of the box. If you used flasher in Ubuntu, you probably flashed only the rootfs and cellular modem (unless you flashed twice: first the rootfs and cellular and then the EMMC image). But with NSU it flashed the eMMC (internal memory card) also. -Kimmo Ok thanks for the info! I'll remember that next time (and hope that there wont be one ;) ) Ossipena/Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Still one problem with app manager
See attachment for app manager log. First and third failed to install, middle one installed without problems. Seems to be complaining something about opt. Sorry if this has already been covered somewhere else. Ossipena/Timohildon-application-manager 2.2.35-3 - Installing dtg 1.0.153 required disk space: 4957304 Selecting previously deselected package dtg. (Reading database ... 20402 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking dtg (from .../dtg_1.0.153_armel.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/dtg_1.0.153_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/opt', which is also in package base-files dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unknown media type in type 'sketch/png' Errors were encountered while processing: /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/dtg_1.0.153_armel.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) - Installing conboy 1:0.5.8 required disk space: 97090 Selecting previously deselected package libjson-glib-1.0-0. (Reading database ... 20402 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libjson-glib-1.0-0 (from .../libjson-glib-1.0-0_0.6.2-5_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package conboy. Unpacking conboy (from .../conboy_1%3a0.5.8_armel.deb) ... Setting up libjson-glib-1.0-0 (0.6.2-5) ... Setting up conboy (1:0.5.8) ... gtk-update-icon-cache: Cache file created successfully. - Installing attitude 0.0.8 required disk space: 5974180 Selecting previously deselected package python2.5-minimal. (Reading database ... 20438 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking python2.5-minimal (from .../python2.5-minimal_2.5.4-1maemo2_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python2.5. Unpacking python2.5 (from .../python2.5_2.5.4-1maemo2_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-minimal. Unpacking python-minimal (from .../python-minimal_2.5.2-3maemo3_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python. Unpacking python (from .../python_2.5.2-3maemo3_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-central. Unpacking python-central (from .../python-central_0.6.11.1maemo1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-support. Unpacking python-support (from .../python-support_1.0.2maemo1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-cairo. Unpacking python-cairo (from .../python-cairo_1.4.12-1.2maemo1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-gobject. Unpacking python-gobject (from .../python-gobject_2.14.2-1maemo5_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-numeric. Unpacking python-numeric (from .../python-numeric_24.2-9maemo4_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-gtk2. Unpacking python-gtk2 (from .../python-gtk2_2.12.1-6maemo9_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-imaging. Unpacking python-imaging (from .../python-imaging_1.1.6-3maemo2_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-notify. Unpacking python-notify (from .../python-notify_0.1.1-2maemo1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-osso. Unpacking python-osso (from .../python-osso_0.4-0maemo1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-hildon. Unpacking python-hildon (from .../python-hildon_0.9.0-1maemo13_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package attitude. Unpacking attitude (from .../attitude_0.0.8_armel.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/attitude_0.0.8_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/opt', which is also in package base-files Errors were encountered while processing: /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/attitude_0.0.8_armel.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Fwd: Still one problem with app manager
sorry forgot to add maemo users as recipient. see my answer at the bottom -- Edelleenlähetetty viesti -- Lähettäjä: Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com Päiväys: 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.17 Aihe: Re: Still one problem with app manager Vastaanottaja: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.14 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 16:05 +0100, ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: ... now straight out of the box enabled repos only and forecaweather cant be installed. dpgk:unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package 'fmtx-middleware ': Structure need Am I doing something wrong? I am following exactly the flasher instructions... I think you have flashed properly and the device is working (or did you see something weird just after flashing?). The packages that you install are just buggy. -Kimmo The whole flashing seemed to go well, problems start when trying to install applications from standard repository. The same error is now given atleast to 5 different applications when trying to install. Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Still one problem with app manager
Thanks for the info! If this is the solution to my problems, it would be great! Ossipena/Timo 2009/11/24 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com Hey, On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: sorry forgot to add maemo users as recipient. see my answer at the bottom -- Edelleenlähetetty viesti -- Lähettäjä: Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com Päiväys: 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.17 Aihe: Re: Still one problem with app manager Vastaanottaja: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.14 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 16:05 +0100, ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: ... now straight out of the box enabled repos only and forecaweather cant be installed. dpgk:unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package 'fmtx-middleware ': Structure need Am I doing something wrong? I am following exactly the flasher instructions... I think you have flashed properly and the device is working (or did you see something weird just after flashing?). The packages that you install are just buggy. -Kimmo The whole flashing seemed to go well, problems start when trying to install applications from standard repository. The same error is now given atleast to 5 different applications when trying to install. Please note that the repositories are having some problems atm. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
VS: Re: Still one problem with app manager
- Alkuperäinen viesti - Hey, On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: sorry forgot to add maemo users as recipient. see my answer at the bottom -- Edelleenlähetetty viesti -- Lähettäjä: Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com Päiväys: 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.17 Aihe: Re: Still one problem with app manager Vastaanottaja: Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com 24. marraskuuta 2009 17.14 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.comkirjoitti: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 16:05 +0100, ext Timo Pelkonen wrote: ... now straight out of the box enabled repos only and forecaweather cant be installed. dpgk:unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package 'fmtx-middleware ': Structure need Am I doing something wrong? I am following exactly the flasher instructions... I think you have flashed properly and the device is working (or did you see something weird just after flashing?). The packages that you install are just buggy. -Kimmo The whole flashing seemed to go well, problems start when trying to install applications from standard repository. The same error is now given atleast to 5 different applications when trying to install. Please note that the repositories are having some problems atm. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users It wasn't the repositories. After one more time downloading images and reflashing, standard repos now work fine. But still havent got rid from random reboots. Who might be the right person to contact for further clearance? I'll install crash reporter as soon as the repos stop giving 401 -errors. Ossipena/Timo___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
VS: Re: N900 Delayed
Aihe: Re: N900 Delayed Lähettäjä: Nicolau Werneck nwern...@gmail.com Päivämäärä: 25.10.2009 22:23 On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 08:49:58AM -0600, Mark wrote: The overwhelming majority of the Linux desktop apps I've tried are far from finished, (aside from games and other fluff). Long before an app is finished, the developers split their efforts and you end up with a dozen competing apps, none of which will ever be finished. They're all too busy arguing about design details/philosophy to actually complete critical functionality. That goes for Linux as an OS as well. Can you list some specific examples of Linux programs that compete with each other when they should merge into less projects? Here are some programs I use. mozilla, emacs, mutt, inkscape, pdflatex, awesome (window manager). They do have competitors, like konqueror, vim, pine and xfig, but I think it's fair to say all these classic programs deserve their places. And I know these are not the avarage user's applications... So what kind of applications are you refering to? Email and RSS readers? Spreadsheet, text editor, twitter client, media player?... xmms should merge with amarok? I did start my own small and crappy twitter client the other day, and I've been using it in my N800. Would you suggest me to drop my project and instead devote myself to enhance another existing competitor? Am I just thinking about what is best for me instead of what is best for the community? ++nicolau The point is to find balance between opposites. No competition is very bad and wrong kind of competition is very bad. But competition is really needed to change things to better. Lame iPhone - argument: web surfing is what it is. If you dont like it there is nothing to do (because no competition cant exist because of app store rules). N900 has webkit AND mozilla... There is no one perfect example user who represents 5M mobile phone users, there are only groups that prefer different things at random. Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
VS: N900 versus N810
- Alkuperäinen viesti - I see that Nokia advertises the N900 as a mobile computer, not primarily as a phone. So I was wondering how the N900 compares to N810 in terms of processing speed, wireless connection speed, and so forth, in actual use. Rick B. - N810 shouldnt be mentioned in same sentence... Even the laggiest n900 preview videos outperform n8x0 without difficulty. Ossipena ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
